#girl idek why laenor cares that much about joffrey fucking lonmouth
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navree · 7 months ago
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from what i can tell, it's not just his attitude towards rhaenyra that makes him unpopular, it's the fact that he murdered joffrey lonmouth at a wedding, which to a lot of people implies homophobia.
Most of the dumb memes I've seen have been about that stupid boat scene or calling him an incel because he called Rhaenyra a cunt (admittedly, not great, don't do that, men quit calling women slurs just because you don't like them challenge) so I do think that's where most of the vitriol is centered, unfortunately. Which is, again, dumb, when we have Daemon "never met a little girl he didn't want to fuck" Targaryen and his brother, than man we literally watched rape his child bride on screen.
The Joffrey Lonmouth thing is hard for me to care about for a wide variety of reasons, in all honesty. For one, I'm not taking any allegations of homophobia seriously, because I actually watched that scene. Joffrey made snide comments about Criston getting to be Rhaenyra's kept boy, Criston, who we've already seen be upset by Rhaenyra's behavior and torn up about his own to the point where he was willing to face the really nasty punishment involved when he confessed to Alicent, snapped and attacked him, and since he was in plate armor and not a doublet he had the advantage and killed him. Like, there's homophobia involved in constantly killing gay characters, especially ones we've seen in sexually fulfilling relationships, that traces back a long time, but take that up with George, he wrote that Joffrey Lonmouth was gonna die, along with having almost no queer characters in his books and killing the ones that he does. Character A killing Character B when Character B happens to be queer is not, in fact, the same thing as gay bashing or whatever the Criston antis think. For two, I can't bring myself to feel anything about Joffrey, we had two scenes with him: the one where he dies and the one with Laenor. And considering this is the first episode we had with Laenor, I can't even feel anything for him about Joffrey dying, the way I might feel for Rhaenyra after Luke's boring ass got munched. I feel nothing, I don't know this dude, I don't know his boyfriend, I feel like Rachel McAdams in Game Night. For three, I can't divorce Joffrey's death in universe from the fact that's it's a dumb piece of writing out of universe. Why is this dude antagonizing someone he's never met for no reason? Why does Criston have Hulk-level rage issues? Why wasn't anyone able to pull Criston off Joffrey? Why wasn't there any sort of aftermath or repercussion in literally any way to a Kingsguard murdering a dude in full public view? Why couldn't it have just been at a tourney like in the book where everything would make sense because it was an accidental death in an area with a presumed level of risk? It's dumb, I don't have time to worry about how mean it was that a figment of someone's imagination murked another figment of that same imagination when the writing surrounding it is bad and taking up most of my time.
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