#gideon POV be like
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while im posting unfinished art, i drew this pathetic harrow for a comic i didn't end up liking so you can have it out of context
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gideon really is my little meow meow. she's so brave and uncool and fucking miserable
#struggling to put into words how I feel about. how sad she's been her whole life#we see Kiriona yeah. but it's not about her death or about Harrow. she was always like that and just hid it to herself in her pov#gideon#elle tlt posting
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Drew a Harrowhark to go with my drawing of Gideon.
Without skull paint as well
#harrowhark nonagesimus#gideon the ninth#locked tomb art#tlt#the locked tomb#harrow the ninth#htn fanart#is this what ribcages look like?#goth girls make this rockin world go round#pov youre trying to seduce a corpse
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it's interesting to see people getting into tlt because i do think you're either gonna get through gtn and go on to htn or you're not. and then once you get to htn you're either going to stop reading out of confusion or you're gonna trust that you eventually won't be confused.
but also it's funny to see people be like "tlt doesn't take itself seriously," after only having read gtn.
like, no. that's just gideon's narrative voice. gideon doesn't take things seriously and it's a coping mechanism for her. however, that only really becomes apparent after reading htn and ntn because the narration and tone of the story changes so much between each book.
muir, for better or worse, is just really committed to writing from the pov we're currently in.
#that's why gtn is the way that it is tbh#you're reading from the pov of a sheltered girl who's main pastime was essentially reading playboy and exercising lmao#and i think it's only really effective because we do change pov throughout the series#i honestly don't think i'd like tlt if it was only written from gideon's pov#for me gideon's pov is only interesting in retrospect once i understood more about the world and about her character#what got me through gtn was everything going on around gideon rather than gideon herself#the locked tomb#vixen.txt
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I do think there's something interesting in how Kiriona and Ianthe seem to be trying to be the new Mercymorn and Augustine in NTN--being someone's parent/child/caretaker/lover isn't easy, but it seems to be what John expects from his saints
yeaaahh!!! john definitely seems to expect his saints to manage his emotions to an extent, to be there for him and comfort him and tell him he's a good person — even when those saints are replaced by a girl in her early twenties and his literal daughter who was killed to be a battery thanks to his system. it certainly seems like kiriona is, in a way, trying to be the new A.L. just like mercymorn was — that's what she tells ianthe she's doing when they open the tomb (although getting to harrow was possibly a larger motivation). and though ianthe seems less interested in john's approval in a vacuum and more interested in the power that caring for him can get her, that ultimately lands her in the exact same position, and in ntn it seems like she's taken quite a lot onto her shoulders.
#gideon#ianthe#asks#anon#chewing on this.#i feel for them both honestly like pov you a 20 year old have to take care of god#gender analysis#tlt
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i love the locked tomb series so much but truly the reading experience for each book involves so much time not understanding what the fuck is going on
#laughs awkwardly#gideon the ninth#tamsyn muir is like okay the pov character is going to be whoever knows the absolute least in this situation#and it slaps. but my brain is so tired
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i'm just saying that if there was a girl i was soso in love with and i had the chance to be a part of her soul and never be apart from her ever again and be useful to her for millennia and then she was like actually no i don't want that and kicked me out i would be really upset too
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I do believe everyone in tlt is a little (extremely) fucked in the head and therefore I’m not trying to delineate the tower princes as the pure-of-heart-one and the evil-villain-one BUT as someone who gets freaked out by the idea of losing control over her own body there is hmm something sitting in my brain about Ianthe thinking it’s funny to make Harrow’s hair grow faster vs Gideon closing her eyes and actively working not to touch Harrow’s skin because she knows Harrow wouldn’t like it while she tries to keep her thumbs on
#me#the locked tomb#harrow the ninth#htn spoilers#something something gideon still knows harrow best something something#something gideon and harrow learn to hate each other for 17 years#but really they just learn to respect each other something#like I don’t think many of us are actually making a case out here that ianthe ISNT villainous and generally a force for Bad#but something about that specific action#and the specific sections of htn we get from her POV#have always kind of unsettled me more than I would expect them to#and I think this has something to do with why
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Okay here is a poll for for fic writers
#i really feel like gideon's is easier not necessarily because it's easier to relate to just because#it's easier to make it entertaining#worst case scenario there's too many jokes and you have to cut some but she has a sweet sincerity underneath that balances it out#harrow's pov has to be portentous without just leaning full force into misery#well you can but i try not to because#harrow the ninth is an experience but it's not necessarily the experience i'm shooting for in most of my fics#i have read fics that leaned way in and i admire that style but i do also find it hard to keep reading for extended periods of time#it all depends and like the thing is muir's harrow IS funny and her circumstances are funny she gets the balance just right#it's hard to do!!
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living up to the villain sidestep name (thinking of a Third puppet)
#gideon shut the hell up challenge#on one hand. never in a million years would we let fawn have THREE puppets that we just alternate between#esp when eden and yaz are both canon and cannot be erased or replaced#HOWEVER. on the other hand. fawn w mirror puppet....?#fawn who is so caught up on The Good Old Days? finding a mirror of back then? having a visual reminder of when they were Good?#hiding in plain sight. despite everything it's still you (positive). despite everything it's still you (negative).#bonus evil points for 'hey ric why are u dating the girl version of fawn? that's so fucked up' and#'hey daniel and chen why don't u like this non-evil (aka not corrupted) version of fawn as much? that's so fucked up'#pov u are fawn becker abt 2 blame the corpse ur piloting for choosing a life of evil except that it's your face and choices and fate#oh right fate motive. there's smth there abt the fate of being doomed to be puppeted (regardless of if it's Them or just a lookalike) but#anyway we're not gonna do it but if we Were going to do it we'd specifically give them a name meaning hunter/huntress. just for the comedy#@ me think more abt how fawn considers themselves corrupted bc of how they're bad now tyyy
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TLT is actually the most masterful example of character POV manipulating audience perception bc I still to this day remain in romantic love with Gideon Nav, I thought she was sooooo funny and that it was so attractive how she is incapable of talking without saying the most vile and meme-ridden and vulgar and careless shit in the world and I loved how she thought abt things and described things and I loved getting quips from her POV in HtN and then nothing materially changed in her dialogue in NtN (yes she is different but TBH she would've said everything she said in GtN I believe) but instead she said it to NONA.
And now I do not like her anymore. I think she is mean.
#JOKE I still love her but it was a small bit of whiplash to suddenly see her as an arsehole just bc Nona didn't like her.#Nona who likes everyone! Even Pash!#It made me VERY aware that we have only seen Gideon from her own POV and that as an outsider#she is actually quite annoying.#Still would die for her tho <3#rocknroll it away baybee#tlt spoilers#ntn spoilers#htn spoilers#Liv has thoughts
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currently reading harrow the ninth and just? what???
#i'm like 300 pages in right#and i read gideon a few months back#so at first it was a case of maybe i#severely misremembered#and tjen i was just accepting it#on the surface at least#like idk if different memories or what#but then i *think* ianthe also referenced ortus so??#(although i mayve ompletely made that up)#but like. it was something#but also cam? who definitely died in the last but also in this alternate one harrow remembers#abd like palamedes is but isn't dead which is cool but at least makes sense#(in that its wild but seems to follow)#but??#you bever could have guessed that he had seen me??#what does that mean???#i mean. i thougjt the switcjing pov from present to flashbacks was a choice#but an actual Choice??#anyways.#the locked tomb
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HtN leaving me with some sick ass confusion. about Gideon and Harrow.
NtN: So nevermind all that here's the birthday girl.
#Muir i love you but I need POV spin off of everyone because i'm not sure i got the story#like there's so much going on with Phyrra and Gideon 1's death.#killing Wake but Also Wake was a zombie and revenant for some reasons and some ability while hating the whole necromancy and zombie thing#I need to know why she chose this#Mercy death the whole fact that she decided that the whole universe should die#AL potentially making sure that John never dies#or John natures is to be immortal#i don't know#i don't understand the fuck is the river#they don't explain well#tlt
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Started witch king, which makes the 6th Martha wells book this year, so it’s kind of cool to see what she likes to use as a writer
#like the out of body connections from the pov character to others#looking through their eyes or telepathic dialogues. this kind of impermanence and irreverence for their physical body#irreverence is too strong but like. the body isn’t the focus it’s almost separate#reading this and Gideon at the same time is kind of a trip because they are both fantasies that just refuse to explain any thing to u lol#ramblings
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i love thinking about how harrows expressions look to non-gideons. like.. gideon sees every godfucking duplicitously slutty minute detail about her expression like a billboard and everyone else sees a painted and pinched off inverted triangle
#the perspective switch suits gtn so well#its funny its hilarious#gideon narrating harrow turning every shade under the sky dramatically and annoyingly -> pov switch -> harrows face to everyone else 😐#but with more eyebrows#>:|#BUT THE THING IS SHES NOT EVEN GOOD AT HIDING HER EMOTIONS SHAKES U BYT HE SHOULDERS SHAKES YOU BY THE SHOULDERS SH#SHE CLINKS WHEN SHE WALKS SHE LOOKS AT PAL LIKE SHES WORKED OUT HOW TO KILL HIM#SHES NOT GOOD AT IIIIIIT#FLIPS TABLE AMD SCREAMS#vi the fifth#SCREAMS!!!!!!!!!!#she tries so hard shes just a babygirl shes just a little one#she comes in a little bubble from the 25cent machines#tlt#harrowhark nonagesimus
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i would not have been able to read these books if i hadn't known from the start that gideon would come back eventually, like if finished the first book and thought my girl was actually dead forever i would have been too heartbroken to continue, idk how the fans who've been there since the beginning managed it
#personal#please all i want from atn is gideon pov again#i know that most of htn is technically her pov but it's not the same#i was crying at the end of htn like there she is!! that's my baby!!!
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