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[lovemillie]

Your favorite ship??

[moonstarsxxxxx]

So sweet💖💖💖

[moonstarsxxxxx]

İt's very nice 💖💖

“mileven only made out” and “mileven dont know how to communicate” is borderline ableist, and you guys need to be more careful with your words

You’re allowed to have your own opinions on characters and ships, however it reflects on a lot of real life issues cause characters often represents those issues that real people struggle with every day.

The st characters don’t get to interact a lot with every. single. other character because there simply isn’t time in the show. Look at Max and Will.. does them only having had one conversation in the show mean that we can assume that thats the only one they’ve ever had? not really cause that wouldn’t make sense…

Things happen between seasons and scenes. We cant know what happened for sure but we can try and piece a picture together based on what the characters do, how they act towards each other, and what the vibe is.

Mike and Els way of communicating is unique because of Els limited vocabulary..

But its easy for them to communicate and understand each other.

They have their own special way of communicating and being with each other..

Considering the places El came from when he first met her, he was being perfectly gentle and considerate and managed to find a way to make her comfortable and they found their way to communicate and talk.

Their way of talking and being with each other is actually really beautiful and pure, and it doesn’t deserve to be diminished because of Els small vocabulary.

And about “mileven only made out”…

i’m gonna drop some pictures here that i think really indicates that their relationship was a lot deeper than just making out…

And El told Mike about her mom and the time she looked for her, something suuuper super personal…

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This parallel that i believe instagram editor wolfhard.lol discovered suggests that Mike had every reason to be as concerned as he was. El had been manipulated by Brenner for years to think the things she was doing weren’t dangerous, to think she was safe when she wasn’t at all. Mike knows that El feels super responsible for all the upside down related stuff that happens, and is willing to push herself far beyond what she can handle because he’s witnessed how self sacrificial she can get first hand…

He knows her well enough to know when she was in danger when no one else did, even herself,,

No matter how, they’ve clearly further bonded and definitely have a deeper understanding of each other and they clearly got to know each other better during their relationship…

They had two kissing scenes, and you’re allowed to assume they made out a lot,

But Hopper was shown to first be petty and overprotective when he was upset over them.

Later it was shown that the reason he felt that way was because Mike and El spent so much time together and Hop felt like El was slipping away from him and that it was ok but it just hurt.

It wasn’t because mileven only made out. Hoppers words about them was clearly shown to be AN EXAGGERATION 

My point is, there’s no real reason to assume that milevens relationship ONLY consisted of making out…

So when you guys act like its canon and that theres no other way to interpretate it..

When you guys say they only made out, you’re saying that you think they didn’t talk, didn’t communicate and didn’t bond further in the span of a 6 MONTH RELATIONSHIP….

WHY??

QUICKLY??

The only thing that differentiates milevens communication from the other st couples is Els limited vocabulary…

You might not realize it, but sometimes you guys imply that Els limited vocabulary diminishes her relationships and makes her unable to connect with people and its just borderline ableist.

You can make all the assumptions you want about what happened between seasons and what the characters are like,

But only mileven gets this treatment. Only EL gets this treatment. Only her relationships and connections to people are diminished like this.

And also, acting like Els limited vocabulary and trauma ONLY invalidates or disproves her relationship with Mike doesn’t make it any less ok and it doesn’t excuse it just because its a het ship.

Els limited vocabulary is not proof against mileven, its not proof for byler and you should know that acting like it is is super wrong. You guys just need to stop. 

You’re allowed to dislike mileven. You’re allowed to hate mileven. But you have to question your reasonings and you have to question the things you’re saying because sometimes it can be hurtful.

Ableism towards El in this fandom is a very big issue not just here, but in every part of the fandom and i think it needs to be talked about more.

I know you don’t mean to, but you’re hurting people. So before you get defensive please just consider what i’m saying.

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