#fuck whatever bruce has going on i need to examine tim and dicks pre-n52 relationship under a fucking microscope

[redrobemerle]

(nothing serious under the cut, just petty frustration)

every time i pull open a fic that takes place post-brucequest and im having a grand old time and then the fic has tim and dick be on bad terms or has tim mention something about "dick threatening to send him to arkham" and i have to just. scream into a fucking pillow. bc a) DICK LITERALLY NEVER DID THAT HE JUST SUGGESTED THAT TIM GET THERAPY BECAUSE TIM LOST SO MANY PEOPLE IN SO SHORT A PERIOD OF TIME. LIKE YEAH HE DIDNT BELIEVE THAT BRUCE WAS ALIVE BUT ALSO TIM DIDNT PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE HE KEPT IT ALL TO HIMSELF UNTIL HE HAD DEFINITIVE PROOF BECAUSE. AND HE EVEN ADMITTED THIS TO HIMSELF. TIM ONLY "KNEW" BRUCE WAS LOST IN TIME AT FIRST BECAUSE HE HAD TO BELIEVE IT WAS TRUE FOR HIS OWN SAKE. and b) tell me you fundamentally do not understand their relationship without telling me you fundamentally do not understand their relationship.

canonically. during brucequest (the first half of red robin) tim ignored, deleted, and avoided everyone who tried to contact him before he was Officially Back In Gotham after the fight with ra's. to the point where lucius fox had to physically send his daughter to try and bring tim back. EXCEPT.

when dick called. he picked up. (and then he had to come back to gotham briefly to help deal with the blackest night zombie problem before going back to what he was doing)

but like. he was on rough terms with dick. he was ACTIVELY LEADING the LEAGUE OF ASSASSINS. and yet tim is still immediately ride and die for dick. tim canonically has contingencies for literally everyone he interacts with EXCEPT FOR DICK. HE SAYS HE NEVER WILL HAVE ONE FOR DICK. HE LOVES AND TRUSTS HIS BROTHER IMPLICITLY!!

like. yeah tim probably wont be as open with dick about his mental health. and all that. but like. while he was hurt by dicks actions, i dont think he was ever actually angry at dick. not really

tim telling him "youre my brother, youll always be there to catch me" is as much an i forgive you as it is a you can never know how ready i was to die there

just the same as dick asking him "how did you know id be there" is as much a im sorry i wasnt there for you these past few months as it was a please tell me you knew id show up, somehow

sometimes! common fanon is a lie!! and also directly contradicts canon!! and frankly sometimes!!! common fanon!! is WORSE!! anyway at this point i think anyone who writes anything even relating vaguely to the events of red robin (2009) needs to read red robin (2009). its only like 26 issues and you can find the whole run on readcomicsonline i promise you its not that big of a hardship. if you want content warnings hmu im planning on making a spreadsheet for it anyway