#frisk calls dess 'dess'

[acaciapines]

hey acacia pleaaaase tell me more about dess and chara in the dess raises kris au

OH I'D LOVE TOO

this got. long as hell so its under a cut. can you tell ive thought about this so hard. literally more people need to consider this relationship okay IT HAS IT ALL...

so! youre dess. you've just had what asriel is calling 'a mental break' but what is to you descending down into the bunker which is REAL and WRONG and NEEDS TO BE DESTROYED, and its done something to you, and your best friend doesnt understand, and nobody understands, and this thing is going to kill your sister and it is going to use asriel's little sibling to do so. and then one day, weeks later, when asriel still wont believe you and you are slowly losing your mind, he goes out to tour colleges.

and kris is staying at your house. and there is nobody to stop you. and asriel doesnt believe you but if it is his little sibling stuck up in everything, and, and, and...

and then the next thing dess knows she has descended into the bunker with a five year old and come out somewhere else, somewhere FAR AWAY, and. by the time shes back in her right mind shes in way way too deep to ever go back. she CANT go back. besides, what help was asriel? he never believed her! her BEST FRIEND, and he wrote off everything she was scared about!! thought she was making it up, but she WASNT, and she'll PROVE IT, and she'll SAVE THE WORLD, and then they'll see. then they'll all see.

that town, that bunker--it is going to kill her sister. and dess will do everything to keep her sister safe.

even if it means she has to lug a kid around.

so, time passes. dess wanders. kris wanders with her. dark worlds here work sort of like mystery dungeons in the pokemon mystery dungeon series, but a lot fewer people know about them. there ARE, though, forums, and small local places where people meet up and swap stories and try to defeat them, which is where dess needs to be, but she cant do any of that with a five year old. so she takes to leaving kris at hotel-rooms and daycares and doing her best to schema-hunt (this group calls dark worlds 'schemas'), and its when picking up kris one of these times that dess meets chara.

chara has also had xir own run-ins with schemas. its what led to xir having frisk--getting stuck in a schema that was Awful for xir mental health, led to a lot of self-hatred around being a loveless aromantic, and a few dubious situations later xes pregnant and after xir own childhood of never being wanted and realizing that as bad as everything leading up to this has been xe WANTS this kid, xe has frisk. for two years chara struggles as a college dropout and a single parent barely scraping by, still dealing with lingering schema-trauma xe cannot talk to anybody about, and...then xe meets dess.

its not a love story, because both of them are aromantic, and chara doesnt love, anyways. but its two people who have been struggling and alone and scared finding someone else who UNDERSTANDS. its how dess finds someone who believes her when she talks about the schemas, who doesnt write her off. its chara making a friend for maybe the first time in xir entire life. its how theyre both trying to raise kids on their own but its not so hard when theyre together.

the honeymoon stages are REALLY good. its chara who has never been anybody's first priority, but now xe is dess's, and it is probably the closest xe will ever get to understanding why romantic love appeals. its dess who has a place to actually REST, not her and a five year old hopping around hotels, but somewhere she can call home. dess and chara can talk to each other about everything, about anything. about the things they've seen in the dark and the deep. about how scared they are for the kids.

they get an apartment together. they get married. they make up a new last name to share. the kids start going to school. chara officially adopts kris. neither of the kids remember a time without dess and chara both around. things seem like they might actually work out.

but dess is so RESTLESS, see. she has this amazing place, with the people she loves most in the world, but as chara settles down xe starts to put xir time in the schemas behind xir. devotes xirself to being a parent, to going to parent-teacher conferences, sitting through meltdowns and fights and being the parent xe never had in xir life. dess hates how kris clings to her whenever she is around. it makes her itch. like shes being held down.

dess starts spending more time on online forums. staying out later and later. goes out on trips--for a day, two days, a week. meets other people like her, people who dont know how to stay in place, people who need to find and close schemas, who save those trapped in them. she maybe starts to miss chara's calls. she maybe misses kris's birthday. she loves chara more than she loves anybody else, and that includes the kids. she comes home and can barely last a few days before she has to go again.

shes not meant to be pinned down by kids. shes supposed to be OUT THERE, saving the world. she and chara fight, more than they ever used to. she hates it when chara cries but she doesnt know how to make it better. maybe if she keeps running, keeps diving into the dark, she'll figure it out. maybe when she saves the world everything will be okay. then she can rest. then there wont always be this nagging fear at the back of her head, this nagging fear that everything she has is going to come crashing down around her. then all the missed calls will be worth it, all the broken promises made okay.

she's dess. defeater of schemas. and one day she'll make it back to that bunker, and destroy it, and her sister, the sister she hasnt seen in a decade, will be safe. one day she'll call asriel and this time he'll believe her, and forgive her. one day she'll go home and sit down next to chara and this time when she promises to stay, she'll mean it.

just a little longer. then she'll fix everything.

(meanwhile, chara is back at home, waiting for a wife that wont come back. sometimes in the middle of the night frisk creeps into xir bed and asks why dess is never home, why chara doesn't divorce her. chara doesnt know how xe is supposed to tell this child xe very nearly did not have that dess is the only person who chose to love xir because she could. that dess is the only person who was there when chara had nobody else. that sometimes when it is very dark xe thinks back to the schema xe was stuck in, for so very long, and the prophecy xe heard there. how xe saw dess and some part of xir knew, then, that surely, this is who those ancient words spoke of. dess, with her glorious warmth and light.

chara is the one who stayed behind. chara is the one who deals with all the struggles of raising two children-now-teenagers, who watches kris, waiting always for dess to come home; frisk, who doesnt speak of her at all. xe doesnt know if xe's doing the right thing. xe just wants xir kids to be OKAY, and, selfishly, to be loved by someone even if xe can never return the feeling.

one day frisk comes sobbing to chara and spills everything: that kris, who has only ever wanted dess to be proud of them, who knows dess is one who slips into the space between light and dark and comes out again, has dove into a dark world of their own, and has not come back out.

and chara who already knows xe will dive into the dark xirself if that is what it takes to bring kris back safe wonders if maybe xir selfishness is what will get xir children killed.)

[moonfang256]

Dreams about Deltarune (Part 7)

Back to the dark dreams, this one I had was emotional and now I'll explain why. I call it:

"Nightmare"

This dream starts with me walking down a hallway until I reach a door. Once I get close to the light, I see a figure in the distance.

As I got closer, this is what I saw:

This figure was none other than Dess Holiday, but she was corrupted. She walked towards me in a strange manner, as if she were a monster from a horror movie.

I stepped back a bit from how scary she looked, and then I saw a little Kris about Frisk/Chara's age running away from us.

Because of the situation, I decided to follow them and we both ran away from that place. Dess didn't do anything, so she just stood still and watched us fleeing from her.

We ran down the hall for a bit until we came to another door. As we entered, it seemed like we had arrived at the Holiday's house, where Kris immediately fell to their knees and began to cry intensely.

That was all they said and a little Noelle came over to ask:

Kris couldn't answer. They were panicking and no words came out, so they continued crying silently without saying anything.

I, who was watching the scene from afar, also began to cry. It was very painful to watch and it made me sad to see these kids suffering like that.

From here this dream ended.

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If I had to interpret it, it seems it was Kris's nightmare, and since my soul is connected to them, I was able to see and feel it as they did. If this is what Kris dreams about constantly, then I can already imagine why they don't sleep well at night.

(Darn it...)

[estellardreams]

I JUST HAD A HUGE THEORY!

So, y'know how Deltarune shares a lot of similarities to Undertale? With the monsters on the surface and having the main human able to be controlled by the player?

Well, I kept considering the theory that Deltarune is an alternate timeline of Undertale. But I kept trying to figure out how this could work.

According to Deltatraveler (I know it's not canon just stay with me here) there is a younger Noelle and Susie, and Frisk was commented by Dess to be a "Younger Kris".

However, I immediately ran into a road-block over Kris and Frisk. The idea of Frisk being Kris from the past came to mind but then I remembered that Frisk is their true name and not whatever you entered in. The name you entered in is the first child's name.

(Fwi: It's NOT Chara. Yes, Chara is called "The true name" but Chara is just short for Character so it doesn't count. Regardless, whatever you name the human doesn't matter in this situation. The human we play as is named Frisk, end of question)

And now we're left with either two options: Kris and Frisk are seperate entities or Frisk died/changed name and Kris took their place in the Dreemurr family.

Now, let's go with the former thought: Frisk and Kris are seperate. That means we need to at least confirm that the pacifist ending where we split off and go our seperate ways is canon. Frisk becomes the monster ambassador and Toriel later adopts Kris.

Okay, now what? Seems seamless, right- WRONG! We're missing someone...

Asriel. He's in college in deltarune, but a flower in Undertale. Yes, he's back to normal in the pacifist ending but does revert back into a flower later on so this doesn't make any sense.

So either A. Asriel never died at all in this timeline which I doubt (until later) OR B. Flowey got a soul and became Asriel again. Also no, I doubt this.

But as I got to thinking, I came to a realization... Don't Toriel and Asgore look older than their counterparts in Undertale? Boss monsters don't age unless they have children who are alive.

AND THEN I HIT AN EPIPHANY! The only way Deltarune and Undertale could differentiate in the timeline is when Asriel was BORN.

That explains why he's still alive and in college! But then we might be asking about Frisk, and I have an explanation for that!

Frisk... Still exists. It's just that they chose not to stay with the monsters and became the main ambassador for them on the surface.

The story goes that Asgore and Toriel used to live together. Then the first human fell and they took them in. Unfortunately they died due to buttercup poisoning and with Asgore realizing he could use their soul to break the barrier and placing this plan in motion, Toriel divorced him.

Then the next five humans came down until we finally encountered Frisk, who, through sheer determination, used their soul to help shatter the barrier. Monsters reached the surface and they agreed to become their ambassador before splitting off.

After monsters integrated back into society, they took up normal human jobs and roles. But Toriel slowly began to miss having a child around. Asgore eventually made amends with her and the two finally decided to have a child together; Asriel. Things kept going smoothly until Toriel, while visiting a human town, came across Kris in an orphanage and decided to adopt them.

The two Dreemurrs seemingly got into a feud over money due to having another child and got divorced yet again, this time for real. With Asgore scraping by and Toriel with a stable job, she continued to raise both kids with Asgore not having much custody besides visitation rights.

Soon enough Asriel went off to college and Kris got into school. And the rest is soon-to-be history.

Magic did slowly fade out since rarely anyone ever used it, seeing as being in the underground was now millenia ago. It's such a distant memory that no one acknowledges this dark part of their past.

And that's it! Thank you for hearing me out.

[redybearsent]

(Undertale AU) Earthsecret (a.k.a Generation Swap)

I know some else had an AU called Earthsecret but I wanna draw attention to the word HAD. Anyways. Earthsecret! An cool name for what is basically Undertale Generation Swap.  The premise is simple, every main character swaps with some one close to them that´s from a past generation. For example, the current royal scientist, Alphys, swaps with the past royal scientist W.D Gaster, and so on with others, ofc, there are some odd balls for some choices but they are there because they have connections with the role of the character they are now in. 

Roles:

Frisk <-> Kris  (reason: they are both the protagonists in Toby Fox´s games and have a close relation with the Dremurr and Hoilday families)  Flowey <-> Noelle´s Angel Doll (Reason: Because Asriel <-> Noelle, ofc) Toriel <-> Rudy (Reason: They are both very close with the respective children of their families fulfilling the role of the caretaker and housekeeper)  Napstablook <-> Seam (This one is the first odd ball in the bunch. Reason: They both have a nihilistic careless nature and because the mini bosses swap with the secret bosses) Sans <-> Grampa Semi (Reason: Semi is implied to be Sans and Papyrus´ grampa, I based him on Sans and Paps´beta design. He´s a  journalist and detective for hire) Papyrus <-> Muttler (Doge) (Reason: Even if this one doesn´t make much sense I choose to swap Paps with this world´s first canine unit member and current protector of snowdin) Undyne <-> Gerson (Reason: Gerson was the past Royal Guard captain, it makes sense that Him and Undyne would swap)  Mad Dummy <-> Jevil (Third weird swap. Reason: They both share a ballistic erratic nature and also a relation with the person in Napstablook´s role) Alphys <-> Gaster (Reason: Gaster was the royal scientist before he was shatter between time and space. Now he´s alive and Alphys fell in the CORE) The Amalgamates <-> The Gaster Followers (Reason: Because Alphys <-> Gaster, ofc) MTT <-> Spamton (Now this one makes a lot of sense taking in mind the previous mini bosses swap and Gaster´s role.  I won´t elaborate much, you can make an image in your mind) Asgore <-> Mayor C. (Reason: They both share a powerful and politic position in their respective game, where, they are both closed and moor the loss of a child of theirs)  Asriel <-> Noelle (Reason: They both have an important role in their respective games narrative and even if it would have more sense to choose Dess for this, I think Noelle is better) Chara <-> Dess (Reason: Both mysterious meta characters on their respective narratives. We know so fewer of them and that is enough for me to swap them. They are the cursed kids of their families)

https://www.deviantart.com/redybearsart/art/Undertale-AU-Earthsecret-1013476557

[chacochilla]

Various Undertale Headcanons

Felt like doing this. It's mostly about minor characters and NPCs

The Froggit you speak to about the yellow names is friends with the ruins dummy. That's how it can get the entire underground to change their spare names from yellow to white or pink, despite being unable to leave the Ruins. It just asks the Dummy to tell the folk outside. That Froggit is also one of the only people that know they exist. Most others don't realize that dummy has a ghost living in it

The last non ghost, human, or flower to leave the Ruins were Whimsalot, Final Froggit, and Astigmatism. They had to 'face the horrible monster that guards the gate to Snowdin' to leave (Fought Toriel until she opened the door for them. Toriel didn't do much fighting). Whimsalot feels a lot of guilt for leaving Whimsun behind

Crystal (Snowdrake's mom) was born incredibly weak and was always bound for a short life. The reason she fell in love with Snowy's dad is cause he joked around about her condition. Those around him thought his jokes were in poor taste, but Crystal appreciated someone making light of her situation instead of just treating her with pity and sadness. The jokes sounding mean to Crystal was part of the reason a rift grew between him and Snowdrake

Ice Cap's family has a strong tradition of making ice clothing. It started off as a way to make armor easily, but later just became for cosmetics. Ice Cap's love of its own hat comes from them wanting acknowledgment and attention from their family. Its hard mode counterpart would be called Ice Sage. Probably look like a wizard

Noelle's mom grew up in Snowdin forest, far from Snowdin Town. Gyftrot is an older relative of hers, and like them, she enjoys solitude. Her outgoing husband managed to break through her shell a bit, but after his death, she went back to being a hermit.

Noelle and Dess often sneak off into town together. Going off to get them back home is one of the only reasons Carol ever leaves the house. The townsfolk are slightly intimidated by her

Assuming Dess is around Burgerpants' age and Noelle is around Frisk's age, they'd be about 19 and 12 respectively. Might make them closer to 17 and 13 just to they weren't born so far apart

The red bird in Grillby's is Berdly's mom. Berdly himself is in Hotland for school and to work with Ms. Boom, so they usually don't see each other often. Berdly does call a lot though, red bird telling him about the goings on and gossip in the rest of the underground. I'm unsure what became of Berdly's dad

Alvin is a professor Hotland University, teaching history with an interest in religion and legends

Waterfall has a lot of farms we don't see. Aaron lives on one, but was always more interested in flexing and working on his muscles than actually working. His brother did most of the work around the farm until he fell down. In Deltarune, his brother's still alive, and Aaron is a little jealous of his physique

Loren and Rainy kid are friends

Catti's hair is natrually purple, like her mom's. Catty helped dye it black with a pink streak

Bratty has two younger siblings. Creepy twins

[watermelonships]

My take on a Undertale & Deltarune fusion AU/a "Deltarune is a sequel to Undertale" AU. (No clue what to exactly call it but I'm gonna tag any posts relating to it with UT/DR Fusion AU).

Any fan content I make for this AU will probably focus on the events that occur between Undertale and Deltarune. And of course, this AU is (obviously) headcanon heavy.

Random details about the AU (part 1) ->

•Frisk and Kris are two separate humans & both are the adopted children of Toriel. Flowey is still Flowey. –Frisk is in twelfth grade and Kris is in eleventh grade by the time Chapter 1 of Deltarune happens.

•Frisk was eight when they fell into the Underground.

•By the time DR Chapter 1 roles around, Frisk technically takes the role of DR!Asriel. But instead being away at college, Frisk is just on a week long trip doing Human Ambassador stuff during DR Chapter 1, 2, and 3. –Chapter 1 & 2 happen as normal (on a Thursday and Friday), but Kris opens the Chapter 3 Dark Fountain on a Saturday night instead of a Friday night.

•The exact trait of the Red SOUL is unknown, most common theorized traits are: Determination, Love, Compassion, and Freedom. Regardless of the trait, many hold the belief that those with a Red SOUL have been directly blessed by a Heavenly Being.

•The Legend of Delta Rune has been around since before Asgore’s grandparents was born, but the Lightners that had heard the entirety of the Legend are either dead or scattered across time and space. –Lightners was once aware of the existence of Darkners and the two worlds used commonly communicate with each other. However, as tension between the humans and monsters rose, the more Darkners got pushed to the side. Eventually the existence of Darkners and the Dark Worlds were forgotten. –Darkners/Dark Worlds were completely forgotten about by the Asgore became king.

•Frisk can SAVE/LOAD/RESET in the Light World but cannot in the Dark World while Kris can SAVE/LOAD/RESET in the Dark World but cannot in the Light World. Frisk temporarily loses the ability to SAVE/LOAD/RESET in the Light World whenever Kris in the Dark World. –All Darkners can see Kris’s SAVE Point, but the only ones that can see Frisk’s SAVE Point are Flowey, and Chara.

•Order of Frisk’s resets: A handful of Neutral Runs (Undyne Ending w/ Papyrus Alive -> Exiled Queen w/ Papyrus Dead -> Alphys Ending) -> Genocide -> True Pacifist (technically Soulless Pacifist)

•Order of the fallen humans: Chara -> Patience -> Bravery -> Kindness -> Kindness -> Perseverance -> Integrity -> Justice -> Frisk.

•There’s two Anomalies. Frisk’s Anomaly (F-Anomaly) and Kris’s Anomaly (K-Anomaly). –F-Anomaly didn’t have any control only Frisk, it silently guided Frisk on their journey through the Underground and kept them on the necessary path. F-Anomaly happened upon the world naturally. –K-Anomaly has complete control over Kris, but only when there is a Dark Fountain open + a several hours after it’s been closed. K-Anomaly was introduced to the world through Gaster.

•Chara's a ghost and they follows Frisk around. Only Frisk and Flowey can see them. But there's a chance they become visible to Kris whenever they rip their SOUL out. –Actually, all of the Fallen Humans became ghosts post-barrier breakage. And Frisk & Flowey are the only ones that can see them (+sometimes Kris whenever they rip their SOUL out). But the ghosts become do come visible to everyone while in a Dark World.

•The Bunker led to Gaster's old, pre-Underground Laboratory.

•Dess got scattered and now exists in a void-type space called The Depths with Gaster and the Vessel. –Dess became scattered while exploring the Laboratory section of the Bunker with Noelle and Kris. –The "Will now be Discarded. No one can choose who they are in this world." text of the Goner Creator is Dess speaking. –While the Goners attached to Gaster are his followers. The Goners attached to Dess aren't people, but instead the belongings she had on her when she scattered (her guitar, baseball cap, various music sheets, a flashlight, and, most interestingly, a video camera).

•Susie has an older sister (who I might name Julie) and a bunch of younger siblings. She lives in a small apartment with them and her father. Her mother is no longer in the picture. –Susie never once stepped foot in Hometown prior to moving there. Not even during the first year after the barrier broke. She moved to Hometown the summer between her tenth grade and eleventh grade year. –Due to not paying attention to the Royal Family while living in the Underground and the surface school Susie went to before moving to Hometown not teaching about Monster History for a longest time; Susie managed to get by without not realizing that Alphys was the Royal Scientist and Toriel was the queen.

•Possible order of Dark Fountains: Card Castle -> Cyber World -> TV Dark World (w/ Toriel and Undyne) -> Café Dark World (w/ Catti and Jockington) -> Church Dark World (w/ MK and Chara) -> Flower King Dark World (w/ Asgore and Susie's older sister).

•Alvin Knight? Kris Knight? Vessel Knight :shruggingemoji:

[the-white-soul]

Flowey: You don't care about your own kid! Toriel did! I did! If anyone is listening right now, that should make sense. I bet a blind person could make the most rational decision here if that means they can't tell who's human or monster.

You're calling them dumb them nonstop, saying and acting like you don't even care, degrading monsterkind which had the only people who actually showed them love. What kind of a living being are you? Is everyone insane here?! I showed you proof and yet you still think we were bad to them! Why would they trust us so much when they ran away from you, their "family," to kill themselves, only to fail and kill themselves again for our sake!

*He's providing so much good reasoning, but this woman remains full of so much hate and ignorance. What's the point in trying to be nice if this is what he'll get? Almost no one else is even trying to speak up (Thanks, John) which gives thim the impression either no one cares and they're all with Chara's mom, or they're too scared to say anything. Either way, that means there's no reason for him to not lash out.*

What the fuck did you do to Chara?!

*Vines suddenly grab and whip the crazy mother, and even worse than the way the police beat Toriel, Flowey begins to snap bones and slash deep cuts without a moment of rest. He wraps a vine around her head, adding increasing pressure until it would explode like a watermelon. The whole time he forms a tall, thorny circle around them that would push away anyone who got close, preventing anyone from interfering and shielding the eyes of children and cameras. Once she is killed, he drags the body under the dirt and lets down the makeshift barrier. He looks angry and slightly teary-eyed. He mutters to himself.* ... I bet Chara felt way more pain than that.

All the others flee far, knowing what they're up against. (Kara) "Wow, that was fantastic." Papyrus had his mouth wide open. (Dess) "Why didn't you tell me about his power? Yeah, I know they stopped Clover, but an entire field of people. Speaking of fields, I should tell you something important. The Flowey in this world isn't Asriel. I don't know who it is. No one besides Frisk does." (Kara) "Well, let's meet this Flowey. John, you're coming too." (John) "Well, I guess the humans would kill me in an instant. I'll go." We all started 'walking'(Flowey just digs) to their home. (Kara) "Hey, speaking of which, what did make you want to be a good person.' (John) "I was one of Chara's classmates and… There was a brief pause as John looked to Flowey I'm not going to say what happened unless Flowey wants to know. Long story short, it made some of us very angry. Thank god she's dead now." Flowey popped out of the ground (Flowey) "Hi everyone." (Kara) "Um, hi. Why do you…" (Dess) "KARA GET DOWN!!!" A barrage of bullets comes Kara's way, which they dodge. (Flowey) "What's wrong? You must've learned already. I see you have a little flower friend yourself. Hi Buttercup, you have a fire inside you. I'm glad at least that never changed. So cat's out of the bag, I'm not just Flowey." (Kara) "Well, what's your name?" (Flowey) "I've been called many things in my day, a demon to some, a savior to others, but to you, buttercup Shows heart locket I'm your best friend forever!!!" (Kara) "Chara." (Chara Flowey) "Yep, that's me." (Kara) "This is great. I can bring you to the humans. I'll have…" (Chara Flowey) "You think they would care? You and I both saw what happened back there. Plus, it's funny." (Dess) "FUNNY?!" (Chara Flowey) "You don't realize how hilarious this is? People are as blind as a bat. I can't believe it sometimes. Humanity always surprises me." (Kara) "I know, but it's worth trying to see if humans agree." (Chara Flowey) "Started laughing in everyone's faces. You're being serious? Your pain is the most fun I've had in a while. Why would I give it up?" (Kara) "You are one of the worst Floweys I've ever met." (Chara Flowey) "I want to watch the world burn. =)."

[stainedglassthreads]

There are occasional edgy fringe theories about how Kris killed Asriel, and Ralsei’s Light World form is Kris’ headband covered in dust. And shortly after Chapter 2 dropped, before most of the fandom more or less agreed that Dess was lost but not confirmed dead, I do remember seeing one or two theories that  Kris killed Dess and Asgore lost his job by covering for them. 

I’m not really a fan of either of those theories. I feel like the Asriel one is just baseless speculation and shock value, while as for the Dess one, most have disregarded it and for good reason: there’s just a LOT more evidence for her being missing, even in a supernatural way, than being dead. 

But there is one character who might actually be dead who I’ve been disregarding for a while, and now want to give a second glance over. 

Kris Dreemurr. 

There were a few edgy theories in Undertale, of course, that Frisk was dead. Every seemingly lighthearted fandom has its bizarre ���it was all a dream’ or ‘this character was in a coma’ or ‘they were in purgatory all along’ theory, Undertale was no exception. I feel like this theory doesn’t completely make sense in Undertale. While Frisk and Kris share certain parallels, the idea that Frisk cannot live or exist without the Red Soul is not explored or even brought up, and as we move on from the game, it’s made pretty implicit that Frisk does get to live their own life (presuming one does not reset.) Between the brief glimpses of after the game ends that we get, Flowey imploring us to ‘let Frisk live their life,’ and the soft implication that the monsters may be speaking with Frisk in the Alarm Clock Dialogue... Frisk suddenly dropping dead the moment they reach the surface would come kinda outta left field, especially when Toby took the care of setting up what they may be doing on the surface-- living with Toriel or serving as Ambassador of the Monsters or starting a new adventure. 

But for all their parallels with Frisk, Kris’ situation is different. It’s made clear that they struggle a lot with the Red Soul. A parallel between them and Spamton is made, and when Spamton cuts his strings, expecting to be a real boy, he falls to the ground and does not get back up, in a very downer moment. 

The implication, taken to its logical conclusion, implies that without the Red Soul being inside them for too long, Kris might actually die. But it does beg the question... Was the Red Soul always their Soul? And if not, where is their real Soul? What happened to it? 

There are a couple of theories about where Kris’ real Soul is. If it was left in the Bunker, or if Gaster took it in a deal of some sort. I do not have anywhere near enough evidence to say with certainty where Kris’ soul is, so any guesses of mine would be 100% speculation. But I have to wonder if Kris technically died some time ago, and has been limping along by ‘borrowing’ the souls of passing entities, or something similar. If perhaps, rather than killing Dess or Asriel in the Bunker... ‘Kris’ was the one killed, and only ‘survived’ by becoming a passenger in their own body. 

I don’t think I’m the only one who’s theorized Kris may be dead. I do recall one other theory post citing how Susie calls Kris ‘the class zombie’ as possible unwitting foreshadowing on Susie’s end. I think we need more information on whatever the Red Soul is, how long it’s been there, and if there were any prior possessions before we can make a certain ruling either way tho. We’re still in just Chapter 2 out of 7, and I’m sure there’s a lot of things we don’t know. 

tl;dr: Asriel is alive. Dess is yet to be seen but probably not dead dead. Frisk is probably not dead post-Undertale, and probably goes on to live a long and happy life, before you reset. Kris would be less fine if the game ended and they were still stuck with the Red Soul. 

[am-i-sans]

dnd adventures 33

inferno and dess went to eeby deeby so no trauma right now F.

cam pops back in pog!

suzy asks annika where everyone is. suzy is trying not to laugh at how confused she is. cam starts going in undynes direction. annika follows but not suzy.

we meet up pog! cam doesnt notice anything lol. frog hugs cam aww. undyne warns cam about how weird the cave is. cam realizes suzy isnt there. welp. we all head back cams way to find suzy. annika is flipping through a book the nerd.

cam hears a small child giggle behind them. cam stops and hunches into themselves. dans puts an arm around cam to help support them. their just repeating its not real over and over. we agree to blow up the cave later. annika says shes heard of caves like this. defensive measures against intruders. just left the treasure here to be defended by this weird cave. is the cave alive?

undyne smells blood thats fun. she starts mouth breathing to avoid that lol. cams elbows start hurting, where they ripped those feathers out. dans rubs their back poor thing. undyne hears suzy yell and sprints ahead. we follow.

suzy is feral trying to kill something and undyne is trying to tell her its not real whatever it is. so does cam. suzy screams she can fucking see it and they tell her they cant see shit. undyne starts walking through whatever suzy is seeing to show a point. suzy has a trolled face lol. suzy cant see cam apparently. undyne tells suzy to let whatever it is hit her. suzy is in denial lol. undyne tells tori to watch suzy. tori reminds undyne its her fault lol.

cam once more hears netty and survey having a grand ol time. they turn around and stare into the cave. dans asks what their hearing. cam doesnt respond. he places his hands on their shoulders trying to get their attention and shakes them a little. vivi also starts speaking (cam vivi not me) cam squawks, escapes from dans and runs off. undyne is like wtf and goes to get them since shes faster. con save?! cam wtf!? tori stops frog from running off.

cam cast thunderwave and damaged undyne and dans also got pushed back wtf. stalagtites fall from the ceiling. cam sees a hole in a wall and where the voices come from. they dive in the fucker. undyne cant fit lol. cam turns back to undyne and says something in bird that undyne doesnt know. she storms off pissed.

dans hears frisk calling out for him to come play. frog is trying to convince tori to let them get cam. dans is trying to ignore the voice and wants to just get the scroll. undyne arrives pissed and asks if everyone is ok. tori says their fine shes juggling kids. undyne checks on dans and puts an arm around him. he says hes used to the voices,not the first time its happaned. she notices the blood on her hands and quickly drops them again lol. annika wandered off again whatever. gonna get the scroll first.

cutting to cam! back in their old village with their friends and family! they tell cam their baby is a delight to take care of. cam is tearful and wiping their face. circuit grabs cam calling them mom and cam picks them up. their just chirping to each other. "are you and spamton coming for tea later?" cmon cam snap out of it.

frog keeps trying to escape tori. undyne says cam made their choice. dans says they can fetch cam after the scroll. frog calms down but they arent happy. tori can smell smoke oh no. she holds frog a little tighter. a drop of blood hits undynes head and runs down her face and the walls drip blood. she tries to look down but the ground is covered in blood. dans asks if undyne is ok but yeah nice try undyne. he keeps a hand on her since shes keeping her eyes closed.

dans keeps hearing frisk dammit. calling out for dad anxiously. he still tries to ignore it. we bump into annika. dans lets undyne know shes here. she yells at her for leaving the group. we reach a crossroads. dans lets undyne know. undyne stops smelling blood but keeps her eyes closed. she says to go left pog. dans leads her lol.

theres a bunch of random treasure chests and shelves full of old books. annika runs right to the books. dans leads undyne to a chest to see if its locked. dans has undyne break it open. its gold! dans puts it away. suzy also starts breaking chests lol. dans goes to check the piles lol. suzy also got some gold lol. undyne takes a peek out and shes free nice.

5000 gold, a large gold bracelet, several staffs, a cloak and a crystal ball. tori sets frog down and they go to check the books with annika. dans also goes to check the books. theres a few gems in there and dans takes them. annika finds a book about necromancy. a scroll of fey protection and divinitation. undyne takes the fey and dans gives the other to frog. time to head to the other path. (theres more loot but were gonna sort that later so we can lore)

still havent found the scroll i guess. gotta head to the last chamber. undyne sees blood everywhere again and closes her eyes. dans sees this and puts his hand on her arm to lead her. tori hears behind her nella calling for her. shes trying to remind herself its not real. they keep calling her. dans looks back and also calls her. undyne calls tori and reminds her its not real. dans offers his other hand to her and she takes it. she does look behind her the dumbass. its nella holding the twins hands. 'why did you kill us?' as their flesh burns off. tori snaps her head around and dans squeezes her hand hard. dans moves tori's hand in undynes so they dont get seperated lol. undyne keeps urging her to keep going and starts kinda dragging her lol.

dans keeps leading them lol. frog starts running off dammit they hear music. undyne tells tori to focus on frog running off. tori is fucking dragging undyne with her lol. frog falls into a hole! the hole disappears! tori is desperately slamming the ground calling for frog. she tries to cast passwall on the floor. she sees frog down there and tori tells undyne to stay put while she gets frog. undyne grumbles and says no and heads toward frogs voice. she sticks the landing falling in lol. dragging tori down. she yells at frog for running off. frog says they heard their old performing troupe and they got excited! undyne peeks and doesnt see blood. frog pats her hand cute. undyne picks up frog no escaping now. still holding tori's hand.

annika says they should get the scroll. dans sighs and asks suzy if she wants to go get frog or go get the thing. frog calls up to suzy from the hole lol. dans asks if annika wants to go down the hole. tori says we cant assume nothing here wont hurt us since cam is missing. undyne bitches everyone keeps running off. dans says hes gonna find the scroll in case its causing the illusions. suzy walks away goddammit.

dans and annika go to get the scroll lol. undyne says kids are too stressful why would tori want them lol. their talking about talking to rocks and shit lol. tori the flat earther. their following frog toward a light. their being friends! tori is a fucking troll i swear. undyne asks how tori teaches and raises them. frog asks where tori got the money for a house. tori lived alone in a cave for 40 years then met frog :3 the trees have rich inner gossip.

back to team dans. dans keeps glancing at the bone hammer suzy has. he asks if she would want it enchanted. maybe some fire? "you can do that?!" shes totally down for that. and a fire knife lol. dans hears behind him Tamara. (you weirdos remember her? you better.) 'dans, where am i?' dans freezes in place. suzy fucking keeps walking dammit. annika calls out to him. he doesnt respond. suzy notices finally and turns around to call him. dans eyes are pinpricks and just jittering around.

suzy is like fuck this and just starts dragging dans. he just lets her drag him like a dead weighted doll. (cam is still having a great time goddamn.) we find the scroll! dans picks up the scroll and puts it in the bag.

undyne and the others are still walking in the tunnel. frog just wants to play instruments. undyne is surprised they let suzy in the house lol. congrats undyne your a mom now lol. undyne says dans is her buddy :3 their recapping how they met and shit. tori admits she would totally kill everyone else to protect frog wtf tori. she doesnt trust anyone stop being sus tori. their both saying theyll do what they have too. undyne admits she cant look at blood right now aww. frog hugs her awwww. tori let something slip about her situation and her mom hmmm.

dans tells the others to go find cam. dans wont let annika read it until we get out of the cave. we find cams hole! dans tells the others to stay out and look for the others so he can go get cam. its so dark he somehow cant see. he hears them chirping and follows. their singing a lullaby goddamn. dans gently shakes them. cam sees him in their house. dans reminds cam this isnt right. he gently cups their face and tells them circuit is long gone. he reminds them the dragon took them away. he keeps reminding them of the others outside. "would your family want you trapped in a small hole for the rest of your life?" cam is trying to deny all this dammit. dans tells them to feel their scarf. he gently tugs them. 'let them sleep.'

in the meantime, tamara walks in dammit. joint hallucination he can see circuit now. 'dans we have to let circuit sleep.' he manages to turn his back and tells cam we have to leave. cam is confused who this lady is. 'your not supposed to be in here.' cam isnt buying her bullshit. shes not real. dans squeezes cams hand and reminds them we have to go. dans gently leads them toward the door. cam grabs his wrist and drags him, bolting. their families keep calling for him. dans keeps up with cam but he is crying. 'dans please come home.' we escape!

suzy is like wtf. cam is openly weeping. dans is sitting on his knees quietly crying. annika is so fucking lost. undyne and the gang wind up on the otherside of the mountain? undyne asks soupnik if anyone left the cave. nope. she wants soupnik to try and get them to come over here when they get out. their just gonna wait there. frog is collecting money for a swear jar lol.

[outoforderau]

(Almost) Everything you need to know about Out of Order:

Think of scrambled eggs and puzzles (mostly puzzles); almost everything is out of place, hence the name 'Out of Order'.

- Susie replaces Kris as the one adopted by the Dreemurrs.

- Kris is from the canon (game) timeline, but they were plucked from it after the events of Chapter 1 came to a close, meaning they enter the Out of Order timeline without a SOUL, and are given a weak, damaged one that can't do anything by the time they wake up and realize where they are.

- Kris isn't fond of Susie because the little knowledge they do have of their current situation allows them to know that they'd been essentially 'replaced' by her. They take out their anger on her because of this.

- Almost every character-- even if unchanged from the canon timeline-- has a different look from what Kris is used to.

- Kris only slightly remembers the events of Chapter 1 up until a certain point. They are also actively losing any knowledge of the fact that they don't truly belong in this timeline, and their amnesia is amplified by save loads and resets. Once the memory of who they're really meant to be is gone, they will become just like Susie. Only one person knows this is happening, besides the person who took them from their rightful timeline.

- Dess isn't missing and Asriel hasn't moved away to college. The latter still lives at home and drives to college because its only one town over, and the former is said to be studying 'magic' science at a top level university.

- Chara and Frisk exist as angel and devil on Kris' shoulders, but only for as long as Kris keeps their sanity/sense of self / stays in the Out of Order timeline. They also go by different names, Patience and Temptation, though they call each other Frisk and Chara when they get upset with one another.

- Kris has vivid daydreams and stuff of the like about horrible/unusual things happening, and often confuses them with reality (I promise this is important).

[jutpa]

AU Guide

Note: While I am capable of answering questions in character for some of the characters (as I'm certain of what they've been through and I can use all that to help give hints as to the lore), I currently do not have the talksprites for any of my characters, with the sole exception of ALTSWAP!Sans and Papyrus, who have no talksprite.

To make sure I know which character you're asking, just put in the acronym for the AU, shown in brackets.

WALL OF TEXT UNDER THE CUT

EXTENDED SHIFT

An Undertale AU based on Storyshift, but with more characters to shift. The first shift's roles are:

Gaster > Frisk > Mettaton > Asgore > Gerson > Undyne > Papyrus > Chara > Mad Dummy > Gaster Followers > The Six Human Souls > Napstablook > Toriel > River Person > Alphys > Sans > Asriel > Ruins Dummy > Gaster

UNDERTALE - Retake

A collection of takes on certain AUs.

Fable of the Fallen (FotF)

An Undertale AU in which Frisk swaps with the six fallen humans, among other things. The areas are also inverted, meaning smaller areas like the Core and New Home have been massively expanded while more significant areas like Snowdin and the Ruins are a lot smaller...

It is heavily story-based and I intend to eventually make a sprite comic for it.

You can ask Chara, the Story Person, and Gaster questions.

????

The Deltarune counterpart to Fable of the Fallen. I'm not willing to reveal any information about it currently...

ALTSWAP (AS)

A very, very random swap take with some influence from Deltarune, although I doubt Deltarune could have possibly influenced me deciding to swap Gaster with Sans and Papyrus.

You can only ask Sans and Papyrus questions, don't worry, there's still plenty of lore there.

Pastlaw (PL)

The Deltarune counterpart to ALTSWAP. A secret-main boss swap fused with a chapter swap.

WARPEDSUN (WS)

A Deltarune AU based on the original version of Underswap. Kris swaps with the Vessel, Susie swaps with Ralsei, and the rest? Well, you'll have to wait and see...

AFTERMATH (AMX, see AFTERMATH Guide)

A very ambitious take on the post-neutral concept, seeking to create some form of timeline for every possible variant of the neutral endings, with the exceptions of the Dog and Dirty Hacker endings.

Currently, you cannot ask any characters questions. However, once I've got talksprites set up, you'll be able to ask all of the leaders (Toriel, Undyne, Mettaton, Papyrus, Alphys, all in their respective endings) questions. I'll have another post that just covers all the endings that are being covered so that it'll be somewhat easier for me to tell which timeline you're talking about.

SOULRIFT (SR)

How many reboots is it now? It's just a Papyrus-Frisk swap along with some more custom human-monster swaps and... finally... an official lore explanation for how monsters won the war.

Darkmyth (DM)

A lightner-darkner swap AU and the Deltarune counterpart to SOULRIFT. While SOULRIFT was mostly a swap AU, this one's a lot more focused on shifting roles, and is intended to have an independent story from Deltarune, as Seam and Jevil search for Ralsei in the transformed ruins of the destroyed Light World...

You can ask Seam (who swaps with Kris), Jevil (who takes the role of Susie), Dess (who swaps with Ralsei), and Kris questions.

VISIONSWAP (VS)

A take on DELTASWAP specifically inspired by Vision Crew's future chapters take. Chapter 1 swaps with Chapter 5, Chapter 2 swaps with Chapter 3, and Chapters 6 & 7 are both very confusing and probably going to be completely replaced with brand new things, given I've already decided on swapping Ralsei with... Hex, of all people.

Asriel swaps with Kris and Vi swaps with Susie.

SUPERSHIFT (+S)

My take on tripleshift or whatever you call storyshift but three times.

Basically just a side project, although I have a basic idea as to how the characters will be written. You can ask Frisk, Toriel, Asgore, and Napstablook questions.

REBOOT INCOMING, MAJOR LORE CHANGES WILL HAPPEN, DO NOT EXPECT ME TO ANSWER ANY +S ASKS RIGHT NOW.

Hosted on AO3.

[acaciapines]

please tell us how dess would approach kris’ species dysphoria & how she would teach him to deal with it. if she doesn’t just laugh awkwardly abt it and try to ignore it

actually!!! this is the one thing dess has going for her lol, i like to joke that in this au by losing their identity issues kris instead gains mommy issues. but basically, the big thing that even LEADS kris to all their identity issues in the first place is that when theyre like ten they find a book on humans in the library and realize them being a monster is a Lie, and around this time azzy is leaving for college, their parents are divorcing, dess has just gone missing, they're cutting themself off from noelle, and its this perfect storm for everything to go to absolute shit for kris. they lose their monster identity, everyone around them is trying to comfort them by saying 'its okay if youre human we still love you' when kris ISNT human and THAT ISNT HELPING, and theyre angry and bitter and a lot of kris's anger comes out as aggression and when cornered/when they feel theyre cornered they tend to lash out, which then bleeds into them realizing that of course they werent ever a monster because monsters are good always and theyre not a good person and coyotes are bad animals and kris isnt good or a monster and they sure as shit arent a human but maybe they can be THIS...etc etc etc. its a shitshow lol, but you know that we've seen how i write kris elsewhere.

BUT IN THIS AU, none of that happens!!! kris is 5 when dess dips with them and thus never actually finds out they're biologically human, or at least, not in the way they do in my canon. unlike asriel (who sees kris calling themself a monster and worries), dess is like 'alright cool' and just updates her mental kris file with 'is a monster' and so she treats and sees them as such.

that isnt to say kris doesnt struggle with species dysphoria, because they do, and they do probably eventually find out their body is biologically human (tho i havent really thought much about how that goes lol). but when this does happen they have chara who supports them, dess who supports them, frisk who supports them...and while they still idealize DESS to an unhealthy degree not being the only human in an all-monster town (+ having a human parent and sibling) means they never actually start idolizing ALL monsters in that unhealthy way.

so, the kris of this au isnt human, and very much feels uncomfortable when they're read as such. but their family (dess, chara, frisk) know them to be a monster. and they're able to model their appearance to appear more monster-like. i dont have a FULL design for kris yet (cause character design is my achilles heel lol) but they for sure wear a pair of antlers (akin to the horn headband, but these are Real Bone Antlers they probably got at an antique store that were modified so its like, feasible for them to wear these pretty much constantly), some sort of modified shoes/boots so it sounds like hoofclicks when they walk, probably other things i havent figured out yet...

its to the point that kris tends to be read as monster more-so than they're read as human! which has implications for when noelle first meets them, of course...but thats for another time.

and for those who might be wondering 'wait but isnt your kris a coyote?' they are! this kris is the same kris who goes on to be a coyote, its just kris's coyote-ness does have a very physiological origin lol. takes a few very specific circumstances for them to go coyote and not monster. but no matter what they are never a human <3

[officialambassadorfrisk]

DnD Adventure 22 - Moss Edition

Shades was tired so you get me instead!

Half of us aren’t here so Dans, Undyne and Cam just got eeby deebyed

“Oh shit… everyone’s gone” -Dess, still slightly cooked

Frog: Now what?

Dess: We’re gonna go kill Dans’ fuckbuddy I guess

Frog: …what’s a fuckbuddy?

Tori: No-

*wheezing*

Charaty is dying help

Discussing whether we should talk to Steve or just kill him

“Murder is wrong” “Only if you get caught”

Suzy wants her own dick club and Tori said no >:( let her cook!!

Dess is approaching Steve!

“Hey do you deal in curses and dark magic? Are you, perhaps, a stupid motherfucker?” DESS STOP

He says he doesn’t know anything. Insight check for Dess! It’s a fucking nat 1! She leaves.

“He does fuck Dans a lot” “HE WHAT!?”

Undyne’s not here with Soupnik so now what?

Dess really wants to kill Steve lmfaooo

We’re going to the inn! Frog wandered off because of course they do

Side quest time!

Dess asks another adventuring party to move so she can see the notice board. A fairy turns around and tells her to go shove a stick up her fucking ass. She pulls out the dick club. Fairy is confused as fuck we’re going great

Dess calls him short and he tries to challenge her to a fight. His friend, a centaur, stops him and pulls him away

Dess reads the notice board! There’s a green dragon a while away. Dess tells Tori and Suzy that they should go fight it and asks the fairy and co (Magpie, btw) if they wanna come. He gets mad because they were already gonna fight it. She calls him little. He says he’s not little. She tells him to say that to her face, so he flies up and punches her in the face, so Dess grabs him and swaddles him like a baby. The third group member, a goblin, finally turns around and agrees to come with them.

Time to find Frog! They’ve been busking :] they got 24 gold they’re so proud of themself. The centaur introduces herself as Tymeneus and says the goblin is named Stags.

Off we go!

Tymeneus asks how they started travelling together and is very confused lol

We’re here! Tori rolled a nat 1 on investigation and looked directly into the fucking sun. We’re doing great

The dragon is here!

“Holy shit that’s a dragon” -Dess

Dess then tries to flirt with it but Magpie shoots it with his longbow! Goddamnit Magpie

Suzy attacks because of course she does! She does a whole 12 damage! Roll initiative

Tori uses lightning bolt! Unfortunately Suzy was directly in front of it so she also takes damage. The dragon is judging Tori lmao

I am bad at notes esp during combat um it’s shit lol. Also it’s judging Dess for the penis club

FROG JUST DIED!? I’M???

Undyne shows up and kills it! And then immediately goes to help Frog

They’re back! Just like Frisk fr

Undyne bear hugs them because holy shit. Tori reminds her to be careful, trying not to cry while Frog just has a thousand-yard stare and then starts crying my poor child :( Magpie is judging Dess for antagonising them when the kid just started crying

Undyne is trying to comfort Frog gaaaah. Dess pipes up and asks Tori what Dans is gonna do when he finds out Frog died. Instant lightning bolt. Undyne hands Frog to Tori ;-; 

Dess introduces the other group and says they’re part of the ‘Dick Club’ now. Undyne is pissed because this isn’t the time for jokes. Dess says that’s the name and that Suzy agrees. Suzy tells Dess to shut the fuck up and joins in on the hug. Tori gives Undyne a look and she kinda sighs and picks them up in a bear hug and Dess leaves.

Undyne puts the group down and talks to the others. Magpie seems to recognise Undyne. She does Not recognise Magpie. Tymeneus heals Tori and Frog and the gang leaves. Undyne checks on everyone and admits that took a toll on her as well. Emotional vulnerability?

Anyway, they head back to town to get a room so everyone can rest.

And then we talked about Undertale!

[mythicaldemigoddess-of-deltarune]

Deltarune AU OC: Penrose “Rose” Holiday (2023)

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[Note: Don’t Reblog Without Permission, and it might be best to click on the drawing to make it bigger to see it better.] 

Credit for Undertale & Deltarune goes to Toby Fox

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this is a different version of my first version of the OC named Penrose aka Rose, well this would be Penrose The Skeleton’s Counterpart from another Timeline and World...

she has the same name and nickname as the skeleton version,

but she isn’t as shy or timid, and is like adventures ball of energy.

she is still Sans and Papyrus’s distant cousin...

but this version of Penrose, doesn’t live with her Grandparents:

that make up her Grandwa & Grandy, because they died when she was very young....she was in a orphanage that had both monster and human children in it, and she was adopted by Rudy and his wife, and became the baby sister of Dess & Noelle.

unlike her skeleton counterpart, who’s soul trait is just kindness.

Rose’s Soul Trait is Half Kindness & Half Perseverance.

and while she can do the same type of magic as her Skeleton Counterpart,

all but bone magic that is....

Rose has magic that her skeleton counterpart can’t do.

such a channeling her magic through a gem that she wears as a necklace.

Rose can also do telekinesis and flight magic, which she can do when she channels her magic from her soul and body by using the emerald that she wears.

when her new family found out she could do magic, was when they gave her the emerald necklace for her first birthday (the orphanage was given info on the year, month and day that Rose was born, and they told the Holiday Family.)

like ya know how Pan from Dragon Ball Super ended up flying in the air...?

well picture a 1 year old Penrose doing the same thing but holding a emerald necklace that her Mom and Dad gave her, and both her parents and older sisters looking freaked out at seeing little Rose flying around the house.

and even Asgore, Toriel, Asriel and Kris being there as well and the only one who seem calm being Kris, while their parents and older brother is freaking out just like the Holiday Family...

and they finally were able to get the flying baby human down like a hour later.  

while this version of Penrose, who’s full name is Penrose Holiday from a Deltarune Timeline, is technically a human...

she could count as a “Witchling”...

and yeah I had decided to make her blood type “O RH D Negative”

her having a Ancient Blood Type, that can freely do magic once it is unlocked, does seem like a interesting idea.

and once again, I’m still procrastinating in checking to see if my blood type will come out as O RH D Negative for a third time.

I will try to make time when I can to do that home blood type test again.

since Rose is much younger than Noelle and Kris, she is in what Susie might call “the baby class” and she is the student of Miss Toriel and is the only human so far that is in her class, unless there is a Frisk in that timeline who ends up being a younger sibling of both Kris and Asriel.

and if that were so, that would mean there would be other humans living in Hometown besides Kris.

in the timeline Penrose “Rose” Holiday is from, both she and Frisk are Nonbinary-Girls.

like Frisk’s birth name is Franziska and they got their name “Frisk”

from finding it in their birth name “Franziska” and it spells out “Frisk”

Frisk is the little sibling/sister of both Asriel and Kris, and I guess if she is much younger than those two, then she might also be in the same class as Penrose Holiday, and that would mean that Toriel would also be Frisk’s teacher as well.

and if there was a Chara in the world and timeline that Penrose Holiday lives in.

Chara might be a bit older than Frisk but also still younger than Kris, Susie and Noelle and the rest who are in the same class as Kris.

like Chara being around Lancer’s Age, and maybe being the Adoptive Little Sister/Sibling of Susie, like in that timeline, Chara is also a Nonbinary-Girl,

who’s pronouns are she/her & they/them.

and Chara’s birth name is Charlotte, there is some info that I found before that has to do with the name Chara is a diminutive of the name Charlotte.

Kris might not be a Enboy or Enbirl, and might just be a Enby...

that would mean that Kris is just Nonbinary, doesn’t have a “Boy” or “Girl” at the end, and doesn’t view themselves as a Enboy or Enbirl.

Kris could be very protective of Frisk, those two sharing a type of sibling bond does seem interesting.

anyway I just wanted to try to draw a counterpart of Penrose The Skeleton, which when I did do that drawing of the skeleton version...

it was before I had to change my tumblr name to “mythicaldemigoddess-of-deltarune” and there was a good reason as to why I had to change it...

Penrose Holiday is like the Opposite of Penrose The Skeleton, and not just because one is a human and the other is a monster.

Penrose Holiday isn’t as shy or timid as her skeleton counterpart,

and would probably get too hyper if you give her too much sugar.

like picture her screaming “Anarchy” while in the classroom or in dark world, and using her magic all over the place, and it being because she was given too much sugar, and her Mom only allows her to have a small bit of sugar and can let her a lot of sugar free foods that taste like it has real sugar in it.

Penrose Holiday, doesn’t have green energy ethereal hair like her counterpart does, but she does have hair that is in a plum color and her eyes are the same color as her counterpart’s orbs.

which happens to be in a light green color.

in theory, humans can do magic, but can only channel it if they are wearing gems, like either a bracelet or necklace or a ring or all of them.

I still am using my gem bracelets to act a sealing charms and limiters for myself, even if they can still be used for the other stuff as well.

I’m not taking any chances, like I said I don’t want to end up like Carrie White from the Carrie Movie Series or Alessa Gillespie from Silent Hill Game & Movie Series...

it might sound silly, but I don’t want it to get too strong.

when some stuff I held with my fingers started to move like my pendulum, I had decided to use my gem bracelets as sealing charms and limiters...

and of course when I had kept one of them off for too long when it started to become too snug, the prayer and program used on them to make them sealing charms and limiters had broke, and I had to redo the prayer and program, and of course I used the food salt and held both the bracelets and the salt in my hands while praying once again, but this time making it so that the gem bracelets still worked even if some are off for a long period of time...

but it might be possible if I have to have some other bracelets off, and I try to test to see if they are still working, like on a pen or a bottle of pop that could have something in it or it being empty...

even when having the bracelets on, there seems to be a bit of a small shake, I don’t know if it was because of my arm or it trying to move but can’t.

but while taking off my bracelets off, and testing the pen, by holding it with my fingers, and thinking clockwise and even circle, it still ended up moving a bit like my pendulum....

I never really had this happen before, not until I got a pendulum.

I think it might of unlock something inside of me, I mean that is possible.             

well I’m still going to keep wearing my gem bracelets and have them act as sealing charms and limiters, cause once again I don’t want to have it get to the point where it becomes like Carrie White or Alessa Gillespie.

because I know I wouldn’t be able to control it, and if I have to keep my gem bracelets off, it should only be when I need to take them off.

but I can still have them be put back on like afterwards.

I hope it is true there will be a third Silent Hill Movie, I loved the other two.

and disgusting inhuman filth like Christabella from the first movie, got what she had rightly deserved for what she and her followers did to Alessa.

I don’t think Alessa became soulless when she made Sharon, or when she had made Dark Alessa, she possibly had fragmented a dark and light parts of her soul, the small bit of goodness still in her heart, was all placed into a fragment and would then become Sharon.

for all we know, Sans and Papyrus could of been born from fragments that came from Gaster’s Soul.

and if Gaster was their brother, he would be different from the version that is their father, which to tell those two Gasters apart, one would be Gaster Sr. and the other would be Gaster Jr....being both Father & Son, one being the brother of both Papyrus and Sans, while the other that is Gaster Sr. is the Father of the three skeleton brothers.

Gaster Jr. could of ended up falling into the dark world in Deltarune, while Gaster Sr. fell into the void in Undertale.

it might be interesting if one of Penrose Holiday’s magic skills, would be being able to see a invisible Gaster Sr. when he crosses from Undertale to Deltarune.

to see what no longer exist but at the same time still does, one that wonders through time and space between realities.

Penrose Holiday having super strength, seem like a interesting idea...

it could have to do with her magic, and picture her picking up Asgore who is much bigger and a full adult, and her being but a small child.

her counterpart, Penrose The Skeleton, doesn’t have super strength or super speed, they might share some magic skills but there are some they don’t share.

Penrose Holiday can’t do bone magic, and Penrose The Skeleton never really had to use a gem on a necklace to channel her magic that comes from her soul, but Penrose Holiday does and if she tries to channel her magic without using a gem, well I think the age that Penrose Holiday is, it would be dangerous for her to try to use magic without a gem, because she wouldn’t be able to control her magic and it would be like her floating in the air in a light green bubble with purple aura around the light green bubble of light.

and her eyes glowing a bright light green, her pupils not showing and some purple energy like flames forming around the eyes where it is all light green.

the only way to stop her from having her magic going fully out of control,

would be if either a Boss Monster or Monsters like Sans and Papyrus, were to grab her by using their magic, if this happen in the dark world, then either a boss monster or a skeletons like Sans or Papyrus would work to stop Penrose.

like it needing to be a very powerful darkner or lightner, that can stop her magic from getting too out of control.

but once she is given a gem, either her necklace or bracelet, her unstable magic will become stable again.

but her going too long without a gem to stabilize and channel her magic, could put her life in danger, like because of her young age and small body, her life would be in risk and she can become very weak and feel like when you haven’t had anything to eat for a very long time.

so long as she or human children like her do get help right away when accidentally using their magic without having a gem on their person, they shouldn’t be in danger that would put their life at risk.

like it could turn out that human children in Deltarune, when they show signs of magic in a very early age, they need to have gems to act as a charm for them to channel their magic, and they must wear them at all times, and if it is a necklace, they will have to take them off when they go to sleep.

and when it is a necklace and they have to take it off when they go to sleep, they have to have the necklace be placed close by, maybe on a nightstand or in a small bag and place it under their pillow.

and as a alternative when they still might need to wear a gem, even as they sleep, they could have on a special gem bracelet, to make sure their magic doesn’t activate while they sleep.

Kris never had to worry about having to wear gems, because they didn’t show any signs of magic, but for all we know they could be a late bloomer and once they do show signs of magic in the light world, they will have to wear a gem to help protect them and channel their magic.

the stronger the magic a human child has, the more likely they will have to wear more than just one gem.

Penrose Holiday only wears a emerald necklace, which means that she might not be as powerful as those who will have to wear more than just one gem.

but for all we know, she could be wearing more than just the emerald necklace.

like she could have gem earrings that also lets her channel her magic, but she could of turn out not to have those earrings on when she lost control of her magic when she didn’t have her emerald necklace.

if I decide to, maybe I will write a short fan fic about Penrose Holiday sometime. 

her being the adoptive child of Rudy and Mayor Holiday and the adoptive younger sister of Noelle and Dess Holiday, is only from a Fanon Timeline in a Deltarune AU, which is not like her skeleton counterpart who is being raised by her Grandparents, but in the Deltarune Fanon Timeline, Penrose Holiday’s Grandparents are no longer around and she was placed in a orphanage and ends up being adopted by The Holiday Family.

maybe I will do a drawing of the two versions of Penrose standing side by side.

well not now though, but if I decide to do that drawing idea, I will draw it whenever I can...

I’m glad I decided to draw a human counterpart of the Penrose The Skeleton. :)                          

[justmossyall]

(i’m gonna go ahead and give a big fat spoiler alert for anyone who hasn’t played undertale, deltarune, or undertale yellow. also apologies for this gigantic post but i have an unhealthy obsession 😭)

*visibly shaking* ok so basically it’s the best game ever

so it’s created by a guy named toby fox, there’s undertale and then there’s the “sequel” (not really it’s complicated) deltarune. and OMG THEY ARE SO GOOD. so undertale is about a human named frisk (technically you name them first but find out their real name later) who has fallen into the underground, where monsters have been sealed away, and the monsters need the human’s soul to break the barrier (they are the last of 7). the whole point of the game is that you don’t have to kill anyone to win, even though everyone is trying to kill you. there are three routes you can take - Pacifist, Genocide (also called No Mercy), and Neutral.

Pacifist is the “good route”, where you don’t kill anyone and save the underground and all the friends you’ve made along the way. it is SO INCREDIBLY SWEET and it’s usually the first route people take if they have prior knowledge of the routes, since it’s the best outcome for everyone.

Neutral is in between Pacifist and Genocide, where you kill some monsters but not everyone. This route is arguably the most complex and yet the least fleshed out, since there are dozens of different endings you can get, but the “ending” is really just different phone calls from sans and other characters telling you what happened. this is usually the first route players take if they’re going into the game blind with no knowledge of how the game’s routes/mechanics work, and (arguably) it can leave a bad impression of the game on players since (again, arguably) it’s the most “boring”.

aaaaand then there’s Genocide. this route is where you not only kill every monster you meet, but you go out of your way to hunt down every last monster in an area until there is no one left. i don’t want to spoil toooooo much, but this route turns the fun, sweet, lighthearted game into full-on psychological horror. it’s a really chilling experience and it’ll stay with you for a really long time. it’s also incredibly difficult to pull off, and it’s where the famous Megalovania song comes from - the boss fight at the end of the game. what I really like about this route is that it’s wonderfully well done psychological horror without any gore, which i try to stay away from in media.

undertale is a freaking MASTERFUL game. i can tell you way more, but i fully recommend you try playing each route (or at the very least watch a playthrough of the pacifist and genocide routes).

ok, onto deltarune. deltarune is still coming out with new chapters, so i can’t give you quite as much info, but i’ll do my best. so deltarune is sort of a sequel to undertale??? but not really, it’s more like an au. you play as kris, the only human in a town full of monsters. it brings back the cast of undertale and puts them in new roles that are both delightful and very interesting to see. you are sent to go to the supply closet with susie, a purple dinosaur-ish girl who also happens to be your bully, and fall into a dark world where you meet ralsei (who looks suspiciously like your older brother who is away at college…….but i’m getting ahead of myself). the big mystery of the game is the knight, who has been prophesied throughout the chapter. it could very possibly be ANYONE IN THE FREAKING GAME. there’s also the angel, who is speculated to be noelle, though again it could be literally anyone. there’s a lot more lore but this summary is already waaaay too long lol. there’s also the mystery of noelle’s sister dess, who is missing. that hasn’t been as developed yet, but will almost certainly be a major plot point later in the game. (again, i can tell you SO much lore, but this is supposed to be a summary lol)

currently only chapters 1 and 2 are out, and they’re free to play! chapters 3 and 4 are set to release together, hopefully this year but if not most likely next year. those chapters and the future ones will be paid.

chapter 2 also brings back the No Mercy route, which is called the Snowgrave Route or the Weird Route in this game. you manipulate your friend noelle (who we see in ch 1 but gets a much bigger role in ch 2) to use her magic to kill everyone in the dark world. it gets pretty crazy, arguably even creepier than undertale’s genocide route since you are manipulating your childhood friend to do these horrible things instead of doing them yourself. there’s also a popular theory (it’s all but been confirmed tbh) that you, the player, are controlling kris against their will, and they are trying to get you to stop (especially in the snowgrave route). there are pivotal scenes where kris rips their soul out and frees themself from your control and does some pretty odd things that are sure to be plot relevant later. they also open a new dark world at the end of ch 2, which will definitely be the setting of ch 3.

again, we don’t have all the information yet, since the game is far from completed. but so far it is SO GOOD. lovely characters, amazing world building, and a spectacular plot. it is setting up to be a phenomenal game (i mean, it already is, but even better lol).

ok, last thing. on december 9, 2023, a fangame called undertale yellow came out. it is not an official toby fox game, but OH MY GOSH IT IS SO GOOD. it’s about a human named clover who falls into the underground. they are the yellow soul (frisk is the red soul), which is the human that falls down before frisk. you start out in the ruins like frisk, but end up falling down even deeper into a whole new area. this game is AMAZING for so many different reasons, particularly the amazing plot and character development, but i think my favorite part of the game is that the neutral run is much more fleshed out. there’s a whole new boss fight that is my favorite in the game, plus an interesting ending. the neutral run also has some reeeeally nice psychological horror that is so well done. another really awesome thing is that there’s actually two pacifist routes - True and Flawed Pacifist. i can’t explain it super well without major spoilers, but it’s such an interesting mechanic and it’s done really well. (plus the soundtrack is FIRE) obviously this game is not canon, but it’s so well done that it could be. plus the game is free!!

anyways! i’m so sorry for this ginormous post. if you have any more questions let me know, and i ✨highly✨recommend playing all three games. have a lovely day!

hey there! i saw in your pinned post that you desperately want people to send you asks (you’re just like me fr 😭), and i will never pass up a chance to infodump. are you, by chance, well acquainted with the undertale franchise?

omg no?? i’ve never heard of that but id love abt it it sounds so cool???

[zora-moyashi]

... ah kris you sweet summer child. we love you.  okay so yall want my head cannons? haha well you’re gonna get them anyway. ramblings ahead

first off the only thing I can think of that kris would say to make susie back of like this is “good” in response to susie saying their mom will be so much happier without them after susie bites their head off. cause, ya know, that’s kinda messed up. while susie acts the way she does we’ve learned that she’s really got a good heart under there so that kinda hit her and she left them alone for the day.  now, saying kris is suicidal is not a stretch with how we’ve seen them act, pulling out their “own” soul, having no energy, falling asleep in class basically instantly, their friends (asy, dess, and noelle who feels like kris doesn’t care about her) not being around them anymore. we can just feel the angst rolling off them, and of course wanting the soul to leave them alone so badly that they rip it out very often to just have a second away from us though it clearly hurts. now i’ve had this theory for a while, and i don’t really look at other’s theory’s so i’m 100% certain others have said something basically the same as what i’m going to but i don’t care at the moment. continuing.  

first, kris and frisk have the same exact hair and skin color as you likely know, so it’s pretty clear they are the same person just older. my head cannon is that kris here is a frisk that finished a possessed pacifist run meaning chara owns their soul now and has free run of the world to do whatever they like after the game is over and we lose control of them. so as usual we have 3 people fighting for power here, frisk, chara, and the player you. as flowey has stated, time passes after you beat the game of undertale and life goes on for frisk. now, want to know something messed up? cool, glad you do, frisk was 100% suicidal (in my headcannon) by the time they climbed mount ebott that was all they wanted, just death. this is why frisk doesn’t answer any call on the surface even though the monsters call them, they finished the job after they got to the surface and had control of themself again. (it was chara who tripped and may have wanted to live, just away from humans) if you leave frisk on a normal pacifist run then they go on with life because now they have their friends, life’s so much better for them. in neutral routs it’s all the same as before and they end theirself. chara is with us during every playthrough of undertale because they join the second we join. chara’s soul essence powered up frisk’s and (likely) made them able to reset and that jazz as it was two human souls in one. why didn’t chara’s essence go with any of the other people that fell on their dead body and flowers? red souls so they were way more compatible. chara is probably very sleepy and not really sure what’s going on through the game but during the geno run where you are doing so many horrible things, killing the ones chara was trying to save, you finally wake them up for good.  so, in corrupted pacifist line now that chara is in almost complete control of frisk’s body (or at the very least it’s just chara against frisk sense you finished the game and can’t do anything again) they can finally live their life happily with their monster family. but what’s missing? asriel. The one chara cared most about and got killed. Chara has had a taste of godlike power, why can’t they have their best friend? they can turn back time so why not? that’s where things get messy. I personally think that chara got frisk to agree to get sans’ machine working (that thing in his lab that i presume hops dimensions seeing as he’s from the deltarune world (right??? that’s right right?)) and sense they can turn back time they have all the time they could possibly want to figure this out. The idea is that this chara/frisk combo child finds the perfect alternate universe for themself. one where everyone’s already above ground, one where their family is together and happy, one where asriel is alive. they chose this world to join and make their permanent home. (maybe the coordinates to this au were already in sans’ machine so they got to this place easily) so seemingly to everyone in their own au right after they get to the surface with them, chara/frisk ditches them and gets ready to go to their new home, still a young child as frisk is. chara/frisk now kris, as it’s literally a combo of their names (Chara as in character which should be karacter i don’t know why it’s a ch lmao) then lives out their childhood in this au that they thought would be perfect for them. finally a fair life for two kids that had it rough. chara likely made a deal saying something of the sort “we’ll die after we live our live here” and frisk was like “fine whatever” but keep in mind frisk is so tired, so mentally ill it’s hard to even get up and walk without chara practically making them. hence school zombie. hell, it’s possible that frisk died during the fall to the underground and it really is a zombie. unlikely though.  anyway the theory was that frisk is the one pulling out the soul to finally have full control for a second, that’s why there is blood on the floor by the birdcage before you’ve even had any control in this au, meaning frisk was fighting against chara. however, at the end of chapter one we see frisk’s eyes shine red for a second and that is a chara thing. so that would mean that it’s not just the soul that chara can control, it’s also the body. (which mmmmm i don’t knoooooow about that one chief) chara would recognize your presence and knows you're the one that made them go through all this, you’re the one that killed the ones they loved so obviously they’re like “not today satan”, so i’m still unsure if the soul is us and chara completely or if chara has some control over the body as well. i don’t know and i won’t know for years probably. anyway that is all i think. farewell