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i think about them a lot
#gotham 2014#fox gotham#jim gordon#edward nygma#the riddler#not a ship edit#necessarily#i saw the tv glow#batman#gotham edit
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#gotham#gotham tv#gotham 2014#fox gotham#jerome valeska#nygmobblepot#ed nygma#oswald cobblepot#jim gordon#barbara kean#victor zsasz#skyler posting
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@wishfulsketching said that Ed and Martin should make some deadly umbrellas together, and I can't get it out of my head so it's canon now:
Ed and Martin present Oswald with umbrellas with secret features on a regular basis (like, for the Father's Day, Christmas etc... it's not the only present but it becomes a constant over time).
It comes to the point where he needs a separate section in his wardrobe just for them.
He wouldn't even dream of telling them he's had enough, because he is so touched... not to mention they somehow manage to surprise him with what they come up with in terms of secret features even after years of the tradition.
#gotham#gotham tv#fox gotham#gotham 2014#oswald cobblepot#gotham oswald cobblepot#gotham penguin#edward nygma#gotham edward nygma#nygmobblepot#riddlebird#gotham martin#martin cobblepot
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he’s just a lil fruit bat isn’t he 🤔
#oswald cobblepot#oswald cobblepot fanart#Gotham fanart#doodle#my art#fox gotham#LITERALLY dk where this art style has come from but hey that’s okay
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#dc comics#batman#the penguin#the batman#batman rogues#supervillain#gotham#robin lord taylor#collin farrell#colin farrell#the penguin hbo#fox gotham#olympics#games#funny memes#meme#shitpost#shooter
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☂️❓️🧟♂️🤡
gettin back into the swing of things startin with some doodles
#kapptto#gotham#fox gotham#batman#gotham fanart#oswald cobblepot#dc penguin#edward nygma#dc riddler#solomon grundy#jerome valeska#dc joker#sketch#just doodlin#why cant i fuckin draw#style where? hello?
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2014 Gotham how am I supposed to take Oswald seriously when every time he gets caught in a lie he literally looks like this
#oswald cobblepot#i actually adore him so much what a wet pathetic little dude#gotham#gotham 2014#penguin#dc penguin#fox gotham#skylar screeches#riddlebird#dc comics#the penguin dc
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- a rant
no because ive watched this stupid show 5 years ago, and i only noticed this now?? how???
ok. some context first. this is about fox' gotham, a prequel series to batman. or at least a potential one with slight changes. one of those changes is the relationship between oswald cobblepot and edward nygma (spelled with a 'y' for mayhap legal reasons? idfk its silly). whats their relationship like in the show? well...
theyre gay af. idk what to tell you.
okay so oswalds gay as fuck. edwards... ambiguous. totally ambiguous. he had a girlfriend or 2 and a half (kristen kringle, the-woman-who-shall-not-be-named (aka kristen but... blonde? this show is weird), and lee. not comfy counting lee, but technically shes one, hence the 'and a half')! very straight, much hetero (on another side note how tf is oswald the gay one, like i know he wears make-up and shit but eddies all about theatrics and showmanship and flair and hOW IS OSWALD THE GAY ONE NEXT TO HIM?? ok anyway).
so oswald was (is. be real.) canonically in love with ed, ed was.........., and 'penguin in love' is a piece of music composed by david russo for season three in which the whole "im in love with my best friend" thing took place.
that song has been used all over season three, as far as i can tell not once in season four, and once in season five.
.....or so i thought.
because yesterday, while in another obsession phase (of which i get one a few times a year. ive only ever watched the show once, in 2019, when it ended. still dream about nygmobblepot though. i dont dream about media, like ever, but with them, its different), i saw 5x8 to satiate my never satisfied craving of nygmob scenes, obviously skipping the main story bc i dont care about that straight shit. i got to the scene where oswald kills mr. scarface and frees arthur penn from said mr. scarface, after which ed shoots him in the head because thats what one does in such a situation, thought "aw how cute", again, as one does, and then realised.
what was that background music just now? rewinds.... oh. oh haha, its 'penguin in love'. how fun.
WHAT.
WHY IS THAT IN THERE. WHY DID THEY INCLUDE IT.
correction. it wouldve made sense to have it here. they used it in 5x5 for the speech about not backstabbing each other (wedding vows for murderers fr fr), so using it again after their relationship has solidified wouldve made sense.
note how im saying 'would have'.
because it would have made sense, if they used it when ed said "i accept you for the person that you are, just as you accept me for the cold logician that i am. thats why this friendship is great." they didnt, though. they used another equally heartfelt song for that. dunno what its called, it sounds a bit like 'penguin in love' but isnt, not sure if that one has a specific meaning like 'penguin in love' does.
so when was the song used? at 36:08 – 36:17. barely ten seconds, right before eds lines, right before ed kills penn.
...right when penn was sitting in oswalds lap because theyd been fighting for the gun and os fell on the ground.
now. the most obvious answer to "why in the fucking hell" would be because ooh this dudes on his lap so sexy, but no. no. 'penguin in love' is about one specific thing: love. the pure kind. the kind that makes you giddy with butterflies in your stomach, kicking your legs, while youre on your bed, writing in your diary about this guy you have a crush on. and oswald and penn do have history, oswald was more or less fond of penn, but not in love (i mean where would he have found the room in his heart if it was already filled with EDWARD EDWARD EDWARD martin my sweet boy EDWARD EDWARD EDWA-). im also definitely not thinking that penn was so happy about being free from mr. scarfaces influence and not having to kill oswald (oh yeah, the horror. who would wanna kill oswald, the guy with the big ego, who never does anything for anyone without some kind of endgoal- well, unless your name is edward of course) that he instantly fell in love with the guy. i can deal with the homicidal kind of crazy, but that? no. thats where i draw the line.
the next most obvious answer is that it was about oswalds love for ed. more believable, since its what the song was made for, but more believable doesnt mean believable. or likely. because even if i 100% believe that hes been loving this dude for so long its not something he has to think about anymore for it to be true, im pretty sure that itd be very random to suddenly focus on that when oswald was just about to die. so no, even if its what the song is intrinsically about.
so next most obvious answer is- wait. thats it. huh? theres no obvious answer anymore? everything else is brainrot? oh. oh well. its been five years, im sure its too late to worry about it now. what the hell.
im sure you know where im going with this. or maybe not. honestly idk what the fuck im talking about-
youre smart. you know what im about to say. if it wasnt about what oswald was feeling because he was otherwise preoccupied, and it wasnt about penn because that makes no fucking sense, then who was this song used for? who else was in the room?
...oh.
YOU.
YOU FUCKING IMBECILE. YOU STUPID DENSE PIECE OF-
inhale, exhale. no. don’ get mad, you know he cant help it. you know hes totally helpless when it comes to emotions. just breathe. ok.
i hate him. i hate him so much.
if the song wasnt for oswalds sake, it was for his. because i know hes in love with oswald, but does ed? does the producers??
'penguin in love' is about oswalds love. its about his love for edward. its about their love, their relationship. its about edward just as much as it is about oswald.
a-fucking-PPARANTLY, I DIDNT KNOW THAT!! I JUST THOUGHT OH YEAH OZZY BE THE GAY ONE HAHA FUNNY, I DIDNT KNOW IT COULD BE ABOUT ED DIRECTLY!!!
(why am i like this? what is my life? i will never be normal.)
ed has always been the obsessive one. first kristen (and the woman who shall not be named is just an extention of that ofc), then oswald, then lee. and as weve seen with kristen, when hes obsessed with someone, he can become possessive. absolutely not on the scale oswald is on, but still. theres a wee bit of jelly there. oh you have a boyfriend? better get rid of him! oh you wanna run away from me bc i murdered your boyfriend? better keep you right in place and- oh shit did i kill you? ono D:
this is a huge oversimplification, but you get the point. its there. or at least it has to be there because why else do you get so angy that someone is sitting in the lap of your just friend because they were fighting and they ended up in that position totally accidentally? like thats not normal behaviour, for anyone, unless you have possessive tendencies.
i mean its not like penn was a threat in any way. "he wasnt the threat, the dummy was the-" like i understand ed told penn about the submarine which was supposed to be a secret, but come on, like they couldnt make sure penn wouldnt say anything. so why would ed shoot him? its not even like penn was a random dude where that type of thing would be very inconsequential, oswald knew him. hed worked for oswald, and like i said, oswald was more or less fond of the guy. penns just a poor little meow meow, y u kil him eddie? 🥺
unless this fondness was part of the problem. unless ed saw how happy oswald was to see him, got annoyed but let it slide, then used penn attacking os and knowing about the sub as an excuse to kill him. and why would oswald being happy to see penn be a problem to ed? it wouldnt be. it wouldnt be, unless ed thinks oswald is his.
which makes sense. i know im calling him names and calling him out, but like. oswald told him he loved him like 5 times 2 years prior, i dont blame him for believing that maybe theres something to it (especially since that was the point of 3x14, oswald really being in love with him and surprising himself with it). but i thought ed didnt feel the same way? because hes very hetero? because he had a full-on girlfriend before, twice, technically? because-
"the truth is oswald, you would sacrifice anyone to save your own neck. even me."
"like i said! you will always fail, because youll never change."
hm. i know this is a bit off topic, but i just got a war-flashback and... why did ed sound so hurt when he said that? "youll never change." "you would sacrifice anyone. even me." why does he care? they were friends, best friends, yes, but why does he sound like a heartbroken wife who just found out her husband cheated on her again? why does-
"honestly you deserve this. you are opportunistic, your loyalty is.. shaking, at best, and you will hurt anyone, anyone, to get what you want."
"and yes, i was not a good friend. to you or anyone. its why im alone. but i saw you for what you are and i valued that!"
...why would edward nygma, the man who literally said "i dont love you" to oswald, be jealous of even the idea that maybe penn could have something going on with oswald? and why would he act on it if hes usually so careful to not reveal his feelings (unless its about kristen. the original obsession, the american dream, the just be normal, show them you are normal, and people will accept you)? he wouldnt.
unless oswald just told him that he knows he messed up. that hes sorry for it.
and unless that made him think that maybe theres a chance.
"love is about sacrifice. its about putting someone elses needs and happiness before your own."
"you gave up your revenge for me?"
a chance... for what?
"life begins anew."
"shall we get to work?"
and if theres a chance, hes not about to risk losing it. not this time.
so maybe 'penguin in love' is about more than just oswalds feelings. maybe they were trying to tell us that, yes, we see you traumatised gay kid, were sorry this is all we can give you, but here you go, eds in love with him too, but don’t tell the channel. subtlely. just for barely ten seconds. and maybe it can be enough.
nope, it wont be. im gonna sit here crying about the injustice of not having them kiss on screen in the finale as was originally intended for the rest of my life. seriously though, what is this, nbc's hannibal, where im noticing something new details every single time i watch the show, causing me to spiral? no, i was already spiralling. the spiralling was the reason i rewatched the scene. the scene simply made it worse.
so yeah, im done freaking out about a mediocre show that was cancelled 5 years ago and is honestly not worth anyones time (like, its ok. it might even be better than i remember since its been so long. i doubt it. but its ok).
tl;dr: ive only now realised that a specific gay song plays in a specific episode of a show i watched 5 years ago and the only reason theyd include it in the episode is if the dude that was not canonically in love with the other dude was in fact gay, they just werent allowed to make it canon, so they added the gay song to subtlely tell us about it.
have a wonderful day, hellsite. dont do what i did and go crazy about fictional gay people. i know you will though, that’s why im here too. i hate gay people. these two make me homophobic so bad, i wanna gauge my eyes out and skin myself-
#fox gotham#nygmobblepot#i hate my life i hate this show i hate these characters i hate everything#you dont understand they are my destiel#i mean it#they ruined by life#i have literal trigger words that are just about them thats why im thinking about them this time in the first place#that fucking show isnt even that good is just okay like a 3 stars i dont get it why are they everything#rant#technically counts as an analysis. so#series analysis#nygmob#edward nygma#oswald cobblepot#nobody will see this 1 bc i dont have a following and 2 bc this shows fandom is practically dead but it doesnt matter#this is here so that my brain wont explode#i hate gay people
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i actually told myself i was going to stop drawing them 🫣 but then i saw a reference like this on pinterest….
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hey gotham nation, figured I should post these since I have em and havent yet;
#fox gotham#gotham fox#edward nygma#oswald cobblepot#gotham fanart#nygmobblepot#nygmobblepot fanart#riddlebird#riddler#the penguin#dc batman#fanart#sketchbook#RAAAHHHHH#gaybos
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#skyler posting#vaIeskacest dni#lee thompkins#leslie thompkins#oswald cobblepot#the penguin gotham#jerome valeska#jonathan crane#scarecrow gotham#jim gordon#james gordon#jervis tetch#mad hatter gotham#jeremiah valeska#ed nygma#the riddler gotham#valeska twins#gotham#gotham 2014#fox gotham
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Oswald rising on his tippy toes when arguing with Ed to appear more significant (but only suceeding in being more adorable)
#gotham#gotham tv#fox gotham#gotham 2014#oswald cobblepot#gotham oswald cobblepot#gotham penguin#edward nygma#gotham edward nygma#nygmobblepot#riddlebird#this is not even a headcanon)#he just does this
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I’ve been thinking about transmasc!Oswald a lot lately and where he probably would have had to start out in fish’s crime ranks…
#oswald cobblepot#Oswald cobblepot fanart#nygmobblepot#my art#digital art#fanart#batman#batman fanart#the penguin#the penguin fanart#Edward nygma#Edward nygma fanart#art#Gotham#fox gotham#Gotham fanart#eye strain
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ˏˋ°•*⁀➷ gotham masterlist. ੈ✩‧₊˚
╰┈➤ jim gordon, barbara kean, victor zsasz, oswald cobblepot, edward nygma, sofia falcone, jerome valeska, jeremiah valeska, tabitha galavan
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ jim gordon. ੈ✩‧₊˚
tba.
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ barbara kean. ੈ✩‧₊˚
tba.
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ victor zsasz. ੈ✩‧₊˚
tba.
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ edward nygma. ੈ✩‧₊˚
tba.
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ sofia falcone. ੈ✩‧₊˚
tba.
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ jerome valeska. ੈ✩‧₊˚
tba.
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ jeremiah valeska. ੈ✩‧₊˚
tba.
˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ tabitha galavan. ੈ✩‧₊˚
tba.
#gotham#gotham fox#fox gotham#oswald cobblepot x reader#oswald cobblepot#jerome valeska#jerome valeska x reader#barbara kean#barbara kean x reader#victor zsasz#victor zsasz x reader#edward nygma#edward nygma x reader#sofia falcone#sofia falcone x reader#jeremiah valeska#jeremiah valeska x reader#tabitha galavan#tabitha galavan x reader#jim gordon#jim gordon x reader#imagine#headcanons#preferences#oneshots#x reader
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I'm more than a man. I'm an idea, a philosophy.
#practicin some colourin and expressions lol i tried#art#my art#kapptto#batman#fox gotham#gotham#gotham fanart#jerome valeska#dc#dc joker#dc gotham#the joker#joker fanart#gotham 2014#fanart#drawing practice
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