#for real though if this site goes down (doubtful) or partners with ai companies (also doubtful but theres always a possibility)...
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charrfie · 9 months ago
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Seeing a lot of discussion surrounding tumblr either partnering with AI companies or dropping the site entirely. I doubt anything will actually come of this considering 1) the second thing feels like a false threat and 2) things like this happen every couple of months where everyone's panicking over some site-wide doomsday type of event. However it really does remind me that I should be investing more time into neocities building. If only I wasn't so busy with school....
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ronnykblair · 6 years ago
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2019 Financial Job Outlook: What to Expect Based on My “Time Portfolio”
We get a lot of questions about the “outlook” for various jobs in the finance industry.
Will Job X be around in 10 years?
What about Job Y? Will it continue to pay high salaries and bonuses in 30 years?
But no one knows what will happen that far into the future, and if someone claims to have a clue, that person is lying.
However, you can get a sense of what people think in the near term by reviewing the actions of market participants: how do companies that serve customers in the industry spend their time and their money?
In this case, I am a “market participant” because I create and sell courses and guides geared toward finance jobs.
If I’ve been spending a lot of time and money in a certain area, you might conclude that I’m optimistic about its future.
And if I haven’t, you might conclude that I’m less optimistic, or that the area in question is less popular to begin with.
Here goes:
My “Time Portfolio”
I do not spend that much money directly on content creation. Most of my business spending is in areas like support, web design and development, advertising, and web services.
However, I do spend at least 1,000 to 1,500 hours of my time each year – and often more than that – on course creation.
Here’s where I allocated this time over the past three years (2016 – 2018):
Investment Banking Interview Guide (New Version): 25%
Real Estate & REIT Modeling (New Version): 36%
Excel & Fundamentals (Revisions/Tweaks/Written Guides): 20%
Bank Modeling (New Version): 19%
Time Portfolio = Market View (“Financial Job Outlook”) + Personal Circumstances
If your financial portfolio reflects your view of the financial markets and your personal circumstances, then your “time portfolio” reflects something similar – but in a different market.
The time allocations above roughly reflect my views of the finance job market, but they’re not a 1:1 match.
For example, I didn’t spend time revamping the Bank Modeling course because I think that FIG is a great, high-growth market; I did it because the old version needed updates, and I felt it was worth updating rather than discontinuing.
Also, I did not create completely new courses in the past few years (Restructuring, Infrastructure, Venture Capital, etc.) not because I think those industries are “bad,” but because:
We already have a ton of content to support and maintain, and I’m skeptical of my ability to handle even more, especially in areas I would have to learn from scratch.
Based on the data, I don’t think these additions would boost net sales by more than ~10%. That translates into ~3-4% in additional after-tax profits, which is not enough to motivate me more than 12 years into this business.
Now, to my market view. My thinking around the future of finance jobs is:
“The more complex and customized the deals, and the more relationship-oriented the field, the less likely it is to be automated or displaced, and, therefore, the better its prospects.”
Let’s go through the main industries covered on this site and look at both near-term and possible long-term changes.
With each one, I’ll consider market size/growth, past performance and returns, and vulnerability to automation and technological disruption.
And for fun, I’ll throw in technology jobs at the end as well:
Investment Banking
Companies have been raising capital for centuries and will continue to raise capital going forward, so I don’t think investment banking is going anywhere.
I don’t see a ton of upside to the field, but there’s also relatively little downside. Something fundamental about the economy and financial markets would have to change for IB to go away.
That’s possible, but it’s more likely on a 100-year time frame rather than a 20-year one.
Elements of the deal process will be automated, but the industry is still based on human relationships – so I doubt AI will take over unless robots kill and replace all humans (which I don’t think will ever happen).
At the same time, I’m not super-optimistic about IB because hiring is cyclical and companies tend do fewer deals when there’s a recession or market crash – both of which are likely in the next few years. So:
Near-Term Outlook: Neutral to slightly negative (anticipated market downturn).
Long-Term Outlook: Neutral to slightly positive.
Private Equity
Private equity and investment banking tend to move together, so my views are similar here: the typical PE deal does not lend itself to “automation,” so I don’t a whole lot changing.
Instead, the main problem is that Limited Partners such as pension funds and endowments will keep funding PE firms only if they beat, or at least keep pace with, the public equity markets.
It’s difficult to answer whether or not they’ve been doing this because it depends on the time frame and how you calculate “returns.”
IRR isn’t straightforward at the fund level because of unrealized gains and losses and the timing of contributions.
Based on Preqin data and a WSJ examination last year, the answer is “yes, sort of, with caveats” – and returns have declined over time, especially if you compare pre-2008 and post-2008 funds.
That said, private equity is not at serious risk of displacement, and LPs are likely to keep investing as long as returns stay decent (i.e., they do not greatly underperform the public markets).
Near-Term Outlook: Slightly negative (downturn will make exits more difficult).
Long-Term Outlook: Neutral to slightly positive.
Hedge Funds & Asset Management
Now we move into more negative territory. The data on the number of startup hedge funds tells the story here quite well:
The number of new hedge funds has plummeted, management and incentive fees are down, and the average hedge fund has greatly under-performed the S&P since 2009.
Some of this is due to the rise of passive investing and quant funds (though quant fund returns also haven’t been great), and some of it is due to quantitative easing distorting the markets.
But there’s a simpler explanation as well: the financial markets have become more efficient over time, and some of the most famous PMs (Paulson, Ackman, Einhorn) earned their reputations on a few great years a long time ago.
Even Warren Buffett’s recent performance hasn’t been great.
This is one reason why many funds have been moving into private equity-style investing and away from pure public-markets investments.
But it’s not all bad news – strategies that are more “deal-oriented,” such as distressed and other credit variants, might still attract LP attention and perform decently.
Also, the anticipated end of QE and the potential deflation of the passive investing bubble might help certain funds.
And there will always be mispriced assets; it’s just that as a fund grows bigger, it gets harder to identify bigger mispriced assets.
Near-Term Outlook: Negative.
Long-Term Outlook: Slightly negative.
Sales & Trading
A decade or two ago, if you weren’t sure what you wanted to do in finance, you could have made a good case for either sales & trading or investment banking.
Now, though, it’s harder to be enthusiastic about S&T because so much of it has been automated and/or “merged” with programming and data science.
Desks such as rates trading and ones that deal with more complex products, like exotics and distressed debt, have held up, but areas like cash equities trading haven’t fared so well.
So… this one comes down to your goals.
If you’re interested in the programming/automation angle or more complex products, S&T could still be a good field. Otherwise, I wouldn’t recommend it.
Near-Term Outlook: Slightly negative (automation, but also higher market volatility).
Long-Term Outlook: Slightly negative.
Equity Research
MiFID II has completely changed the business model here by requiring buy-side firms to pay for their research directly, which makes it harder to maintain large ER teams and justify their compensation.
So far, MiFID II is Europe-only, but firms everywhere will be affected because they have to compete globally.
The results so far aren’t great for either the established firms or the independents.
The other issue is that the end customers of equity research – hedge funds and asset managers – are also not doing well (see above), so they’ll have even less to spend on research.
The top Research Analysts still provide value because of their relationships and access to management teams and investors, and I don’t see that going away.
However, I also don’t think that ER is a great long-term career choice anymore.
It’s fine to start out in research and stay there for a few years to develop your network and skill set, but I wouldn’t recommend going beyond that.
Near-Term Outlook: Negative (MiFID II).
Long-Term Outlook: Negative.
Venture Capital
Venture capital is different from everything else here because it’s much longer-term, which means you can’t judge the success or failure of a deal for 10-20 years in some cases.
It took Harmonix, the company behind Guitar Hero, 11 years to be acquired by MTV!
Of course, most VCs underperform the market and many of their reported “returns” are actually unrealized gains.
If you compare venture capital to private equity, VC is a far more hit-driven business, with the big winners and the top few firms generating a disproportionate share of the total returns.
VC is even less likely to be automated than PE because there is limited data to work with, so algorithms can’t “predict” whether or not a startup will succeed based on past trends.
So, all things considered, I’m more positive on this sector.
You could easily work at a VC fund, claim you’re doing something complicated, say that the returns are coming but require more time… and then repeat that each year and collect cash along the way.
Near-Term Outlook: Neutral to slightly negative (expected downturn in the private startup market).
Long-Term Outlook: Slightly positive.
Corporate Development
As with the other transaction-related fields above, corporate development has good prospects because:
It’s unlikely to be automated because deals here, especially for joint ventures, are even more complex to negotiate and structure than M&A deals.
Companies are increasingly building their own corporate development teams to do deals without bankers, especially in sectors like technology.
Even if the financial markets crash, credit dries up, or M&A becomes less viable, corporate development professionals can still work on JV deals, partnerships, or divestitures.
In the near term, prospects may not be so great because of the negative factors above.
In the long-term, though, everything else will help.
The main issue is simply that it’s a relatively small industry, with few openings at most companies and low turnover, so gaining access to the right roles will still be challenging.
Near-Term Outlook: Neutral to slightly positive.
Long-Term Outlook: Slightly positive.
Corporate Finance
I’m less bullish about corporate finance.
First off, corporate finance is a “support role” for most companies, so it’s easier to justify cuts in a recession.
If you look at the three major areas of corporate finance jobs – FP&A, Controllership, and Treasury – a good number of tasks could be automated across all of those.
For example, with the right technologies, companies could employ fewer accountants to review the books; judgment and human intuition are required, but less so than in corporate development when negotiating a complex deal (for example).
I don’t think Managers and CFOs will be replaced because people still need to make decisions, but I expect that companies will do less hiring.
Another negative factor is that some companies previously known for top corporate finance programs, such as General Electric, seem to be… troubled, to say the least.
I don’t think corporate finance will go away, but in the long term, there will likely be fewer junior-level roles.
Near-Term Outlook: Neutral.
Long-Term Outlook: Neutral to slightly negative.
Commercial Real Estate
Many people seem to think that real estate jobs will be displaced and automated, but I’m far more skeptical.
Yes, there are many crowdfunding platforms, data gathering sites, and other startups looking to disrupt the market, but in most cases, I think these companies will be additive/complementary to what real estate professionals already do.
Many engineers think that decision-making about properties boils down to math and logic, but they overlook the human/emotional element as well as issues such as asymmetric information that cannot be solved with an algorithm.
Also, real estate is one of the oldest asset classes, dating back thousands of years, which is usually a sign that it will continue to exist for a long time to come (vs., say, hedge funds, which are very new by comparison).
If central banks attempt to induce massive inflation to deal with the looming debt crisis, real estate also serves as a hedge.
As with some of the other industries, I would argue that certain sectors – such as real estate private equity firms that focus on complex or distressed deals – are in better shape than others, such as real estate brokerage.
On the whole, though, I’m fairly optimistic about the field, though it may not do so well in the near term due to the property price decline that has already begun in places like San Francisco.
Near-Term Outlook: Neutral to slightly negative.
Long-Term Outlook: Positive.
Private Wealth Management & Private Banking
I don’t have a strong view here because I don’t follow private wealth management and private banking closely.
On the one hand, these fields should do well because the rich keep getting richer, which leads to more assets under management by these firms.
On the other hand, similar to other markets-based roles, it’s difficult for human advisers to beat passive investing and quantitative strategies consistently and at a lower cost.
One trend here is the rise of family offices and other boutique firms; similar to the elite boutique vs. bulge bracket divide in investment banking, they are likely to take more and more market share away from the large banks (and they’re even making an impact in private equity!).
So… I would rate from ronnykblair digest https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/2019-financial-job-outlook/
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