#flight rising lore rambles

[corvidus-fr]

super quick musings on Fathoms. i like a lot about the pose + design, but i feel like they kinda suffer from Undel Sameface when everything about their lore is pointing towards "friendly gentle ocean giants". wanted to roughly sketch Merrigan for a side-by-side comparison, and then some rough doodles of how i might push the design in a chunkier, more cetacean-inspired direction - 3 is swapping the features but keeping the overall proportions/layout mostly the same, and 4 is pushing the proportions even further

[pestilentbrood]

VERY long Ramble incoming

honestly now that I'm looking at the auraboa lore situation, I'm just disappointed. There was such POTENTIAL in the idea of the Loop and the horror of a new generation inexplicably being disconnected from it, forcing the newly hatched children into a world totally separate from that perceived by their parents (I mean, hell, they perceive TIME differently!).... but then the writer(s?) just fell ass backwards into Icky Tropes.

I feel like I can see what the idea was, especially with the recent alterations to the Encyclopedia entry... It seems like staff fundamentally understands the true Horror potential here, but... Instead, through the short story, they proposed it through the lens of a condescending outsider character, turning the fears of the older generation into something trivial. And also weirdly demeaning the Auroboa's situation by portraying them as overreacting.

Why... why would you do that? Like, from a storytelling perspective? What's gained from that? Why not embrace the true horror and even Emotional significance of that disruption? Why instead go for "ohh we NEED outsider help we NEED to be saved because we are so helpless and it is so Silly that we, creatures who have never experienced such things, do not know what sleep is"????

And if they WANTED to have a condescending outsider, I feel like they COULD have done that, but it would have to have that character realize the horror at some point. And make it obvious that their attitude towards distressed parents and children facing Eldritch Shit and the Sudden Deconstruction of it was not cool!

(or at the very least be a bit more...idk. Consistent with said outsider character? Juniper just goes from "omg I am so honored that the fascinating creatures of the behemoth have chosen me to speak to" to "oh their wasting my time because they don't know what sleep is. I'd rather be sleeping!! 🙄" like girl... c'mon now. Why are we trivializing it like this. Do you want me as the reader to be invested in their plight or not.)

I mean come on. They're beings connected through one networked hivemind-like system, yet each still maintains a silver of individuality that allows them to move freely throughout the Behemoth that they care for. And they've got an eldritch understanding of time that no other dragon could understand. They're seeing the future, past, and present unfold simultaneously. They're witnessing the birth and death of the world at the same time, and have no way to communicate it to other dragons. The best they can do is maintain their home, and even then, they see its roots spread and decay all at once.

And then the newest generation is suddenly disconnected. An inherent link between parent and child and all dragons in-between, that has existed since the creation of their species, is just suddenly GONE for the newest births. With NO explanation for it. The children have no easy way of communicating with their parents. The children are experiencing time in a way that was not meant for their species. They've forcefully been shoved into a circadian rhythm that they are Not! Built for!

The only way a parent could communicate properly with their child would be when the latter is sleeping, something that is also completely foreign to this species. It would be terrifying for all involved!!!

They are literally experiencing eldritch horror from the perspective of the eldritch being forced into the mortal.

Like why WOULDN'T there be panic!!! And why would that panic be trivialized! Why are we only shown the perspective of an outsider who looks at this situation and goes "Oh the silly tree beasts are being so silly over nothing, it's no big deal!"

That and the way the auraboas talk to outsiders. Like. There was such potential there. Real opportunity to explore how ancient, time-bending beings would communicate to someone who couldn't even BEGIN to understand the intricacies of it.

Instead we got what feels more like baby talk (even described as though they were hatchlings enunciating their first words, which... I dunno man, maybe we don't want to compare them to children like That) and less like... Beings that experience all of time at once. I mean, the hatchlings and the adults speak the exact same way, and that doesn't make any sense given the literal time barrier going on.

I totally get why people thought there was just a language barrier and that auraboas had their own language, thus causing the disjointed speak, and not that it was because They Do Not Experience Time Like We Do. And I feel it would've been far easier to get it across by just... I dunno. Do anything else?? I saw someone on here suggest they speak in the "wrong" tenses, or using multiple tenses in the same sentence, which I think would've been far more clear.

Like, as opposed to "saplings wilt! saplings silent!" just "the saplings will wilt in silence, they've wilted in silence, they are wilting silently." Said all at once like all things are true simultaneously. And if we're going for hivemind, have each auraboa speak in a different tense, all at the same time, and have them switch it up every time. Have our outsider get confused and be like "which is it? are they wilting now, or have they already wilted?" and the cluster of auraboas respond in a cacophony of yes's, no's, and maybe's all at once.

Would've probably gotten across the "alien" vibe they were supposedly going for far better than wide-eyed desperation for an outsider's guidance conveyed through disjointed, in-world described as baby speech.

And also maybe would've had less accidental connotations. Because as it stands, I completely see why people have made the connections to the real world where they have. This doesn't read like eldritch timey-wimey intrigue, or even a respectful look at how younger generations can become detached from their families' cultures over time and the struggles that come with it. It reads like a culture being perceived by an ignorant outsider who (despite supposedly respecting these dragons) scoffs and rolls their eyes because the tree beasts with their funny words are being silly again, and that Hey, isn't it actually a great thing that the children are fundamentally different in all manners now? Because now they can join the rest of us in the "real world."

Yknow. Ick.

(I Personally think it would've been better to have the perspective be one of the Auraboas themselves, especially one of the children, to really understand what was going on here. Give us the full brunt of the mind of a creature experiencing all of time interwoven as one shape. The waters fall and the oceans crash with waves. They've now fallen to drought. The ocean has yet to be born. Caves have been carved out through the waters' currents. And when I break from this timeline, I open my eyes to see a child, the child not yet born, the child born now, the child born yesterday. Why can't I hear it? Why couldn't I hear it? Why won't I ever hear it?)

I dunno. People more qualified than me to speak on this matter have already torn the lore apart, I'm just... dropping my own two cents. Potential got weirdly squandered and we ended up instead with unfortunate implications and tropes that could be connected a liiiittle too awkwardly to irl situations.

*Also, before anyone points out: Yes, I know the hatchlings aren't COMPLETELY detached from the Loop and can join it when they sleep. But the fact is, these thangs never had to sleep before. That wasn't in their species' nature. So that's still weird and foreign for them on both sides. And since the hatchlings now have a circadian rhythm, they can't stay connected to the loop permanently. And also Also, seeing as the previous generations aren't experiencing time linearly, who's to say they even recognize when their child joins the loop? They'll speak with an echo of their child when that child was last asleep ages ago, not knowing that it's not them presently, because there is no 'present' for the older generations.

[clansnaphance]

Recently completed these two men and am obsessed with them please look

Isidor • Vahan

(accents: Stariy Knyaz by hydde • year to year by auroshen)

[linkedin-offficial]

flight rising lorestuffs

[cometcats-fr]

Coatl with a name I cannot decide on

[crazydrawsblog]

I fucking hate the lore of my flight rising lair (mostly) can some of you guys tell me the lore of your lairs I need some inspiration

[laikaflash]

This may sound a bit tenuous, but bear with me. One of favorite things in Flight Rising's worldbuilding is that there's a whole freakin' ecosystem in a sewer. You can extrapolate that from not just the monsters in it, but the food items you win as loot. I think this applies to the rest of the coliseum venues, but I'll focus on this one. I don't have in me to cobble a hypothetical food web but just to give some idea of it, the Toridae and Threshers would be that environment's apex predators. There's an interesting variety of creatures in that stage's loot: jumping spiders, mussels, beetles, several different types of fish... And where do you think the conch shells and coral are coming from? Life finds a way.

Anyway, I'm bringing this up because I've just found out that ecosystems are a theme in Dungeon Meshi. I didn't think it would be my kind of thing, but at least there's my kind of geekery in it? Sounds worth a watch to me.

[creatuesfromthedeep]

Reblog and drop a meme hyper-specific to your FR lore without any explanation.

[fancy-feathercroak]

The Bogsneak breed has been associated with multiple territories of origin, scholars have debated and printed many documents trying to explain to wich of the eleven deities does this Dragon owe their creation.

Some suspect the Earth domains due to their primitive resilience, others the Nature domains due to their savage adaptability.

However, some occult texts and ostracized members of the world tell a different story, a secret one that few whisper about.

The story of a mysterious and old alchemist named Baldwin, whose wisdom was unparalleled from anyone before him, and whose origin was also unknow, and that from the brief moment of his presence in this world, he shared secrets of magical nature far beyond dragonkin imagination.

He was the first recorded Bogsneak, and only after him, others followed...

(As always please open the image for better quality)

[naphiatra]

Named after his parents, Inniatra was all but forgotten over time. He eventually decided to do something so he would be forever remembered, so he consulted a dark entity lurking in the shadows of his forest home. The former dragon traded his physical form for power, existing only as an idea and as immaterial as air. 

Only his vile gaseous concoction keeps him tethered to the mortal realm. Now he stalks the night, a mere whisper of a warning to young hatchlings to be wary of being swayed by sweet words.

Did a revamp of an old child from my progen pair. I’ve always wanted to make an invisibility cloak dragon, so here’s my first real attempt!

ID is 43177112 if you want to visit him

[st0rmy-fr]

@tanija-fr

they are girlfriends

[stormrot]

kinda wish we could adopt Emperors tbh

[mysteryartist-fr]

do I keep Liifa's plan as a Spiral, or change his plan to an Auraboa...?

(Auraboa don't get Runes, but I love Opal for his idea just as much!)

[aardcinder-dragons]

My first Sandsurge, Laythan, was also my first dragon to ever have on the front page! This is so cool, since I've (usually) make sure to comment when I spot a dragon on the front page, but I've never had a dragon on the front page. Even cooler, since it's my first Sandsurge.

[jacktherippy]

Some love for all of my bloodborn dergs

[crazydrawsblog]

Okay. I've decided that my clan is no longer dead, and the "Underworld" is just a nickname for a very deadly place that the clan lives at