#flawsgate

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answered April 16, 2020

Q: hey saw ur tweet and thought I’d explain some more abt the situation: so yesterday several big fanfic writers got “exposed” for essentially treating bts like fictional characters they can assign traits to whoever. obviously I don’t think harrasment is ever okay, but I’m asking you what you think about the “issue” beyond that? Bc tbh I’m really uncomfortable knowing some writers who I like and read a lot from might essentially view bts as their own little props to create stories with, instead of as real people who you happen to like and decide to write about

A: i have a few issues with this line of thinking, but first i just want to say that if rpf crosses a moral line for you, or anyone else, and you choose not to read it, that is a completely valid choice, but i also don't think that any of the arguments i'm about to make will be particularly interesting to you if that's the case!

with that out of the way, though, i've seen this take on rpf writers viewing bts as props/puppets/dolls before and don't think it's sound for a few reasons. first, this language ("prop," "puppet," other inanimate objects) implies that rpf is essentially a dehumanizing practice, that it flattens people and discourages empathy, when in my opinion fanfiction is a *deeply* humanizing practice. as i've said before here, bts the real human people do not show us all of themselves, nor should they. we view them through the filter of media and editing and a million other things, and at the end of the day we do not know them personally. we know the parts of themselves that they choose to show us! i believe that the parts they show us are genuine and sincere expressions of themselves, but it is still only a part of themselves.

fanfiction involves looking at the parts of themselves that they choose to share with us (gathered from their behavior on camera, how they talk abt themselves and each other, etc) and imagining what the whole person might be like based on that information. how might they choose to act in this or that scenario? what abt if we change this or that thing about their past? etc. i personally think such a practice is inherently humanizing, since it requires us to empathize with bts, meaning we must be deeply considerate of what their feelings might be in a fictional scenario. however, empathy with ANY person, even people we know in real life, always involves some measure of projection, since you are putting *yourself* in that person's shoes, meaning you must *imagine* their perspective to some extent. yes, it means that rpf writers make up details about bts in order to write their stories, but this MUST happen in order for rpf to exist, since we do NOT have primary source data from bts as to what exactly that would do in every scenario if they, say switched bodies with each other, or met each other for the first time as their current ages, or were in the mafia, etc etc! fiction involves making things up, and that always means that you are getting away from the Real Person and moving more toward a *version* of this real person, hopefully constructed from a place of love and respect.

secondly, i would also argue that keeping in mind that rpf depicts a fictional version of the real person, and maintaining the distinction between the real people and the characters in rpf, is essential for rpf to remain ethical. if i did not separate the versions of bts in my fics from bts in real life then people could reasonably assume that i think hoseok and jungkook had sex in real life in 2016 when hoseok dressed in drag for house of ARMY, which i absolutely do not think happened! the fictional versions of hoseok and jungkook did that in a story i wrote! the versions of hoseok and jungkook i wrote about are based on the real people, certainly, because i love the real people and they are the impetus for my wanting to write about them! but there are many details about them in that story that they have not shared with me, and that i had to imagine in order to make them feel like real people with layers and inner lives who are reacting naturally in that scenario.

lastly, as far as this specific situation is concerned, as i understand it the author in question was talking about bts's worst qualities not out of any desire to smear them, but rather out of curiosity to see if their perception lined up with that of their friends. i think they were giving genuine opinions, since nowhere did i see anyone say that they were just assigning traits at random! maybe you, or someone else, might disagree with those opinions (i have no comment one way or the other), but i think that's why they were having the conversation in the first place! to see if people who followed them agreed with them or not.

the way i see this is that, at the end of the day, every single real person has flaws. every single one of us. i could tell you right now, with no hesitation, 5 of my boyfriend's worst qualities, and this is a person who i've been dating for nearly 10 years and whom i love SO MUCH that i sometimes cannot believe he is real. but he has flaws, because he's a real person. and i don't see anything inherently wrong in recognizing his flaws, or any person's flaws. especially if we come at it from a place of love (and honestly, if we're obsessed enough with bts to write TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WORDS of fiction and spend hours of our lives watching their content, etc., etc., i think it's safe to say that we are coming from a place of love!) i think recognizing and loving someone's flaws is SO important to loving them, because it means we won't be unfair to them by expecting them to behave perfectly. it means we'll forgive them. so for characters in stories to feel real, and human, and relatable, they must have flaws.

i think that absolutely, some of the things that were said, when taken out of context, could seem mean or less than tactful, but i would guess that the author's acct was locked during these conversations PRECISELY because they knew that what they were going to say might seem that way, and wanted to have a conversation with people who already followed them, were familiar with their tone, and were therefore more likely to interpret their meaning generously. sometimes when we're joking around, as human beings, we can come off a little tactless. who among us HASN'T called their best friend an asshole or a dickhead before??? because i certainly have! i think the fact that their tweets were screenshotted while they were locked and then spread around is mean and hurtful in the first place, and then for them to get so much vitriol because of it makes me feel REALLY sad.

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answered April 16, 2020

Q: Another anon btw but i Just read your post and whereas i can agree with some parts of it, I feel like the analyses on their personalities are not seen as bad as they were. Maybe some of them are true or not that’s not my problem. My problem is, if you’ve read their tweets i think it’s clear that they’re not just projecting themselves but also belittling bts? If you get what i mean. Yes one account that started all of this was locked but the others weren’t (they were basically saying the same thing) (idk how the locked tweets were even spread and i’m sorry for them. But imo even if it was private i dont think it’s okay to say all of that). I feel like many other content creators are not seeing how belittling the things they said can be just because it’s coming from someone who writes fiction. I strongly believe that people shouldn’t have dogpiled on them as that takes away from the issue at hand. What i do wanna say is (finally) that i think saying that “yoongi’s letter from 2016 when he couldnt perfom was just a bit too much and too emotional” etc, calling namjoon pretentious for whatever reason, or assigning certain “flawed” traits to jungkook because of his hand tattoos isn’t something that should be ignored. I dont want you to misunderstand thinking i’m attacking you or your opinion or something. So dont get me wrong. I’m just really confused how it seems “not wrong” to some. And last, yes, you can dislike his tattoos, emotions?, way of talking, but putting all of those tweets together isn’t something morally correct imo. That was all. I hope you can maybe reply to this without thinking bad of my intentions. :) (in response to)

A: i can understand how some people might have felt hurt over the things that were said or the way that they were expressed, and like i said in a previous answer, i do see how it could have come off tactless. personally, i don't have any input one way or the other on the actual opinions that were expressed because 1. i wasn't part of the conversation and i think context matters, and that gets lost in screenshots, and 2. i just don't think whether i agreed with those opinions or not is important to how i feel about the situation. i think that a lot of the people who were replying to one another were friends, and sometimes when we're talking to our friends we can get comfortable and phrase things in a less than tactful way, bc we know our friends understand our tone and know our opinions on things and will interpret us charitably. i honestly cannot tell you how many times my friends and i have jokingly called our biases "twisted monsters" etc in private conversations bc we are being lighthearted and we know that both parties understand our real feelings and we love to be a little melodramatic here on stan twt.

i can't say whether this was what was happening in those conversations, because i don't know the people involved, but i'm saying that i can absolutely see how if some of my own conversations were to be taken out of context, people might think that i was being incredibly mean when that was not my intention at all. i also think that people discussing what they view as bts's flaws (which, they do have flaws, they are human beings) doesn't necessarily mean that those flaws are the ONLY thing they see in them, or that they don't love or appreciate them. perhaps some things were worded unwisely, but honestly if i had seen any of those tweets and disagreed with them, i just would've said "well, this person and i are not on the same page re: this member" and unfollowed! and that would be it. and i think that's where this should have ended, personally.

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answered October 2, 2020

Q: god these people really wanna be bts’s bodyguards... life would be much better if they just blocked and moved on... anyways ur fantastic and i love hearing ur thoughts

A: thank you!! this is v sweet of you! tbh i'd be fine with all the stuff they're projecting onto me and pretending i did and said if they just admitted they're basically writing fanfic abt me! interesting considering the initial thing they're mad over is people "mis-characterizing" bts when talking abt writing them as characters in fic!

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answered October 2, 2020

Q: To think you'd go out of your way to still defend someone who had so many vile things to say about a real actual person (and I know you guys love to solely call them "millionaires" and completely invalidate their humanity so that you can keep on insulting their integrity and toying with the persona you've self-projected into them to build your silly little fanfiction plots without feeling guilty about it) says a lot about your character. I vehemently despise every single person in that pathetic little incel-like clique of yours.

A: i really don't appreciate you putting anyone else's words into my mouth! it's very easy to see that i've actually only called them millionaires 3 times on my account? and never when defending anyone from harassment? it takes two seconds to search for it see: https://twitter.com/search?q=millionaires%20from%3Aclarz&src=typed_query i am more than willing to defend things i've said, but frankly i don't speak for anyone else! everyone's a grown-up and they're responsible for their own words and i'm responsible for mine and none of what you've accused me of involves my own words.

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answered October 2, 2020

Q: I think your little clique of condescending self-pitying ao3 writers (wonhaemoni, meatball, pregnantkoo, shookyfan, pornographicpenguin, sugar lizard, melloroll and other despicable human beings I probably forgot the @ of) should've been ran off this app when the whole roebling scandal blew up. The heat you got was entirely deserved and seeing how you guys keep on acting up to this day, it probably wasn't enough.

A: the funny part of this message is that at least one of these people has had me blocked for a long time, and half of the rest i have literally never spoken to and we do not follow each other! do your research before you come at me trying to demonize me for [????? it's unclear?? how have i, personally, me, clarz on twitter, not someone i know but ME, "acted up" recently? could i have receipts??] bc it's very easy to see who i follow! i don't know roebling either! i just thought they and everyone involved didn't deserve the kind of hate they got and i'm sorry that stance rubbed you the wrong way! i hope you have a really good day!

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answered April 16, 2020

Q: i think u made point in the latter half that i agree with but the first half doesnt adress the actual dehumanization that CAN go on between authors of rpf and HAS happened, it dismisses addressing what was the actual problem. ‬the problem isnt that /all/ rpf writers see them as props/stereotype, its that there are some that DO and it is harmful when they do so, but then vehemently refuse to understand why talking/discussing/thinking of bts like that is so dehumanizing and worrying from someone claiming to be a “fan”. (in response to)

A: could you to explain how you know when an rpf writer sees them as a prop/stereotype and when they don't? as far as i know none of the authors involved outright said "bts are not real people, they are just props for my stories," so honestly when you say that some people view them as stereotypes, what i *hear* is that you don't like or agree with the way that they characterize or interpret them, or maybe you were even offended by their interpretation. this, on its own, is fine! i certainly have read MANY fanfics where i don't think bts are recognizable as themselves, or where they don't behave in the ways that i, personally, think they would, but the way that i view them and the way that each one of us views them are different! we can all get different conceptions of their character from the same media because we interpret it differently or choose to focus on different things, and to take my disagreement with how someone viewed the media we were given and then make the logical leap to "i disagree with your conception of this member and THEREFORE you are DEHUMANIZING THEM" seems extremely severe to me. if i don't like someone's characterization of a member, i don't read their fic and i don't follow them. there is no "right" way to view bts in fic, because our conceptions of the members in fic, as i said, are fictional. these conceptions are RELATED to the real members, but they are not supposed to be perfectly faithfully accurate models of them, because that is not possible and also honestly wouldn't be respectful of their privacy or autonomy as real individuals, imo.

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answered April 17, 2020

Q: I think you’re misunderstanding or/and im not explaining myself right. As ive said before, Im not saying they dont have any flaws. And im also not saying that writers should not write and/or use their flaws. And i’m not really trying to come to an agreement or anything so it’s okay because we both have different opinions. What i’m trying to make you.. see? Think about? Is that their criticism was not morally correct as analyses like theirs were not necessary to write a fic. Im not saying no analysis is good. Of course if you write a story where you try to stay true to the person, you have to know their mannerism etc. so saying jungkook’s hand tattoos shows his “flawed personality” aka impulsive, bad taste???, and what not is not just a “oh because i have to write a story” (imo). I feel like other content creators are making this something else than it was (maybe the people who sent death threats etc. were too) but i just want to let you know that, no, i think every logical person who did not like their tweet was not disliking it because they (also me) think bts dont have flaws and are perfect or writers shouldnt use their personalities. And i saw other tweets saying smth like “bts are something made from their company and it’s unhealthy to think otherwise” or something like that. And even though that might be true and they dont show us their real selves.... how can someone make assumptions/analyses about them then? I personally think we get a glimpse of their selves but that doesnt mean they are just tools to be sold by their company (if you get what i mean). Other than that being not right imo, calling namjoon pretentious isnt right either and i think you should not only look at this from one perspective but i think this is enough. I bet you’re tired of this too so i apologize!! And btw I dont want any misunderstandings between us even though we’re strangers. Have a good day! (in response to)

A: no, i'm pretty sure i'm understanding you and have BEEN understanding you and that we just disagree and at this point we are all just repeating ourselves. i also don't appreciate your implying that i haven't been thinking about or trying to understand your point of view or that i am "only looking at this from one perspective" when all i did yesterday was try to thoughtfully respond to people's points in a patient and respectful way. i am WORKING HARD here to give thoughtful consideration to people's points and to express myself in a way that is non-judgmental.

1. i never meant to imply that i thought their comments were necessary to write a story. they're not. i meant when i thought they were coming from a place where, when they discuss them, everyone understands they are discussing their CONCEPTION of the members rather than the actual real people bts are. 2. "(maybe the people who sent death threats etc. were too)" maybe???????????? ok 3. as to people saying they "are something from their company" etc, i keep getting anons in my cc asking me to justify all of the other rhetoric that's come from people who are not me but who presumably share my "hey don't do a death threat, that's not cool" position, and i cannot and will not do that! i did not say those things and so i can't speak to them. 4. what is "morally incorrect" abt criticism beyond the fact that you disagree with it/you thought it was mean? ppl are so quick to get up in arms about "morality" but no one has told me how their criticism was inherently unethical other than that a) you thought it was mean or b) they don't know bts personally (if this were a good definition of moral behavior it would mean criticism of any public figure, even privately, is always immoral, which just seems BANANAS to me.) if by "morally" correct you mean OBJECTIVELY correct, i.e. "you can't say jungkook is impulsive because he's not impulsive and so you are lying when you say that" (for example), then that's not actually a moral statement, that's you saying that your opinion of who jungkook is as a person differs from op's. in which case... you disagree with a person on the internet. we all experience this every day.

what i'm upset about here is NOT the fact that people disagree with what was said. i'm upset that it was blown up to the point where these people are getting attacked and told they're morally reprehensible, being sent images of corpses in dms, etc. etc! and i'm trying to give ppl some perspective on why i don't think the things that they said were deserving of that! tbh i don't even understand why everyone feels a need to weigh in on it publicly! sometimes ppl say things i disagree with or that i think are mean! and i decide "hey, maybe i don't like or agree with that person" and i move on!

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answered April 16, 2020

Q: If you don’t want to talk about this anymore it’s okay but i feel like it’s not what some people think. Like you’ve said, yes they have flaws and yes of course you can talk amongst your friends how maybe this member is this or that. And imo these screenshots were not something that could be misunderstood. You might not agree with that. But i think you should maybe skim over the tweets that were not from the private account to understand me better. And if you really think that “no i bet those screenshots are just taken out context”, then i just want to say that while the whole discourse was happening, they and their friends were saying that yes, the things in those tweets are okay and exactly what they meant. And that’s it’s okay because they are writers and they have to do these things. I’m also not saying that they only see them as their puppets or dont see anything other than their flaws, however, tweeting such big statements and still thinking it’s okay to analyze them and their “flaws” was not asked for nor was it morally correct. When i first saw the screenshots i just replied to the screenshots and then muted the people in said screenshots. But some people are not like that. And i’m sad that because some people jump on people because of the jumping itself and that the issues are not thoroughly discussed. Oh and if you don’t want to waste time or just dont want to look into the screenshots, what i said about very little of the tweets might give you an opinion other than “maybe they were just joking” or “yes everyone has flaws”. Thank you :). (in response to)

A: i've seen the screenshots at this point, bc i want to be semi-informed, and i still stand by what i said earlier. this is a scenario where we disagree and that's fine! i don't personally think that pointing out someone's flaws is inherently morally incorrect, especially when you are understood to be coming from a place of love for that person (like we are in fandom, where we love the people we are fans of, sometimes to an extreme degree!) and especially when you are not directing those criticisms AT the person. i also think if writers didn't think about the flaws of the people who serve as inspiration for their stories, then the people in those stories also wouldn't have flaws and again i, personally, think that flaws make characters feel more real and satisfying to read. i think bts has flaws! i think we all do! i think all of our flaws make us lovable people. i understand how people might disagree with their assessments and might think that those AREN'T bts's flaws (and again i am taking no stance one way or the other), or how they might take issue with the tone used, and that's fine! sometimes we disagree! but i still do not see how anyone can make the leap from "i disagree with this person's criticism of another person" to "it is morally wrong of that person to make that criticism."

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answered April 17, 2020

Q: really good answer....my only grievances is when it doesn’t seem to come from a place of love and respect though? like the people who always seem super eager to assign bts negative traits as a blanket statement about their characters (not making clear that it is their own view of them) and then get upset when people tell them not to speak abt real people that way....it’s one thing to have bts have a certain trait in a story, because then it is encapsulated in a clearly fictional setting, it’s another thing entirely to call someone who always tries their best to be honest and share his interests with us “pretentious” in a dismissive fashion. Idk u seem really sweet but I think you don’t necessarily need to love/stan people to write abt them, I’ve had ex moots who got completely uninterested in bangtan but kept writing fic about them bc 1 they had already established their versions of the boys personalities and 2 their new fandom wasn’t giving them enough attention for their taste. What I’m really looking for is for some writers to be more clear they are talking about THEIR perception of bangtan when assigning them negative traits, and not get so goddamn defensive when people tell them off about speaking in a way that’s to familiar abt people they don’t know (in response to)

A: i think there's a difference between "telling someone off" and multiple people telling them they deserve to be locked up or sending them pictures of dead bodies in dms, and when this kind of behavior turns into dogpiling then it all builds up into a HUGE amount of vitriol over a small thing. if you've seen writers seeming to get defensive over it here, i think it's because either they know the people involved and are upset that their friends are being told to kill themselves (understandable, maybe), or because they're terrified that they could be caught up in a similar kind of storm. when this kind of thing happens i frequently see people spin it into a "fic writers are assholes" sort of narrative, so on a personal level that kind of thing always really scares me, because i don't want all of my own fandom to hate me. i sympathize with you wanting people to be more clear about it being their own view of them, but i think this is a very difficult thing to do on twitter where you have a 240 character limit. certainly we can have a conversation about which kinds of topics of discussion are wise or unwise to have in a public setting on twitter (though this was not quite public since, as we've established, op was locked precisely bc they thought they might get backlash), but it seems crazy to me that some people phrased some things poorly in some tweets and got this level of backlash over it. i just think maybe people should try and view it a little more charitably before they go attacking people, especially if those people are already being attacked on all sides. i do agree with you though that you don't need to keep stanning people to write about them, i've also seen people exhibit this same kind of behavior 😂 it doesn't make much sense to me, so i always forget those people exist.

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answered April 17, 2020

Q: the person with the locked account in one of their replies on cc even said something along the lines of “i don’t agree with how some of these questions were worded and could’ve been written differently” and a lot of people are choosing to ignore that. i was a bit uncomfortable too at how they started all that and how some people took it too far in their cc but is it really a worldwide problem? even if i don’t agree with someone do i have to harass them in any way? the answer is no!! if you’re uncomfortable just unfollow and block it is way better than being this hurtful! (talking about how part of the fandom acted not about you, of course!) (in response to)

A: i absolutely 150% agree, i block people so frequently for saying things that make them come off like an asshole! it's fine! we can all move on

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answered April 17, 2020

Q: I think there are a lot of people who say something along the lines of 'dogpiling and threats/harassment is bad BUT' are coming from a genuine place clarz, you have acknowledged multiple times that the conversation without context could look bad and make people uncomfortable and that there were some valid criticisms inbetween the harassment! for those people I would love to offer an anecdote of an incident I witnessed: a few months ago a 16 year old girl, relatively new to social media reposted a video of an famous Instagram tattoo artist, comparing him to jeongguk not knowing that said tattoo artist had said before that these comparisons made him uncomfortable, I wanna empathize that she did not link or add him, she barely had any following so the likelihood of him seeing it was basically zero, it took about 30 minutes for hundreds of comments to pour in, telling her to delete the video and that the comparison was inappropriate most of the comments were very respectful and only told her why she should take the video down, however for her the situation was her posting soemthing with no I'll intention and suddenly being bombarded with notifications and demands, mixed in with a handful of insulting/mean tweets because of that she had a panic attack and cried herself to sleep what she did was 1) genuinely not done with any I'll intention 2) generally harmless, had only one or maybe even ten people commented and explained the situation that would have been fine and everyone would have been happy with the outcome; but because apparently every single person who saw her post decided to comment, most respectfully, the good intention of most of the people did not come through anymore, now please imagine if this happened on an even larger scale and if even 'just' a third of the comments were insults and death threats there is absolutely no sense in doing this apart from humiliating and hurting the person the commenters think did an offense, I think people need to understand that if you are being bombarded with comments,qrts etc it does not matter how respectful and well intentioned the majority of commenters are

A: this is such a good way of explaining the situation. everyone should read this. thank you for this, i feel like you just did so much work for me and i appreciate you 💖

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answered April 16, 2020

Q: regarding the situation, i think what threw most people off is the way they came around the subject. the wording was so quite off, how it wasn’t “things i noticed” or “this is real interesting how despite XXX the member is YYY” but “these guys’ worst character traits!”. though some of these takes were quite harsh (context matters though, op’s manner of speech just may be like that) and personal. like, there is a big difference between saying a person is a sore loser and saying they are so fake deep or getting the tattoo they got encapsulates so many of their flaws... it might be fine in the context of a certain fic, where you know the character inside and out bc you created them, but here it just sounds like speculation and a deeply personal opinion.. it just doesn't go well with the fact that they called it an analysis of that person’s character. thank you for articulating your opinion so well in your previous answers!! (i understand that you might want this conversation to be over, it’s ok if you don’t reply!)

A: i still understand why people might be upset, and i think it's fine to disagree with those takes, or even to think that they were worded so poorly that you wouldn't want to interact further with the people who said them! but i think the reasonable response to that would be to mute or block that person and then move on, so the kind of harassment they've all received feels WILD to me, which i know you know at this point, but, i feel like it bears repeating! like i said before, i do see how some of it could have come off as harsh, but i'm gonna say once again that context! matters! and we saw very little in those screenshots! also twitter character limits can mean that sometimes people's responses have to be condensed in a way that makes them read way more definitively than they normally would. it's very difficult to make "i think this member has a lot of good qualities and this is just a personal opinion but despite [insert good qualities here] i think [insert flaws here]" fit in a 240 character limit, and i think since people were talking with their friends they were assuming that the first part of that sentence would be taken for granted.

i also still think that they were calling it "character analysis" precisely because they weren't meaning necessarily to make statements on the real members as people, but more were meaning to talk about what they tend to view as their flaws when they're writing them as characters in fic. just because we keep in mind that a character in a fic has [x] flaw doesn't mean we're going to roast them for that flaw for 50k, but it does mean that the flaw may drive some of their behavior or result in conflict! of course i can't speak for any of the people involved, but the whole situation just doesn't seem that black and white to me, and i still can't condemn anything that was said without knowing the people involved and seeing the entire conversation, because i can envision a scenario in which these things could be taken out of context and seem like WAY more definitive and harsh statements than they might have come off otherwise! and i should point out again that op was locked specifically because they were afraid of that exact thing happening!

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answered April 16, 2020

Q: I saw your tweet about what you wanted to saw about today’s drama and I wanted to ask something bc I spent a lot of today being disappointed by some of my favorite writers,,, Do you not think there’s a middle ground to this? bc I while I see that things get taken too far and dogpiling is bad, but this discussion seems to have been reduced to “oh dogpiling is bad” while ignoring the reason it even started in the first place which is that a fic writer said something inherently problematic. can both not be condemned at the same time?

A: honestly, when one camp is "expressing an opinion on bts's personal qualities with which some people disagree" and the other camp is "sending death threats," no, i don't think there is much of a middle ground. the middle ground is if someone's take is bad enough, you decide that maybe you don't enjoy that person's content that much after all, you unfollow them, if it REALLY bothers you maybe you even mute or block them, and then you move on.

truthfully, i didn't follow the author whose opinions started this whole thing, and as i understand it they were locked at the time so i haven't seen any of those opinions (and would not want to, since i am not cool with sharing material from locked accounts publicly as a practice) and therefore i can't comment on whether i would have agreed or disagreed with them, and what's more, it doesn't matter to me! ultimately, i am NOT fully informed, or even really halfway informed, on the situation (like i said, i wasn't on my timeline at all today and have gotten only small bits of info secondhand), so i cannot give any kind of definitive opinion on what went down and on whether i think anyone said anything that was inherently problematic or not, beyond that death threats are unacceptable, harassment is unacceptable, and what happens on locked accounts should stay on locked accounts, since they're locked for a reason.

(the tweet of mine anon is referencing)

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answered April 15, 2020

Q: i say this with pain in my little anon heart but lock ur account and deactivate/hide ur cc for the next couple of days because people are being rabid and foaming at the mouth for Nothing :(

A: this is sweet of you, thank you for the warning! i haven't gotten caught up in this particular storm, i think bc i do not tweet enough to matter and also bc i wasn't on my timeline today and so didn't see or weigh in on any of the drama, but i am on the lookout and will certainly lock if anyone somehow finds their way over to me!