#fimbulvetr blues au

[digitalagepulao]

From what you said before and by how Atreus and Wukong act to Týr, does that mean they know he is fake Tyr and just Odin in disguise?

GOWR spoilers below

oh yeah, Wukong sees through him right away. no glamour or disguise can hide from his gaze, and that includes Tyr. couple that with how Loki behaves around him, and it's pretty easy math for the old monkey!

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About Hel.

1- Is Wukong in a way her Godfather?

2-besides him, does she have other uncles and aunts from the pantheons she visited?

3-Has Calliope meet her, if so, what is her relathionship with hel?

4-How did Hel fight off Kratos during helhein?

Wukong is her uncle, that's for sure xD i'm not 100% sure if chinese folk religion had smth like godparents, but as far as family goes, sworn brotherhood are seen as legit as actual blood relations. so if anything happened to Loki and Angrboda, Wukong would absolutely be one of the first to step in!

technically yes, but not entirely. i'm not versed enough in other cultures to know the details of it, but Hel has a few deities who she might consider uncles and aunts and cousins by bond.

Calliope has absolutely met her and cried like a baby when she held little toddler Hel in her arms TvT Calliope has no interest in children, she's got enough on her plate as it is and it's not in her fate, but she loves Hel with all she has. she'd kill for this little girl.

Hel, despite being a teen at the time GOWR happens, is incredibly powerful and she has been given control over the entirre domain by Odin. she can summon the entire might of Helheim's winds, spirits and curses upon any who tries her patience, and she's not afraid to do so if needed. Kratos is a strong guy, but i doubt he wants to face off with that kind of might if it can be avoided, and Hel definitely doesn't want to fight her own grandpa.

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thoughts for my Fimbulvetr Blues AU and Loki's (quite honestly stupidly powerful) skills

Loki could be argued to be a title rather than his actual name, in that he's an "entangler", using his tricks and magic to knot people in his schemes and lies. That comes up in many ways.

His learned skills with the fairy folk of the British Isles can bind others through spoken word, and he's quite skilled in sneaking implied terms and conditions on his promises and oaths;

That said he NEVER breaks his word, whatever he promises, you can be sure he'll see it done. and he makes no promises he can't feasibly keep;

He also learned quite a bit of shadow and darkness manipulation, and it's proven to be quite handy for spying and dodging enemies;

Not only that but coupling that with illusion magic, he can keep enemies distracted with doubles while he remains hidden in the shadows, puppeteering his clones to tire out his enemy or spare himself;

Once he understands the True Nature of Fate, he can predict other's actions and even "see" the lines of their being tangling with others, snaring themselves in their own inner narratives. Therefore, pushing and tugging at those "lines" becomes almost second nature for him;

He knows exactly which buttons to push and how to get others to go along with what he seeks, even if he must play the "villain" in another'' story;

As Loki, he knows the importance of establishing himself as an antagonist for others to play off of, or project into. it's a role he's grown quite comfortable sliding into, and he plays it very well;

He's also learned that pain, like all things good and bad, is fleeting and momentary. What truly matters is the play of the game, the end goal; if one must endure pain to get to it, then it's a small price to pay;

Knowing how to manipulate souls, Loki has also learned how to manipulate divine powers. Effectively, he can take away and give back the powers of gods and other magical beings. Being such a trump power, he keeps that skill hidden well, but when Ragnarok approaches he uses it to impair and remove a few pieces off the board without needing to kill them;

Possessing the Spartan Rage from his father and the deep connection with the untamed world from his Giant heritage, it manifests in a far more wicked and devastating form. The rage isn't his own, but borne from those around him; it's the vengeful drive of those who have been denied justice and closure, the inherent balancing of the scales in the presence of lack of equilibrium;

When consumed by that bile and rage, he's engulfed in flames and becomes a furious maelstrom of fire and blood-red thunder. Among the flames are flickers of everchanging bones of a man and a wolf, simmering eyes glaring and fangs like daggers;

Fenrir is a power like no other, and though one would expect him to lose all consciousness, he's in fact not only intelligent but cunning. Far from a mindless beast as he's accused of being;

Having no solid form, Fenrir can be of any size and shape, and even be in multiple places at once. A manifestation of drive and emotion. At times he may blow out a bit of smoke and fire when disgruntled or upset, and even summon his Rage flames and lightning for a quick power-up;

His control over Fenrir doesn't come from restraining it, but from letting it come and go as needed. Like all things, anger and hate are momentary, and if he steps into the role of being a manifestation of all those bitter emotions, he can later step out of it. He is not his emotions, but he can give vent to them;

Loki is unrepentant and free of guilt for his desire for vengeance. Odin did him wrong, and he will find closure for himself and his lost sons and those who suffered like he did. War is not pretty, but sometimes it is necessary, and unjust kings must fall.

[digitalagepulao]

oh man, i got a Whole AU about it xDD

i can definitely see them both being very good friends, and in my mind they are sworn brothers and have big grandpa/grandson energy. Wukong is very fond of children and youngsters, and i can see him enabling Atreus' most chaotic ideas and helping him get out of any trouble he might get into.

plus, Wukong's backstory is a pretty close mirror to Kratos' story, except he failed where Kratos succeeded, which is bound to lead to some very interesting conversations uwu

The God of Mischief and The Great Sage Equal to Heaven.

If there was a GOW game in chinese mytholgy, specially focusing in the Journey of the West storyline.

How do you guys think Atreus and Sun Wukong (Monkey King) would interact? Would their be pals? Frenemies? Write in the comments what you all think.

dont forget to repost so everyone can see.

[digitalagepulao]

Out of all the gods from the other lands, who did Wukong and Loki hated the most, like second to Odin who is in the first place of hated gods.

mmmm that's a complicated question shdbwhbdhd i'll answer but i need to put down a few caveats first

as deities, both Loki and Wukong don't have such strong emotions towards their fellow gods, mostly because when you live for so long, it's quite difficult to lock yourself into such a disparaging relationship. arguably Loki's own hatred for Odin came from the man's inability to change, and to walk all over any and everyone to get to his own goals.

deities with that kind of single-minded callous attitude are rare, and in fact very much GOW's own characterization of Odin. some scholars even postulate that Loki was a title not a name, and was even an aspect of Odin himself, as they share many traits in their attestations!

speaking for myself, i don't believe it is my place to point at any one deity from pantheons throughout the world and decide to put such characterization onto them. if i'm being honest, i'm not a personal fan of GOW characterizing Odin (and even Heimdall, for that matter) into such an unredeemable bastard, as i feel it kind of diminishes him as a deity, and painting "pantheon head" deities like Odin and Zeus is a common trope nowadays and i think writers could do better. smells of christian frustration projection to me.

and to further specify, Wukong as a figure from east asian folklore and pantheon, is tied to the concepts of reincarnation and loss and gain of merit. Deities may fall as demons as punishment, to then regain their status once the punishment is over, mortal beings may ascend as immortals and sages, etc. One's place in the pantheon is a fluid one rather than tied exclusively by birthright like in many western pantheons. Also, deities are expected not to fall trap of mortal emotions, given how those are subject to cause immense trouble. And Loki, well, he can't really afford to hold grudges given his very difficult position as an unlanded god and a aberration of time travel.

all this to say, Odin is in a veeery special place because he not only made Loki's and his family's life miserable, all the damage and hurt he caused festered in Loki because of his deep empathy, creating Fenris as a creature of vengence incarnate. however, if anyone came close to earning a badge of hatred from either of them, it would have to be Zeus and Athena. Athena for orchestrating Kratos' fall and manipulating him, and Zeus.... well, GOW Zeus isn't the most sympathetic guy out here. And Loki's foray in Greece when he first landed left quite a sour note on him. to say they didn't get along is, an understatement.

[digitalagepulao]

Since Loki told Wukong about his family, what does he think of Laufey the Just? And besides the things they did to Atreus family, what is the other reason Wukong hates the Aesirs so much? Especially Odin?

He thinks she sounds pretty neat! He can definitely see why Loki is the way he is, with a mother like her. He can definitely respect someone who fights for what they believe in, and doubly so when it's for the sake of people who can't fight for themselves. The strong must stand up for the weak!

Besides, Wukong is often a figure who speaks truth to power and challenges them in their ways, and has often been associated with commoners rising up against unjust nobles. So yeah, he can definitely respect and appreciate someone with the same bend.

As for the Aesir, he couldn't give a rat's ass for them ajhawjhbdjha it's a bit of a "not my pantheon, not my problem" mentality, but he doesn't appreciate a king who manipulates and abuses his own kin the way Odin does. He hates them mostly for the grief they gave Loki and his kin, for they are extremely dear to him, but besides that Wukong just has a general dislike for their bullshit. However, if Loki hadn't been involved in said bullshit, he wouldn't even bother coming that far afield to begin with.

[digitalagepulao]

What are the differences between the Wukong from Havoc in Midgard AU and the one from the original Myths? GoW is Very well know to have change a few things in Greek and Norse mythologies, so what are the ones of Monkey King in your au?

mmm overall, Wukong's story remains mostly the same! Most changes are during the Havoc in Heaven, where Loki helped him escape the Demon-Vanquishing Stand. he jumped right back into fighting Heaven however, skipping the Trigram Furnace at first.

Buddha pins him down on the Five Phases Mountain, but before he's sealed in Lao Tzi suggests trying to smolder the immortality out of him, so he's not only given molten copper and burning iron pellets, he's also effectively on fire the first 49 years of his arrest, instead of the original 49 days. (Heaven-Mortal Realm time dilation sucks, man)

also as Erland goes to burn the mountain, Loki and Angrboda rescue many of the demons and monkeys back in the cave, before warding the mountain and unleashing a dragon they had held hostage. In revenge, the dragon sank the mountain in a blizzard and a hailstorm, which beat back the fire but almost caused the mountain to crumble onto itself. Keeping the mountain in one piece burned most of Loki's cultivated power, and the wound Nezha gave him made him severely disabled for several years.

The venom he injected into Erlang Shen from his bite was enough to keep the lord in bed rest for a long time, but the risk of him using it to burn the god from the inside out kept Heaven from striking out against the beings in Huaguoshan. Later Loki negotiated a proper ceasefire once the stab wound on his side stopped bleeding constantly.

Overall, I kept it mostly the same because GOWverse tends to really villanize some major deities into proper antagonists that you'll feel no issue killing off gruesomely, and as a white non-Chinese person, I don't feel comfortable doing that xvx

[digitalagepulao]

Since you mentioned that Wukong would prank Brok and Sindri, what kind of prank would he pull with Kratos, Atreus, Freya, Mimir, Angrboda and Týr? And would Loki even help him pull out theses pranks?

hehhehee good question!!

With Atreus, it's all light-hearted pranks and a lot of enabling of his antics, maybe talking back to Kratos on the dinner table just to make the man squirm and Atreus choke on his food with barely held back snorts.

With Freya it's small little surprises and spooks to get her out of her own head. Maybe a little springing pepper fold or a burning bamboo slip to get her a small startle. Maybe he helps her on her little herbalist corner and keeps giving her the wrong ingredients to give a rise out of her.

With Angrboda it's less pranks and more rough housing xD they got a pretty similar dynamic with Loki, and they play fight often. Back in the day he'd plot with Hel about turning into the girl to prank her parents with a little scare or confusing them, but not anymore given that seeing Hela would hurt them more than be funny.

With Kratos, he keeps pushing his buttons and daring him to sparring or some friendly brawls. Kratos never rises to the antics but he never says know to putting some practice in, especially with an opponent that uses techniques he's not familiar with. He often turns into the Leviathan Axe to prank Kratos, or turns into a mouse to undo the laces of his boots.

With Mimir, they often exchange riddles and tongue-twisters. It's not often the Mind Monkey meets one of similar intellect, and mental games are as fun as practical ones! That said he does one time cut off his own head to "meet him on the same level" while his body chills out in the corner, and Mimir never got over it but in a good way.

Aaaand for Týr. The old god has mingled in the Western and Eastern Heavens before, and Wukong often teases him for all the formalities and etiquette he throws his way. He loves making the man wonder what will offend him and what won't on that front, just be a little menace.

Him and Loki team up a lot on some pranks, but often he does his own thing since Loki is a busy busy man. Sometimes he leaves a clone of his own to spend time with Wukong but it's not the same.

[digitalagepulao]

Did Wukong ever help Atreus erase his name from the book of life and death? Just like he did?

There was no need! Loki has a funky relationship with other pantheons' rules because, technically, he shouldn't exist. He's a wild card just by being around before his birth, and most pantheons don't keep track of people from beyond their reach.

However, due to Loki's involvement during some of FSYY's timeline, he was given an honorary title in Heaven despite not being in the Ledger of the Gods to be deified. In fact most of the heavenly deities know him by his given name of Lan Diao ("blue marten") due to his chosen disguise at the time.

All this to say that in Hell's ledgers, it's stated that he's not their jurisdiction, and if he dies then just send him back xD

[digitalagepulao]

What was the most embaressing thing Loki had to do for Wukong? And what was the most embaressing thing Wukong had to do for him?

maaan i've been saving this one for a Good Idea to strike but ah well TvT

for Loki, it was probably pretending to be his mount. it was for a prank, granted, but Wukong rly go overboard with the whole "it obeys me and only me, watch!" shtick. like dude, why you making me tapdance over coals for your guests to laugh, i'm gonna eat your head off--

as for Wukong, that's a hard one cus he's not easily embarrassed at the best of times xD the closest he got was when Loki explained the whole BiMaWen thing to the rest of the group, especially since Wukong and Sleipnir were getting along so well and it kind of put a sour note once the kid asked him if he saw him as "just a stupid horse" too.

[digitalagepulao]

In post Ragnarok, what will be the first thing Loki and his family do, now that they are free and Odin is gone? And how Wukong will react when he learns that Hel and Sleipnir are finally free?

Honestly, they just want to have their happily ever after. They did the journeying, they freed their fellow jotunn, they defeated Odin, now all they want is to sink roots somewhere nice and calm and just, be.

they likely make their home in Jotunheim, helping the giants rebuild on their spare time but focusing mostly on their own healing and happiness. Loki has complicated feelings about Kratos but, if he's staying to become a god worth praying to, then he'll help if he can.

as for Wukong, he'll definite have a happy cry about seeing his dear niece and meeting his youngest nephew. he knows its not over till the old man croaks, but small victories are still worthy of celebrating. and after his own journey is done, he definitely will visit them as a Buddha, and even present his fellow pilgrims to his brother's family.

[digitalagepulao]

Was there at least one thing that Wukong did not like in Atreus plan on defeating Odin? Like one thing only?

I mean i get it he wants to help Loki after what happened, but still, there must be one thing he did not agree with.

well, Wukong is known for some questionable ideas of his own, and he does trust Loki's foresight and planning on most things. him not heeding his warnings did get him trapped under Five Phases Mountain after all.

however, he wasn't exactly happy with the endangering of kids, even if it was just pretend. and the whole part about stealing divinities certainly rose his eyebrows. it's a very dangerous kind of magic, and it is stripping someone of their nature, what makes them Them.

even if Loki knows what's like to be at the receiving end of it, and even if Loki's plan is ultimately about saving Thor and his family from being caught in the middle of his revenge... it's still a Very Fucked Up way to go about it. it's a ruthless kind of mercy but more ruthless than mercy in his eyes.

his plan also involves leaning a lot on Hel and putting her on the radar of some very very angry deities. even though she's already deeply tied into all this thanks to Odin's meddling, she's still young and she shouldn't have to bear so much responsibility. war is for adults, not kids.

Loki also not so subtly passed an artifact to Hel for her to keep (which she had no right to since by oath it was for him to keepsake and nobody else), and it ended up roping Nezha into this mess as well. in truth the artifact was for an emergency in case a deity got too daring with her, and to keep Odin from using her as leverage against Loki.

but Loki never denied that breaking his oath would draw the attention of the vanguard general, and causing him to stick around until the artifact could be safely retrieved with minimal interference with foreign affairs. it was a cunning move for sure but, really twisted the other god's arm into being more involved than he should have and Wukong would have rather that Loki didn't do that.

at the end of the day, Wukong has a trickster streak but he's ultimately a very straight-forward and blunt individual. His plans are cunning but never as elaborate as all that, and he finds the absolure weave of Loki's vengence plan as Too Much. he understands what's going on and why, but he doesn't exactly like all the details of it. xvx

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I was looking thought Ao3 and found this

I reais It and dang It was good, can't wait to see more of this oneshots, not to mention the art.

oh yeah, it's mine! :D

so so glad you liked it!! i'll try and see if i can write down some more oneshot scenes and i'll post it on that collection <3

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How did each one the group( Freya, Mimir, Atreus, Brok, Sindri and Kratos) react to learn that Loki is Atreus from another timeline.

sorry for the delay, my brain was Not for the past few days ajdajwbh

Freya and Mimir were the most emotionally distraught about it. they knew Loki back in Asgard and they knew all the horrors he was put through, so realizing that the boy they've come to love and care for was that same man broke them a bit.

Brok and Sindri take it more in stride to be fair. They are mostly incredibly interested in the spacetime implications of it all, though Brok now understands how the bastard knew them so well before they even met back in Asgard. Sindri is more awkward about it, swinging between grieving for the kid he watched grow in that journey to Jotunheim, and that said kid went used his knowledge to trick them both more than once xvx

Atreus has a rage-fueled transformation when he finds out. Loki helps him ride it out and all but, he really doesn't like that that man he just watched "kill" Thor and steal the godhood of Thrúd, the man that wants revenge so much he will twist the entire world into knots to get it, is him. a different him yes, but still him! he's gonna need a few business days to process all of it, and even then his brain struggles to come to terms that he could one day turn out like Loki.

Aaaah Kratos. this poor man. he does Not take it well at all. he sees far too much of his younger self on Loki, and to learn that Loki is another Atreus, thoroughly wrecks him. he's solid as a rock as ever but, it's visible to anyone with eyes that he's broken up about this. Loki sympathizes with his pain, he knew it was coming and he didn't look forward to it, but he's resolute in his plans. he will get his revenge, no matter what Kratos thinks of it, and Kratos Hates That.

[digitalagepulao]

I saw one of you post about you gow AU, Since Nezha has no other choice but to help Loki, so he can retrieve the artifact that Loki stole and give to Hel. What does he think of Kratos, Freya, Mimir and Atreus? And what is he's relathionship with the group? And what does he exactly do when Ragnarok happens?

honestly, he tries to stay as removed from the group as he can. he has orders to interfere as little as possible on his mission, so mostly he just hangs around at Loki's house, meditating or training. if he's approached he won't send people away but he almost never initiates interactions.

overall he has no "opinions" exactly, these are gods from a different land and they do things differently here, it's not up to him to judge how they conduct themselves. however watching them explains a lot of weird things that Loki did and conceived of, and it gives him some clarity about some hangups he had about the guy in the past. not that he's one for grudges much (save a few but ssshhh)

THAT SAID, Mimir seems an interesting fellow and he makes for good conversation. he seems interested in learning about him and his culture, and he appreciates the head's open mind. Freya is a loving mother, and he can definitely respect a warrior of her might; he sort of wishes his own mother had been as strong as her but alas. Atreus is a child trying to find his place in the world, and it's not smth Nezha can relate to; he's always known his destiny and what awaited him, and he never balked before it. he can't even relate to Atreus' conflict about his fate involving his father's death, but he can respect the boy's filial piety.

and Kratos... as a guy who also wanted (and still does) to kill his father, he really can't relate to his conflicted feelings about it. this seems to be the way of this land, so why flinch before it? these human feelings have no place in his world as they only bring problems, after all. but once he realizes that their fate is fluid and changeable, that puts his mind into conflict as well. he hopes he can finish his quest and get the hell out of there before he changes his own fate on accident and well... that's a can of worms he will NOT deal with at all :'))