#feanor vs gothmog

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@dreamingthroughthenoise

Upon the confines of Dor Daedeloth, the land of Morgoth, Fëanor was surrounded by Balrogs. Long he fought on, and undismayed, though he was wrapped in fire and wounded with many wounds; but at the last he was smitten to the ground by Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs.

[polutrope]

Would you ever write another Dagor Dagorath or Arda Remade fic (I'm thinking of your Fëanor & Manwë one)? — @emyn-arnens

Oooh yes, I think I would! I don't think I'd write anything long set during this mythical period (too open-ended for my fic writing proclivities!) but it's a great context to explore things like a reckoning between Feanor and Manwe, or whatever that was I wrote. Feanor's role in the Dagor Dagorath is still the thing that compels me most about it.

I admit I'm a sucker for the idea of Maedhros killing Gothmog in the Dagor Dagorath. He deserves to kill that Balrog, and not just for Russingon reasons. Gothmog got his father first. Also, like maybe dying in fire makes him fire retardant or something? Haha.

I really thought this art by Tolrone was Maedhros fighting Gothmog because that's what I thought I got the idea, but when I looked it up just now I realised it's not specified. Anyway, incredible art.

Well, I'm not going to write that. But yes, I could see myself writing more Dagor Dagorath & Arda Remade snippets to explore themes and messages ... or write crack.

ACTUALLY how could I forget about my crack crossover idea where the House of Finwe is forced to put on a production of Lysistrata as part of the "Second Music" if they want to be part of Arda Remade??

Thanks for the ask @emyn-arnens!

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Feanor vs Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs by Bob Greyvenstein Source: https://ift.tt/333EDUv

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Feanor vs Gothmog - Detail by bobgreyvenstein

https://www.deviantart.com/bobgreyvenstein/art/Feanor-vs-Gothmog-Detail-438635815

[redbean-nom]

assuming both of them are just dropped into fight mode (so feanor doesn't have time to invent guns 10000 years early) within reasonable distance of each other - i'd say this depends on the specifics of the combatants. is it Random CT vs Random Sinda? Generic Trooper vs Generic Noldo Soldier? Cody vs Ecthelion? A-17 vs Maedhros?

the thing is, the average noldorin soldier is essentially a somewhat sturdier 13th-14th century knight and is generally very vulnerable to blaster fire. but then the power curve gets insanely steep once you hit the transition point in Background Extra -> Unnamed but Mentioned -> Named And Titled. so in short, in a battle between a Generic Background trooper vs Background Extra noldo, the guy with the plasma bolts probably wins. in a battle between a clone and a Named Elf, the elf in question has probably killed 20000 orcs and a share of balrogs and does not really care how heavily armed this random guy is.

average CT (phase 1 armor, dc-15) vs. average noldorin soldier (iron helm, hauberk, spear, sword, shield):

the clone wins. standard blasters should be able to get through durasteel-equivalent armor, since they can punch through entire droids. from there it's a simple matter of staying out of spearing range while shooting.

cody (phase 2 armor, dc-15) vs ecthelion (noldorin steel/mithril plate armor, spiked helm, shield, orcrist, silver flute):

definitely ecthelion. the range is less of a factor here since cody is decidedly more melee-inclined than the average clone, and additionally ecthelion's armor is essentially full beskar plate with a bonus shield, so not much that blasters can do there. cody's main non-blaster attacks are Knife and Kick, which is easily countered by ecthelion's Sword, Helmet Stab, and Grapple Kick. the main issue here is if cody happens to have detonators on hand; however, even gothmog couldn't do enough fire damage to stop ecthelion, and on top of that ecthelion can move/dodge a great deal faster than the droids the detonators were designed for. cody is getting stabbed, sorry.

17 (alpha arc armor, giant blaster, post-ventress but pre-grievous) vs Mae (noldorin steel/mithril plate armor, sword, post-thangorodrim pre-nirnaeth):

they whack each other to the point where any reasonable person should have been thoroughly dead an hour ago and decide to call it off because honestly i don't think either of these guys can be killed by anything but their own bad decisions.

Bonus round! Jango (beskar alloy armor, westar-34 x2, jetpack, jetpack rocket, flamethrower, a hundred different mini rockets, way too many belt pouches) vs Feanor (noldorin steel/mithril armor, sword, shield, anger)

they both die. sure, feanor has better armor but he is prone to making absolutely horrible decisions than get him nearly-to-entirely killed. he also cannot fly and is not immune to Jetpack Rocket. however, he does possess the unique ability to completely ignore the fact that by all rights, he should be dead immediately after getting whackamoled by every balrog in existence. most likely scenario here is jango flies up and gets feanor to the point where he should definitely be dead via blasters and rockets. feanor in turn does not realize this and manages to defy every law of life, death, and physics in order to decapitate jango. he then finally notices that he Should Be Dead and promptly bursts into flames with a dramatic speech.

Do you think a clone (star wars) could defeat a first age elf (silm)? Me and my girlfriend have an argument about that right now....

Well... the clone has a gun...

As far as I know the silm elves are not immune to blaster fire XD. Even though Feanaro might be able to develop armor with is and then the clone would be in trouble. Hm...

@redbean-nom as the expert, what do you think?

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gothmog vs feanor by issachar17