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These old ass charts I made b4 I had all the translated novels and could thus finish still actually work pretty well
They aren’t perfect but are a good line to consider what I speak on. (obviously I’d move some of these things around even for things I had read at the time)
Musubi simultaneously sets plot points but can’t be adapted before specific plots unless the adapting parties wish to push specific advertising or bottle concepts (which first season of oms is trying to do with it being a yuri centric season)
Zenka mermaid shouldn’t be adapted before Karen ogre, and if one wanted to use it as an ending stake of a point it shouldn’t go before bonehead either. But if they wanted to split musubi across the second season for no reason I could see it ending up being adapted before at least one of those arcs solely because of the fact it would likely get adapted early for the sake of making it so they could adapt the other successive arcs (also for the whiplash of araragi thinking he’s free from Gaen and very soon in the successive season he laments that he couldn’t actually escape her and just feels like bc of who he is he was bound to crawl back to her and become a fed)
Nozomi golem is an interesting one as it’s set fate for Ougi Disappointed many but also the other major allusion they use is “how is Nadeko doing in the future?”. But because it doesn’t set the Nadeko plots and doesn’t make conclusion it doesn’t have any hard restrictions I’d put on its adaptation. It just can’t be first and can’t be last, and since it works better before mitome wolf bc that has hard conclusions and has more required arcs I’d put on it. I wouldn’t even say suruga bonehead leads to it yet because that is going towards a plot that can as of writing be currently comprehended. I guess it makes sense before ougimono but like, not bc their individual stories intersect but because of the nature of both arcs simply existing and alluding to others.
Mitome wolf likely shouldn’t be adapted before tsubasa sleeping. Tsubasa sleeping sets itself as a path towards the state of tsubasa in Mitome wolf
Tsuzura human shouldn’t be adapted before sodachi fiasco because it’s unfathomably cruel to do so. To reap the rewards of sodachi’s development without seeing her shine in her arc (which is one of the best) is wrong in a way that hurts me. Otherwise if I’m to state the obvious it should not be adapted before the rest of musubi.
Musubi is an end point but is written before monster season so it fundamentally can weave between it however it wishes. But if they wanted to shorten it at all for the sake of compartmentalization I think that it would work fine next to the shinomonos if they wanted to keep it all in order or if they wanted to pull an ova on the side. Its pretty much fine however you dice it
My greatest fear is if for the second half of oms they shorten it just to put the shinomonos in there and carry over the successive marketing. Cutting arcs in ways that make everyone mad just because they made a promise to adapt it all and said they’re doing 2 seasons.
Karen ogre works better before amari and Zenka mermaid. This is because Karen ogre is an arc that builds on Karen’s character development and showing the reward before the arc is gonna throw off the enjoyment of said reward (like how sodachi fiasco rewards the sodachi in Nademonogatari and her later appearances)
Tsubasa sleeping works better before shinomono 1 and Mitome wolf, despite its vampire focus I think that it’s something that is fine to adapt after shinobumonogatari solely if you are operating on a belief they should try and subtly build to shinomono 1 by progressively mentioning more and more things about vampires.
Sodachi fiasco worked better before Nademonogatari but that bride is crossed so before ougimonogatari and tsuzura human.
Suruga bonehead is in a weird position but I’d say it works best before ougimonogatari and before Zenka mermaid.
Im simply listing the arcs left because while I did have theories for if they did simultaneous adaptation (some of which are partially right in the sense that Nadeko draw and Shinobu mastered pull towards shinomo and are similar rungs that benefit from an off season novel’s contents that draw too it.) they don’t matter speculation wise currently.
I don’t see them changing the order of the rest of the monster season arcs though, because of how they’re written it doesn’t make sense to do so, they even hold and binding glue called the Nadeko parts. If you take the Nadeko parts off it will make other side allusions made in the main story make less sense, this also happens if you change their order. Moving Amari before yoi doesn’t work bc of the nadehomelessness incident being mentioned and in ougimonogatari they mention that Nadeko has left the house already. There’s more to go on about but to keep it brief these are stories that don’t benefit from changing around the order on first view. (like watching kizu and tsubasa family next to each other before tsubasa tiger)
Pretty much if you consider all this info and the work load required to make it, you just assume they’ll adapt the arcs before shinomono with the extra arcs left sprinkled around to hype towards it, with musubi considered more optionally if they want to increase workload that bad (shaft moment). Either their promise of two seasons is true (and some arcs are cut out for finality, or they delay a lot) or their promise of 2 seasons collapses and it becomes more than that (depends on the delays they may experience and if they pull a magireco).
The two seasons thing could also be a false memory, but the rest still stands
I’m pretty convinced the way they’re gonna break up the episodes for next season is that they’re gonna sprinkle the rest of the waza episodes around for the sake of keeping up the feeling of an ongoing narrative abt Shinobu and deathtopia via consistant character appearance to have the feeling of buildup maintained. In the sense that yoimono has decent amount of Shinobu appearance but Amari and ougimono have less and if they wanted to engage in the flow of Shinobu posting to be constant for the build to shinomono in the way Nadeko’s appearances would be, they’d probably put them around there for the sake of hype.
However that is subject to change depending on how they do musubi which I can see them do a direct run through, sprinkling it next shinomono, putting individual episodes next to the 3 arcs b4 shinomono specifically to max them out for the vibe (most evil option) or doing an ova.
I think that for the rest of oraka putting sodachi fiasco as an opener to the next season and putting suruga bonehead some point after but before ougimono (I’d say that between yoi and Amari is likely bc of digestion time but also the fact we don’t have that second resolution and if you put it directly next to ougimono its gonna feel like they’re hyping towards a plot that isn’t actually gonna be resolved soon but doing that is nisio core so I’d accept it. But realistically because of the overarching Gaen izuko subplot that comes to a head by shinomono it makes sense to perform that same build up as a parallel. Really I think the best time to look at those arcs is in novel order but we can’t do that now, big signs that say look at Gaen plot will probably be successionally happening bc of this. So I think getting it in early has its merits esp if they’re going with buildup)
#naderamblings#posts made for me because I love rambling#monogatari spoilers#I could update the charts if someone wanted me to however I don’t expect someone else to urge me to#I love experimental watch order posting but I can only do it for non linear narratives and poorly written stories#experimental watch order posting with a badly written story is just making a recut#concepts of narrative order when you mess with it can be interesting especially if you consider concepts of things like arc digestion time#(the time it takes to process an arc and the effects of it#or the time between revelations#essentially the space between stories that make it so that consuming them is cohesive and not rushed by allowing things to settle and have#down time something not afforded to many series bc people are too scared of the concept of filler)#digestion time thematic cohesion and order of events are the things that make a piece of media reorderable#which is why a non linear narrative innately jives with order changes#and poorly written media can benifit from it because it can make some things like exposition entirely visual to create intrigue#but that’s just an occasional hobby I lock in to do
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