#even donate to them agaon or if theyre all fucking dead

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It's not fucking zionist to follow the news you fucking idiots. I cannot take this shit anymore. Jesus fucking christ. I am obviously not talking to Palestinians in the first post I am talking to moronic tumblr bloggers like you who wear it as a badge of honor that you don't read the news and accuse anyone who takes an issue actually seriously of using "zionist dog whistles." And try to then find reasons to tell people that if you DO think beyond a slogan, you're One Of The Enemy, actually.

I'm literally on the train home from a free Palestine rally, I'm not a fucking Zionist! What is wrong with you fucking people! Stop throwing words around until they mean literally nothing! I made a post informing you guys that they are discussing the possibility that Israel did in fact bomb that hospital in the NY Times and now that's zionism?? You people are so fucking proud of being ignorant it is disgusting. Taking this shit seriously isn't Zionism you fucking asshole, you are just too proud of treating it like a sports match to care.

Like literally can you even read?? My point in that second post was that if ANY of you actually opened the news, you would realize that they ARE reporting on the possibility that Israel bombed that hospital. But clearly at this point you guys aren't even capable of reading tumblr posts, so I really don't know what I fucking expected!!

I think people need to understand that when someone says the situation in Israel/Palestine is complicated they are not necessarily saying that the discussion of who the oppressor vs oppressed is complicated. The Israeli government has been oppressing the Palestinians for a very long time, that is clear, and it is not complicated to understand that at least since the 80s they have had dramatically more financial and military power to keep control of the territory in the way they like.

However, it is reductive and dismissive to insist that there is no complexity in the potential ways to move forward to bring peace to the region. Despite what people on tumblr.edu like to believe, "Israel should never have been created" is not a practical solution to an incredibly heated geopolitical situation in the present day. Israel was created and it does exist. 10 million people live there. 74% of the population is native born and the country has existed for 75 years. Hand waving these fact away with the opinion that "they should move back to where they came from" may make you feel good about being a Radical Leftist, but it does not give anyone a road map for how exactly millions of people without dual citizenship are supposed to just up and evaporate. Nor does it acknowledge the reality that 21% of Israelis are Arabs, the very people you are claiming to want to give the land back to.

Insisting that there's nothing complicated about expecting an entire country's population to willingly dissappear with no consequences is not a productive way to think about this conflict. It ignores the many massive superpowers that have an interest in proping up different states in the region, the power dynamics involved in any land back movements, and the inevitably negative consequences of totally dissolving an established state without a plan. It is also completely and almost comically unrealistic, so much so that it makes it hard to believe that anyone who's opinion starts and ends with this idea really gives a shit about anyone who lives in the area as much as they care about their online leftist clout.

There's nothing complicated in understanding that the Israeli government is and has been maintaining an oppressive apartheid state for decades. It is, however, very complicated to come up with a realistic way to resolve some of the most intricately entangled land disputes on the planet without plunging the region into total chaos. Not everyone has to be deeply educated on every geopolitical situation, but it is very hard to take people seriously when they know nothing about the politics or history of a region and yet insist that there is nothing complicated about it at all.

There's a lot of people on this website who are getting dangerously smug about their own ignorance, and are starting to go down Qanon type anti-intellectual paths in the name of being sufficiently radical. Not knowing the details of a very convoluted land dispute isn't something to brag about online as you call for intentionally reductive solutions. You can support the Palestinian cause and be aware of the oppression they have faced while also holding off on calling people trying to do real analysis and de-escalation work bootlickers. We need to get control of the urge to fit every global issue into a simplistic YA novel narrative structure that appeals to Western revolutionary fantasies.