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#especially when it is a world that's supposed to be fictional bc that adds another layer to it
tvrningout-a · 1 year
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ngl i think if i manage to write anything, it's gonna be like one draft so lemme just say that i'm still waiting for the day i get to write an isekai au and indulge in my favorite cliché trope of all time
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DA SUPERRAKOONZ !1!!1!11 HECK YEA 🦝
Introduce (myself added up bc i didn't wanna yall introduce my own oc yet if youd like to assure you it's only just a being authorized with dealing in side character all of a sudden) all of the little creatures I've made fanmade characters that I create in mini versions unfortunately the others modern versions used to be delayed but don't worry I'd just add a bunch of details, biography, paragraph script into my history or maybe some headcanons crucially however this is spoiler admire...so I hope you love my fictions or whatever YOU interesting it besides I had huge ideas about them for a theme inspiration in my head✨️(i hope i didn't forget anything)
Ehh... Let's start !!! Who knowsss
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TRAVIA CANON EVENTS:
Name: Talking Ron
Main Character: Protagonist (Hero)
Capabilities Revealed:
Curing (healing) mightily Self-Healer (Regenerative Healer)
Multipontational (massive creative and interests to reserve held by educational activities when you use your psychological control power and strength and your co-ordination skills altogether to keep indeed societies from the future afterward to make a bunch of things that crucially get stronger input towards hearing yourself from worldwide passions)
Force-Field - Blocking inside his protection against his lives will fight the right choice (technological attacks can cause his past protection resolution to revolve unseriously injured in front of his control system behind his enemies as long as he doesn't suppose losing his energy without destroy Ron's life specific motion is mentally breaking down. Thus, for Uses, his controllable mindset overpowering to be managed to better flexibility with surroundings that should stay away from them with no distraction from enemies as you may have been danger) as known as "Flyrokinesis" list on kinetic.
Hacking Mastery - With his watch (automatically rare ! It is what it called "Technopathy", but different physic scientific extract from contractors' beginners are very given to many details from watching to attend to their interaction, perceive discovery(e.g., listens), watches, telepathic anybody. For some reason, it is used to be made up of circumstances like giving examples issues any speculation sometimes when it goes somewhere wherever you go till track down there will glow to leads you and gives another explanation. especially thus selection for courses on any side of equity, presumably that has multiple items inside his watch nor recent collections of submissions from amount of research that would helps your visitors to give them your acceptance once and for all !)
Psionics (legendary character does give him more powerful to those nonviolent to guarantee the world is the bestest thing you've knowledge of empower for. Whenever he gets a bunch of superpowers, such as his gem element on his tourmaline chest>under his crystal shiny made on cosmic force supernaturally strongest gemstone that requires you can glow up to became adolescent resulting in the forward when starts to feel like it restore himself into what is transformation in his rejuvenate happens his long-term life does never ever his disappears deathly wishs his luck< In the beginning of Psionics is that most likely the extreme is the highest abilities he has ever does do he got several manipulations..exactly what's about gotten too much his cleverness.
Psychokinesis (termination of his experiment to prove his true desire for complete existence can control his mind by everyone worried that witnesses attempt from past their wayside another he is willing or thinking to provide certified and focused on his influence of starting gets more inconvenient serenely damages nothing can happen to his powers are in situating. Active disapproval has nothing to do in his doubt manner. Don't get angry, frustrated, or picky to be careful yourself by making worse.)
Hydrokinesis (commonly used to known his hands to remake his imagination to separate him to compete against the water to gives his assurance of tries of strength to make a through sub-power hydration value to create some perspective to socialize your skills. The amount of his vex crisis would've might be much outrageous it came out of explodes and splashes everywhere due on demand).
Pet peeves:
Being late (awake, too late to absurd alarm but cannot hold himself into back comfortably straightforwardly possible to remember to take care himself even remotely to ensure remaining days which is also hating how to express to delayed his time however his watch needs to watch out for intend someway impropriety sincerely falling his behavior cannot be shown up to becoming more annoyed after this happens all day).
Snores (sometimes should shut their mouths, it probably gets worse to hear someone's snores during sleeping temporarily dislike the disrespect of his oversight with a bit extremely unsuccessful).
Losing things (again, maybe his memory might be lost, but reminder he powers can almost chase his passes to his stance then again the beginning of his story can be also annoying to lose every stuff what's leaving..)
Hiding from someone (it depends not to mention his manners were too accessible to reach his target towards their hidden and when it tries to annoy you for not telling what's behind here ? Instead of privacy, it'd like to make sure to save secrets and share each other, but unfortunately, it's getting started frustrating for doesn't understand his trustworthiness. Leads him don't make sense don't make him sensitive he's able to finish his reliability that should get deserved better what they staff will do spread. A rare to prevent the "obscure, not uncertainty"? The minimum offer is not just for constant attention because of the complaints that who bothers them who never believes Ron's thinks that is the case could never underestimate, such like mysterious threat. His responsible are always totally trusted with effective feelings because otherwise to shouldn't been said about bad about left behind his unserious, somehow he super annoyed the fact ignores you doesn't affect your mood without telling the truth nor sticking side).
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TRIVIA:
Name: Roy Rakoon
Main Character: Antagonist Anti-hero (actively)
Capabilities Revealed:
Mastermind - Supervillain can do things for evil stuff. (very clever to creating stuff, his mind to bragging the whole thing do super weaponry serialization can be dangerous to continually to outstanding intellect such a brilliant idea thinker with original ideas he recently had several crimes to make increases everyone's lives will be devastating. After his steps forward to the biggest clever, genius thoughts that really did that superior were clearly taken over town to attempt fully professional to be theft, it is possible to fought them back his sidekicks' total brutality especially his powers are too unsafe to pop up in front of others wanna be his idolize is way too powerful to those small special about him to not seem his suspicious nor got caught seems strangely to figure out to stole their life properly to such hidden burglary. Thus, he did for goodly stealing jewelries, store, money, and any of those against crimes to abandon his rights it is for antagonizing himself into supervision and ruining innocent people to all gestures could hesitate for them to not care about their feelings because his selfish reasons were supposed be act not selfishness someway the can happen whenever his owner backstabbing it moreover than that doesn't do best his choice to right things to everyone career a huge innocence not Roy's feelings constantly savages moments all of a sudden.)
Hand-to-Hand Combat: (Karate nor martial art skills indescribable the session kick-off their interaction to be more powerful than weaknesses focuses. The difference between hand to hand combat definition is that weapons sometimes include terrific tools whenever how seems to ranges from beside the phrase do not take actions theoretically terminal skills to comprehend the consequences of his control made up tricky. Technically, it's just some short-term things that would work for him. Psa: His pet naming "Helping Hand" (accomplice helper) is a robotic thing to control with one hand and has only button on it could handle the assistance of sideways to proportion each other to destroy the entire universe hasn't been overcome.)
Survival Skills: (create a built something you imagine can have that much technique to use helping others to survive themselves as for himself rest of environmental issues but helping all thing to do common sense is preventing to try to his skills to operate in any kind of container who wanna do job provides master includes fire, wood, water threshold, camping foodstuffs when it does makes him fastidious sculpture behind people wording his history tries helps by himself none of them often have somewhat to receive his reassure until by then essentially safety due built-up while thousands hours to complete this effort any detail that surely isn't that necessary when he used to learn type of basic whatever chooses.)
Hacking Skills: (create grew fast the technology success abilities takes his business and controls the devices of hardworking to make a earned maximum to built robot, machine, unlike scientific progressive access every world has been hacked out by danger however when he carefully plans crazy things like combinatorial his brutal intelligence and must've getting different from somebody's error connections that might be worth it somehow he learns to do computing complete daily through trial-and-error for became a massive negative demonstration although there's more informing the public story about how he uses self-destructive (to availability for his appear the screen from nowhere the nearest time is all over townspeople started outrageous) appearances came up on his mind by not "seldom" his destruction to manage the world will be devastated to sooner rather perishable throughout at the end of the day filled out of evidences).
Architecture - Structures Skills: (he built anything from structural engineering workout, including the houses like can superspeed understands the construction how initiative usually useful for other company's would hire his moderate approach to his powers and thinks of reasoning against blueprint to drawing and creating something "perpendicular" likely perspective gorgeous model creation that creates himself a million seconds overdue after finishes built-in too quickly nothing can change his potential ways even his pontificate are protests very right nothingness frame in front of other workforce..)
Pet peeves:
Whining or Whiners: (to be fair, he dislikes annoying brats to make him look unusual sensitive his proven that he never should ever complain about ridiculous excessive behavior and stuff cry louder at him and eliminates (fails his proper gesticulation words) to their annoyance.)
Disconnect issues: (really hate the fact that the internet connection went worse and might be extraversion (talkative) to his computation tries really hard to connect the right way to figure it out how rid of the tittle scrap thingy when's thingamajig precisely demolished the error problem with getting point in disappointment and kinda annoying how repetitive itself which is doesn't make sense whose fail his handling is game over. Suddenly..)
Slow Walkers: (beholding himself doesn't giving chance why's waiting too long in the traffic suchlike meant to be more exaggerated can't hold himself to random people is super annoying when it starting to feel like it rages the bombarding of huge boring to move on side way to consideration fact to deal with him to ran faster than slow walkers). Quote roy: "MOVE OUT OF WAY YOU DORKS I TRIED TO BACKSTREET TO NOT BE LATE LATER ON I FASTEST AS I CAN"
Getting exposing secrets: (his hidden will never escape his from caught by others to avoid the temptation called out at person to known what's behind the schemes before someone else could see his suspension after all that begins to disassociate yourself one of blames causing a troublesome exact situation to moment of Roy's exposed to the people asked him so many times, while he's starting to annoying at them because everyone though he is criminal or whatever his mansion what's inside to not be considerate as during the investigation).
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TRIVIA CANON EVENTS:
Name: Scientist Ron
Main Character: Contagonist
Capabilities Revealed:
Telekinesis: (A paranormal is the mind control itself whatever happens, his ultimate brain, properly repeatability gets more powerful and single physical system dragging on stronger is allows to hands-on manages to struggling appeal the hearing yourself again thus serving is better to do his magic to multiply on supplies to make a huge forceful commitment towards his manipulation skills can lead optimize with his little "antennae" on his upper ears (protuberance maybe ?) to connect like buzzing sounds tough is roughly Instruments noises, and participants can perceive wiring itself to the muscle meter to suggest what's blowing up. Special Features: To the point of wire electricity thingy, this might living aera nearby voiding empty trespassing center is declared in what called "consent" to giving a partner permission. Unfortunately, this can't hold strict simulation aside them who are judging by step a side clearly doesn't like to hear what they said while the end of the discussion this would be his first danger uses aggression at them least of once than specific to take his monstrosity reminded looks like kind of alien moving into evacuate estate direction property. Likewise, the anticipation of his antennae can actually wiretap his wrap on people's minds (like radiation movements, chemics effectiveness) no matter what cause can be something evacuation.)
Telepathy: (reading their minds who accessed their communications since readers knows what point could ever try to understand and unbelievably impossible to assist hearing thoughts, besides extrasensory very critical plans due prerogative, whatsoever is inspection as extrasensory perception sensitivity measures less pressure to reach his thoughts upon about reaction was distributed primarily covered up).
Multilingual - (Omnilingual with his goggles communicated): (Tons of languages for speakable mechanic speaking out outnumbered monolingual ability is the most important thing that communicated even more activity surrounding your different language techniques that can proceed either everyone has cultural natives for could be globalizing each other somehow the human body seems to reasonable for sure if it hanging disruptive his attention personality apart from personnel something tasks and offering them to share their understandings). As for Omnilingualism: (exact what came from multilingual, but this is way different superpower. However, it can treat itself whatever suppose that can refer to speaking out of understanding to duplication opportunities for the opposite side that begin over relatively quickly about true alternative languages to ultimate power and figuring themselves as known unspoken learnt its possible to get plenty of hobby as for his impression gotten into existence. When he associates the part of forgetting his goggles, it is probably rare somewhat to control factor of the numbers, which is that it truly doesn't influence to transform something erroneously that indicates to prevent how to occur if he show the system disgruntled to the programming codes, exports are supposed to be looked greenish technically types of "error connection mechanism" would look like mathematician in a equation some sort of calculator prototype can actually interact in the features sounds generally do things about like most of uncalled artificial intelligence that proves to produce a human languages especially foreign languages includes speech to keep usual vision at them not to easy to his self capitalized. As for his superpowers in any way to manipulate kinds symbols as he thinks of to processing the whole routine, it made sure if it wasn't going after his separation starts while the other his languages could gets supernatural powerless outtakes (depends) as much he explains how the communication works after all gets never known he shows or whatever that high variations are no big deal which is happens he angered it for the "both" example his establishment once-over or not is coming from his antennae CONTROLS his goggles besides his side face right away, again in the further down is usually aware that it charges itself to the main issue instantly causes overpower madness self-control and then look way difficult person's emotions that is a way wrong to shouldn't and expect yourself from getting insecure for breaking to your promise it is because his owner scientific to approach himself and tries to giving decisions then suddenly bringing about his being overprotective is despicable without any anger or bothered by the problem furthermore mannerisms isn't faulty did determine loss combine the logic may doesn't work the way he act up..).(longest story)
Engineering Skills: (Stuff workability is intended only for position to be better being a worker and at the time of resume anything essential that can be leadership or creativity study for geologically math as for branches algebra, geometry, trigonometry calculus, number theory, combinatorics, probability, arithmetic, topology as for stratification details from subjects skills are chemistry (wording biochemistry) biology (wording botany & microbiology), meteorology, oceanography, zoology, physics, geophysics, history, astronomy, volcanology, computer>(I.T stands for Information Technology), solar system, geography, statistics, analysis, systems theory, and logic, & types of particular discipline rules really happens if he is "co-ordination". Also in engineers nonexistent and several major professionals things can does actively to never stops his compared none to his abilities can take you down from his geniuses fundamental knowledge of the biggest energy ever shown your shocked instead of studying in educational systems for his happiness wanted needs peacefully around being teenage and probably nerdy of course because he used to remember how his memories would've lost his enthusiasm eventually the event of his journal used to be number one for one of his physical activity matches will gets scored by out in front infinitely).
Absolute Intelligence: (IQ reasonably sure is about infinite power to manage his own as problem-solving as compassion in limited acknowledges remain in competent ability to take out of service for the others modern ones and create his psychological terrifyingly be fantasize and cans manipulated on controlling the actions no matter how this entire thing work for him must got to be most fascinating extremely and dangerously hazardous moment of proliferate to able multiply to sooner comes situated has become an proficiency for such massive growth peerless the admired of skills is because of the demonstration superstitious can be worth leading toward your damages can also be harmful for the health purposes whenever he never stops his weakness durably to be stable kinds phrase). Unlikely fluid intelligence or emotional intelligence conflict opposites unexpectedly.
Sonic-Scream: (Super legendary for his constant supreme ability purely for his superpower in the most vicious sense of an extremely powerful scream/shriek of high amplitude for a variety of purposes from his vocal cord and mouth, typically for offensive purposes, like causing destruction procedurally attacks, louds towards crowds unnecessarily didn't get rid of his bad attitude as a affected the enemies from his feelings judgment but not required unless they suffer his wave destruction is getting above them no harsh to be sure to careful what is wrong to negotiate. The contagonist can also direct their screams over large distances and even send them at specific targets because it seems really doubt that people's wordings are craving as his regular personal personnel devolved for starting shouting at them in aggressively nerve is gonna solve his handle).
Pet peeves:
Science jokes (technically): (not technically or technical purposefully. Specifically, it is rare ! Scientists didn't care so much about the comedy shows or jokes, obviously, that it stared to be odd oftentimes. Perhaps meanwhile, he was annoyed by someone who exclusively cared about science comedy when he heard of hatred so can disrespect along in the laboratory for multiple attempts from hearing from his field subjects because of the unserious sentence of his startled face off at jerks). According to the journalist appointment recorded by resources of scientific matters, it is a resume to Alternatively write about the scientist profession not to compromise by each side, making jumping conclusions
Interrupting: (in the laboratory, of course, without any helping anyone to try to comfort him and ambitiously can not resist his problems and bother to truly be focused on his eyes to filled out the chemicals holds his graduated cylinder from the many supplies that uses his plentiful for creation but disliked scared of him to screwed up at this point. Otherwise anyone towards his place to be live is not to make messes up in front of your groups or try help your groups with who's nerdy person and elaborate to arrange because he won't do this either few interruptions this time).
Poking: (out of nonsense matter with one's finger to play with the game in poked your nose and the objected which is currently pushing the way and sticking into eyes, is pure disliked it will be bothering any other annoying stuff how tries to poke around him in his entrance part of the most unknown thing you've spotted in actual reason the kids wouldn't have drained absolute might irritating from reasoning to kids touching supplies unlike poking made him interrupted become an irrelevant when's said with that be said he resigned from typical business to reach the hope gets attention as a downright instead of hoax, a goodly thing is he phenomenally hates pokes during focusing on innovation plans).
Clicking the pen: (stopping his loads somehow shows up to spending time, one's person over next to him to barely see being bored till starting clicking the ridiculous sounds with a big earshot of annoying over his intense reaction to it kept repeating real awkwardly out of his mind couldn't resist this as nervousness to may know what's from misophonia disorder recovery is up a really recognize that tapping dripping has rid of the cruel thing the way the pen nerve be allowed to follow his distraction without got disturbed onto makes himself a erupted inside in angered such as annoying as specified by changing his reactivate on spoke of repetition if it goes to represent a noises sounds probably did his unsettling may not have a bad reputation).
Not paying for things: (never paying attention or listening to inside his instructions unless when they understand it may decide to drift off to the point of view were prevent front of your lines while taking so much hours to aware of annoyance begin that awful same way during the time of his thousands rule of graphic suffering to stopping them to waste their time to living in his potential wordy using rather not just annoying in front of them just because he emerged from his legally group doesn't giving right to and proves everything to enter view on infographic not enough of his boarding pass to time constraints other group's imposition towards his journal while he trying to speak to whole situation instead of anything predictable reasons).
Slow internet: (connecting something wrong to can't make things work that happens to him in general until tried reconnect with other device to hacks his own magic spells and seems like it gets really annoying if goes slow retry another loading screen every time that he sees any kind of emergency wouldn't stopped because the poor hands wasn't surving those whole internet occurrence problem it gives so much confusion slows down around the time to figure his out of the technology could cause this trouble super annoying when making his nerves).
Annoying neighbors: (welcoming or greeting neighbors is alright when you eventually get submitted by random people with no forcing creases to actual reason for the right manner to mark the above them. Unfortunately, when he sees others, strict neighbors can judge the behold gathered to his believers, and they start to guarantee choices to having breakdown was no shortage cannot be associated can also find the annoying any given attention something negative towards his kindness smuggle form interact his place need to be getting out and never see them again with huge pessimistic in disrespecting unwanted stuff to oftentimes bringing to other negativity outright).
Physical touch: (simply rare ! Touching any kind of appropriate way without ramble or whatever thinks that he felt, which is can ever happen some groups touches you it feels inside on risk tickles and turned out he sneeze at them in his irresponsible mistaken could be embarrassing did not wanted to gets ticklish because disliking shoulder touched isn't good for it instead of just called his name better this way rather than annoying touches makes him worse that made it out sicknesses and be careful. Physical touch is not his favorite word for unrelated matters. he gets his disposable away).
Mental Disabilities - Disorders:
Hypersensitivity: (according to his skin, fur syndrome can also have sensitivity medical condition, which is the cause of allergic reactions to affect his body fluid intake of antigen regarding type in known as immediate hypersensitivity as for occur there in exposure in allergy treatment for out of his pimple within hours of another acne is belive and hidden somewhere whenever this does makes him look normal looks natural mention immunity to work together complete both to protect his body unassembled is done possible to see results from his normalized characteristic in short retirement life to giving intoxicated feels wasn't normal for some reason and watch out and do not worry about it, it is safe which is happens his through inside above his system works). In the meantime, as for aggregates called "immune complexes," it formed a rougher pathway.
Schizophrenia: (had a bad mood is considered to have a serious mental disorder in recovering from his distress is technically a chronic reality abnormal in case of his constant a bit extreme disabling inside apart from functioning whenever gets worse and might even be starting having hallucinations once his anxiety, distress portion in some combination sets the impaired daily properties in coursing for behavior in his hold treatment out of unattended can sorting through trusted to due results from begins has multiple overview includes, vomit, delusions, traumatic, effective such a particular for lack of motivation and disliked miserable sounds gotten too deafness instead of privacy in form too far to allows him look absolute secure incompletely dishonesty but the thing is for his schizophrenic syndrome won't even unstoppable inaccessible lifelong for pity totals triggers). According to the main calling of paranoia, (losing his thoughts and worries so much what happens if he feels threatened) which is complete become an paranoid for the effects of being threatened to begin to make him look bad, torture himself, and cooperate with evidence are truly outset for some way judgment one of his group's towards criticism about the composing in generally a representative on his responses to not giving nothing respectability for surely outlook on not settling on in to persecution thoughts, although there's no doubt about his distrust in others ironic disadvantaged actions...
Hypersomnia: (cause of excessive sleepiness and the many reasons when he sees himself into difficulty as a problematic as known, not supporting his good sleep when it goes on overtime to take too much far time and never stops workable ability dominant of vary slightly underlying in his illness and told it was unhealthy for his overnight life instead of making things overall does makes shifting work a lot as for sleepiness conditions for ill ironically and repeatable depression, likely stuff includes insomniac of the rest of doings days often and giving easy to stopped his life-long without fixing hypersomnia for the first might soundly needed for help to get back to sleep until the staff works messy with too little harsh and somehow against his feels super motivated of nothing prepared for battle in every hours until ends the daylight for reasons it's a huge understanding his technique must to do whatever he wants but it doesn't fact the change nothing to command his mind to lifestyle to achieve the all night or all day after break or nothingness because of how long does this take to before the overslept beginning ? Therefore, in the uncalled sleep, as far as away his insomnia is not because of the renamed hypersomnia of the definition so it could resist his shouldering statement, an actual clear up that the most important thing is about him to accepted it than he did on purpose either incident way out of businessman. No wonder why he has under-eye bags happening with his sleep deprivation, having not enough sleep quality).
Anorexia also known as Eating Disorder: Historically under the word is also added atypical anorexia nervosa symptoms examples of his dieting physical obsessing with getting skinny (is an average warped body that feeling himself into fluent about weight, is turning something very low gain from an image yourself to look normal may problems with metabolism to eating healthy foods without troubling to his freedom abdominal bad habits are simply made him forced to be intense fear of faith in gaining weight and specific restrictions of calories and seems to be force to gave him poorly luck to the extreme label spreads of the bodyweight intake someway to approach his body never used to lose every limit to beat the better finding food to insure the health on his diagnosis expects pushing exercising causes of underweight maximum loss below deadly less healthy between heavy metabolic transform energetic whose consciousness in malnourished any kinds of nutrition but his body is common diet for a day of no food in such a afraid of thing to do "decision-making").
Psychogenic sneezing: (caught up by hormones fluid into his virus causes damage from his cells to skeptic the sneeze under his booger to protein amino acids can be helpful for stopped his tissue cramped such a uncomfortable in necessary time of permanent stroke could cause a pain to survive during affects seizure to freeze itself nor does the makes cold even harder. The sneezing is supposed to be rare to use psychogenic to stress react in his psychological condition addictive behaviors that are wide-ranging and side effects of the damaging disease can also be unpleasant if the skin was not before referring strongly fear toward parts sensation is not too normal because when he becomes something way worse the sneeze situation has literal disastrous the only thing just don't started feel nothing unless he has a fever to sniffs really dust type of infection).
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TRIVIA CANON EVENTS:
Name: Gang Ron
Main Character: Villainous Protagonist (Anti-villain)
Capabilities Revealed:
Terrakinesis, also known as Geokinesis: (a talking about his villain role, is the most strongest ability he ever had that can control a pair of superpowers to spare his mind to dominate the earth but in the certain way to shown version of his powerful ragging from moving solid rock and other rock to the path sidewalks (street) the road at will escalate the to minded himself could sacrifice to stay on his pro overmuch and it based on his variation materialism and elemantalism due to view elements value to section as a simpler nature at making so much efforts to manage his anger or mind controlling itself to raging the apposed of the generates that step to reward can consume more energy ever known as superior power to collapse whole crowd. For the rare answer that he is also creating on his "watch" that is really based on gangs claims violation standards control over reality members to entire creation a reshape geologic materials to process as such as dirt underneath the ground and then that much deeper knowing where to his interest in closest their communications experiences. For that being said, the massive majority of his dangerous corporations were surprised to cut off from instinct strangers. After that, he powering up got destroyed the big attachment forwarding route distance from his general rest, which is disliked to be known as intimidation to people freaked out at him because it gets close to him moving strangers to having anger reactions to flow and throw at them with his mastery manipulation inconsiderable self-conscious down from his edginess. As a matter of fact, the research above his total brutality loses his control over suffering from negative effects of the most incurred everybody's junk towards his afterthought witness abilities taken too seriously, it can also smashing to elements that makes him not feeling pain with his arm muscles too protective to contain justified legitimate use for located in a sudden progressive to made up his elbows joint although it remains his immobilized for a few longer to get away).
Graffiti Skills (aerosol art): (A well-known wildstyle additional making artistic designer from the owner paintings and creativity written is usually to having the best ability skills to grant his allowance for spray all over the walls without permission although common turning into image of impression stylish perfection symbol is it known by criminality standards brought out to single other surface is considerably illegal to never gets seen who doesn't want to use one of his gangsters with non gang-related visitors of wrongdoings is unacceptably stuff is getting something like to have a fun time with sprayed entire world instead of witnesses attempt from comes by toleration and having habitat the portable sided of wall because everyone's knows are knowledgeable to hearing themselves to wanted them live in peace however the policeman arrived from conference in front of his individual to screwed up at this stage for being unauthorized malicious destruction in public property in the meanwhile the definition of "irresponsible personal in human being" is he doesn't care about their complaining manners was because nothing is about defacement he is being ignorant at the beginning then flashes toward your fought and to tries fight his back and forth into bash into "domestic vi0lence" (sorry if this was unnecessary traumatic warning additionally..because of his suffer "vague" is too pure liability are for overwhelmingly dysregulation emotions) at them acts up to pretend against tidings with his unserious answers is giving up on only time does not work anything essential information after his compassion defenceman is an survivor of another reason that can not be arrested involving the clue of vandalism).
Invisibility with his watch (automatically rare too ! Obviously it is probably creating to grant something item to set up for consent at his separation starts while the operator is making significant changes to make up to possible transforms body in to be shield from disappearance by the time can also pranked otherwise recent to vibe him from others to manage their business instead of business is all need to do to breakdown was durably crashed down from outside used to be security within 24 hours of seen a not visible to clearly nothing to seem strangely consider or overreacting yourself to remember how movements works if there's a temporary one a period time of loses his time by the again during his fun or staff wanted to like to stealing everything without everyone's worry too much as far as it is just a coincidence and there's more thing his watch is actually protection from self-defense so better watch out because hes too mischievously plans are way difficult to make him victory battle matter of time is very tiring to attend to his won appear in facility, either second spot of persons passive or take advantage of choices....even if it too far maybe try to do it next time...).
Roasting Skills: (discovery in the discrepancy in savage roastes is also an insult and descriptive reform for the insecurities to best destroy one of his opponents, and an argument is going soluble behind frustration evidently the position down from negativity is belongs his manners was hesitant try to replicate each of tastes went provoking legit liked made of someone's privacy and other behavior shows that tease them in silence that never truly describe his attention because when he roasts some diffusion includes humorous joke, sarcasm, disrespect, criticism besides his gang groups is capable to be better every savage words to loved to see their reactions without his beyond side consequence to defeating them instead of is best giving them shot and not meant for offense ones doesn't mention any terminating of bringing about attack them during an argument to distinguish the opposition event straight up point).
Porcupine Powers: (speaking of spikes for under his half masquerade mask was based on domino mask in the right side half face mask inside eye view is specially used to throws everywhere or it can breaks stuff to prevent how spiky can causes damage to prove to shown that it sharpen whenever their growing back itself whatever starts inside the mask it occasionally even gets strike frequency into restarting times bunch of his branches includes bracelet, necklace, gloves has spikes in there for sufficient amount of attention to claim his rule of such as breaking the law as an important resolution action would probably rest of his absence to rid of his abysmal a bit extreme presentation right outlook. As for his durability, it took advanced in danger composed to a self-made of armor surviving against the stage from where he begins his enemies, who start missions in type of way at a attack high speed, while his self defense will comes with the last straw toward his commentary which is unsophisticated somehow under his spike mask outcalled purposes to use once realizing that could control and pushed the button throughput is very professional to create some turns on design weapons built up by event with his what's planning on going to be is giving true worthy requirements to feel like moving into his organism (output from self controlling to spot there) and everything).
Trash-Talker (interactions with somebody else could aspersion to be mattered as well as the skill speakable describing the debate an insult spoken to bouts of biting is also incompetent, not an exclusive way to make so much excuses indeed to perhaps that made them less confident without his words given the struggle as much possible unlike forced to uses a acts of nothing how do gets done whenever uses for his stays humorous spirit always totally brutal is actual wildest ones ever wording in speech talks about in front of them instead of bring this up to body language sincerely bad calling names or unnecessary negative words intent face-off showdown skirmish on sending icky stuff have no idea his thinks even coming from is absolutely unfairness. Same with the previous one, "roasting skills" are pretty potential wordy using similarly to understanding more the information and differences between trash talks in heavy way..).
Hysterical Strength is also known as Supernatural Strength to connect with: (The most common anecdotal examples based on hearsay are of parents lifting vehicles to rescue their children, and when people are in life-and-death situations. Automatically, it used to force other items to take away from danger instead and least of stronger thing to picking every single heaviest to show more activation. Another usages: He possesses a supernatural strength. This incredible strength allows them to effortlessly lift massive vehicles, large airplanes, boulders, and even locomotives. Offensively, depending on if there's anything metalized like a massive major could happen to allow his power to exert strength to keep superhighway and his protective effect of victory successfully in among these phenomenon get away deported in situating and any kind of his ability is must've known publicly for all the safety gestures by any time not because he is the hero of saving/rescuing everyone to his savior is the reasonable for his emotions probably subsequent unable curiosity toward a chances of winning the his givens by scenery valedictory. Frequently it can be more romantic way some other's reaction becomes mind-boggling to sees his strength can also made him look attractive figure in front of them and solve their feelings to surround his circumstance sort of personalities behind their captures in this possession thoughts nothing to be concern for it getting holds his life and his disinterested based on it isnt helpful by them because he's too rushed for watches more often and wanted them more behave to him but giving short gently manner..).
Pet peeves:
Interrupting: (On abandoned place at his empty spot where to sitting on the loneliness street as announce himself is also main abandonment in a permanent living direction road nearly downtown. As for his interruption, it is important to let you get away from them to prepare for the best to ignore it, but the main issue is that getting bothered, he strongly dislike who blatantly make a huge conversation about themselves to absolute despise in actual thrown in nonessential annoyance in nonsense matter. It's very pessimistic for his response to provoking intensely doubts about everyone's controlling him look unusual abnormal personal it can treat you knowing how he seems raging at them and pisses his off and needs to picked his piece of joy no matter what he truly cares for everything without socializing in local privilege but does make him happiness no more annoying people so just be careful what sentences do only asked his "permission" rule list but that's his own choice though not them..).
Touching: (Really hate the fact he is suitable for mentioning every part of his physical appearances and such as annoying people who touch plenty of stuff and any other who collect his attention because he emerged them in logic might be made him uncomfortable in different ways either none giving him constant permission to feel his confidence could profound feelings before the touching thingy when's feels twisted and unsatisfied does not work for the historical aspects to try to point at their destination for regrets about it which is complete misunderstood by his values is controversial but it's all about annoying people who rashes to his trust to force him looked off from sticking around into pushing out of privately).
Loud Chewing: (Disrespecting in boundaries with the worst to seen oppressed over relatively established less felt lack of triggers however if chewing noises really get under your skin, you may be suffering from more than just a passing annoyance. You may be allergic to certain sounds it is what it is called "Misophonia" is also considered to suffer given the circumstances to can't handle how wild sounds gotten to be worse noises those who he has might a sound driving you crazy from his reactions can range from anger besides them and dislike bothers everything to make sure they didn't care if they chewing gum for giving him attention because it's such a waisted to watch them back is all things to do control over them in violently whatsoever).
Alarm Clock: (like I said, he is super obnoxious on hearing horrible sounds when he got into his mind blowing up and excessive behavior then he definitely might destroy snooze for good with no distracted of sleepy time directed toward him because he literally annoyed at alarming sounds even though this eventually gets worse to tries he best to sleep without awake or whatever doesn't feel too well to waking really that early someday. Wouldn't be a coincidence for him, or it is just for connecting with emotions to be unnoticeable craziness over his recently woke).
Staring: (Some people just zone out, and you end up in their line of sight. Some people, though, have no tact. Staring feels especially frustrating when you’re already uncomfortable..it is really disliked for begging someone's stares for close up each other is the stupidest known for sure how pretended is trying to figure out to looked away from them. It's no problem at the moment, but embarrassing yourself isn't that big of a deal. He dealt an ignorant face-to-face confrontation judge, by the way..) However, he thought that it made him angered at them and reaction it's with his actual own quote mentions: "What are you looking at ?" or another regular slang: "Tch, what are you looking at me like that.. dork ? Can't you see I'm seeing myself to look desperate before you looked at me like a maniac ? Aren't I saying things to you ? Oh.. well, kiddo, being alone forever isn't my business... except one of my gang teammates would like to join just for freedom.... Sooo.. ehh, buzz off !!"
Talking during the movie: (If someone is next to you talking throughout the entire film, how are you going to hear what the actors are saying ? The same goes for using your phone in a dark theater. It's kinda distracting to everyone else that you have said it is wrong to look up or pull out your phone during movie theater, which disallowed them to stop texting so then again become an outrageous to till now to smash their phone without hesitation because he's too evil-doer for ready destroys any more satisfied himself against crime is no to be afraid of his bravery to take advantage of people's devices mostly admires his regrets and gets annoying sounds since it used to be displayed after the gossiping over him is giving up moreover moving another number doorstep but not anymore).
Talking over people: (Righteousness surely you feel a little bit burnt out being the only person who is carrying the conversation when socializing. It something come to clearly gets annoying that dislikes' way to seem get angry is overcome with them within hours to believe failing patience rather than interrupted and instant back away to leaving alone that cannot stand them to stay on his along space as matter of fact the problem during featuring reaction unexpectedly thing's the only way to stop them in to become silence sometimes he associates nobody should benefit from his generalize about the smelly humans (While talking over them decided to choose from sombody else instead of him is also can be waiting for his patience but not anymore).) His mental disorder is adhd can be sigh on side character does makes him bad situations especially their says on assumptions of what to wanted he needs despite them separate from notwithstanding spitefully...Any other common neurodevelopmental disorders discovered that his neurological trouble can be included Intermittent Explosive Disorder (IED), Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), Asperger's syndrome formerly disorder (AS), Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) related to added up. Or May not...soon !
Music Genre & Instruments Interests:
Rock-and-roll: (Musically characterized by a heavy beat and uncomplicated melodies. It first emerged as a fusion of rhythm and blues with country music knows how to play really good instruments and beat the used to be his persona. it also had a polarizing influence on lifestyles, fashion, attitudes, and language. It is often portrayed in movies, fan magazines, and on television. He was really obsessed with it to practice even more activities. In band rock music has put in toward his own interest to point of view is surprises his way enjoyment).
Electronic music: (any music involving electronic processing, such as recording and editing on tape, and whose reproduction involves the use of loudspeakers. It is sure to be different from type of his practical techniques as long as he admits himself to use those instruments work to help it out from his gang-related memberships, which joins up to get into the studio performance).
Heavy metal: (around mid-90s his very young age to be called teenage: A Summary of how did he learns from start to become a professional musician due According to his middle childhood, he wanted to be singer, artist band to carry his own destiny to inspire any kind of famous artists to feel he'll get motivated to be just like them and proceed toward happiness likewise wanna teach himself to use lessons in random notes to make a perfect splendidly blend up recovering his guitar skills of the period time to work a longer hours to practice way such as his flexibility in event exclusive way sort of sources giving him easier until he grew up in glowing up turned out to be well-made just for adjustable a made him look punk figure maybe could be attractive guy rather than be bad guy it might also be mixed-up matter of time for further goes. It stays own lives).
Funk music: (It deemphasizes melody and chord progressions and proves focuses on a strong rhythmic groove of a bassline played by an electric bassist and a drum part played by a percussionist, often at slower tempos than other popular music. Funk typically consists of a complex percussive groove with rhythm instruments playing interlocking grooves that also create a "hypnotic" and "danceable" whatever he feels. Well, It uses the same richly colored extended chords frequently found in bebop jazz, such as minor chords with added sevenths and elevenths, and dominant seventh chords with altered ninths and thirteenths. In the meantime, other percussionists can play funky music, which is badass to give, allowing away while playing the rest of his doings himself to proving all the matters).
Electric Guitar - Bass Guitar 🎸: (It has evolved into an instrument that is capable of a multitude of sounds and styles in genres ranging from pop and rock to folk to country music, blues and jazz. It served as a major component in the development of electric blues, rock and roll, rock music, heavy metal music, and many other genres of music. However, the popularity thing is wanting to separate the music to manage plays with other instruments, especially his favorite guitar without retiring). Another specific short: (Spoiler fiction: one of his metalheads group joins)
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Also a quick sponosor/announcement is shout out to my stepsibling made this MASTERPIECE villain version based on the name "Talking Tony & Friends" image who requested him and it was a huge BANGER AND I LOVED IT SM<3
Designs cartoons were made by the Ttaf official website (merchandise) if you were wondering. (Characters that i drew them) :"D
Characters: Talking Ron, Roy Rakoon, Scientist Ron, and Gang Ron (one of my fanmades that are in scripting them for many examples)
『Layers: infinite (folders) 』
Program I used for very usable software: IbisPaint X (occasionally also using the fonts too)
Hope you really enjoy my authorized writing composition on the dialogue 🫶🏽ngl that took me a week to write/type all of it, and good luck with everyone's reading these, eehh...., that's too bad... if you are lazy enough to read, I'll add some a few explanations (if you have dyslexia) or maybe if you are really interested or satisfied with reading the entire essay.👍🏽
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It is very concerning to me that ppl in the supernatural fandom r just now (barely) starting to recognize the racism in show. Like the show is very deeply seeped in white supremacy in a way that was very obvious to me when i first watched it at 11. Like I used to be very confused when ppl talked abt Supernatural as a progressive show??? I used to joke with my friends in highschool calling it whitesupremacistnatural bcuz that it is literally the show. White supremacy is so baked into the show and its ingrained into the foundations of the fictional world that Supernatural takes place in. I really cannot take white fans of the show in particular seriously bcuz i feel like if u cannot recognize the incredibly blantant racism in Supernatural i do not really trust any analysis of the show that u make. The only reason I can think of as to why so many fans are unable to recognize the racism in the show is bcuz just abt every scifi/fantasy show from this period had similar issues to varying degrees (although i do think that Supernatural is one of the most unabashed abt it). Like once you pull back the disguise of fantasy Supernatural is just another The Birth of a Nation esque tale that romanticizes white heroes defending the "real" humans from the dark races who cant help being born evil but must be eliminated anyway. Its incredibly unsubtle to a point that often made the show difficult for me to watch especially the longer it went on and the older that i got. That being said I still watched 14 seasons of Supernatural. I love the show and talk abt it constantly bcuz (surprise surprise) it is possible to enjoy a show while still acknowledging the ways that it is deeply problematic. I dont think its a coincidence that ppl r just starting to acknowledge the racism now (nearly 4 years after it ended). I think someone could write multiple dissertations abt the racism and white supremacist undertones in Supernatural bcuz there is so much of it and it appears in so many varying ways.
I don’t have much to add to this just letting you know that I feel you!!! literally hilarious to call this show “progressive” lmaooo like sure maybe in the same way that a corporate pride tweet made by a company with notoriously unethical business practices is “progressive” <3
show created primarily by white men for other white men that ended up attracting a massive white queer audience that was all too happy to gloss over the loudest and ugliest parts of the canon: blatantly racist central concept of Good vs Evil, dean being blatantly abusive to sam for the majority of their relationship, irresponsible casting choices wrt antagonists like Gordon and Raphael and s13!Michael as well as the disposable henchmen/extras who were far too often portrayed by black and brown men and women considering the glaring shortage of black and brown “good guys” in this story, truckloads of blatantly homophobic and misogynistic jokes that were supposed to be viewed as charming, and so on.
no need to unpack any of that though! talking abt that stuff gets you labelled a hater. keep walking on eggshells around the majority of the fandom and tagging discussion of dean’s canon actions as “anti dean” and critical discussion of the show’s super unsubtle roots as “negativity”
as long as the white queer audience got their goddamn d*stiel crumbs they were satisfied lol. and fuck sam - the ONLY part of this thing that makes it worthwhile to watch all the way through as an adult bc characters like him are genuinely so so rare - bc he gets in the way of their generic white gay ship that’s built on flavorless scraps and wild conjecture. as always this website’s user base has impeccable taste and commendable analytical skills!
disclaimer: I genuinely don’t think I would personally change much abt spn textually speaking because AS IT IS it makes for a truly sickening narrative with brain-rotting layers that its creators could have never pulled off intentionally. this isn’t me saying none of the horror was intentional but that a decent chunk of it obviously wasn’t and that the Final Combination could’ve only come of the too-many-cooks-in-the-kitchen white american ignorance egotistical power-tripping (the latter on the part of, say, jensen) that resulted from this show being on the air for far longer than it should’ve been.
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Hiya!! Caroline Forbes for the character game, if you would be so inclined.
I am so so sorry I'm so late to this ask, but I'm hoping better late than never :) [like seriously I’m answering this a month late I am sooooo sorry!!]
First impression
My first impression of Caroline was during that scene at the grill, when she was drunk and like "I try so hard and nobody goes for me, nobody wants me, everything is a competition and I try so hard and NEVER win" to bonnie, and honestly calling myself out here, but I hated her in that moment simply bc I could see wayyyyy too much of myself in her, and I felt sort of vulnerable seeing such a blatant reflection of my deepest insecurities just sitting there in front of my eyes, but at that moment I wasnt looking to self reflect or read into it too deeply [I was there for mindless cheap entertainment] so my first basic impression I believe was to absolutely scoff at her, and I was like, I already dont like this chick, but also I was expecting her to be sort of a watered down regina george character, bc that's how they introduced her in terms of how she behaves w elena, she was supposed to be the shallow passive aggressive vapid bitch who's friendship is performative at best and toxic at worst, the way she treats Bonnie as a convenient sound board and replaceable company did not go unnoticed by me, these parts I can say I did not relate to, however I saw them for what they are, which is the makings of a headbitch mean girl who's imminent “untimely” death will not be mourned so much as alluded to constantly as a warning call and/or a cautionary tale for all the nameless dangers that are lurking in their godforsaken town, basically I expected her to die as a plot-pusher and then her death + the aftermath would've served as a convenient point of mild conflict between stelena to you know add to the "forbideness" of their relationship, so at this point all my first impressions were exactly what the writer's intended and honestly I was just waiting for her to die since it was clearly just a matter of time before that happened, but at the same time, I might not have been completely aware of this during that period of time, but the grill scene struck a chord with me and stayed with me quietly for a very long time, months later after reading several ffs and metas I can pinpoint that I was basically stuck between finding solidarity w Caroline in having the same insecurities as the character, and hating the fact that I had those insecurities at all to begin w and how vividly they were shown to me through Caroline without any restraint or cushioning.
So yeah you could say her character itself left me both vulnerable and seen at the same time so it was an odd mix of finding comfort and empathizing with this fictional character, but predominantly I was feeling.....agitated and hiding away from the truth that she represented to me; these two opposing feelings conflicted with one another constantly leaving me in a place where I mostly did not know if I liked her at all and if I didnt like her was it because she was written to be a mildly irritating side character [that I couldnt be bothered to emotionally invest in] or just because I saw too much of myself, especially the parts of me I dont particularly care for, in her to ever like her.
So yeah on one side I could say I wasnt deeply bothered [in a good or a bad way] by her, and only in passing acknowledged her to be the plot-convenient side character she was in the very beginning, but on the other hand, I somehow latently knew that it was so much more than that, and I am so so glad it was in fact the latter of the two that was true.
Impression now
Listen my impression of her now, cannot be encapsulated into a well thought out explanation of why I think so and so of her and how it affects me, but I think personally right now if you ask me what I think of Caroline, I would say I see her and I think, 
Oh I....know you, I see you everyday when I think about the kind of growth I want to have, I see myself in your past and while you may have grown I havent, but I can see it’s possible, however fictional and non-existent you are, if it’s possible for you, it’s possible for me.
[Also I just wanna add here, that in no way am I, at this moment, referring to canon!caroline directly but I am strictly thinking of the Caroline I have built in my head and the growth I projected onto her when I saw her transition from vapid blonde shallow bitchy human [and here’s the thing she wasnt vapid or shallow even in her human days but the insecurities still made her feel that way] to confident, painfully real, optimistic, loyal and so overflowingly full of love-vampire who has forgiven her past self but also loves her past self because no one thought she was worth that but Caroline Forbes thinks 16 year old Human Caroline Forbes deserves just as much love as Vampire Caroline Forbes and if no one else is brave enough, real enough to give that to her she will give it to her herself, Which to me is beautiful and resonates so deeply with me and that is exactly what I would say is my current impression of her; A girl so full of love and light, even her own shadow self cannot escape it.]
Favorite moment
Every moment she beats up a guy is my favourite moment and every time she insults Klaus with a smile on her face is also my favourite moment.
Idea for a story
Ok so I’ve had this idea brewing in my head for a while and I’m really excited to make it into an extensive multichap work when I do get the time, but you know how in Legacies [gag] there’s this episode where in an alternative universe where Hope doesnt exist at all, Caroline and Klaus are the cutest Enemies of the State couple to ever exist and they both are basically fucking shit up to the point where the humans wanna end the supernatural world as they know it, in legacies the reason behind the supernatural uprising was something unnecessarily sordid and stupid but I am basically thinking of something else but will lead to the same alternate universe we see in legacies, the basic premise rn is that  Klaus and Caroline are the Supreme leaders of the supernatural community and are leading them against the humans in this war that has broken out all over the world in a bid to end the supernatural world altogether, and I kind of have it outlined to take them from However Long it Takes my Last Love to let’s discuss our next strategy to over throw all opposing world governments on this table and then proceed to fuck on it.
So yeah I kinda wanna say stay tuned for that, but I wont cuz seriously I have no faith in myself lmao.
Unpopular opinion
As much as I love to criticize other characters [mostly Elena] for being hypocritical twats regarding Caroline’s choices, Caroline herself is a hypocrite multiple times through out canon, but I myself find that I am ok with that, since I never expected her to be perfect and her hypocrisy only makes her more real in my eyes since every time she is a hypocrite she is called out on it and made to face her own double standard.
Favorite relationship
I wanna say Klaus, like seriously I really really do,  but for me personally the relationship my Vampire!Caroline has with her past human self will always be the most beautiful enriching and hope giving thing.
That and also her relationship with her mom and how it finds this transformation from a place where they constantly hurt each other and are estranged from each other to a place where they try so hard to understand and love each other and finding the other to be an unmovable pillar in their life that strengthens and holds them up also resonates with me deeply.
Favorite headcanon
This one
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30 BTS writer asks: 1, 12 + 18? ❤️🌻
Almost forgot to add - thanks for asking<33333
1. What was the first fandom and/or pairing that you wrote fic for?
Unsurprisingly, it was for Naruto and Sasuke/Naruto. You can still read it in all its glory, even on ao3 lmao. Might be hard to believe but that fic (Unsuspicious title, don't ask why it's called that I have no explanations) is really the absolute first thing I wrote that counts as a fanfic. I didn't write about other people's fictional characters before that. I didn't really write much outside of school at all, not sure how I lived my life tbh...
12. Is there a trope you haven’t written yet but really want to?
I answered earlier that I want to write a horse rider au at some point, but what I'd also like is to write a real enemies to lovers fic. Like, actual enemies. But it might be too angsty, so who knows if I'll ever make it lol.
18. What is a line/scene you’re really proud of? Give us the DVD commentary for that scene.
Aah you guys really want that commentary don't you... maybe one day I'll release a version of tswm with director's commentary for the whole thing hahahahaha (jk I'd never have time to do that)
But alright, I'm gonna take the opportunity to comment on another scene in tswm that I definitely this deserves it, it's the reunion scene between Naruto and Sasuke in chapter 49! I hesitated to pick this one bc it's so long and emotional, and also I don't want to add any accidental spoilers... but oh well. Here we go!
[My comments will be in bold text, this starts almost at the beginning of the chapter, right when Sasuke meets Naruto in Kaguya's place.]
He reached out with a hand, the bright light reflecting in the half-moon in his palm. It glowed, and just like that, his hand wrapped around another’s.
Naruto.
He sucked in a breath, lungs desperate for air. Naruto stood before him, chest heaving, hand clutching Sasuke’s so hard he feared it might break.
Their shared beat rang loud in his ears, eyes wide as they drank each other in. The darkness had given way to white, fuzzy light, their bodies floating, suspended in air.
“Sasuke,” Naruto whispered, as if afraid to drown out the sound of their connection.
Honestly, I tried my best to make it as painful as possible. That's all I wanted lol. At first I had no idea how to write this scene, but then I just got a feeling and tried to write it in words.
There was no hiding in this place. It was similar to that strange place that seemed to exist between them when they fought, blows connecting, hearts open. Between one breath and the next, it would be gone, their shared hearts lingering long after.
Nothing more poetic than that special place Kishimoto created for them when they exchange blows... extremely gay.
Here, there was only the two of them, the heat of their bodies as Naruto reached for his face.
“Am I dreaming?” Naruto wondered, fingers stroking along Sasuke’s cheekbone. “You look so real…”
They sank down, slowly, until their feet touched solid white. He shivered, the tips of Naruto’s fingers touching his chin, his mouth.
“It could be a dream,” Sasuke said quietly, exhaling as Naruto came closer.
“I can feel your heart,” Naruto murmured, his forehead coming to rest against Sasuke’s temple. “I missed you so much.”
Images flashed before Sasuke’s eyes, impressions of the world from Naruto’s perspective. Menma as the kyuubi. Kakashi, entering through a window. Iruka, hand gentle as he reached over the table.
Sakura, pain drawing her face tight. A mountain of paperwork. Snippets of conversation. The overwhelming pain of loneliness, like walls closing in on him.
He puzzled together enough pieces to make sense of the days since they separated.
Must be convenient to just read each other's minds... I should stop making fun of my own writing. But anyway, I felt very clever when I realized I could skip explanations between them and just let them see each other's memories of the past few days. I think it fits that they could see it through the other person's eyes, all the emotions too. Especially how painful it was for Naruto and how much he was trying to keep it together in front of his friends, and still failing. It gives Sasuke a better understanding of what would have happened if he'd decided to leave after one year passed (and I'm still bitter at Kishimoto for doing that in canon.)
“Naruto,” he sighed, lifting a hand to sift through soft strands of hair, closing his eyes as Naruto pressed into him.
Hearts bared, he felt Naruto’s desperate longing as his own. It mirrored his own pain, the aching emptiness filling his chest. Little by little, the cold was pushed away by warmth, Naruto’s mouth touching his cheek, his jaw, his throat. It burned against his skin, each point of contact erupting into tendrils of heat that seeped into his body.
“I didn’t know what to do,” Naruto confessed, lips shaping the words onto Sasuke’s throat. “I couldn’t go back to you, I-“
Sasuke turned his head, capturing his mouth. The words were lost between their lips, swallowed by the sudden surge of need. Naruto’s arm wrapped around his neck, keeping him in place. A fever caught him, leaving him dizzy and faint. He felt emotions between them like a physical caress, like they swirled in and out of their bodies, like a strong wind playing with fallen leaves.
Pain. Longing. Fear.
Happiness. Comfort. Love.
Naruto kissed him like he’d die if they stopped. He might, for all Sasuke knew.
Don't mind me, I was just crying buckets as I wrote this.
Their hands were still clasped tight, their palms pressed together, keeping their marks in contact. Teeth dug into his lower lip, but he could barely feel the pain over the onslaught of emotion. It was overwhelming, to share Naruto’s heart so fully. Was this how Naruto had felt, when Sasuke had touched him by accident? When Sasuke had shared too much of himself, and Naruto had been unable to give him the same in return.
I think it actually wasn't as overwhelming for Naruto when Sasuke accidentally touched him. This place that Kaguya controls just amplifies things a lot.
No such restraints now.
Their souls were on fire, like chakra flames billowing around their bodies. It was too much to make sense of, and yet it felt as if they’d always been this close, always been one and the same. Naruto fit inside him like a key, like Sasuke was now unlocked, his body no longer keeping him prisoner.
“Naruto,” he breathed out, over and over again, every nerve ending alight as they held each other.
I was listening to this song called Heat Up by Giant Rooks as I wrote this (that's where the chapter title comes from and honestly the lyrics are just *chef's kiss*) and I really tried to use as much metaphor as I could, idk if that makes it sound boring haha but for once I was definitely thinking very hard about every single sentence. And I tried to make it as "alive" as I could, so you'd feel it rather than have it described to you.
An eternity later they calmed down, mouths sliding lazily over each other, heartbeats finally finding their shared rhythm. Their foreheads pressed together, Sasuke’s eyes fluttering open to meet deep blue, their usual strength faded into self-doubt.
“What’s wrong?” he asked, running his fingers through Naruto’s hair, thumb tracing the shell of his ear. “Don’t hide from me, not here.”
Aww look at Sasuke, so in tune with his emotions. He really is an all or nothing kind of guy. If they already share everything in this place, there's no point in having secrets. Besides, his worst fear is Naruto losing confidence because of something he said or did.
Naruto let out a sharp breath, lifting their clasped hands between their chests.
“I missed you,” he said again, eyes closing in pain. “I’m so happy you’ve been okay.”
So much pain. Sasuke struggled to make sense of it, so much of it reflected inwards, towards Naruto himself. He could understand the longing, the absence of him like a gaping hole. It mirrored his own pain, pain he’d locked inside his heart within a steel cage. It flowed freely now, wrapping around Naruto’s in recognition.
But the rest… Naruto let out a sob, and yet he was smiling. Sasuke pressed another kiss to his lips, unsure of what to say.
I know Naruto did that whole waterfall thing where he embraced his evil side and totally let go of all his negative energy... But you can't tell me he's 100% okay and only happy and never feels pain. When will Konoha start offering therapy... Jokes aside, at this moment in time Naruto is so conflicted. The whole time he's been worried about Sasuke leaving him, and telling himself that Sasuke would be happier in the other dimension, and that logically he should let Sasuke stay, but he absolutely doesn't want Sasuke to leave him. It's the most selfish thing he's ever felt, I think, this need to have Sasuke by his side. And he's got so much on his shoulders, just piling up, everyone relying on him to somehow magically fix the world. And he's afraid of failing, of acknowledging to himself that there are parts of him that aren't ready to shoulder this burden, that he's still hurting, that there's still a part of him that could have become like Menma. He's supposed to be completely selfless but he isn't, and he thinks of that as a character flaw, a personal failure. And that's kind of where his resolution to not become hokage comes from. Because he doesn't think he can remove this selfish parts of him, and so maybe he should embrace them instead.
“Sasuke, it’s so strange…” Naruto started, his words slow, carefully chosen. “You understand Charasuke so well, but Menma… I can’t accept him. And now I realize, he shows the ugliest parts of me. The parts that I’m afraid of.”
They both leaned back a little, to see each other’s faces. Light played over Naruto’s features, blurring him at the edges. Sasuke cupped his cheek, tilting his chin up so that their eyes met. Now that he knew what to look for, he could feel Naruto’s fear.
“It’s always there,” Naruto confessed, raw honesty in his voice. “The fear of losing you. The fear of not being strong enough. The fear of becoming hokage, and failing.”
Sasuke opened his mouth to say something, to reassure him, but Naruto shook his head quickly.
Sasuke, on the other hand, he never held himself up to be a good person. He's well aware that he has weaknesses, that he's putting up walls so he won't have to deal with emotions and stuff. But he does believe (a bit blindly) in Naruto, I think. Even though he thinks Naruto won't succeed, it's not because of anything that Naruto does or fails to do. He thinks it's because the world won't follow him, that Konoha isn't capable of change. But he never thought that Naruto would actually give up or have these kinds of doubts.
“Let me say this. I didn’t understand it at first. Menma always rubbed me the wrong way. I know you don’t like him either, but for me… It’s like looking at myself and knowing I gave up.”
He drew in a deep breath, his fingers trembling around Sasuke’s.
“And now, here, I can’t avoid that fear. Because all of it… all of it is for you, Sasuke.” He swallowed, and through the fear, Sasuke saw his determination. “You asked me, if there’s any room in my head for anyone but you. And there isn’t.”
Naruto's brain is 99% Sasuke and 1% ramen, that's just fact. That aside, this might be one of my favorite quotes in the fic.
Frowning, Sasuke bit the inside of his cheek to stay silent. Naruto was working up to something, he could tell, and part of him couldn’t help but think it would end the two of them.
“Don’t look at me like that,” Naruto said, drawing the pad of his thumb over Sasuke’s eyebrow, the touch equal parts reassuring and painful. “I can hear your thoughts, you know. Do you really believe that I would choose anything else over you?”
A lie caught on Sasuke’s tongue. He didn’t want to believe it, but what place did he have by Naruto’s side? How could he be all that Naruto wanted him, needed him, to be? How could he be someone that others would accept walking by his side?
Oh, Sasuke. Always so ready for Naruto to cast him aside. He doesn't want to stand in the way of Naruto's dreams *wipes tear*
“I don’t believe that you would want to,” he replied, eventually. “But maybe you should.”
They stood for a long time, looking at each other. Sasuke felt torn in two directions. He wanted to tell Naruto to never leave him. He wanted to say that he’d accept anything. That he’d remove himself from Naruto’s presence to make the choice for him. That he couldn’t, wouldn’t, stand between Naruto and his dreams.
That he’d known, all along, that the other dimension was only a dream. An impossibility. That he accepted this, and wouldn’t resent Naruto for choosing the village over him.
I think the difference between Naruto and Sasuke here, is that even though they both think the other should maybe leave them for better things, Naruto is much less ready to actually give Sasuke up. Sasuke is more of the martyr type lol.
“You deserve me,” Naruto said, voice dark with conviction. “Don’t you dare think otherwise. Don’t you understand? If you saw what I’ve been doing the past days…”
Naruto lifted their joined hands higher, shifted his grip until he held Sasuke’s palm open in front of himself.
“I thought only of you. I cared only about you. What good is the village to me, if you’re not there?”
His heart felt too heavy in his chest. Naruto’s words rang through his ears, the implication behind them ensnaring his heart until Naruto held it in his hand, too.
“I don’t want any of it, if you’re not with me.”
Sasuke lowered his eyes. He couldn’t allow himself to give in. He’d already given so much, and although he knew that Naruto would have this, too, it was too much in this moment.
“Sasuke… When are you going to recognize that you’re a good person? That even if our relationship hadn’t changed like this, I’d still need you beside me?”
I wanted to write this part so badly... To make Naruto tell Sasuke that he's a good person. That Naruto thinks so, at least. It's one of the first things I thought of for this scene. Not that Sasuke agrees haha.
“Me, a good person?” Sasuke raised his eyebrows, meeting Naruto’s gaze again. He recognized the stubborn glint in Naruto’s eyes, and sighed. “Even if that was true, you’re smart enough to know it’s not enough.”
Slowly, Naruto pulled his hand closer, his grip turning gentle. Sasuke caught himself holding his breath, as Naruto’s lips connected with the mark on his palm.
“You still don’t understand,” Naruto murmured, the movement of his lips tickling Sasuke’s skin. “The past few days, what have you been doing? Caring for the children, when I wasn’t there to do it. Putting Charasuke before yourself, comforting him in the ways he needed you to. Holding yourself together. Trusting me to come back.”
This is where we acknowledge exactly how much Sasuke has changed. Naruto spent the days apart thinking only of Sasuke, even to the point where he was neglecting his friends and duties. Sasuke, on the other hand, stepped up to fill the role he thought Naruto left behind, hiding his pain behind helping others. Ultimately trusting Naruto to hold his promise to come back. Also, I just want them to be soft with each other T_T
Staring at him, Sasuke’s breath caught in his chest at the swell of pride Naruto felt for him. Was it true, that he had changed so much? In Naruto’s eyes, he had. It was startling, to realize how Naruto thought of him. But Naruto had changed too, he thought. They had grown closer, in a way he didn’t think they could have in their own Konoha.
“I think Charasuke is a bit like you,” Sasuke said, lips twitching upwards at Naruto’s affronted look. “He needs physical comfort. I don’t mind giving it to you, and I guess I don’t mind giving it to him either. You both tend to do whatever you feel like, anyway.”
“You used to mind.” Naruto looked serious, reaching out to touch Sasuke’s mouth as if to prove his point. “Suddenly, you didn’t.”
The smile slipped from Sasuke’s lips. Naruto was right. A few weeks ago, he did push Charasuke out of the window. To be fair, Charasuke hadn’t liked him much back then, either, and the circumstances had been very different. He did understand him better now. If Menma represented Naruto’s fears, Charasuke represented everything Sasuke wanted in life. But Charasuke didn’t have Naruto, didn’t have Menma with him either, and maybe that was why Sasuke wanted to be there for him. His connection with Naruto was precious to him, had kept him going, had kept him questioning himself even in his worst moments of darkness. Had given him a reason not to give up on a life that wasn’t filled with pain and hatred.
Naruto made it worth it to change. Was he hoping to help Charasuke change, too?
Spoiler alert... yes you were, Sas.
Perhaps Kaguya had something to do with it, but maybe, even without her influence, he would have reached this point anyway if given enough time. Time they didn’t have back home. It surprised him to realize that Naruto had thought of this already. That he felt selfish for wanting Sasuke to go back with him, when he knew it would be painful.
“You minded when I touched you, too,” Naruto added, as a reminder that they were talking about the two of them.
“I didn’t.” It was easy to confess. “I couldn’t allow myself to accept it, but I never minded. And now…”
Even if Naruto could read most of his thoughts in this space, it was difficult to say the words.
“I was afraid to have more of you. I still am.  Because I know they’ll never accept it.”
Sasuke vs homophobia :( Can't really kill that with a sword. Sasuke was definitely in love with him before they went to the RTN dimension, he'd just buried it so deep that he had no idea it was there or what it was. If you separate love from attraction it's not really gay, is it? (It is)
Naruto kissed him again, desperately. There were so many thoughts swirling between them, a mess of images and emotions overshadowed by the overwhelming fear of losing each other.
Naruto’s guilt, for not being able to reach Menma like Sasuke reached Charasuke. Their worry for each other. The frustration of being forced to wait. Sasuke’s slow realization of how much Naruto meant to him. How much his family meant to him, even a different version of them.
“I can’t be without you again,” Naruto said, swallowing thickly. “There’s so much I want to say and I don’t know how.”
“I’m here,” Sasuke promised. “Any way you want me to be.”
Even though it hurt, knowing the struggle that lay ahead of them, how Naruto had struggled only the past few days.
He wasn’t sure when he’d closed his eyes, but Naruto’s hands holding his face between them made him open them again. His expression was serious, almost solemn.
“I think you’d be happier if you stayed there,” Naruto whispered, searching his eyes. “You can’t deny it. I know they’d take care of you, and I can tell that your bond with your family is important to you. In a different way than ours, but still. I’d forgive you, if you chose them.”
Stop sacrificing yourself, Naruto. I don't like it.
“How could you say that?” Sasuke grabbed Naruto’s wrists, glaring at him. “Even after everything you said about how you can’t be without me, how you’d never choose anything over me, and you still think I would leave you? Even when you can feel my heart, you think I won’t choose you no matter what?”
Sasuke calling him out, as he should.
He knocked their foreheads together, tightening his grip.
“You think I’d choose happiness over you?”
How could he be happy, if Naruto wasn’t there with him? It wasn’t even an option. He cared about Charasuke, that was true. And the other version of Itachi, of Shisui, his family… Even the Sakura of that world. But how could they compare? Losing Charasuke would hurt, but it wouldn’t rip his soul apart. Staying with them would be a life, but it wouldn’t be living. How could Naruto think of himself as selfish, and still be so incredibly selfless when it came to Sasuke? What was he supposed to do, to make Naruto trust him once and for all?
“If I deserve you, why wouldn’t you deserve me in turn?”
Naruto didn’t have an answer to that. Sasuke hadn’t expected him to, and he felt him struggle with the concept. Naruto’s hero complex wasn’t doing either of them any good.
Like, I personally don't like the concept of anyone deserving love or not deserving it. Love is something you give, freely, regardless of how society values the other person. The love you give isn't less worth depending on the person receiving it. But I think the both of them are so traumatized that they need to make peace with this concept. They kind of need to be told - yes, you do deserve love, and I will give it to you. Naruto's hero complex is like... we don't have time to unpack all of that.
“You want to do this the hard way?” Sasuke continued, tone sharp. “I’ll do it with you. I don’t think you’ll succeed but I’ll do it.”
He gathered up all his resolve, all his conviction, pushed aside his own reservations.
“Saying you’ll forgive me… that’s a lie. You wouldn’t. You never would. And I wouldn’t want you to, anyway. If you wanted me by your side and I couldn’t do it, you’d be right to hate me.”
“I could never hate you.”
“Then I’d hate myself.”
Bearing each other's burdens and all that...
Naruto made a face, as if to disagree, but Sasuke felt him smile despite the topic of their conversation.
“What kind of role reversal is this,” he muttered, pressing his thumbs into Sasuke’s cheeks childishly. “I don’t even know why I’m arguing about it.”
“Because you love me.”
They stared at each other. Naruto’s eyes widened in shock, but Sasuke held his ground. What was the point in pretending anything else? It all made sense like this, and perhaps deep down Sasuke had always suspected it, even before he returned to Konoha.
“Y-you can’t just say it out loud!” Naruto spluttered, slapping his hands onto his own face instead, hiding behind them with a groan. “Stop being so smug about it!”
Me, while I wrote this: Yeah, you can't just say that out loud! The pain of being perceived. I am suffering with Naruto.
“I won the argument, didn’t I?”
“Ugh, shut up!”
Feeling lighter, Sasuke wrapped his arms around Naruto, leaning his cheek against the top of his head, Naruto burying his nose in his neck. He’d deny it when they were back in reality, but he could feel that Naruto wanted the body contact, and he was unable to resist it. It didn’t take long for Naruto to calm down, releasing a huff into Sasuke’s neck.
“Maybe we can just stay in this place forever,” he said, sneaking his arms around Sasuke’s back.
“You’d miss ramen too much.”
If an emotional scene doesn't end with a joke, what are you even doing with your life. But writing them hug was like, releasing so many endorphins. I'm weak to it.
It was strange, to talk and immediately feel every thought behind the words, every emotion on full display. Naruto’s amusement radiated off him, and it was his turn to feel a little smug as he concentrated on everything that Sasuke felt for him.
When Naruto started imagining long days spent in bed, Sasuke rolled his eyes and decided they’d been emotional enough for the time being.
Sasuke like, I can accept the lovey-dovey stuff, but I draw a thick line in front of the bedroom door. He's got some work left to do lol.
Idk if any of this made any sense but... there you have it!
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bbq-hawks-wings · 4 years
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Really long ask - Part 1: Hi, sorry for this long rant, but I just wanted to vent since I saw this latest story posted on AO3 and I am restraining myself on commenting on their story so I'm just letting my anger out here about it and other issues regarding fan-depiction of Hawks. It's vaguely related to your post on how DabiHawks or Dabi+Hawks stories make it all about Dabi and always made Hawks out to be the one who starts the problems in their relationship or is the one trying to get Dabi's
Content warning: passing mention of r*pe in a fanfiction.
LOOOONG post under the cut.
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Dabi's attentions when it's canon that it's the complete opposite. This latest story that came up in my feed was about Hawks "harassing" Dabi (who apparently has a backstory of r*pe) and Twice helps Dabi works out his feelings. Among the hoards of tags condemning Hawks, they decided to use "Hawks is very uncool in this fic heads up" so that's another one to add to my filters. I think I also have to block the "Dabi Needs a Hug" tags too bc he's always woobified like heck. 
I really want to read stories where Hawks interacts with Twice since they have a bond/drama with each other, but people have been adding Dabi and either making it seem like Hawks has been gaslighting Dabi in their "relationship" or with Twice. I can acknowledge stories where Hawks feels guilty for what he had to do or Twice being anger/betrayed over Hawks' actions since that is actually what happened; but I will not stand for Dabi claiming Hawks took advantage of Twice or Twice and Dabi having feelings for each other with Hawks in the way bc Dabi is a) the one who let Hawks in b) knew Twice is gullible and c) used Twice as bait. Even in the stories that are cute/causal+funny, Hawks is always the one who gets threatened with fire, harsh insults, or guilted into compliance but the seriousness of the first 2 are always brushed off and the third kinda makes me want it that Hawks doesn't have friends bc most people write him as a bad friend who only cares about his own problems (especially the ones that write Hawks like a celebrity/night club person). 
On writing Dabi, his issues always take priority over everything else, his family loves him, and the lov is always chill with him. He's usually written as the fun asshole/caretaker (bc of his big brother status or ablity to cook). Those factors aren't bad by itself, but it's extremely irritating when the writers/artists can give that level of care to Dabi, but just reduce Hawks to a meme who is a workaholic for the government/scared of punishment & not bc he really cares about the people he saves/helps. It's not like I hate the DabiHawks pairing, but the majority of the content (esp the recent ones), are frustrating to read & Hawks' character is usually written in bad out of character extremes. I am really mystified that I'm praying for canon content rather than fanmade most of the time.
Phew! After the back and forth it looks like we got to the end of that! (Or did we?! *Dun dun DUUUUN*) If not, though, feel free to keep the asks rolling. Lol Foxy and I are usually pretty happy to receive as many asks as people want to send even if it takes us a while, individually, to get to it. Now to finally address what you sent.
I find myself in a weird place when it comes to OOC fanfic because on the one hand people can write whatever they want, and I don’t really have a place to criticize them; but also when they blatantly and willingly misinterpret a character so they have grounds to bash on them it also leaves me acutely uncomfortable. I don’t think I’d call it “problematic” as much as a squick? Like, if they’re willing to blow past all the obvious proof to the contrary about their claims of a fictional character just because they hate them, then are they willing to do the same thing to a real person? Usually, those kinds of thoughts are pointlessly extreme, but we know those who unironically and/or unapologeticly call fans of the heroes “bootlickers” so... It’s like, ooc vent fics are also fine; and if you want to rewrite a character to fit the narrative scheme you’ve set up that’s cool as long as its tagged (“ooc [character]” or something) and/or just mention in the a/n that they knowingly and willingly mischaracterized them for the sake of the fic. Just. Don’t. Claim. It’s. Canon.
And speaking of canon, as much as I’m sure Horikoshi knew Hawks and Dabi were going to end up shipped I think it’s obvious that he never was going to canonically write them ending up together, yet here comes the “canon must validate my headcanon” crowd calling him a bad writer because the author had some bigger narrative goal in mind than having two pretty anime boys kissing.
And the worst part to me is, I feel there’s a distinct slice of the DabiHawks crowd missing out on some of the possibilities of this ship by intentionally mischaracterizing them. Like, the aesthetic equal/opposite draw of the ship is phenomenal as it is and I don’t even ship them, but I can see a wide range of possible fics based solely on the principle that they are canonically incompatible!
At the end of the day, Dabi is a dime-a-dozen edgelord - that pain in the butt OC that so many newbie D&D players make that they think is so deep and dark and mature, but is about as cookie-cutter as they come. It’s not that this kind of character is unsalvageable or a hopeless Gary Stu character, just that they don’t often come across as compelling in and of themselves or that they need more than just selfish hatred to carry them through a series. Two kinds of edgelords that can be done well are the “Out of the Ashes” edgelord and “I’ll Pull You Into Hell With Me” edgelord. The first kind recognizes there’s more to life than their sad backstory and getting even and thus choose to aspire to more noble causes - think Joel from The Last of Us. The second recognizes they’re actively doing wrong and come to embrace it - being more concerned with getting what they want than taking the moral high ground - think Frank Castle, aka the Punisher - and even these darker, “unsaveable” kinds of edgelord antiheroes can have redeeming qualities such as meeting and helping a young hopeful and telling them, “I know I’m on the road to hell, so if you want to save yourself you’d better not follow me.”
Dabi actually has what he needs to become the second type right now (assuming he’s Touya) and could even evolve into the first not unlike Kratos from God of War, but that potential can’t be fully recognized until you admit that he’s fundamentally self-centered and a bad person as-is. He may have the tragic backstory complete with justifiable hate at his genuinely abusive father, but rather than using that as fuel to see that never happen to anyone else like it did him - he just wants to get even. He burns people alive, knowing well he’s participating in the same destruction that his father committed to make him what he is now. He doesn’t recognize any of the merits of hero society and is only concerned with burning it to ash. He could use what happened to his family to incite compassion in his heart and take others under his wing, but instead he uses people as a mean to his own ends. He isn’t even proper grimdark - he’s just your run of the mill egotistical megalomaniac with a punk aesthetic.
And that’s still a good character in the grand scheme of things, maybe just not alone! Moreso, it’s a good villain and EVEN BETTER when you put him next to Hawks who is at his core:
Fundamentally Hopepunk!
Hopepunk is about being good and kind as an act of rebellion against a cruel and unfair world no matter how bleak it gets or how badly you’re beaten down. Despite his own cruel past, Hawks still has a heart to help others for no other reason than to help them, he constantly changes the odds to save as many people as he can when he’d be given a pass for letting the cards fall where they will, and not only is his aim to “help others” but to make sure that there’ll never be need for heroes again. He’s an active rebel against the system fighting with kindness and goodness, fervently looking and listening for the next opportunity to do good.
In agreement with you, Hawks and Twice are interesting to explore because while Twice is an optimist looking to make the world a better place, he’s still a step or two removed from Hawks’ worldview because Twice refuses to let go of the “family” he found for himself while Hawks is willing to sacrifice himself for others. That dynamic is so interesting, and it’s what made them so initially compatible and subsequently heartbreaking in canon.
And it’s such a disappointment to see this unwaveringly earnest character reduced to “shitty fratboy” so often. For a lot of people newer to his character I can understand the confusion, but there really isn’t an excuse if you’ve been reading the series, and the possibilities for fics with this canon personality are just so much more interesting to explore, especially with Dabi as his sort-of opposite.
For DabiHawks to work well, you have to recognize that something has to give in either of them. Some of the juiciest, most angsty content is when you have two characters grow close together over commonalities only to be reminded that despite everything else they share, that One Thing will always keep them from truly being able to see eye-to-eye. Either Dabi has to grow past his hatred and relearn compassion and empathy, or Hawks has to lose grip of that hopeful vision he has and fall into despair. Both options are good to explore, but both require the acknowledgement that Dabi’s view of the world is fundamentally bleak and selfish, especially compared to Hawks’. For a supposed revolutionary out to change the world for the better whose a diamond in the rough with a heart of gold, that’s not exactly on-brand; and at the end of the day the issue is that some are unwilling to admit that what they wanted Dabi to be is likely not going to happen and they love that fake version Dabi more than they love what Hawks actually stands for which is why Hawks always gets the shaft in the end.
I still personally hold a bit of a grudge against the DaiHawks ship as a whole purely because, as you said, Dabi always seems to take priority over Hawks instead of letting the two build a dynamic together. Hawks is always the one who has to give, and the torture porn some have made him go through to “make the ship work” is downright disturbing to me. Even at its height DabiHawks content completely flooded the Hawks character tags on Tumblr with some of the same problems that have persisted to this day such as emphasizing their aesthetic as opposed to their dynamic and rampant mischaracterization.
Anyway, that’s my long-winded response. What do you think, @autumn-foxfire?
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abri-chan · 4 years
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great blog btw, weird question but I think your the best to answer it maybe, what is the deal with Gio's age,he is 15 during Vento but a lot of girls I know who are Jojo fans(mostly manga based ones if that makes a difference) are absolutely horny for him and get angry when I bring up him being 15 during Vento or say well in current day he would be legal now so it doesnt matter or he is drawn older looking, but they are still kinda lusting after him at 15, what are you thoughts on this?
If I remember correctly Giorno does look younger in the way, and everyone is kinda twinkier in it than in the anime, but by the end of the manga he looks a lot like Dio in part 6. Especially that panel where he’s holding the arrow after defeating Diavolo I think?
I think this is not an easy ask to answer, because there are several things to consider.
The important thing is that it’s okay to you feel uncomfortable with them lusting after Giorno. You don’t need an excuse to be uncomfortable and if you feel something is not right, it’s okay to express your dislike or disagreement. I know there has been a lot of pushback against antis but I want to reiterate that being uncomfortable with certain things doesn’t make you an anti. The word is unfortunate because you can be against age-up content (and although I am fine with aged-up, I respect your right to be uncomfortable), but that doesn’t make you an anti in the fandom sense. In the fandom sense of the word, an anti is someone that not only dislikes certain content or wishes the content didn’t exist, but they actively go and harass real people over fictional content. The second part is the critical ingredient to make an anti. As long as you don’t harass others over what they like or dislike, it’s your right to speak against certain content or avoid it.
I understand your discomfort, because I cannot say that fiction never affects reality. I know antis love to use this argument, and the problem is they’re not even wrong. The issue is that they take the relationship between the two to be very simple, when in fact there are academic books and papers dedicated to exploring the relationship. Some things can have a direct and easily measurable correlation: for example diverse fiction representation affects marginalized groups positively. Also the way women are portrayed in the media has a direct effect on how men can view women IRL. But it gets complicated because we have to consider who controls the mainstream narrative: for example pornhub will have more effect on normalizing incest than jonadio fanfiction. Then you also have to consider the purpose of a piece of work or media. For example, I believe writers should be allowed to explore certain topics for the sake of exploring, just as artists can do with colors. So are dead-dove topics used by a writer to explore, cope, instant gratification, shock, pushback? How much power does this writer truly have with regards to their position ins society?
Then there are times where fiction doesn’t really translate into reality: for example, are horror writers out there murdering people? Is thinking of a murder the same as murdering someone irl, is murdering someone in the fiction the same as murder irl? We can get violent and inhibited in videogames bc we know there are not real consequences; but wouldn’t IRL because we know you can’t just hurt someone and reset the game. So while fiction affects reality, and reality affect fictions, it’s not always easy to measure how, and it’s not always linear. Also why banning all taboos or trying to police what people like is doomed to fail bc it takes a very simplistic view on human imagination or psychology.
Returning to Giorno being 15 in the series, the aged-up argument is the easiest one to defend IMO, and one I don’t get why people have problems with. We have aged-up examples of characters in JoJo: Jonathan, Jotaro, and so on. If someone can imagine adult Giorno (and I’ve seen some amazing art of Don Giovanna), they are not lusting after a child... Despite what his canon age is, you can’t argue they’re pedophiles bc they are clearly into an art piece that depicts him as adult. Why would someone think of adult Giorno when seeing teen Giorno? Idk why is Araki concerned with making a handsome man out of teen Jotaro (his words, he’s actually very particular about his characters being attractive)? We have to measure the mangaka and the fans by the same ruler, else we are hypocrites. Sometimes imagination takes you there... but once you see adult Giorno, it’s adult Giorno.
Another thing is that in the anime, and later parts of the manga, the characters do act and look older than their canon age. If no one told me what the ages where in Vento, I’d think the teens were young adults, and the adults were late 20s, early 30s. So while Araki slapped an age onto them; as a viewer it’s hard to detach your experience of seeing characters that look and act like adults from some number that seems to have no grounding in the world. I read somewhere that age in manga is used a lot for marketing: if it’s published in shonen jump and it will be mostly teens reading, you slap a teen age on the characters. But maybe as adults, mangakas have a hard time to imagine actual teens (it’s hard to actually write good children characters, and I suppose it’s hard to write teens too). So they end up with adults, but have to somewhat label the characters as teens to get teenagers to read the story. Let’s take someone that we can all agree looks adult, Risotto. Imagine someone told you that’s a 14 year old boy. You have this abstract information of age, but your eyes tell you that is the face and body of a grown man. So what will be easier to process for your brain?
Sure IRL if you knew Giorno was 15 but he looked adult, you clearly don’t get involved. But since this is fiction, it is possible to detach the concept of Giorno acting and looking like an adult from his actual age, because there are no consequences. The age is very abstract in this case... and I feel that’s why some of these fans are doing. They see someone that acts and looks adult, and it’s silly to claim they are 15, because it doesn’t add up. The reverse is when mainstream anime draws lolis and calls them 100 years old adults... you feel uncomfortable bc even though you are given an age, the visceral aspect it’s that of a child...
Now if these fans really lusted for someone that looks 15, that’s another question. And it’s not the same as people writing underage content... bc we have to consider how it fits within the narrative (anyone remember Game of Thrones?).
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thegeminisage · 4 years
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MAJOR tlou2 spoilers i have A Complaint ok here we go:
i dont think ive gotten to the main part of the game that most of the discourse is about but i think it was really fucking wild of naughty dog to release tlou2 on fucking JUNETEENTH in 2020 after they had FOUR black supporting characters (sam, henry, marlene, riley) die horribly in the first game (one of whom was NOT infected, but was mercilessly executed by joel himself, even after she begged for her life), and then chose to have ellie mercilessly TORTURE AND EXECUTE yet another black woman in the sequel, especially one who was INNOCENT of wrongdoing (she did not torture OR kill joel, merely held ellie down so ellie couldn’t stop it). nora was protecting a white woman and attempted to die protecting her, and instead got tortured and murdered by a different white woman. HELLO?? like i get what this game is trying to say about violence and i even agree with most of it and i KNOW that lots of people die in post-apo media as a rule! but i can’t help but notice that most of the characters who are survive are white and most of the characters who don’t are black and i especially can’t help but notice we’re supposed to feel bad for ELLIE after that whole debacle, and not nora!!! like, nora is the ONLY member of that little anti-joel squad who was black and she dies first. it would have been stupidly easy to swap her with one of the white characters or even one of the nonblack characters of color during conception or production, or even add more black characters so she wasn’t the only one. all it would take is like 2 brain cells! 
and like look. im normally the kind of person who prefers to turn my brain off when i digest fiction bc im just here to escape the misery of the real world and i try not to critique the ~wokeness~ of things too much unless it is just glaringly awful or annoying! but maybe! i wouldn’t be so fucking annoyed if this wasn’t their fifth black character and their THIRD black woman and they didn’t fucking release it on JUNETEENTH of all the fucking dates they could have picked afer being delayed about 6000 times like jesus fucking christ
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Friendship vs queerbaiting
"Can we stop shipping all (m/m) friendships as romance?"
First of all, no. Why should we? Shipping is supposed to be fun, and we can ship whatever we want as long as the characters are fictional. With real people it's a little trickier but this is not about real people shipping so I'll leave it at that. People don't usually choose a ship, shipping happens a little like falling in love: we find ourselves attracted to the dynamic of certain characters and the ship just kind of happens.
Shipping is not activism, like people often remind here. We fans don't need to ship the ship with the most under represented dynamic, we should ship the ship that makes us happy. It's not homophobic if you don't ship the popular gay ship. Its not racist if you ship the main character with the white person instead of poc bc you feel like these two have a better dynamic. And so on. But I need to add here that if a queer/interracial couple is canon but you ship them in a straight/white relationship with someone else it's a little... questionable at least. It depends the dynamic and the history of these characters and so on, but I'm just saying that there are exceptions to the rule I just presented.
So, if you feel like friendships between two men are under represented you have no right to tell people they shouldn't ship it because you prefer their dynamic as something else than romantic. And also: where did the idea come that they are under represented? The sole reason why so many non canon ships are m/m friendships is because THEY ARE EVERYWHERE. Plus, all kinds of friendships are shipped, f/f and f/m too but they're much rarer in mainstream fiction which is why they are also less popular in fandom. If you think "Fandom only ships canonically straight white men", look at Clexa for example. They only had one season together, and it got to the top of tumblr's most shipped list immediately. Stormpilot is very popular and it's interracial while neither is white. Don't blame the fandom for something the creators are responsible for.
The idea that we shouldn't ship friendships tells something about how our society portrays romance - an instant connection, physical attraction, something that consumes your soul after the first glance and makes you leave everything, even your friends and family behind. As if you were ready to die for them after one conversation, one night together, sometimes even just one look. This doesn't sound healthy or even normal to me.
Romance and friendship are not mutually exclusive. Healthy romances are often build on friendship, and even if infatuation comes first and dating second, any couple who has been married for years will tell you that the secret to a happy marriage is being good friends too. Best friends, actually, since they have to spend most time together. Of course I'm not saying we shouldn't ship different kinds of dynamics, I enjoy love/hate relationships as much as the next person, but popular ships that are accused of queerbaiting are usually canonically close friendships.
Drawing a line between close friendship and queerbaiting can be tricky, I admit. Sometimes even if I do think something is queerbaiting I understand the opposite opinion, sometimes not. Often, the opposite argument is something like this: "Yes, they clearly do love each other very deeply, deeper than most friends, but that's because they're like brothers/siblings." And I'm like... no. I know brotherly love is a saying but it isn't really... a thing. For people who aren't actually brothers. Because there are two things that make people siblings: 1) Biology, as in they are genetically siblings. 2) They have been brought up as siblings, they have the same parents and have known each other since birth.
Often siblings are both, but there are adopted siblings, and biological siblings who haven't met each other before adulthood. So if you can't check either of these for your ship, it's not incestuous. No matter how brotherly you think their love is. Because yes, people can form strong bonds to people outside family, but even childhood friends don't have the experience that siblings have. They don't have the same parents and the same happy family memories or shared trauma. They've never had the kind of authority that a parent is, who is close for both and able to decide who's right about the fight and who gets a punishment, who gets the bigger cake slide etc. And when you're biologically related the biology actually affects your relationship: it's just part of surviving the natural selection that we protect those who are genetically like us. Also there's a natural repulsiveness towards our relatives which prevents us from getting mutant babies. These things obviously apply to adoptive siblings too, but not to "bros".
So if someone says that these two characters have a deep connection but it's brotherly, sure, they can think that, but they have no way of getting actual evidence for their claim. Whereas if I think some characters are in love I can present evidence. I obviously can't prove it unless it becomes canon, but I can make it pretty clear why I think so.
Now, I'm all for having male characters be close friends without it making them gay. We need to show that men should be able to talk about their emotions with each other, just like female friends do. It's proven by many studies that straigh men are likely to have their girlfriend/wife as their only emotional support, and that needs to change. Male friend supporting the other when he talks about his crush on a girl: hell yeah. Male friend supporting the other when their parent dies: hell yeah. Male friends talking about games and selfcare and literature and their interests just like female friends do: HELL YEAH! I would like to see male friendships where they need each other because they have shared interests and memories and because they can be open with each other. Being physically comfortable with each other. All that.
But, you see, most so called friendships that are popular as ships and accused of queerbaiting, are not what I just described. These friendships are codependent. If the other died or was taken away from the other the other wouldn't just be sad for a year or so, but they would lose their grip of life and themselves. They are contradictory, and the characters are bad at describing their feelings for each other, unaware whether the "friendship" is mutual, surprised when the other shows that they care. They are full of misunderstandings, and the narrative seems that there's something that they're going towards. Normal friendships are solid and stationary, and while they do change with time and circumstance, they're not constantly evolving as if what the people involved have right now is not what both want.
Friends have fights over petty things, and sometimes just can't be around each other. These characters usually fight - if they fight - because they leave things unsaid and the viewer is forced to think: what did they mean to say? There's tension, neither of them knows how to quite be around the other but they need them like they need air. It is sometimes even shown that even if the other is in a relationship with another person, they can't share the most important parts of their life with that person - they need their "friend" for that. As if love was just physical, no common interests or chemistry needed.
Obviously there will always be some things that can only be shared with a certain person and that person may not be your lover, but at least in my opinion it makes sense if your romantic partner is the one who gets you the most. Especially if the love is supposed to be ideal or even supported by the audience which mostly is the case in fictional romance. And if the "friends" have most in common with each other, have shared their most vulvenerable moments with each other and seem to have romantic chemistry to many of the viewers, why not make them a couple? Because they are both straight men? (Or women, but most often men since most main characters are men.)
The argument against queer ships is usually just "not everyone is gay". Yes, well, obviously not. Some people are straight, that's true. They don't feel attraction to the same sex even if their life depends of it (So I've heard. As a bisexual myself this sounds like a weird concept. Whatever.)
And the conversation continues: "I think these two men you ship together are both straight, so they can't feel attraction towards each other."
"Fine, that's your opinion. But how do you prove that?"
"He slept with a woman/flirted with a woman/ loved a woman etc."
"Bisexuality. Exists. Also, some gay people try to date the opposite sex before they admit they are gay, because society teaches that's the normal thing to do. They could be in denial, or pretend to be straight so they don't get beat up or something like that, it's often hard to be queer. But once again: BISEXUALITY EXISTS."
So, the person saying they're straight is usually just basing their thoughts on heteronormativity, thinking that they're straight until proven otherwise. Fandom, on the other hand, looks at how the character acts around different genders and bases their opinion of their sexuality on that.
Back to "Not everyone is gay". What do people even mean when they use that phase? I look at the fictional universe that I love and see zero canon queer people, or maybe two minor characters that were in one episode. The world is filled with characters, and I'm only pointing at a few of them and saying that they seem to have potential for a romance, why not? Straight people already have almost every popular character, is it really too much to ask if we could get one or two too? That's not everyone.
The fans don't want the show/book/movie to become a romance suddenly, we're in this fandom because we like the thing that makes it what it is. We're just asking to acknowledge the romance that literally is already there. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A SEX SCENE. We're asking for something that could make the people who watch/read the thing from their heteronormative viewpoint see that it was actually queer all along. So that they would stop ridiculing us queer people for "seeing things that aren't there." Something very small will do: Hannigram didn't even have to kiss because everything needed to make a romance were already there, they just needed one conversations to make it clear that yes, Hannibal was in love with Will and yes, Will did ache for him too. Simple. Korrasami just walked off together in the end. With both cases the fans were happy, and it proves that the idea that "fangirls just want to see two men fuck" is wrong. We just crave to be represented.
The final argument against the queer interpretation is: "Relationships are complex, and sometimes you don't fall for the person who seems to be the perfect match for you." Yes. Real life is complex. Sometimes love is just physical, often you don't fall for your friend. BUT. As a writer, you're not trying to recreate real life. You're showing things and emotions that are important to the story, so why make a multi season/movie/book arch for a relationship between two men if you're just going to pair them off for someone else?
As a person who's into writing I get really confused by these things. One of the first lessons I learned that I still hear daily is: "show, don't tell". If you've shown us the two men falling for each other, telling that one or both of them suddenly love someone else won't fix it. And if every other character in the universe seems to think these two are a couple then it's not very hard for the viewer to see that too.
I am tired of hearing about "platonic love stories". The creators have called so many popular ships that, as if it somehow excused their queerbaiting. Platonic and love story are each other's opposites, and platonic love stories don't exist - unless they're talking about the platonic concept of love: that humans had four legs, four arms and two heads but they were too powerful so the gods divided them in two, and that's why people need a soulmate. But usually they don't mean that - however, sometimes they do. Thank gods for Hugh Dancy. But when creators literally call the ship a love story between two men yet insist it's not romantic, it probably aren't the fans who are reaching. If it's a love story, let it be a love story.
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To me, what really pisses me off is how Shamier was treated this season. Like you said he may have had other projects but you can work around it and not just have him appearing just to be in episodes but you can actually give him a storyline. And the thing is, they need him so fucking much, he saves the day almost every single time. Then he just disappears because he doesn't get any recognition for all that he does for everyone. There were so many opportunities missed. It's Problematic as fuck
yep!!!!!!!! that’s what i’m saying -- fine, the actor has other projects going on, that doesn’t mean you have to then half-assedly write the character. :/ 
im putting a cut bc im just gonna answer all these asks that y’all sent me like a week ago,
What I really hate about this whole situation is how hardly anyone is calling them out on their shit. Like shit how do people expect us to feel watching this show as POC's when the POC's on this show are treated like shit. Idc if they add another cast member and they're POC, it won't take away from the fact that one of them is a lead and constantly sidelined, one is now a villain and was treated like shit and one is only there for comedic timing and to give googley eyes at doc.
“one of them is a lead + constantly sidelined, one is now a villian + was treated like shit, & one is only there for comedic timing + to give googly eyes at doc” you........just hit it right on the fucking head there. im so pissed. dolls was treated like an actual nuanced main character, then he wasn’t. rosita was given an AMAZING story by having her be a revenant yet be kind and just tryna live her life, then they decided to somehow pull off the double trope of “poc sacrifices themself for white friends” + “poc is the villain”, like what kind of racist two birds w one stone kinda bullshit.......and then ya, jeremy. he’s never really been anything but comedic relief apart from the few hints that he’s got an interesting past + him saying that he never left purgatory bc he doesn’t fit in there but no one asked him to fit in anyway . 
What hurts even more is how all three POC characters have been used to prop up the white male character. Dolls has just been sidelined the whole season and am I supposed to believe that wynonna didn't give two shits about him in the finale when this is the same woman who fought so hard to save him in 2x01. Rosita was treated like shit from doc. And then Jeremy treats him like he can fucking walk on water. I didn't mind him but this and his fans have made me hate doc with a passion now.
it really feels like there’s a divide in the writers’ room between who likes wyndolls(+dolls) and who likes wyndoc(+doc) bc its just.......one or the other whenever either make an appearance. like i feel like when an episode is written by a person who prefers wyndoc, dolls barely makes an appearance or is mentioned maybe once, and vice versa lmao. i really wish they would make up their minds instead of having one wyndolls episode, then a wyndoc episode, then a wyndolls episode, ad infinitum. plus ya this season had way too much doc praise from everyone imo.................whoops
I know you don't hate doc but what makes me even more mad about him, is that he constantly makes mistakes and treated people like shit. Like how tf does he get away with this constantly??? Yet whenever Dolls makes a mistake it's the end of the world and he needs a talking to. I really don't know if I can carry on watching this I want them to pick a ship and just stick with it (hopefully wyndolls) because the whole triangle is convoluted as fuck and it's making me dislike the show.
i think doc has truly grown from who he was back before the well happened, but he still is an asshole and can be a shitty person (esp re: rosita lmao). i think he’s a flawed man and that’s... acceptable, but what i don’t find acceptable is that, like u said, he’s never called out on it. in order to deserve all the praise he got from every character this season, he really should have apologized to ppl abt things he’s said and done. 
lmao.......u know why dolls’s mistakes are treated more seriously and actually brought to his attention vs. doc’s mistakes.......You Know Why
I just wanna say thanks, it feels good to be able to rant like this, so many people treat this show likes it's perfect when it's extremely problematic at times. I'm fucking praying, like down on my knees praying that they don't carry on this romantic wynd*c bullshit in S3 and this love triangle because wyndolls is far superior and shit I think everyone knows it. I think a lot of the fandom is a lot more receptive to their relationship because it's so beautiful compared to that mess.
no probs im always here for u to rant to!!!!!
Coming from a hardcore wyndolls shipper this shit has really hit me hard. Trust me I know they're a fictional character and it's just a show but I've been through so many times of my fav characters (who happen to be POC) either getting sidelined or killed off and I'm not sure if I can deal with it anymore. And the person who I'm really upset for is shamier. Because shit man he deserves so much better. This has actually made me lose so much trust in the writers and I have no hope left for S3.
listen u don’t have to come here and justify why this has affected u so much to me, i understand completely. a lot of people (including me) cling really tightly to some fictional worlds & characters and when the creators fuck up it hurts. also ya shamier no doubt deserves better, tho im happy he’s out doing other things too, not just being wasted by wearp
I was just reading all your asks on the finale and I remembered wynonna telling doc that she never would've kissed dolls if she knew doc was back and I'm just like... what! That whole sentence just contradicts one of the main themes and relationships of S1. Listen I loved the moments that we got of wyndolls in S2 but this forced wynd*c relationship has me feeling so disappointed in the show. when S3 is back on I'm just gonna wait to see how dolls/wyndolls is treated before watching. I cba
rip i just had to look up what “cba” meant bc i thought maybe u ran out of characters and misspelled a word and i just never got the second message alkdfjalkdsalk
no really that so came out of left field bc like???? wynonna + dolls were being built up the entire first season, it was all leading to dolls admitting his feelings and them kissing. (remember when wyn dared dolls to admit that he cares for her?? and he couldn’t? so she called him a pussy and walked away???? then he finally did admit that he needs her in the finale? im crying) wynonna + doc was just them learning to trust each other and fucking in the forest that one time, there was nothing OVERTLY romantic abt their relationship compared to wyndolls. 
I just don't get how they expect me to believe that forced ass relationship. She literally looks at dolls like he's her whole world, and when he came back she looked so relieved and happy again. I hate love triangles in shows and this season especially has made me intensely dislike doc, especially after 2x03 with that whole "I ain't doing it for him" comment. And his treatment of Rosita and his actions during 2x06. I cannot deal with this shit and I really don't trust them anymore, not at all
oh ho hohoho boyyyyyy i forgot abt the “i aint doin it for him” which, first thing, is such BULLSHIT, doc cares abt dolls, it’s been established. anyway, im this whole ask,,,,,.
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hi again, yes about the interview in particular and if you have new thoughts on S2 (because i know you already wrote some predictions and problems that could occur) that would be great!!
Alright then.
So this trainwreck of an interview. This was a wild ride. Just when you think there is no possible way to be more disappointed with the YOI staff, we get this. After this interview, Yuri on Ice can’t claim praise over representation. It can’t.
I’m going to cover the points that I found more…distressing, let’s say. If there’s anything I don’t touch upon that people want me to comment on specifically, feel free to send me an ask. All the bolding in the quotes will be my doing for emphasis of certain points.
Let’s start with this really, really worrisome thing:
Regarding Yuuri and Victor’s scene after the FS, I was fine with it being interpreted in any way. However this is the part that had more response from overseas, I was even directly asked “which one it was”. And then I heard from Japanese people too that some had an argument with their friends over whether they kissed or not, or they just hugged. I was surprised that people would want to know the truth. Up until then I had always thought that people wanted to be able to interpret fiction how they preferred. But seeing the reactions that this episode received, I realized that even if it’s fiction, inside people’s mind this series exists as a world of its own and so they believe that there must be a correct truth, an exact answer somewhere.
First of all let me say that I am very glad there’s finally been mention of the Japanese fandom asking about the kiss or hug thing because I was getting very tired of the whole “lol silly westerners~” thing. That said…how is she surprised that people want to know? If she’s writing this story about two male characters being in a romantic relationship, especially amidst the sea of fanservice bait and toxic yaoi bs, people are going to want confirmation that these two characters did kiss! Mind you, I am team “it was a kiss” and have been since the episode aired, but it’s highly irresponsible of Kubo to just adopt this nonchalant attitude of “I’m fine with any interpretation.” She shouldn’t be fine! This to me says that she was never actually concerned at all with giving anyone representation. 
Victor is asked whether he would like to fight Yuuri as an athlete, but he really doesn’t think that. Actually many people were expecting to see Victor and Yuuri confront each other in a match eventually, however Yuuri is also “trying to win to prove Victor’s skating”. The director and I shared this same opinion when we wrote the series.
Yeah this one is just here for me to go, thanks for the further evidence that Victor was originally meant to retire! Miss me with that “Yuuri skates for Victor” thing though, Yuuri deserves better than that. 
Yurio’s FS is still incomplete, but I wanted to show how he was able to obtain a new strength and elegance thanks to the presence of Lilia, Yakov, his grandpa and JJ as a rival. I also depicted his aggressive side when he changes the composition of the program to win, and the fact that he still isn’t able to win against JJ, which is another trial that he needs to overcome.
This is here as an example of what I mean when I say that an author’s intentions are all well and good but the work needs to speak for itself. In this case, JJ was never a trial for Yurio to overcome. He was set up as such, but Yurio never actually had to win against him because JJ ended up self-destructing in the end.
In a meeting with the director I asked her a very basic question: “Why does Yuuri want to win?”, and she replied “Well, he has never won a gold medal so far, of course he wants to win!”. I thought that made sense. Yuuri, who has never won an international competition, wants to win a gold medal before retiring. The “origin” of his desire to win is in fact pretty simple. He has been able to work hard so far because he wants to win a gold medal and is confident that he is good enough to succeed. I inserted that monologue because, even though Yuuri might look weak, he actually has been fighting the whole time.
First of all WHAT? You’re the main writer of the series! You should know your main character’s motivations! How do you not know? How could you have been writing him without knowing it? That’s basic character building! Second of all, she apparently doesn’t know her own characters at all. Because Yuuri Katsuki is not confident! This is a character trait AND a plot point, that’s repeatedly mentioned by other characters and by Yuuri himself! W H A T?!
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I was told that the words “please take care of me until I retire” are actually something that real skaters say when they ask someone to be their coach. When I heard that, I thought that this was the perfect timing for Yuuri to tell Victor. At this time, Victor doesn’t take these words in the sense Yuuri really means, which is “until the end of this season”. He left Yuuri fighting alone in a tournament, so I think he was very torn about whether he should apologize and about what he should tell him when they met again. But then Yuuri told him “until I retire”, and I think Victor was probably really happy because it meant that Yuuri still needed him even when he was far away. Victor didn’t think that Yuuri would retire after the end of the GP Final, and he didn’t clearly decide until when he would continue being Yuuri’s coach, therefore I believe that he was happy to hear Yuuri’s feelings, to know that Yuuri too wanted him to be his coach until the end.
Absolutely no mention of Yuuri and Victor’s relationship being anything beyond that of coach and athlete, absolutely no mention of “that sounds like a marriage proposal”. 
What Yuuri bought is pair rings. When I looked it up I found out that buying a pair was cheaper (LOL), and I also thought that if they were going to wear something matching this would be good. There are actually many real skaters who wear accessories as “omamori”, protective charms. More importantly, Yuuri has been giving Victor fresh surprises until now, and I wanted him to get a new item, a weapon to fight in the final match. When I suggested the rings to the director she was like “Yes, that!!” (LOL). We were like, “yeah, a cornered athlete would do something like that!” More than implicating something like a wedding, it’s similar to members of the same circle deciding to have a matching item.
I AM LAUGHING AND CRYING GUYS! LAUGHING AND CRYING!
Platonic! Wedding rings!
But wait wait! It gets worse! Because we have this to top it off!
Victor is surprised by Yuuri’s action but understands him, so he makes a wish upon the ring telling him “show me the skating that you like the most”. In the China tournament he said things as if he was testing Yuuri, he “broke” his heart, so here he finally vows to the ring that “he will completely trust what Yuuri decides” and is determined to do what he can as a coach.
That entire scene was a platonic scene between coach and athlete, it’s what this is saying. It was never meant to be a proposal on Yuuri’s part! So there actually was no canon Victuuri proposal. Victor announcing they are engaged is not a proposal, it’s an announcement. One that Yuuri doesn’t even confirm. And then it’s never brought up again. ARE THEY EVEN ENGAGED?!
Platonic wedding rings! How do you pick wedding rings as a platonic symbol for your characters to share?! Remember how people joked about the rings being platonic because people still didn’t see Victuuri as canon? Those ‘just a bro buying wedding rings to another bro’ things? Well Kubo says they are platonic! Canonically platonic wedding rings! This is even better than #trancendental 
There’s also a moment where Yurio thought Victor was smirking looking at the ring. Like Yurio says in this scene, people tend to believe that athletes “die as competitors” when they stop and “become stable”. But I think that Victor, more than anyone else, is sensitive to this topic and is worried that people will say that about him, or that he will actually become like that. In this scene Victor wasn’t smirking, he was starting to think about his future.
Pray for Victor’s lost characterization. He’s truly dead.
Yuuri makes an attempt at adding a quadruple flip in his SP, but actually in the beginning I wasn’t planning to have him jump so many quads. The increasing level of real life competitions prompted me to add a realistic feeling by showing how you can’t win if you don’t have multiple quads in your programs. The reason Victor jumps a quad flip together with Yuuri during his performance is, more than something he does as a coach, something that comes from his feelings as an athlete.
The flip means absolutely nothing for how Victor feels about Yuuri. Nothing.
The reason Yurio could pull off his best performance is that many elements like his experience and the environment surrounding him all blended together perfectly right at this time. From an external point of view young and strong athletes somehow tend to look like they are “destined to win”, like they are performing a program prepared to win. However, every single second of their performance is the result of their efforts. I wanted to show this with Yurio’s SP.
Gonna quote @soobaki on this one “maybe bc theyre literally always the protag in every other series and yoi was supposed to subvert that but then didn”. If you wanted Yurio to be the protagonist so badly, you should have just made him the protagonist from the get-go. 
When Victor is watching Yurio’s performance we cannot see his expression because I myself haven’t decided what the truth is, like whether he is frustrated because Yurio beat his record, or he wants to surpass him again, or what else.
Lady. LADY! L A D Y!!! You! Are! The! Writer! If you don’t know, who knows???
In the end I’m really portraying every character thinking that I want them to win, and especially in JJ’s case, he has a power that makes you want him to win.
JJ won bronze because author favoritism. There. It’s explained now. Honestly, read the way she talks about JJ in the entire interview. At this point I’m sure she likes him more than Yuuri. Hell, at this point I don’t think she likes Yuuri that much.
I could touch upon every single point of episode 12 believe me, but here’s my top offenders.
What Victor told Yuuri right before he starts is performance, more than something that he really thinks deep down, is what he came up with when thinking about what could encourage Yuuri Katsuki the most, so basically it’s “Victor playing the role of Victor as Yuuri expects him”.
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I have no words.
No, wait, I have many words. Starting with, what the hell? So…I really dislike that scene. I think I made my feelings for that scene obvious. This just makes that scene worst. So Yuuri tells Victor to be true to himself and Victor…acts. He’s not being sincere. Victor goes back to playing a role, the role he thinks Yuuri wants him to play. This is utterly heartbreaking. And really unhealthy as far as their relationship goes! There is not positive way of reading this. 
Regarding the scene where Victor hugs Yurio before the competition, he didn’t do it because he was begging for his help to stop Yuuri from retiring, or because he was asking him something. He just wanted Yurio to skate at his best, it was his genuine feelings of support for him, as if he was saying “go and do your best!”. After all, until this scene we never really saw Victor support Yurio. It’s an action that cannot be explained with logic. 
Ok well, you didn’t convey that, did you? Some basic scene set-up and character acting was sorely missing from that scene. Still, RIP manipulative!Victor theory. Small blessings.
That said, here’s Kubo forgetting her own canon again. We never saw Victor support Yurio until this scene? You sure?
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Are you really sure about that?
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She also keeps saying that certain character’s actions or thoughts or feelings “can’t be explained through logic” and all I have to say about that is this: cheap excuse. You’re the writer, you should know how to explain your characters.
The selfish decision ultimately taken by the selfish Yuuri Katsuki was to continue competitive skating. I think there were many reasons that led to this conclusion. Not only what Victor gave him, but Yurio’s performance in the FS also managed to pull Yuuri back to the ice, and maybe he was influenced by the other athletes’ performances too. 
Yuuri Katsuki? Selfish?! Yuuri who spent most of the series thinking about people other than himself? Yuuri who had a mental breakdown over the idea that he was keeping Victor from happiness? Yuuri who had “accepting and admitting to his desires” as part of his character arc? Yuuri who had to be pushed by other to do the things he wanted for himself? Ok so she clearly doesn’t know her characters.
She “thinks” there are many reasons that led to the conclusion of Yuuri continuing to compete? Please enlighten us. Other than “we wanted a s2 and didn’t know how else to pitch it, also give us your money”, what other many reasons were there? Narratively, I’m pretty sure not even Kubo knows, considering the “MAYBE he was influences by the other athletes’ performances too”. 
This interview guys. I’m pretty sure it shortened my life span. Character derailment, retcons, continuing to insist on the at this point blatant lie that the finale was planned from the start (I would still be furious about it, but I would respect the staff so much more if they admitted they changed it at the last minute), and still no confirmation of a romantic relationship between Yuuri and Victor, on the contrary. I don’t really have new thoughts about s2, other than the fact that it’s not looking great. Not looking great.
Platonic wedding rings.
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