#especially because ot3s involving jm and jm endgame are much rarer
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Tbh the thing is I really do love 99% of Jonships it’s just that
I hate j.mart and
95% of things made for non-JE jonships are made by Eliashaters which almost always leads to a flattening of his character (and. Generally doesn’t bode super well for the other characters either…)
And so basically the only habitable corner of the fandom is JE. JE also has it’s share of Eliashaters but most of them are kind enough to announce it immediately so I can avoid them. It also has a good share of Martinenjoyers but to a lesser extent so it’s at least bearable (and also I feel like most Martinhaters drift towards JE lmao).
#look. am i enough of a snob to say that if you hate elias you can’t understand him or the podcast…..?#no. i’m not quite that pretentious lmao#but just about every time i see someone who ardently no nuance 100% despises him it’s someone whose analysis of him is#‘he’s a capitalist >:((((((‘ based on like nothing.#like. you know you can hate him for things he does and says in the podcast right?#he traumatized multiple employees on camera. he turned jon into an avatar against his will. he ended the world#it’s fine you don’t even need to make shit up about him he did a bunch of evil things you can be mad at him for#you don’t even need those as a reason!! you can just hate his vibe!!!!#granted i won’t understand you but like. he’s not real. you don’t need a reason. it’s ok.#anyway it sucks cause i think lots of jonships have the potential to be Interesting As Hell and Lots Of Fun#but it really is a chore to sift through all the stuff i dislike lol#also tbh je is just. way more popular??#nowhere near j.mart levels but still leaps and bounds ahead of everything else#especially because ot3s involving jm and jm endgame are much rarer
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