#eastern state worse than auburn prison in ny where they just worked and beat the inmates. so
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do you ever think about how the quakers (famously pacifist, chill) were like the first people to try to make prisons reformatory instead of just like brute physical punishment. but instead accidentally carried out some of the most sustained psychological torture imaginable. yeah guys quiet self reflection in total isolation can be good for you in small doses. probably not that great if done for 10 years at a time
#and i do actually believe that they did not mean to straight up torture people. but they did so badly that people called#eastern state worse than auburn prison in ny where they just worked and beat the inmates. so#the quakers are just really big on self reflection. too much of a good thing i guess
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