#don't worry he's not dead he's just pining for the fjords
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dandorime · 9 months ago
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Juniper: Yeah, that's right! I didn't! I should totally be alive right now! ୧(๑•̀ᗝ•́)૭
Phoenix: ...except the whole building blew up afterward. ...(-᷅_-᷄;)
Juniper: So what? You survived it! ৻(•̀ ᗝ•́ ৻)
Phoenix: Only because the elevator was an escape pod in disguise. (•᷄‎ࡇ•᷅;)
Juniper: ...(•̯́ ^ •̯̀)
Phoenix: ...I'm sorry, buddy. (-_-)
Juniper: I don't wanna be deaaaaaaaad ˚‧º·(˚˃̣̣̥᷄⌓˂̣̣̥᷅)‧º·˚
I'm being a smartass rn, but Juniper didn't fall 32 stories-
He got electrocuted in the face and hurtled down into an exploding building, I wouldn't be surprised if he got buried by rubble or burnt to death, but like- I see this argument that the fall is 32 stories and nobody could survive that and that's simply incorrect
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When looking at the blueprint alone we see that this building has a normal building on the bottom, it's not empty space down to the ground floor.
If we assume that every opening that we go up past at the end of Rising Phoenix is "floor level" then from the prison the heads of state are in to Juniper on the catwalk there's only 6 floors. That's still a massive fall, but there's a HUGE difference between 6 stories and 32 stories. He's falling from 32-26 not 32-1
that's the difference between an 84 foot fall and a 448 foot fall. And that's assuming that he didn't hit anything on the way down. This is a kind of fucked up analogy, but my dad always told me that if you see a toddler falling from a skyscraper, you should try to catch it not because you'll actually catch the toddler, but because you giving the toddler another point of impact before it hits the ground give it a better chance of surviving because you slowed them and diffused some of the force.
So if he hit anything on the way down, the missile, a bit of railing from one of the other floors, anything on the way down, that impact would have been multiple small impacts rather than one big hit on the ground floor. On top of this, after the electrocution we see that he falls backwards, laying horizontal rather than a directly vertical drop.
This too helps in multiple ways, firstly falling with your body horizontal slows your descent and once again adds to your chances of survival and having the impact spread across your whole body rather than one point like your head or your feet also helps.
This is all to say, I know that Schell likely plans on keeping JJ dead, but if you're gonna argue that someone's stupid for holding out hope at least make sure you don't use "he fell 32 stories" as the focal point of your argument. Use the fact that he got electrocuted to the face and was laying on a metal grate in a collapsing building that was actively exploding if you wanna say someone's stupid for hoping he comes back.
and like if Ulanova can survive getting shot, Prism can survive a helicopter crash, Caliente can survive his bee allergy at the hands of hundreds of thousands of bees, and Solaris can survive a fall from space I don't know why Juniper surviving Peace Keeper is so unfathomable, this franchise loves fakeout deaths, but that's a whole other thing.
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