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frogeyedape · 9 months ago

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I think I needed to reread the first bit, actually. I'm unfamiliar with any meme where that phrase is used (yay for not having that shit on my dash, boo for lack of instant recognition of vile tripe). I zeroed in on the much more generic "'The Past' is better than today" and mistook that idea of "we must return to the Golden Age" for the central theme ie not the actual literal nazi slogan that I can add to my "strongly side eye anyone who says this once, suspect nefarious ideologies if they say it again" book. So, having reread the beginning: yes, saying an actual literal nazi slogan in whatever tone except (as you did) to address it's existence/use/harms is at best highly suspect and at worst an outright admission of nazi beliefs. To be absolutely clear, I'm explicitly against "jokes" and "irony" (not actually joking or being ironic) on such subjects ^^ up there.

"reject modernity embrace tradition" isn't even a dogwhistle it's literally just saying regressive ideology directly. how does anyone not get this

#in keeping with the theme of my blog - tangents on tangents - i stand by saying not all ironic mimicry is “ironic” mimicry #sometimes bitterly saying as if quoting an enemy [things the enemy would say] is a cathartic release / actually shared mockery of the enemy #“joking” (saying it in a joking tone even though you really believe it and ironic mimicry (mocking what your opponent who isn't there would #say by saying it for them all the better to express disgust at it) are different and bringing ironic mimcry into it was more of a tangent #than I'd intended. so I'm sorry for my misunderstanding and poor focus #“joking” about evil shit and ideologies is not good #discussing viewpoints you oppose does occasionally require knowing/repeating what your opponent says so as to oppose it better...#ugh how many tangents in these tags? too many. adieu and peace be with you #for better and for worse i maintain the belief that all people are people and therefore even people who say/believe the worst things can #still do something good. evil actions not evil people. the people can change. i want them to change

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