#digimon could show up in kh.* lol
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Has anyone talked about the fact that Disney apparently started airing Pokémon (though I don't know if it was in the U.S. or somewhere else or both, but I feel that really doesn't matter to what I'm about to say here)--I've seen their logo in some of the clips MatPat has used in his Pokémon theory videos--which could mean that Pokémon stuff could show up in Kingdom Hearts?
I mean, realistically this won't happen because it would probably be a licensing nightmare. But we can all dream.
#we could definitely have digimon though. which i am all for#speaking of... i really need to start watching digimon again#i'm also tempted to get caught up on the pokemon episodes i've missed and try to be there when the series (with ash) ends.#but lol. i feel that's a pipe dream as there are way too many episodes for me to realistically do that#i don't know... but even if i don't get caught up in time maybe i should just watch all the episodes. i mean. for years i've kind of wanted#to get caught up#back to digimon *remembers shire folk's kingdom hearts fanfictions where he gave the kh characters digimon. because he long ago realized#digimon could show up in kh.* lol
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Man, god, im just suddenly thinking about "ak/ur/oku" and like.. How the fuck did that even become such a huge thing in early 2000s fandom? Dear god so much early gay shipping in fandom was super unhealthy "sinful" bullshit made by straight people for fetishy purposes rather than genuine representation. But a/kurok/u was such a weird one because it was like.. Just globally accepted and never aknowledged to be problematic?? Man i still remember how lil 13 year old me didnt know there was anything wrong with it, like seriously when stuff like this becomes popularized it ends up sending bad messages to actual queer youth. Learning about your sexuality via the internet cos there's no sex ed irl for you, abd you end up stumbling into toxic fandoms before you have the critical thinking skills necessary to know that this stuff is bad and shouldnt be imitated. Like seriously one of the things i worry about EVERY NIGHT AT 2AM THAT KEEPS ME FROM SLEEPING is that stupid lil 15 year old me made a post on deviantart going like "are pedophiles really all bad? I mean it sounds like an illness. I mean maybe theyre just scared and they want help." Like im terrified constantly that someone will find that old thing and judge me as if i still believe that apologist crap, or as if it was actually an opinion i formed from a fully developed mind, rather than from a kid who (as far as i knew) had never met a pedophile, thinking about pedophiles in the abstract, while being influenced by fuckin pedophile-dominated fandoms and having NO IDEA. and of cooooourse i wanted to believe that i was mature for my age, i thought that was a compliment.. Uuuuugh...
Sorry, going a little offtopic there.
But anyway isnt it kinda weird how akur/oku was just.. Not even regarded as pedophilia? And when i was a kid it wasnt just me not understanding the gross parts of the fandom, i legit never thought axel was that much older than roxas. And it was one of the more popular gay ships cos at that point as far as we knew it was the only person axel had any sort of backstory with, and he cared so much about this guy that he was willing to sacrifice his life to help sora even when he knew roxas would never come back. At the time without further context it seemed like a reasonable assumption to make? And it wasnt until Days that i realized axel was intended to be an adult rather than a teenager, and even worse A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MADE THAT SHIPPING ART KNEW THAT. Uuugh it was so gross in retrospect to go back and see all the clues i missed that these people were fetishizing roxas's inexperience and veey much writing him as underage. AAAAAAA!
Anyway im glad that shit is now recognized as shit and now we have canon evidence of this dude being old as balls. And honestly i love the relationship of him as a big brother/dad to roxas and xion a lot more, even though as a kid i was desperate for any kind of queer representation in kh. Like.. I never really actually liked the ship that much or felt any chemistry? I just latched onto a few bad writing flubs that could potentially be interpreted as Gay Evidence because i was SO damn desperate! Like i felt like i had to support all these gross abusive ships in fandom cos if i wasnt then i was being 'homophobic', i mean they were THE ONLY AVAILABLE OPTIONS, right? :( Its only now ive grown up i can see how wrong that was, and how people just used it as an excuse to make gross shit and get away with it. Like how in Black Butler all these 'yaoi fangirls' kept erasing the rarest of rare things, a canon trans woman, because 'its sexier if its gay'. Ughhhh. And seriously that discourse still exists for poor Grell, and there's still a lot of these shitty bigoted people pretending to be allies, but like seriously this was EVERYWHERE in 2005! And lgbt rights and even lgbt communities at all were way smaller and less available to the poor teenagers who really needed that positive influence while they were figuring out who they are. So man the abusive side of yaoi fandom was WAY more powerful, and wya more.mainstream, with barely any criticism. And the whole content of this fandom was creepy fuckin adults making pedo porn, and kids who just discovered they were queer and tried to headcanon their favourote characters as being like them. Fucking predator heaven! So yeh that ruined KH for me and definately made me scared of returning to Black Butler for almost a decade. And then i found out that the manga itself has none of that pedo shit and that one of the fandom's biggest abusive gay man archetypes was actually a trans woman this entire time, and just gahhhhh....
Also like seriously this is a tad offtopic but can we kill the anime trope of either everyone looking young or everyone looking old? Or creepy things where just one character looks the wrong age in order to fetishize pedophilia? I dont think kingdom hearts was one of those intentional ones, like i mean there's super bad shit where its like 'this 5 year old looking person is really 9000 years old/actually 18 and just hasnt had their growth spurt yet' (somehow its even more insulting when theres not even a magical excuse) Or the other way around and we have a character thats canonically underage but drawn looking sexually mature with big ol knockers so its somehow okay. The existence of those horrible things is why i end up feeling uncomfortable even seeing ambiguous ages as just a trope in completely innocent anime, yknow? Like in pokemon and digimon all the 10 year old protagonists are exactly the same height as all the adults, and all the female love interests for ash have to be early bloomers in terms of chest and hips, while notably Iris is the only one who actually looks her age and also the first non love interest. Its another reason why i prefer the new art style for the latest season, they make everyone look like kids and Lillie continues to look like a kid even though she's the main girl and has all the cute scenes with Ash. The girls even got very normal looking kiddy swimsuits in the beach episode! Why is that so uncommon, to find the bare minimum thing of underage kids not being sexualized at the beach??
Soooooo yeah, thats at least part of why kid me thought axel and roxas were within a similar age range. Like i thought roxas was maybe 16 and axel was 18?? Somehow?? I dont even know, kingdom hearts isnt even SUPER bad with the 'kids look like older teens,all adults look like age 20 at the most' anime syndrome. Its probably more because id been raised on games and anime that followed that trope, before i played kh. And as a kid you just dont really know the exact differences between 'old', like i mean i knew teenagers were tall and boys get a growth spurt, so somehow it made sense to me that axel could be the same age as roxas?? And man even if i knew he wasnt, i was barely educated at all about pedophilia and i didnt know the nuances of it. I just knew 'its bad for adults to marry kids' like man i was really behind the curve in general learning due to my undiagnosed autism and abusive parenting so like HERE'S 12 YEAR OLD ME NOT EVEN THINKING ABOUT THE SEX ASPECT. And i didnt know that adults in relationships with teenagers was bad too, or like 16/17 year old teens dating kids... I was so fuckin dumb... I really cant believe that not only did i believe stupid adults saying 'pedophilia isnt bad if you're non offending, its okay to make cartoon child porn as long as you dont physically abuse real kids' but also i somehow just DID NOT EVER REALIZE that axel was an adult and roxas wasnt even a goddamn older teen...
So yeh im making a lot of excuses for why my stupid younger self was blindly parroting bullshit, but im not trying to excuse how goddamn wrong and bad it was. I still wake up ashamed in the middle of the night for crapoy decisions i made as a dumb kid, and in terrified that some shreds of it might still exist out there on the internet and maybe someone else could read it?! Gahhhh! Seriously could i have accidentally helped spread that bullshit brainwashing to other kids? And seriously when people say this shit is harmless they just need to look at this, look at how being into problematic yaoi is such a common 'phase' for ACTUAL CHILDREN. Like its not fuckin NATURAL for kids to fall into this stuff, they do it because they dont know any better but the people making the goddamn founding blocks of the fandom are fuckin grown women fetishizing gay men or grown men fetishing lesbians. There's people who do know better who actually conciously decide that a/kurok/u is a good ship while knowing all the goddamn details of what it actually is and exactly what theyre supporting by shipping it. Ughhhhh!
So yeh fuckin Please Stay Safe In Fandom, Kids
And pedophiles have absolutely none of my sympathy, please ignore that goddamn shit i wrote as a little kid being fuckin groomed by a fandom without even knowing it.
This also applies a lot to the rest of LGBT+ aside from just gay shipping, like seriously it took me til age 18 to find any positive representation of trans people or even a proper explanation of what being trans is, yet before i was even 8 years old i'd seen a million 'lol gross man in a dress who gets sexual gratification from wearing women's underwear' jokes in kids shows. And when i was 12 i'd already been exposed to the fuckin hell of m/pre/g thanks to its prevelance of untagged n/sf/w shit in the kh fandom. And by age 15 i'd been exposed to pedophile apologists arguing whether child porn was okay if they only got off to that and didnt personally abuse that kid with their own hands. All of that shit but actually learning about homosexuality and gender in sex ed would have been 'too much' for someone my age...
God what a fuckin mess. Fuck im really really fuckin worried that any of my ignorant comments at those ages could have been read by other ignorant kids and contributed to that disgusting fandom atmosphere. Fuck i think about this so damn often im so damn ashamed of how ignorant i used to be yet i know the adult fuckfaces making pedo shit never reel one lick of shame any damn day of their life. I used to excuse their shit as an actual kid cos i just ASSUMED they would be ashamed and want to seek help! Gahhhh..
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Honestly everyone shares similar traits...
This little post I made was inspired by these arts:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/598fae55f449884392134c391abb3c8b/tumblr_pvgqn24Z8m1x2shy8o1_r5_1280.jpg
https://www.deviantart.com/yoruven/art/KH-cos-over-Digimon-Sora-and-Xion-285391073
And I know there are other arts out of there that share this crossover, (and it doesn’t help that two main characters share Sora as a name)
But beyond that small detail, I figured it would be fun to think about what crests the KH character might have.
Granted, I think everyone shares a bit of each crest’s characteristics especially Sora.
But beyond that here we go:
Sora
Now for this little cinnamon roll, I can tell you that it was rather hard what crest to give him, because with the exception of Knowledge he could piratically have any crest give what kind of character he is. And I will admit the Crest of Courage was really tempting, and it could be because of how courageous Sora really is, willing to go headfirst into battle and save his friends or anyone in need. He’s willing to put his own needs behind him to help others. Which also made him ideal for Reliability(Sincerity in the Japanese version),
and Crest of Sincerity(purity in Japanese)
because of his pure carefree nature also because how honest Sora is and how he always keeps his promises if he can help it. Light was also a good candidate but I think another character earned that crest. And so on, I can name every crest but we’ll be here all day if I did.
So in the end the crest I gave him was:
Friendship.
I mean I think it would be criminal if I didn’t give him the Crest of Friendship. This guy is the literal embodiment of Friendship. Cause as we all know it once you enter Sora’s friendship circle there’s no getting out of it. Also: “my friends are my power!”
But to be fair I think courage was a close second with Light and Miracles following up after. (But again, he’s good with any crest besides knowledge lol)
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Riku
Now Riku’s crest was... rather little tricky to figure out. Considering how many trials this guy went through in order to get where he is. And while I know people would be questioning why it’s not friendship because that was Matt’s crest and because of how Matt and Riku had the same personality in a sense. And I do agree with you, but I think the crest that matched him the best had to be:
Crest of Reliability.
I think more or less it also had to do with the fact that after Riku went through all that struggles, to me the Reliability aspect fit him well because he’s willing to go through thick and thin for his friends as well. He’s willing to die for Sora and Kairi and is always consider himself responsible for his actions after he fought the darkness within him. Chain of Memories is good example. He took on the role of being Sora’s protector as well not taking the easy route out when Naminé offered to alter his memories of his past with the darkness and getting rid of Ansem with it. Instead he took on the challenge and took over his past mistakes head on. And to me, that makes him as reliable as any person. (Also since the crest is also sincerity in Japanese, I think it also fit’s Riku because of how much he genuinely cares for his friends and is also a man of his word).
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Kairi
Let’s be real.
Her crest is Light.
She get’s the Crest of Light to represent her role as a princess of Heart, I think that was her biggest defining trait, and just how much of a pure-hearted character she truly is. And it’s been proven in the anime that the crest of Hope and Light were the strongest crests. Which also brings in the next crests that would fit her.
Hope and Love.
Hope because of how powerful that integral is, and Kairi has shown to simply hope and it always works for her. And love because of her feelings towards her friends. Though, the whole Princess of Heart really took over, so Light was obviously the best crest that described her the most.
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Roxas
Okay, so we finally get to the harder challenges.
Roxas was a character that took me a while to figure out, but I think in the end:
The Crest of Hope to me spoke the most for Roxas’ character. I think the thing that made me believe he has the Crest of Hope had to the amount of faith he had in his friends and how much resistance he had against Organization XIII (which are the team of Darkness in this case) it showed how powerful of a character he is. Also, it doesn’t help that Roxas’ power is “the light within the darkness.” (The hope that evil tries to cover)
The other Crest I was tempted to give him was the Crest of Destiny namely because he was dubbed the “Key of Destiny.” But I personally think hope fit the bill just a little more.
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Xion
Her’s was a little on the tricky side as well, but I think...
The Crest of Kindness held the best attribute to her. Xion is a sweet character who I personally think was misjudged from the start, and despite this when she begins to get her own identity she begins to show how much of caring and sweet character she is. (The manga made her especially kind and adorable!) And to me, the Crest of Kindness was pretty close to Light in a way, which sorta reflects Kairi as well. So I think this was a nice one to give her. I think the crest that came pretty close as well was Hope and Sincerity. Hope because of how much she thought to be with her friends for as long as possible and Sincerity because of how much of an honest character she was. But I think Kindness worked the best for her.
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Axel
Okay... this one might spark up a little debate, and I don’t blame you if you think otherwise... cause even I wasn’t sure about this one either:
Courage.
Now I know what some of you are thinking. How is he the Crest of Courage? Well one, it represents fire, that’s a given. But I think this crests represents his actions in general rather than his personality. Sorta like Kairi, while Light may not necessarily be the whole picture of Kairi’s character, but I think the crest also can represent the effect on the person as a whole.
And I think what Axel did does represent courage as a whole. More or less starting the second he left the organization. And sure it could be considered a bit cowardly since he didn’t leave at first, but afterwards when Roxas disappeared it made him realized that, and he left the group entirely. Sure he went into hiding, but in the end he didn’t think twice to help the trinity trio and help fight against the Dusks, and later on saving Even going as far as saving Sora and becoming a Keyblade Wielder to help fight against the true Organization XIII in KH3, and facing Xenmas (granted, not ending too well) but he showed no fear to him even as he was essentially dying.
The only other crest I think would suite him were Sincerity and Friendship, perhaps even Love .
I’m not too 100 percent with Courage, so if you disagree with me on this, I totally get you on it.
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Aqua
Oh boy... she was a bit of doozy to figure out what crest matched her the best. But in the end,
The Crest of Love had the most impact for her character.
The second being Friendship, but let’s be real Sora earned that one by a long shot lol
But I think Love held a similar effect and honestly to me it fits Aqua more as a character because of the love for her friends. Now I think I know what some of you readers are thinking. But isn’t love for something romantic. And while yes, that’s true, but there are different kinds of Love. Take Digimon Sora for instance, her Crest of Love activated for her loving and caring nature for Biomon, which allowed her to evolve. I don’t think Sora loved Biomon in a romantic sense for the crest to activate.
The same is for Aqua since, she is already a self-sacrificing character and is willing to so anything for her friends. Going as far as making sure Ven was safe before going to search for Terra and even letting her take his place in entering the realm of Darkness instead. And the whole opening in Fragmentary Passage, shows her trying to fight for her friends and trying to save them no matter what happens to her.
To me Aqua is one of the most strongest characters in KH and I think Love is huge aspect to her character and thus I believe she get’s the Crest of Love.
*Though Knowledge was considered, since she’s a really smart character herself.
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Ventus
Ima straight out, he was one of the easiest characters to think which would go, cause the first that came to mind was:
The Crest of Sincerity
And no. Not just because his Wayfinder is green.
But I personally think Sincerity was the best crest for our little bundle of Joy namely because I think Ventus was one of the most earnest and purest characters in the series as whole (not including the Disney or Final Fantasy characters). He’s a boy with a pure heart who wanted nothing more to make friends and find his older brother, Terra.
I think more or less the way how he saw both Aqua and Terra was basically family to him and he wanted nothing more than for both of them to be happy and safe. And I think his actions were genuine and caring. The crest I felt suited him was Destiny and Friendship, but in this case I don’t think Destiny had much to offer since it wasn’t revealed until towards the end what happened and what master Xehanort wanted to do. And because of this, he knew that both Terra and Aqua were going to get hurt because of him, so he knew that if anything were to happen he asked them to put an end to him. I’ve never seen him be so serious and sincere during his entire story arc than that moment right then and there.
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Terra
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Okay... I will admit it, Terra was the hardest character to classify him as to what crest he would get.
It really was, I had been theorizing, debating and overall looking up information to know what kind of character he is and what are the traits to the overall Digi Destine Crests. Because of this I had to extend to the extra two crests:
Crest of Miracles
Crest of Destiny
And while Crest of Courage was close, I think Axel won that spot (though it’s very subject to change tbh)
So the only one I thought would fit Terra the most was:
Crest of Destiny
The biggest reason was because it was a big factor to his arc. Terra has been presumed to already have this “fate” that his story was going to go down as Xehanort would control and take over his body. Terra was doomed to be in this Destiny.
And Terra has shown to be rather resilient but at the same time vulnerable. Since his failure in the Mark of Mastery exam, he wanted nothing more than to prove to everyone that has what it takes. Jokes aside, I do believe Terra wanted to create his own Destiny by his own hands. Show that he can do things on his own and prove to Master Eraqus that he too can become a master like Aqua. Like his father.
But other than that I do think Crest of Courage would be the next one, because he stood firm in what he believed in and was willing to face his master, his father to protect his little brother at all costs.
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BONUS!
Now there’s a limit amount of Crests to give everyone, so I will repeat some because I believe this characters can get these crests as well if given the AU chance.
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Naminé
While she may be a part of Kairi, I do believe her to be her own character with her own thoughts and morals. And to me the:
Crest of Sincerity fit her bill the best. She’s kind and honest with her words, while yes she did essentially lie to Sora, however that wasn’t out of her free will. She was forced to do it because of the rebellious Organization members. And when it came down to it, she did what was right, even if it meant she would be hurt or killed.
She was honest to Sora and Riku in the end and did everything she could to help Xion and Roxas despite what others told or forced her to do.
Otherwise I think the crest of Kindness would also work for her
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Vanitas
Oh boy, this guy is also a doozy to figure what crest would fit him. Especially concerning his dark sadistic nature.
But I think by the end of the day...
The Crest of Destiny
Similar reason to Terra, because from the start he’s already been created for the sole reason to do what Xehanort wanted. The X-blade. And to me, we never really got to see much of another reason for Vanitas sticking around and be the lovable jerk that he is. Other than that he wants to fuse with Ven again, I never really saw much more that his charisma.
But because of that, great personality or not, there’s not much I can offer beyond since the Crests are representative of good and “light”
So giving him another crest wasn’t exactly too easy.
Also the crest is gold, like his eyes lol
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Replica Riku
Or Repliku as many fans like to name him. I believe he earned a spot on this list, he may be a copy but in a way I still like to consider him as a separate character with an altered personality.
Believe it or not, but I think Crest of Love could fit him.
This may be, or not be because of KH3. How he sacrificed himself to save Riku and Naminé. I wouldn’t doubt (regardless it was because of how Naminé was forced to alter his memories) he really did care a great deal for her. Giving up the possibility of getting a body of his own to save Naminé.
Whether he loved her as a friend, or something more, (that’s completely up to the perspective). But in the end he paid the price for her, and even cared enough to help Riku with his own struggles. It may have cost him his life, but to him... it was worth it
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Saïx/Isa
Yes.
I’m adding our cynical blue haired lovable a-hole here.
Namely KH3 inspired me to add him, that and I saw a picture where someone put the trios as squads instead and Saïx was also added in.
And I totally support it. So he’s here whether you guys like it or not lol
But beyond that detail...
Knowledge
Finally someone who got the Crest of Knowledge!
While I do know the Crest of Sincerity might be a close second because I never saw Saïx as a liar. Even when he was a bad guy he never lied on screen. Sure he may have manipulated the situation during his time as Saïx in the Organization he’s never really told a lie.
But at the same time I think Knowledge fits him the best because of how practical smart he was. Sure he was a fierce combatant in battle (I’m sure Sora and Roxas can back that statement up). But I don’t think he got a rank so high up and get promoted by Xenmas as second in command because he was just strong, otherwise that would’ve been given to Lexaeus considering the ax he carries around and his element is earth. He was pretty paitent and even helped Vexen sneak around helping the others in KH3
(cause I can’t imagine another character wanting to help bring Roxas back and to “atone” for his mistakes) And the way how Demyx reacted sure indicated whoever was this “guilty person” is had to be the last person to wanna go against the organization. Especially since this “he was one of the chosen.”
And to be able to do that, it must take not only a lot of guts (maybe it should be courage instead) or incredibly smart to accomplish that without being caught.
Otherwise the only KH characters that comes close to the Crest of Knowledge is Zexion/Ienzo and Vexen/Even and Ansem the Wise, Yen Sid... —
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Okay. Maybe a LOT of characters... but you get the gif
Well that’s pretty much it for now, hope you guys enjoyed this
Also Crest of Sincerity really went around in this one
#Kingdom Hearts#KH#Digimon#digidestine crests#Sora#Riku#Kairi#Roxas#Xion#Axel#Aqua#Ventus#Terra#Naminé#Vanitas#Repliku#replica Riku#saix/isa
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