#dear fans Jason can be insane at times but to him he needed to prove something to both himself and Tim during this
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I’d like to clear up some common misconceptions about the Attack on Titan Tower, aka when Jason infiltrated it to attack Tim
If you want to read this for yourself, here are some links: readallcomics - I have the best luck with this site on destop zipcomic readcomicsonline - this site can be temperamental
1) Jason did not go there to attempt to kill Tim
Jason seems to have 3 separate goals for this: - size up the new kid. - make sure he knows Bruce just sees him as another soldier - prove to Tim just how dangerous the job is (heavily implied, in my opinion, especially after Tim tried telling Jason he was wrong about how Bruce saw him) He also voiced his anger over being forgotten by everyone. Depending on your interpretation of Jason and his character, this could also be a reason. To me, this feels more like an afterthought because they moved to the Hall of Fallen Heroes before he said this, and Jason likes to be dramatic.
Side note on this. Jason never says anything about being replaced.
2) none of Tim’s injuries were life threatening
Once again, Jason was not attempting to kill him. He beat him up pretty badly, but it was designed to prove a point
3) Jason did NOT cut Tim’s throat.
That happened during Hush which predates both Under the Red Hood and Titan’s Tower. Jason was pretending to be Hush, put a knife to Tim’s throat, and put enough pressure to make him bleed (it was not an actual slice) to get Bruce to react to him. That injury was not life threatening either
4) Jason developed a respect and a bit of envy for Tim after fighting him
At the end of the issue while he’s leaving (while outside the tower), Jason acknowledges Tim’s skill. Jason also wonders if he could have had a life more similar to his, where he had friends and a better support system, if he could have had a different life.
5) Tim was NOT a damsel in distress during the fight, and he did NOT develop a fear of Jason.
Tim was making quips and dissing Jason the entire fight. Tim was not afraid of him nor did he bat an eye at being attacked by Jason. He also vocalized just how much he had to work for his cape because of how Jason's death affected Bruce
Also, the next time Tim saw Jason after this, he made sure to kick Jason in the groin
6) Jason wrote "Jason Todd was here" and signed it with a hand print on the wall.
It looks like it could be in blood, but Tim's not injured enough for there to be that much... and blood darkens after a while. There's a bit of time between Tim getting knocked out and the rest of the Titans finding him and the writing so it's probably paint. Again, Jason likes to be dramatic
7) more Robin!Jason slander by Raven
Once again, we get the mention that Jason was "aggressive". I swear, this is the only thing writers remember from Death in the Family and not the point that that behavior was out of the ordinary for Jason. This is a personal pet peeve of mine in the comics.
8) almost forgot to add the most important part, Jason made a homemade Robin costume and wore it under his Red Hood outfit because he could
Again, Jason is a dramatic bitch.
#jason todd#red hood#dc comics#Tim Drake#dc robin#Attack on Titans Tower#As much as I do like enemy to caregiver fics I feel like we need to clear the air a bit regarding this specific event#dear fans Jason can be insane at times but to him he needed to prove something to both himself and Tim during this#killing was not on the table here#I love Jason as a character#but he is a dramatic bitch#he's also has some of the most wildly different characterizations out of the Batfam
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Halloween Special continues!
Hello there, some people were requesting me to continue with the story so I Kept trucking on! I’m also dying from this hiatus so this has been a decent enough fix for me. Hopefully it is for you too! :)
I just added chapter 4, but you can see the whole fic here x
Chapter 4
Giggling away Jughead and Betty walked hand in hand back to the party, feeling a lot better after their little rendezvous. Betty was practically skipping back to the party and her smile was so pure and happy that it even made Jughead smile.
Betty was in her own world, completely unaware and uncaring of the world around her, and she couldn’t be happier. There was something about Jughead that just brought upon this unfiltered bliss and she was sure that she would never let go of something so pure and right. Him being by her side, supporting her, loving her, appreciating her. It was all she’s ever wanted and she found it in the most unlikeliest of places. Although it brought Polly so much pain and sadness, somewhere deep down in a place she would never openly admit, she was sort of glad the Jason’s death was able to bring them together.
She suddenly stopped and turned abruptly to face her other half and planted a hasty kiss on his lips. The kiss was so quick that it was over before he could even respond.
“You know how much I love you right?” Betty asked as she gazed into his bright blue eyes.
Taken aback but her sudden change in mood he replied cautiously with a “Yes….” His eyebrow was raised and he looked completely and utterly confused. She loved that about him as well. He was always so open with his emotions around her, she rarely had to guess what he was thinking or feeling because he didn’t need to keep his guard up around her.
“I love you too” He continued, and she knew that although it was true, he was only saying it because he had no idea what was going on and he felt like he needed to cover his bases. The idea made her laugh.
Her laughter only further confusing him, he decided to stay quiet until he could get a clue as to what she was feeling. It wasn’t unusual for Betty to just blurt out her feelings to him (she did it often and it was normally really adorable), but she seemed so desperate to tell him, it worried him for a bit. He didn’t like it when he couldn’t read what she was feeling. It always put him on edge. And he was supposed to be the enigma. Ha.
After a few seconds of laughing, she finally put him out of his misery. “Sorry Juggie, I was just thinking about how happy you make me and felt the need to show it.” She was all smiles, still giggling as she answered his unspoken question.
He visibly relaxed realizing that Betty was just being Betty, and grabbed a hold of her waist as they continued walking. “You make me crazy you know that? Absolutely insane.” There was no malice in his accusation, only love and adoration. She just smiled up at him and replied simply “Ditto.”
The party was still in full swing, obviously not missing a beat at the couple’s departure. As they made their way to the punch bowl and each got a drink, they decided to go hunting for their friends again.
“THERE YOU ARE!” They whipped their heads around to the yell and saw Veronica heading towards them.
“B where have you been?! The night is young and we still have plenty of dancing to do! C'mon the gang is in the middle” Veronica said as she grabbed Betty’s wrist and dragged her to their friends. Betty managed to latch onto Jughead’s wrist to make him follow her before she was launched into the crowd.
After a bit of pushing a shoving, she was reunited with the rest of her friends. Kevin, Cheryl, Archie, Veronica, and even Reggie and the Pussycats had joined their dance circle. Reggie looked great with his Dracula costume and the Pussycats, who normally were always matching, had surprisingly different costumes. Josie looked flawless in her Cleopatra costume, while Valerie looked like she would fit right in with her head to toe 60’s hippie gear, and Melody looked like a fierce (but so adorable) lion tamer.
The group greeted the newcomers and went back to their dancing, not another care in the world. Betty was dancing along to the beat, but she felt something missing. She looked behind her and noticed that her clown prince was just standing behind her, not really moving or swaying to the music at all, calmly drinking his punch. He would have looked ridiculous, but the costume was actually working in his favor she deemed. The whole brooding and pensive look just made it seem like he was plotting his next attack on Gotham.
He seemed so out of place in the midst of the teenage dancing machines, and thankfully he didn’t seem to mind all that much. Even before they started dating, Jughead would still attend the school dances if food was being served. He would hang around his small circle of friends or the snack table until he had his fill and headed home. But this time was very different since they were here together, so she wanted to dance together as well.
She gave him a pout, attempting to convey in such a small action that she wanted to dance with him. He smiled sardonically at the action and slowly shook his head no.
She turned to face him fully and leaned into his ear to try and be as private as possible, but before she could say anything he quickly said “Your feminine wiles are no match for my desire for self-preservation. No way I’m dancing in front of everyone here.”
He backed away from her with an arrogant smirk believing he had just beaten the notorious Betty Cooper. But he was wrong. So very, very wrong. In his efforts to stop her from asking him to dance (he didn’t think he could refuse if she actually asked) he forgot one little thing about his dear puddin. Betty Cooper loved a challenge, and even more so, she loved proving people wrong.
His arrogant smile left as quickly as it came when he saw the fire in her eyes. He was in trouble. He had no idea what she was cooking up, but it never meant anything good for him.
“Is that so?” She asked, the challenge slipping from her lips so seductively he nearly groaned at the sound.
“Bets, please…you know how I feel about dancing.” He pleaded as he held onto her arms. It was his only option at this point and he felt no shame begging this enticing (and usually very understanding) woman for mercy.
She looked like she was about to give in, but the spark was reignited at the sound of the new song and she was sure that he would succumb to her ‘feminine wiles’ as he dubbed them. Feeling uncharacteristically sexy and confident (only he seemed to make her feel that way), she sauntered away from him and into their circle of friends so everyone could clearly see her, while her eyes were trained on her clown.
She listened to the uptempo pop song and smirked triumphantly at her flustered partner; She loved this song. She began dancing rhythmically to the beat, and while the beat was fast paced, her body moved in a slow groove somehow still keeping pace with the song. She was mesmerising and all eyes were on her as she heard her friends start cheering her on.
Betty was in her own world now, no longer looking at her kicked puppy, and she was thriving in it. It’s been awhile since she was the center of attention and she was making the most of the few and far between experience. Not that she exactly craved the experience, but it sure was nice every now and then.
Her hips were moving in a deliciously slow seduction and Jughead was completely hypnotized by her. He couldn’t keep his eyes off her even if he wanted to. He licked his lower lip as she slowly tempted and tortured him with each dip from her hips. She looked good enough to eat, and he definitely wanted a taste. He was suddenly knocked out of his naughty fantasy when he felt a hand slam onto his shoulder.
“Man what are you doing Darko?!” He heard Reggie yell “Get out there and dance with her before someone else does!”
He looked at Reggie and back towards Betty almost panicked at the idea that someone would even dare lay a hand on her while she was dancing like that. He knew that this dance was meant for his eyes only, but his unintentional challenge brought this siren of a woman out into the public’s eye, and while he liked to consider himself a man above foolish emotions like jealousy, quite frankly the leering looks from the surrounding men focused on the obviously sexy blonde was not sitting well with him.
Suddenly Archie was on his other side jumping into the conversation “Yea seriously man. The moves and costume are not on your side right now.”
“Thanks pal, like I wasn’t aware of that already.” He added dryly. “Sorry. I’m not a fan of her ever-growing fan club.” he said as he rolled his eyes.
Archie only laughed at his reaction “Dude then get out there and stake your claim!”
“My claim? I don’t own Betty, Arch. I just don’t like the way other guys ogle her. Just because I feel possessive doesn’t mean I actually possess her.” He replied coolly as he crossed his arms.
“As gentlemanly as that is, I’m not sure that the great wall of River Vixens can hold off the hyenas for much longer.” Kevin interjected as he pointed towards the dancing girls.
The boys whipped their heads around and focused on the lovely ladies. Jughead saw Betty, still in her own world, surrounded by her girl friends. They really did seem like a great wall, keeping the other males at bay, dancing around her the way girls do. But it was as if the guys were wild animals and they continued to circle their prey, waiting for the right moment to attack.
He let out a disgruntled sigh and marched towards the seductress, obviously upset at the turn of events, but not exactly angry either. He definitely liked what he was seeing, but on the flip side he didn’t like everyone else seeing this normally very private side of her. Her eyes were still closed as she continued to sway as a new song played and he paused for just a moment when he reached her. Man did he hate it when she won, the benefits were well worth losing, but that smug grin of hers haunted his dreams. While not very sporty, Jughead Jones was quite the competitor and sore loser when it came to Betty’s challenges.
“Attaboy!” He heard Reggie yell. Ugh… he thought to himself he’s just as bad as they are.
Begrudgingly, he grabbed her devilish hips and roughly pulled her into him. She gasped at the sudden intrusion of her personal space and was about to attack her intruder (who has the nerve to just grab a girl like that?!) and she quickly relaxed upon seeing her favorite brooding man’s face. He seemed to be sulking more than usual, but she was all smiles.
She vaguely heard a 'Woo! Get some!’ from who she believed was Reggie and other implied cheers and she rolled her eyes at their friends’ reactions. They were only dancing!
She wrapped her arms around his neck and she swayed against his body. He kept his hands on her hips and he looked like a lost puppy trying to desperately keep up with her and not make a fool of himself in front of their friends. She knew he was still not 100% comfortable with PDA (just the occasional hand holding and maybe just sitting a little too close to each other, but that was it) and she really appreciated how he would step out of his comfort zone just to make her happy.
She decided that she already won his little challenge and she would put him out his misery, and out of the spotlight. She smiled brightly at him and he just kept his annoyed glare intact. She laughed at his complete aversion to being in the spotlight and made to move out of the inner circle and back to the sidelines.
She heard the groans and complains from her friends at their departure, and she turned to face them with a laugh. She pulled the girls with her and they began their own dance party. The group was back to cheering and the guys joined in, not wanting to be left out of the very sensual 21st century dancing. The remaining wolves backed away sensing the obvious male stand off from Gotham’s (and Dracula’s!) finest. Once the group was thoroughly distracted by their dance partners, Betty brought her attention back to her now upset clown.
“Why the long face?” she asked coyly, knowing damn well why he was upset.
He rolled his eyes at her. “You know damn well why.” See? She could him like a book.
“Aw c'mon Juggie it was just a little dance. You couldn’t have expected to go a dance party and not…well, dance! I know this isn’t your scene so we’ll take it slow from here on out. I pinky promise!” She said as she raised her right first with her pinky finger sticking out.
He chuckled at her way of dealing with almost anything and everything and smiled at her. “Alright, but you’re gonna owe me big after this” he warned as he brought his own pinky to loop with hers.
“Oh trust me, I have a few things in mind…” She said it with a playful glimmer in her eye and the guarantee of untold promises. He couldn’t resist but to follow her lead back to their group. God he would do anything for this girl.
“Yea, me too” he whispered in her ear.
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I have a feeling I’m going to be reblogging this post every few months -_-
There will always be retellings of this event, but please just be aware the original version is nothing like the fanon portrayal.
And as @stealingyourbones said, the more interesting thing brought up in this fight is that Jason is fully aware of how Tim became Robin but believed that Bruce orchestrated the entire thing.
Also, Jason at no point talks about wanting the role of Robin back. I seem to have forgotten to mention that on the original post.
And as a quick reminder, it’s good to use a block on the websites I included for the read. But if you don’t have that, just don’t click on the ads other than the “x” or “close” if they take up a large part of the screen.
I’d like to clear up some common misconceptions about the Attack on Titan Tower, aka when Jason infiltrated it to attack Tim
If you want to read this for yourself, here are some links: readallcomics - I have the best luck with this site on destop zipcomic readcomicsonline - this site can be temperamental
1) Jason did not go there to attempt to kill Tim
Jason seems to have 3 separate goals for this: - size up the new kid. - make sure he knows Bruce just sees him as another soldier - prove to Tim just how dangerous the job is (heavily implied, in my opinion, especially after Tim tried telling Jason he was wrong about how Bruce saw him) He also voiced his anger over being forgotten by everyone. Depending on your interpretation of Jason and his character, this could also be a reason. To me, this feels more like an afterthought because they moved to the Hall of Fallen Heroes before he said this, and Jason likes to be dramatic.
Side note on this. Jason never says anything about being replaced.
2) none of Tim’s injuries were life threatening
Once again, Jason was not attempting to kill him. He beat him up pretty badly, but it was designed to prove a point
3) Jason did NOT cut Tim’s throat.
That happened during Hush which predates both Under the Red Hood and Titan’s Tower. Jason was pretending to be Hush, put a knife to Tim’s throat, and put enough pressure to make him bleed (it was not an actual slice) to get Bruce to react to him. That injury was not life threatening either
4) Jason developed a respect and a bit of envy for Tim after fighting him
At the end of the issue while he’s leaving (while outside the tower), Jason acknowledges Tim’s skill. Jason also wonders if he could have had a life more similar to his, where he had friends and a better support system, if he could have had a different life.
5) Tim was NOT a damsel in distress during the fight, and he did NOT develop a fear of Jason.
Tim was making quips and dissing Jason the entire fight. Tim was not afraid of him nor did he bat an eye at being attacked by Jason. He also vocalized just how much he had to work for his cape because of how Jason's death affected Bruce
Also, the next time Tim saw Jason after this, he made sure to kick Jason in the groin
6) Jason wrote "Jason Todd was here" and signed it with a hand print on the wall.
It looks like it could be in blood, but Tim's not injured enough for there to be that much... and blood darkens after a while. There's a bit of time between Tim getting knocked out and the rest of the Titans finding him and the writing so it's probably paint. Again, Jason likes to be dramatic
7) more Robin!Jason slander by Raven
Once again, we get the mention that Jason was "aggressive". I swear, this is the only thing writers remember from Death in the Family and not the point that that behavior was out of the ordinary for Jason. This is a personal pet peeve of mine in the comics.
8) almost forgot to add the most important part, Jason made a homemade Robin costume and wore it under his Red Hood outfit because he could
Again, Jason is a dramatic bitch.
#tim drake#attack on titans tower#as much as i do like enemy to caregiver fics i feel like we need to clear the air a bit regarding this specific event#dear fans jason can be insane at times but to him he needed to prove something to both himself and tim during this#i love jason as a character#he's also has some of the most wildly different characterizations out of the batfam#Jason Todd#Red Hood#dc robin#red robin
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