#dd v. gg drama

[lesbian-toddhoward]

wait whats the deal with dingdong and game grumps?? if you dont mind talking abt it

from what i understand, during the development of dream daddy dingdong was abused by game grumps for not supporting their game. he was bullied by a lot of the members of game grumps (i think suzie and brent did a lot of it but i dont doubt that arin and dan also contributed. i also think shadman was involved with his neo-nazi beliefs [gee who would have guessed that a gross pedophile pervert was a neo-nazi?]), and it even went as far as people leaking the fact that dingdong was gay and doxxing him. because of all of this dingdong tried to commit but was stopped by julian. ryan told dingdong that he would be more vocal in support of him if he wasnt afraid of being fired from his position as an editor for game grumps (matt also had this fear iirc) and dingdong said he appreciated the sentiment. the difference is that, with whats available from dingdong, matt pretty much ghosted dingdong after the fact and only maintained a public image that the two were still friends. matt in his apology post said he believed that they were still friends but didnt talk much because of their careers and projects ect. now keep in mind this is my sparknotes version and i only learned about all of this today so i have no doubt that im missing pieces.

[accio-victuuri]

Hi, V 🙂👋 Which roles do you prefer GG and DD perform: fantasy/history or modern?

Hello Anon! 👋🏼

Ahhhh ~ as much as I love the aesthetic of historical dramas with the wigs & costumes — I know it’s hard for them. not only for their hairline and the weight they have to lose to look good in the clothes. So. I’ll pass up on that. even if it’s my type of show. I will go for Modern Fantasy. Can I choose that? like Mo Du. Something with dark themes too. I want them to have challenging acting roles. I wanna watch it and not recognize them as GG or Web at all. if you know what I mean.

[suibiansky]

BJYX Challenge DAY 1: First Bias

Okay...its still pretty damn hot, but my head isn’t fuzzy so I’m going to take advantage and write this out.

So..let’s get to it before I start melting again. Sidenote: I apologize for the lack of pretty videos. I’m so wary of incorrectly crediting the wrong owner or re-posting something I shouldn’t so I’m playing it safe. 

First Bias - Xiao Zhan

That smile. Kills me every time.

Similar to those who’ve had no prior interaction with c-drama and c-entertainment, I discovered XZ and WYB via CQL. I am a huge fan of Wei Ying as a character prior to watching the drama, and dare I say he’s in my top favorite fictional characters in media, so I had high expectations for XZ off the bat. And he delivered. Also doesn’t help that his smile literally makes me smile back. Like, did he invent the phrase ‘Smile and the world smiles with you?’ wtf. His smile can end wars as far as I’m concerned. ANYWAYS, that got me looking him up. When I realized he and DD sang Wu Ji my respect went up a notch (love me some multi-talented kings). Then I realized just how good of a singer he is: clean, smooth, almost angelic (I’m barfing at myself rn but I don’t know how else to describe his voice sorry). I remember having similar reactions to when I first heard Josh Groban sing. Like, ‘is this for real? There’s no way those vocals are coming out of his mouth.’ 

Pretty superficial start for me I admit. As I dug myself deeper into the CQL pit, I started reading about how XZ became a celebrity. In a cutthroat industry that grooms people from a young age to be celebrities to the masses, GG leaving his job and pursuing his dreams of singing is pretty badass to me. His love for the world around him and focus on the present is also admirable to me. He always has a look of nearly childlike wonder in whatever he’s experiencing in his vlogs. His ‘motivational quotes’ aren’t something to scoff at either. I usually take any celebrities’ pep talk with a grain of salt, but I find myself believing it when GG says it because of how grounded it is. He doesn’t straight up say, ‘just follow your dreams and it will all work out in the end ✨.’ I think my fellow plebians know that there’s a lot of circumstances outside one’s control that can stop you from doing what you want to achieve.  A portion of one of his quotes: “...Yes, working hard won’t guarantee success, but not working hard will guarantee that you don’t succeed.” I get the sense that despite his ‘soft’ appearance, he’s unshakeable in his determination and what he sets his mind to do. ‘Okay, I’ve decided to drop this pretty steady graphic designer job and go on this show to sing and dance and become an idol/performer. Let’s do this.’ You’ve got to have a solid foundation of self to go on that path.

But don’t be fooled over his oversized sweaters and smile! He has a mischievous, gremlin side too. Which makes him even more awesome in my book! His interactions with DD are obvious examples, but his answers in some solo interviews show that he can be snarky, playful and downright flirty. Examples:

his 6 year experience wasn’t ‘wasted’ + lip bite 😏 (I believe this was from a Sina interview, but ugh but can’t find it)

throwing dd under the bus by admitting he received recommended DD memes for his use (and handsome ones too. not like that’s hard)

‘Which ‘Ji’  in ‘Ji Qing’ do you mean? In the Hello Celebrity interview, the question is if he would rather play someone with ‘passionate scenes’ or a playboy/bad boy. Since Ji Qing can mean either passion or BL, he was asking for clarification. Not sure if this counts as a playful answer since he did look like he honest to god wanted to know which Chinese character is being used for Ji in the question, but the fact that the editing team threw down reaction images of little chicks after he asked implies he did an ‘oh snap’ moment. Reference: @/BuZhiDaoSubs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcY1BgQqQB0&t=200s

As you can see, I had a pretty strong bias 😅.  Next post: current bias aka but what about DD?? Other references: Short list of GG quotes Previous days:

Day 0

[blue-shaded]

When Game Grump's game Dream Daddy came out, their coworker/friend called Ding Dong (DD) said that he felt the game used LGBT+ people to make money after playing a beta version. Suzy rebutted angrily. People took her side, doxxed DD, called his family and told them he was gay, and DD has said that if his bf hadn't intervened he would have done "something drastic." Suzy never apologized and her initial accusation tweet is still up. The rest aren't. (1/3)

Suzy+Vernon’s tweets: twitter. com/Mort3mer/status/886059757718585344 () Longer explanation of GG+DD drama: reddit. com/r/rantgrumps/comments/cwypfg/the_parasocial_sphere_of_game_grumps_pro_jared/ () Video of DD's complaints starting at 2:07: youtube. com/watch?v=h44s5twLRno () DD deleted every tweet and almost stopped streaming, and his views have never recovered while GG came out unscathed from allowing their fans to push someone to the brink. (2/3)

It's great that GG apologized for their past racism, but there's a lot more that needs to be addressed. I hope the apology for their racism is a beginning to a long, long period of self scrutiny and many more apologies. (3/3)

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I think this should be adressed yes.

[msnbcnews05]

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[lesbian-toddhoward]

concerning the recent developments in the dingdong v. game grumps drama, i have to say that im disappointed in matt for not supporting his friend more. i understand that he didnt want to risk his job at the grumps office because it was his ticket to be able to gain footing in the LA youtube gaming community, but i feel that he should have been a way better friend to dingdong by at least privately supporting him against the scrutiny he faced from the game grumps esp after his sui attempt and the doxxing. while im gonna see how it plays out before i take sides, especially since a chunk of it is he-said-she-said from six years ago, im still very disappointed in matt's behavior. and while matt has publicly apologized for what he did in r/supermega, i feel that this is a matter that should be dealt with privately between him and dingdong. im certainly not going to defend matt's actions because i do think what he did was genuinely awful, but i think a lot of it is at the fault of game grumps for taking a genuine critique of their dating sim (dd [from what i understand] essentially stated that he felt that dream daddy was a way to cash in on the lgbt fans and wasnt a genuine work for the lgbt community) as like an attack against their entire brand and viciously going after him. but there's my two cents.

[lesbian-toddhoward]

update on the dd v. gg drama: dingdong has made a public statement. this being said, i think it would be best if everyone listened to his wishes (me included, i will stop posting about this. just wanted to keep everyone invested in the loop.)

[lesbian-toddhoward]

im not very tuned in to what goes on with gg and oneyplays bc last i watched either of them they were all just sitting around yelling the n word and all of them were laughing about it or encouraging it so i just havent bothered with them in years but.. despite collaborating and being connected to all of that as well as parts of the (former?) dumb racist little idubbbz/filthy frank Group™, are supermega still decent people? last i heard about them they were suing their now ex friend for stealing a ton of money, ive not heard about them being objectively bigoted lately, if at all

from what i know about supermega, they are pretty cool people. they're left leaning and support lgbt n such, and dont associate with people like shadman/idubbbz/filthy frank but they were on cold ones a couple of years ago (cold ones is hosted by maxmoefoe and anything4views but i think theyve largely changed from the 2010 edgy youtube days [for the record im not defending them, ive never liked them]). when they worked with game grumps they (at least matt was idk about ryan) were acquaintances with oney since oney frequently collab'd with rubberross for their art show on gg but im not so sure now since it was like 5-6 years ago. but they just kind of do their own thing most of the time, mostly lets plays, hosting their podcast, and some live action stuff. and jackson, their ex-friend who was a producer (iirc) for supermega, started committing fraud on the company card's dime (a lot of people believe this was a sort of revenge for matt accidentally deleting his childhood animal crossing gamecube save but there's no hard evidence). i really hope they're actually decent people because i like their content a lot.

[lesbian-toddhoward]

anyways i'd like to move away from the drama for now. if anything else comes out i will be willing to discuss it but until then i would like to chill.

[lesbian-toddhoward]

hmm well good info anyways, thank you :3 have a lovely day el

np! but please keep in mind im not a reliable source of info for this. i encourage you to make your own opinions based off of stuff you find and read.

[lesbian-toddhoward]

oh yeah i forgot about ross, he still working for gg? i always see him around in the jerma/vinesauce spaces and kinda cringe bc i only know him as just another gg circlejerk weirdo

i dont know, i havent kept up with ross ever since i stopped watching gg and the lot like 5 years ago.

[accio-victuuri]

Hii V!!! I have heard that DD is going to kick start his shoot for his new historical drama "world longest river" from 20 Aug.. he would be more busy now.. with SDOC 4, DDU and drama...

Hope he can spend time with his loved once before the shoot starts.

GG has just finished his shootings and might be busy as well for promotions and all.

Hey Anon!!! Anything that’s not announced yet is considered just a rumor. So let’s see what happens this month. I hope he just does SDC and DDU plus whatever engagements he has, but please no drama shooting. I really want him to have some rest in between. With GG, not sure how much promotions he will do.

I’m happy to see new content from them and all that, but tbh, can someone give them a week off? I’m getting tired just seeing the amount of work they are doing 💀.

[accio-victuuri]

Hi V! I've been seeing some rumours about DD/GG's filming roles but I'm kinda new to c-ent so I was wondering do they only have the official announcements after filming starts? So we won't know if certain roles are confirmed until some time in?

Yes, we normally have confirmation once they show up @ the Drama’s booting ceremony. This is harder if the project is kept hush-hush by the production so we won’t know till pics of them shooting it surfaces. even then, fans are not encouraged to share those photos. in that case, the true ‘confirmation’ comes when A. they post about last day of filming ( like what happened with Ace ) or B. once the posters and teaser trailers are released.

[accio-victuuri]

hi v! do you know anything that happened during gg's bday at 2019? i knew that it's mostly known for wzc and his cp st getting erased, but i want to know what's up with the actual bday? i saw the bday pics and when his friends are smiling, he doesn't look happy at all. in the twitter thread i read they say he's upset bc dd couldn't make it to the surprise bday party? is that true? i noticed that gg's answer to dd's bday wish sounded annoyed, but i just wanna know the bigger picture? thanks!

Hello Anon! All of what people were saying that happened during that birthday are all speculation. He doesn’t look happy? or maybe he’s tired? or maybe he knows once all the pictures come out, people are gonna pick it apart. He could be upset that Web can’t go but LOF started filming 10/4 so there is no way that he could. Their lives before were different, so much has changed in a year. LOF was Web’s drama after Untamed and he had a lot to prove. I’d like to think GG understood what was at stake ( he is experiencing the same thing filming OOL ) and Web isn’t making the shooting schedule so that’s just how it is. I don’t really buy the ‘petty-boyfriend GG’ interpretation people had with that birthday. THERE WERE SO MANY THINGS GOING ON AROUND THAT TIME. PEAK! CQL PROMOTIONS AND THIS NEW FAME + ISSUES. just thinking back on it now makes me feel exhausted. 💀

[accio-victuuri]

V I have a question

After all the drama that happened does DD still follow GG on weibo?

Yes. They still follow each other. ❤️

[accio-victuuri]

hi v! how are you today? i saw the asks about the rumored upcoming drama for dd and i just wanna say to that anon, there’s absolutely nothing confirming dd’s involvement with it. that drama has had so many different male leads rumored (gg was part of the rumors at some point too i’m pretty sure lol) and in general, dd has a lot of unwarranted rumors for projects so just really take them with a grain of salt when you see those rumors.

Exactly. Last June, GG was rumored to be starring and shooting a drama with ZLY soon. lol. That’s how melon accounts / gossip sites work. Take people who are guaranteed to bring you traffic + add them together + make up some story. just take those stuff as fanfic. Usually what they get right are endorsements and sometimes award show attendance. The rest, hit or miss. Mostly miss. Don’t take it seriously.