#dcrc week 16

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DCRC Week #16

Wiggity what's up my fellow book clubbers, today we're taking a look at the ethics of treating artificially made intelligent lifeforms as second class citizens and what the qualifying factors are to determine a being as truly "sentient" and deserving of basic social rights. And by that I mean we're reading PKNA #12: Second Draft which is a comic where nothing bad happens!

This post is LOOONG btw.

okay we're just gonna start off our comic as normal and-

WOAH who's this handsome young devil in his little fancy suit??? What's that? Head of Ducklair Industries?..... yeah sure that makes sense I think.

Everett Ducklair 🤢🤢🤢 get a job stay away from him. Also this is a really nice way of saying you had to stop him from being overtaken by insane homicidal tendencies and putting guns in all his inventions btw

Haha woah what was that. Did the fabric of reality just tear for a second there or did my ADHD meds just kick in. Probably just me.

MASTER Donald???..... I don't even think I can write out the jokes I wanna make here they're too inappropriate for this blog sorry. But also what the fuck.

Uno stop mothering maybe I WANT to get frostbite and lose all my fingers

Not to take a sudden side tangent here but is this supposed to be like, a good thing? Don't the other seasons exist for a reason? I always thought fall and winter were meant to be like a cleansing period, they bring balance to the two other hotter seasons. If it's eternally spring, do some plants just never die? Are animals ALWAYS in the breeding season? Today we're going to overanalyze this one concept in an essay where-

OH MY GOD IT'S ODIN wait nevermind hiii Odin hiiiii. what's lookin good cookin. I mean- shit. fuck. shit.

I'm kind of obsessed with the way Odin is drawn in this comic. His whole body is all wiggly like a bendy straw. His stances go crazy.

gayass

Guys ever since I made that post about Odin's outfits and noticed that he's barefoot here it's been haunting me. Like it might just be a coloring error in this panel but also... why'd he take his shoes off. Also sorry for immediately revealing that it's Odin but um uhh I totally don't know who the OTHER cloaked figure is.

girlll you're giving away the game SHUT YOUR MOUTH

TWO Lylas?!?!?!

I'm loving Donald's shock lmao bro is fucking flabberghasted

This picture is so fucking silly bro. Nooo you can't put Odin in jail, he has such a nice suit on :(

Donald getting offended on Uno's behalf, not knowing that Uno is literally sitting right behind him. SURELY he'll figure it out eventually right.

Omg guys it's Geena!!! Remember Geena? From Portrait of the Young Hero? Anyways she has a gun now

Way to go Donald, you showed her basic empathy for like 2 panels and it gave her an actual sense of self value and NOW she thinks she deserves rights 🙄 she's gonna Detroit Become Human up in this bitch

beaming you with my evil lasers. what if he just fucking fried her brains here I think it would've been funny

Oh that's. probably bad.

ohhhh noooo.....

OOOOHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ok so bad news, Geena fucking exploded and her droid rebellion is presumably over. The GOOD news though is that droids are destined to get their rights anyways, just in a less violent manor than in the timeline Geena had started. So... I guess that's a win?

Disappears in a cloud of beautiful sunset smoke... Goodbye Odin 👋

Donald. Please. DONALD.

Okay so there's a LOT to say about this comic (so much that I kept hitting the image limit and having to make edits to my post to make it more concise) but if I could summarize it into one word: damn. Like I'm just kinda sad now.

The whole concept of "do robots deserve to be treated like human beings" is a common argument to explore, we've seen it in all kinds of media before. The ethics that get touched on in this comic are nothing new, but I can't help but find this comic incredibly interesting to read in the year 2024. Maybe in 1997 the idea of robots integrating into our society seemed like a far-off concept, but in present day the ever-growing integration of AI technology really makes this chapter feel a little more close to home.

I mean, it's easy to be like "yeah, well of course the droids deserve to be treated like people." I mean, Lyla and Odin are droids, and we like Lyla and Odin! Odin is literally so lifelike that people don't even KNOW he's a droid. But I can't help but think about how this all ties back to the current ongoing debates surrounding the usage of AI, and specifically AI-made content. Obviously the AI we currently have is nowhere near the level of the characters in this series (chatGPT fucking WISHES it was Uno) but there's really interesting debates to be made here.

What qualifying factors determine whether or not a living being is deserving of the same rights we humans give to ourselves? Is it being biological? I mean, there are literally millions of types of animals on our planet, but we don't even treat them with the same level of respect we give to ourselves. So, is it intelligence? If we were to create a computer with the intelligence level of a living, breathing human person, would they be entitled to basic "human" rights? HELL IF I KNOW.

I love the way this comic handles exploring this topic. Geena isn't WRONG for wanting more, she's wrong in the way she went about it. Going as far as to literally alter the course of spacetime only further complicated things, for her AND for the other droids. Had Geena instead devoted her energy into droid advocacy in the modern day, things may have gone differently. This story isn't the end of droids getting rights, but it is unfortunately the end of Geena.

We ended on a happy note, but overall this story is a pretty melancholic one. Especially that whole "only machines can be rebuilt" like DAMN.

Anyways that's enough media analysis for today, time to take off my smart thinking hat and go back to being generally kinda stupid. I'm not gonna add anything about Angus Tales here at the end because I already hit the image limit lol. Umm shoutout to Angus Fangus for having like 110 parking tickets. Idiot.

[alex31624]

Duck Comic Reading Club Week 16: Paperinik New Adventures: Second Draft

And now, the comic from this week. Have to say, it was an improvement, and it shows immediately.

Oh yes, look at this. Is beautiful. Never turn into Urk again, PK.

This issue starts with Lyla directing an interview to Donald, who's the president of Ducklair Industries. He talks about how he got the job after Ducklair himself took him as a protegé.

Ok, we're in Quack Pack. Who'll be the genie this time?

But looks like Lyla will be Huey in this scenario.

But, turns out, she's not the only one who's having a bad feeling about what's happening.

Odin felt a disturbance in the air, and put himself in motion. After a quick trip to Time 0, Odin checked his memories and his suspicions were confirmed.

I love how good the art is again.

After a really good action sequence, with PK not having any trouble beating some bank robbers, Donald is ready to watch his interview. But his relaxing time is interrupted by some mysterious monks. Those monks claim being Ducklair comrades, and ask Donald for help.

But this is no regular monk, is a cyber monk, and has bringing a functional robot like the world has never seen.

Donald wants to commercialize the robot, as servants. But Lyla is offended by the idea, she thinks that the robots could be humanity friends.

Am I imagine this, or Lyla is a bit of a communist?

Maybe, but what its real is that Lyla wasn't Huey, she's the genie. She's the one who has altered the timeline.

But why?

Anyway, the monks and PK set a trap to Lyla, and confronted her. And now, we have the plot twist. The robot was another Lyla.

But that's not all.

What the hell is going on?

Ok, ok, it looks more complicated that it really is. Lyla changed the past, and altered the events of the present, and in consequence, the future. Odin and Lyla came back to stop her, and now, the original time line and the new time line are merging.

See? Easy.

Now, they have to capture her. But she is in some place outside time and space. With the help of the Time Police, PK and Odin raid the enemy base.

They found the original Lyla and the mastermind behind all, Geena.

Turned out Geena wanted to liberate the robots from their slavery life, and all thanks to PK. You see, he was the only one who ever treat her as an individual instead of a machine.

It actually make a lot of sense. Geena felt a bit of humanity in Donald actions, and wanted more. For her and her people. Robots. Something.

But Geena is a sore loser, and activated a bomb that would trap everybody outside time, trapping them forever. Odin explained that what she tried to do was taken out of context by other robots and a war was imminent.

That made Geena had a change of heart, and she sacrifices herself to save everyone.

Geena died a hero and we have this powerful moment.

Lyla and Donald return to their time, Odin gives Donald some memories for Uno, and the end.

This was good. It wasn't amazing, but it wasn't bad by any mean.

Geena's final moments were the best part. Even if she was wrong in her ways, you have to admit that, there's a limit how much a person can take before fighting back.

In days where my country is suffering, and people is taking the streets, tired of living in fear, I can understand Geena.

[okaystoptellingmetomakeanaccount]

DUCK COMICS READING CLUB WEEK #16

Second Draft.

This is my DCRC post for this week. If i remember correctly, this was the last PKNA comic I’ve read. That was a year ago now apparently. Well.

Masterpiece.

[duckblr-book-club]

Duck Comic Reading Club Week 16 - September 22-28

Paperinik New Adventures - "Second Draft"

Origin: Italy

Pages: 62

Writer: Alessandro Sisti

Artist: Claudio Sciarrone

First published: December 1997

I.N.D.U.C.K.S. link

Summary: The timeline of history is not adding up.....

[hueberryshortcake]

paperinik week 12

this shit looks insane let's get going

MR PRESIDENT?

ok so i'm asking myself Where Is Uno

ooooh i like this thing where they're showing shots of the "normal" timeline because like. ok i got mild spoilers from reading the summary obviously but. it's Pink it's Glitchy and lyla is There. i really hope this one is more lyla-centered because i think she's super neat

angus fangus: donald do you think we would be enemies in every universe <3

wait lyla doesn't know he's pk... this is so sad

ODIN SIGHTING. is he... pretending to be biological

oh wait ok nvm

guys shout out androids (lyla and odin and nobody else probably) i love them

HELP ME HAHAAA

freak

ok i'm focused

yesss worldbuilding let's go

donald: SAY WHAAAT??

happy bisexual day to my favorite lesbian's favorite bisexual donald duck

donald's red sweater this is a sweater to me in my heart

i need like. journalist lyla lay superhero paperinik fake dating au so bad it's not even funny

lowkey wondering who's in the monk robes.... like are they just random monks or could this be someone important..... IMAGINE IF IT WAS LYLA AND ODIN AND THEY TIME TRAVELED BACK TO GUIDE DONALD

guys.

guys i guessed it.

guys i'm so smart.

guys i love lyla and odin.

i cannot express to you earnestly enough that i fully just guessed that out of random

hey girl

oh that's not my lyla with a bob cut it's a random droid ok

WHERE IS MY WIFE LYLA PK YOU HAVE TO SAVE HER SAVE HER PK

imagine he just like shows up guns a blazing to rescue her from wherever she's been kidnapped and she's just finished beating up all the bad guys and freeing herself like hey pk haha how's it going i'm fine

URETHRA!

OUTSIDE OF TIME AND SPACE IN THE ONLY PLACE WHERE IT IS POSSIBLE TO KEEP LYLA PRISONER?

i'm not sure how i feel about the philosophy of this issue because (keep in mind that i'm reading this during a lecture i'm probably not paying as good attention to it as i could) like "guys i don't like how droids are enslaved" is kinda fair [i still hate geena though she WISHES she was my best friend lyla] but also yeah maybe just don't touch the timeline please i think that's a really bad idea

what the fuck

what the fuck

what the fuck

what the fuck

what the fuck

what the hell

what the hell

what

what

what

what

i'm so upset

IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO END LIKE THIS....

only machines can be reactivated...........

what the hell

mom come pick me up i'm scared what the hell

ODIN IS LYLA'S DAD????????

that's crazy. i'm going with that

that was crazy. oh my word. "hey guys i know we just watched geena complete her arc by trying to stage a violent uprising to achieve droid freedom but she fucked up reality so bad and ultimately sacrificed herself to save our heroes, dying onscreen to prove her own independence and autonomy as a living being.... anyway ANGUS TALES!!!! LOL!"

i skimmed angus tales tbh there's just humans in it i don't care i'm still devastated and shocked

second draft everybody. what the everlasting fuck.

[puffyducks]

DCRC Week #20 (Part 1)

Guys how has it already been 20 whole weeks time isn't real. Anyways speaking of, we're reading PKNA #16: Extraordinary Repairs which is a huge deal cause it means that after waiting 20 whole weeks I CAN FINALLY DOXX CAMERA 9'S FULL LEGAL NAME AND ADDRESS!!! IT'S S-

Okay FINE I guess I'll wait to say his name until we actually get to the right part in this post. And idk why I've even prevented myself from saying his real name in front of my friends that are going through this series for the first time cause it's not even like a secret or revelation, they literally tell you his name at the end of Day of the Cold Sun in his character sheet, but nobody reading the English fan translations would know that because nobody has uploaded translated versions of the character sheets (yet...) ANYWAYS

Just as a heads up to anyone who is reading this comic for the first time, the English translating here is a little scuffed (I assume whoever translated this chapter wasn't a native English speaker) so there are occasional grammatical mistakes but nothing too severe that it limits the effect of the story!

Angus I can PROMISE you do not want to start doing research into Everett Ducklair, do you know how many fuckin doomsday weapons he kept "accidentally" making??? You don't want the smoke.

What kind of fucking idiot steps into an elevator shaft without stopping to see if the elevator is ACTUALLY THERE omfg I hope he hits the bottom and dies

GUYS HE SAID THE- HE SAID THE TITLE OF THE CHAPTER!!!

ALSO HDL MENTION 🔥🔥🔥

guys.... there he is.... the man of the hour

shoutout to the way the other guy is drawn in this panel btw (his ears fell off I guess)

OHOHOHO TRENCHCOAT REVEAL!!! GUYS I AM GIDDY AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY I JUST THINK HE'S NEAT

HE SAID THE THING

why he ourple

OHHH YEAHHH IT'S YA BOI STEFAN MOTHAFUCKIN VLADUCK!!! Who appears to be constantly having a series of PTSD-related war flashbacks but ummm let's not worry about that right now

It's really interesting to me that Donald is a fan of Stefan's work. I mean media was obviously different in the 90s but still, when's the last time you heard someone bring up their favorite photographer? Either Stefan is FAMOUS famous or Donald is one of like 10 people that like to read the credits under newspaper photos.

This panel makes me laugh cause out of context it looks like Stefan is running away from PK (on account of his huge torn up fucking evil looking cape) bro is literally FNAF 2 jumpscaring at him

I FUCKING TOLD YOU

Coolest character design of all time (literally just a duck in a trenchcoat)

What have you seen WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN. 200 page comic docuseries covering all of Stefan's horrifying past experiences NOW!!!!!

You're telling me Ducklair was in his basement building fuckin DINOSAURS??.... ok I can't lie that's cool as fuck good for him

So close except actually not close at all. Granted PK does hang out in Ducklair Tower all the time, but it's not like Angus knows that 😭

Love how much this laser gun just looks like a regular pistol

Me reading poorly written analysis posts of DT17 sorry

I love evil fucked up PK can we keep him like this actually

PAPERINIK MURDERS ANGUS FANGUS IN COLD BLOOD (REAL)

Nvm we just gave him a concussion. also hi Stefan 👋

Also we drugged him. Y'know just for good measure!

NO FUCKING WAY YOU GUYS EYEBALL REVEAL 🔥🔥🔥 HE HAS GREEN EYES. or at least one green eye... I guess he could have heterochromia or something whatever

btw this is the most we'll ever see of his face so SOAK IT IN FOLKS (at least, the most we'll see in PKNA, there's like one singular comic from 2016 that shows his entire face if you're curious. You can just google his name and the photos will come up.)

SHOUTOUT TO THE LITTLE CAMERA 9 END HERE IT'S SO SILLY.

I love this issue, Camera 9/Stefan is probably one of my favorite characters. He's just fuckin cool man idk what to tell you. He's fairly inconsequential in the grand scheme of things but I like having him around, he's a fun character to add as a little bit of flavor to a series with so many ongoing narratives. I do wanna highlight this bit of text from the bottom of his Paperpedia page (which has been auto-translated from Italian and might be a bit off):

I'm so incredibly intrigued by the analysis here because, if true, I wanna know whose idea it was to start referencing classical Luigi Pirandello literature in a Donald Duck comic. I'm not saying I don't want my duck comics to have commentary on media sensationalism and alienation, but I am saying that it's certainly unexpected. Still a welcome topic!

I used most of my image limit covering the main comic so I won't be able to add a lot about the bonus comic but I will say: WAHHH WAHHHH THIS IS THE LAST TRIP COMIC 😭😭😭 at least for a while anyways. There are the Trip's Strip comics but I haven't seen anyone translate those into English and they also start at like chapter 40 so

Is the Raider just fucking allergic to dressing normally like what's going on here. Also HAHA TRIP THOUGHT HIS DAD DIDN'T COME TO THE GAME BUT HE WAS ACTUALLY WATCHING THE WHOLE TIME, EVERYONE POINT AND LAUGH 🫵 YOUR DAD LOVES YOU HAHAHA LOSER

Goodbye Trip, my sweet summer child... my child who sucks so fucking bad. He's the worst I'm gonna miss him. And ummm see you later with more spooky Carl Barks!