#correlation doesn't equal causation

[genericpuff]

yeah i don't think this is the kind of advertising rachel needs right now-

[solphage]

Just think of all the successful people currently enjoying that delicious substance; major CEOs? Great artists? Wielders of world power? All of them enjoy the high mountain powdered leaf, so with that kind of correlation it's irresponsible not to enact this proposal

proposal: mandatory state sponsored cocaine use for all american citizens

pros:

everyone will be faster

no more "woah, op what drugs were you on when you made this?" comments because we will always know what the drug is

open up a whole new industry and job market

cons:

unknown (possibly nonexistant)

[twoheartsoneclara]

i don't know that barbie (2023) is inherently to blame for all these weird "girl ____" trends going on but like. the timing of it is a bit suspicious to me.

[thatoctokittenclutchinganotebook]

I wish I knew how to reach out to my friends. I've been spending hours today alone trying to figure out how to message my friends. It's not the first time or last time. Almost every day I spend time thinking "You should message them" and then I don't because of my anxiety and depression and adhd. The closest I can apparently come to it is making a tumblr post in the hopes that one of the three friends who I think follow me on here will see it and go "Hmm, maybe he's not ignoring us because she doesn't want to hang with us. Maybe he just has anxiety and desperately wants to reach out and ask to play games together again!"

Doubt that will happen though.

I just always worry that I'll say the wrong thing and I sit there so afraid of saying the wrong thing that I never reach out at all, and all the friends I want to talk to or hang out with or be there for just drift away.

I wish I was a better person. I wish I was a braver person. I wish I could reach out to my friends.

[txttletale]

( i want to preface this by saying that im coming from a place of genuine confusion and wanting to learn, and if i say something rude please let me know/it is definitely not my intention ! ) i understand if you don't respond, but i'm kind of confused about the "being uncomfortable with incest/cnc/age-play (shortened to ICA for the purpose of this ask) kinks" is queerphobic post. in my own personal experience both online and offline, cishet couples where the woman calls her partner daddy are seen as cringey/uncomfortable. every person i've met who watches game of thrones has been made uncomfortable by the incest/doesn't support it. while i agree with the fact that kink is private business, i don't think the arguments provided are solid enough to say that being anti-ICA is exclusively queerphobic...? i feel like it more so has to do with structured discomfort. i do understand/agree that transfems are definitely under more scrutiny when it comes to kinks and fetishes, but i'm not sure if correlation equals causation here.

there is a huge jump between 'being uncomfortable' and the type of treatment that trans women online who are into Problematic Kinks™ get. nobody is asking you, personally, to be comfortable with everyone's kinks. my point is less that people are 'comforable' with the aformentioned mass-culture cishet expressions of these kinks, but that uncomfortable or not they do not respond to them with targeted mass sexual harassment, exile and ostracization from communities, and co-ordinated social murder campaigns. the cishet girl who calls her boyfriend daddy might be considered 'cringe' but she is not considered a dangerous predator who thousands of strangers need to be warned about and shown her private sexts so that everyone knows what a dangerous predator she is.

[xclowniex]

I really need goyim to listen to the whole "if 9 people sit at a table and then one nazi sits at that table and no one tried to remove the nazi, then there are 10 nazis at the table"

I have lost my entire irl friend group due to antisemitism, and whilst correlation doesn't equal causation, so im not saying anything as 100% fact, however there is mad correlation between levels of being antisemitic and closeness with a specific person.

I can't be bothered to turn it into a physcial graph but in my head, oo babie is it a strong graph

[natalieironside]

A couple years ago I started blocking every unfamiliar URL that called me dude or bro or something like that and all the transphobic harassment I'd been getting started to trickle off and then just kinda stopped completely. I straight up can't remember the last time I got a transphobic ask or comment directed at me, it's been like a year.

I know correlation doesn't equal causation but I can't help but suspect that maybe Kipling was onto something about the danegeld

[onesidedradiostatic]

Prev. https://www.tumblr.com/onesidedradiostatic/768663529880436736/re

Oh I see what you’re saying now! There’s been no “positive integer” of ace Mammon in the show! And you’re right!

I personally don’t hold out any hope that the show will ever cover or explicitly bring it up, outside occasional secondary/metatext, like the pride piece or social media. (I feel similarly about Alastor.) Can’t feel let down by the absence of something you hoped for if you never let yourself hope for anything! <— I tell myself, curled up on the floor. The old and factually incorrect “can’t miss what you never had” fallacy. /sarcasm

I’ve got aroace goggles but they’re not rose-tinted…. Likewise,

“(also having the "good" characters tell the ace character he's unfuckable and that he should keep fucking himself kindaaaaa doesn't sit right with me, I really don't want to read bad faith into mammon being made ace rep but it gets kinda hard like this)”

I feel this too, and nihilistically I feel like it’s just another one of those commonplace things that Hellaverse-style writing tends to use for comedic effect that inadvertently (or via unexamined bias, ie “this came so quickly and naturally to you that you didn’t pause to think about how this could come across to other people in your target audience or if there was a more effective way to do this before giving the go-ahead and locking it in? Ok.” Disclaimer: this is common in lots of media! I don’t intend to say it’s something unique to the H.verse writing. It can happen to anyone, like catching a cold, but it’s the hope that the writing and editing process will catch these instances and make them better, but stuff can slip through, it happens. No offence intended) implies something Less Than Ideal like a harmful stereotype or perpetuating casual bias and then assigning them Morality etc. We don’t need an aspec rendition of the Hays Code/Disney/dudebro film “queer-coded villain who you can tell is bad because they’re queer and that’s bad because it’s not good like the good guy!”

The “You like/don’t like sex/romance? What’s wrong with you? I’m the normal one!” can be toxic/dehumanising in both directions when one side thinks it’s superior to the other. But the common M.O is

- the old “If sex/romance = value/virtue/humanity, Then less/no sex/romance = less/no value/virtue/humanity”

- (Bonus points when it equates sex/romance with the capacity to love and be loved!)

- which when used as an insult is basically just a rehashed cousin of those nice-guy “fuck you you’re ugly anyway” and manosphere “I don’t want to fuck you therefore you have no/negative value”

- weirdly but not that surprisingly, it shares a few vibes with ablism, probably because certain people see aspec as something “missing or defective”. Which has historically been thrown at all lgbtqia+ so it’s sad that it persists from within the queer umbrella

- But, loosely speaking of theoretical connections to ablism… I’m not claiming that fidget toys are exclusively for one type of neurodivergence/or ASD. But there is enough fodder for a potential bad-faith reading “show implies aspec symptom of neurodivergence/ASD, says they’re unfuckable and less valued than neurotypical amatonormatives! correlation does not equal causation!” type thing. I’m too sleepy to go there.

- Saying “you’re unfuckable” to someone who doesn’t want to Do The Fucks isn’t an insult in of itself, (it’s like saying “You’ll never get a girlfriend!” to a gay dude, they’d be like “that’s exactly what I want!”) but the connotation that fuckable= worth as a person, therefore they have no worth, is. Like, you could just say “you’re a worthless piece of shit” and not bring sex into it at all, but it’s Hellaverse and sex is everywhere, including the language. It’s the lingua franca… the lingua fucka?

I could assume a goodish faith usage of insulting an ace character as unfuckable/‘the only person who’ll fuck you is you die mad’* in the “I know this bothers you, so I’m using it to bother you” way. Like how in the pilot Angel used -isms to bother Vaggie. :/

*’the only person who’ll fuck you is you’ is also a bonus trope of ‘aspec people are autosexual/autoromantic or self obsessed’ 😂

But yeah otherwise it sits weird.

There’s so much one could write and explore just on the general topic of “Aspec and Othering in the Hellaverse”, it’s actually fascinating. Whether it’s a good fascinating or bad fascinating is irrelevant though. Gender and Sexuality in horror and horror-inspired media is always a blast to look into. (You can’t tell me Alastor isn’t a little horror inspired. How his aspec-ialty can play a part in his portrayed uncanny-valley not-humanness to other sinners, being part device, performance and contradictory animal, etc etc. There’s heaps to go on if anyone felt inclined. Goodnight tumblr)

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this is a lot so I don't think I can cover everything here but yeah

I personally don’t hold out any hope that the show will ever cover or explicitly bring it up, outside occasional secondary/metatext, like the pride piece or social media.

alastor was at the very least allowed a verbal confirmation in hazbin itself so I don't think it's impossible for mammon (or octavia) to have allusions to their asexuality in their show, really I accept even subtext. for mammon it's still not even subtext yet, just word of god. but again, I won't fully judge him as bad rep here because obviously the show isn't over yet so reference to his asexuality could still come up in the future, I just had some hope it would happen sooner than later y'know and also ASMODEUS got to show up in full pan wear but we don't get any reference to mammon being asexual?

but yeah sorry this one is kinda nitpicking at this point, moving on, all you said after that yeah exactly what I meant about bee saying no one wants to fuck mammon as an insult, I know it's probably not intentionally shaming an ace character for it but it still can have bad implications even with good intention as just a lighthearted canon-typical joke

and this actually

- But, loosely speaking of theoretical connections to ablism… I’m not claiming that fidget toys are exclusively for one type of neurodivergence/or ASD. But there is enough fodder for a potential bad-faith reading “show implies aspec symptom of neurodivergence/ASD, says they’re unfuckable and less valued than neurotypical amatonormatives! correlation does not equal causation!” type thing. I’m too sleepy to go there.

I'm a bit worried about the infantilisation too, I've already seen people compare mammon talking about sex as an asexual to being like a child talking about sex

and mammon's constant use of toys in the trial doesn't really help with it, I worry that the logic behind mammon as ace rep comes down to "he's too childish and immature to understand sex and just pretends to understand it when he talks about it like a child" and that's on top of the whole "I can't see him caring about anyone legitimately therefore he's ace" logic which I have ALSO seen people say in response to him being ace

I don't want to assume that these were the actual intentions behind making him ace, of course these qualities can co-exist on top of being ace but the problem starts when you start correlating them and I think it's already bad that these are takeaways some parts of the fandom have

maybe I'm judging too early, maybe I just need to wait for mammon to be referenced as ace in the show itself and see how it's treated. but just. idk. there's just a lot of factors at play that makes me skeptical of him as ace rep, I was already skeptical when he was revealed as ace rep in the helluva pride art but this episode's showing of him has made me even moreso. genuinely, I do think having a canon sex-favourable ace is good! great in fact! but I can't praise it just for that when there's no indication of him being ace that you can see from watching the episode, if there is ever an episode that indicates him being asexual while being sex-favourable then I will praise it

anyways sorry for having topics surrounding ace mammon be so negative, I feel like it could overshadow the fact that I still really enjoyed the episode!!

[battle-subway-ghost]

Personally, I'm putting my bets on superstition. I've never seen evidence of them actually attracting more shiny Pokemon.

so is anyone else wondering how shiny charms work?

are they magic or something??? do people make shiny charms?

or is it just superstition and they don't actually do anything

[sinofwriting]

If you could humor me, how do you think drivers would respond to Arthur questioning them about why so many drivers suddenly got married? I say: Charles ruffles his hair dramatically and says everyone just wants to be on his level, Max gives something brief about them all just being in the age/phase of life where many get married before ranting about the car, Ollie blushes and stammers that he forgot to water his cat before running away, Oscar shrugs and says he never noticed, Mark says correlation doesn't equal causation, and Jenson seamlessly flips the focus by asking Arthur if he is wanting to get married and does he have a special someone and that's why he's focused on this. -🦢

In reference to this ask

Okay but you nailed it.

Charles would just ruffle his hair and say that people are copying him (y'know ignoring the fact the in verse you have to be an active driver/retired for less than three years to claim a wife and that everyone else had a claimed a wife before him other than Oscar and Ollie).

Max would say it's just time for everyone to settle down, ignoring Arthur pointing out that just a few months before he was married Max was very vocal about not settling down yet.

Ollie is trying his best to avoid Arthur after how mad the older got at him for not inviting him to the wedding and says something about feeding the car, locking himself, which then gives Arthur even more of headache cause he can never tell with Ollie if it's some weird English saying or Ollie just messing up his words.

Arthur approaches Oscar and Mark at the same time and is less than impressed with their responses of it happens.

Jenson's response makes him book a trip in hopes of finding the love of his life because no Jenson! He doesn't have anyone special and yes he is jealous! How can he not be when it seems like every single person he knows has a wife and is attached at the hip with them. He's getting worried that Dino is gonna just pop out of nowhere with a wife.

Jenson then watches as Arthur has a small breakdown over all of this and has to stop himself from laughing when Arthur says that Leo will have a wife before him.

[tf2heritageposts]

Dude this kind of behavior is exactly why I usually don't mention that my own groomer was a trans woman, in the sense that I don't wanna come off as demonizing transfems. Like yeah she's trans, doesn't erase the fact that she's a nonce NOR should it reflect badly on every trans woman ever. Every situation like this has nuance, correlation does not equal causation, and nobody's identity absolves them of the consequences of their actions. People blatantly overlooking the evidence you have presented and calling you transphobic for speaking out against your abuser is just so bizarre and disrespectful. I genuinely hope you are safe and everything turns out well for you.

thank you so much man and i hope you’re doing okay

i really feel like i have to word everything i say carefully and with a disclaimer that not all trans women are like this because of how fucking stigmatized they already are, especially with the stereotype already that they’re pedophiles and rapists

and it’s already a major problem for people to witch-hunt transfems over the mildest of reasons so this just makes me feel fucking horrible even though i know what happened

hell you have zero idea how little i wanted to go public with this. i even said in the discord server this

which i had to say for people’s safety

but then delilah made a post herself trashing us and making up shit and my hand was forced and i hate that so much

[crazycatsiren]

I'm going to say this out loud one more time: abusive people are abusive because they're abusive, not because they're mentally ill. Mental illnesses don't make people abusive. Correlation doesn't equal causation.

[khaire-traveler]

I don't want to be disrespectful but I'm feeling conflicted working with Hermes sometimes.

He's always been kind to me. I'm very grateful for that.

He has encouraged my passion for helping others especially the homeless and disabled. It's just so much discourse around me is telling me he's evil or at the very least dishonorable because he's apathetic and a trickster/thief. That he's only in my life because I'm amusing or easy to manipulate.

Gods aren't human and they're complicated. I just sometimes feel alone in my appreciation of him. I feel like I have to give up when it comes to talking about him around anybody else. Have you ever felt like this before in your practice? Thank you for listening.

***Please read this knowing I had good intentions and my tone is meant to be kind, respectful, and serious. I say this now because this feels like it may be a sensitive topic, and I don't want you to interpret this as me trying to be critical, rude, mean, etc. I promise I am not upset at you, Nonny. I know this was probably difficult for you to share.***

Hey, Nonny, thank you for entrusting me with this topic.

Honestly, I haven't seen any discourse about worshipping Hermes (keep in mind that this is the only social media, besides YouTube, that I use), but what you're describing sounds very similar to the discourse around worshipping Loki (I am a devotee of them as well). If you don't know about the discourse around Loki, I actually encourage you to look into it because it's a good example of how people will literally criticize a deity to hell and back, especially for things they did in myths or based on a person's random UPG.

The thing is, Nonny, that there is nuance in everything. Nothing is ever so neatly black and white or good and bad; there are always layers. Hermes is a god of thievery, yes, but have you considered that some people steal because they literally have no other access to basic needs, such as food or medication? Hermes is a trickster god, but have you considered that maybe it contributes to his love of laughter and fun? That in order to have a good time, sometimes you need to be witty and a bit chaotic? Being a god over these things is the same as Zeus being a god of storms: these things will happen passively, and it doesn't have to mean that god is making or causing something to happen. Just because someone gets their wallet stolen doesn't mean that Hermes was behind it. I guess it's kind of the idea that correlation does not equal causation.

About Hermes being apathetic, though, that's an absolutely ridiculous claim if I've ever heard one. In the myths, who tended to come to people's aid the most, unprompted? Hermes. Who has the epithet of joy-giver, ready-helper, and luck-bringer? Hermes. Who did some ancient shepherds pray to when their herds (their livelihood) were attacked, ancient beggars struggling to survive on the streets, ancient travelers who were terrified and lost their way? Hermes. Hermes is MUCH more than just a god of trickery and thievery. He is a god of the people. He genuinely cares about his worshippers, which literally every worshipper has told me that I've interacted with, and he takes good care of his devotees. I encourage you to research Hermes further and read about how he was worshipped in ancient times. Try to better understand who he is as a god; the view of him you're describing to me comes across as being rather black and white and disregards all of his other domains and aspects.

You need to know, Nonny, that I am someone who believes that the gods can and do love us. I believe that they can and do support us. I also believe they can and do make mistakes or upset us sometimes, but that doesn't make them (or us) evil, bad, or wrong. I believe that Hermes loves me and all his worshippers (and even others who don't actively worship him, I bet), but that's just my belief, similar to how these people talking about random Hermes discourse are simply expressing their beliefs. Remember, Nonny, that these people's beliefs are not facts. They do not dictate your life or your world view or your relationship with Hermes. Only you can decide how those things look for you. So I ask you, what do you believe? What do you believe is true about Hermes? What has he shown and expressed to you personally? How has he treated you? What has he helped you with? What has he done for you? Do you feel happy worshipping him? This is something that you need to settle within yourself. No one but you can give you the answer you're searching for.

Maybe it would also help for you to look into any potential religious or personal trauma you have and see if that is also affecting your relationship with Hermes. I did this a while back, and it was immensely helpful for me personally. I can't say that I ever viewed Hermes as being evil or anything like that, but I did have some trauma that was making me anxious about spirituality and worship in general. I recommend looking into anything that you may be dealing with as well.

If you feel something is not right within your personal relationship with Hermes, that's something you need to directly communicate with him about. Get his opinions, his insight, and even his advice, if you want it. I think it'd really help you to speak with him as directly as you can about this topic. And you know, if you are really having a hard time worshipping this god, then maybe it just isn't meant to work for now, and that's perfectly ok. It's normal not to get along or click with every deity ever. There are some deities I personally don't worship simply because I don't feel we click well, and that's ok. It's the same as how some humans just don't mix with each other well; you simply go your separate ways and continue on.

When it comes to being alone while worshipping Hermes in the community, I do understand how you feel, but to combat those feelings of loneliness, I try to actively surround myself with other blogs and people who worship or venerate Hermes. There are actually quite a lot of blogs on Tumblr that worship him; it's simply a matter of seeking them out intentionally. I don't know how it is on other social media, however. If you use TikTok (specifically PaganTok), I would actually straight-up encourage you to not. Not for spiritual stuff, anyway. People spread misinformation there like a fucking wildfire, and you will find an overabundance of hatred and ignorance in all its forms. I deleted TikTok specifically because of PaganTok, and it was literally the best choice I've ever made for myself. I encourage you to do the same if that is the issue for you.

Anyway, I wish you the best of luck on your journey ahead. I hope this answer helped you in some way. Regardless of what happens with Hermes, I hope you find deities you worship that blend well with you and help you grow as a person. Remember that you are never required to worship a deity if they make you uncomfortable. I feel that's just important to say in general. Gods will be respectful of the fact that you're not, or no longer, interested. They're thousands upon thousands of years old; they have the maturity to accept your rejection respectfully.

No matter what happens, Nonny, you will be ok. Please take care, and have a good day/night. 🧡

[astro-is-a-bigot]

Hiiii. I'm uh. I'm not astro-is-a-bigot Major, I'm astro-is-a-bigot Minor you could say (because that seems funny) and I thought it might be cool if I talked about myself because my experiences are very relevant to Astro thinking he can get away with calling people's plurality "psychosis" as if psychosis and plurality are mutually exclusive... Which it isn't. Obviously so.

I have been diagnosed with schizophrenia since I was a teen and have recently(? it's been a couple of years) developed plural symptoms, if that's what you'd call it. Is my plurality a result of psychosis? No. How do I know? Because they occur completely incongruently, which is something that Astro obviously leaves out as a possibility with this "you're not a multiple you're psychotic!" kind of stigma. And how do I know they're incongruent? Because I've come to understand my psychosis by having to live with it, which Astro looks over with the stigma of "if you're psychotic you can't tell if you're experiencing psychosis".

This will vary from person to person but I personally do not experience a constant psychosis in terms of delusions and hallucinations, and the intensity of that psychosis varies. From lived experience, I can generally tell when I'm starting to have an onset of psychosis, when I'm in the midst of psychosis, and when the symptoms pass. I understand the certain kind of "motifs" that my psychosis lingers on in terms of delusions and hallucinations. It is very possible for someone to understand their psychosis and be aware of it and many psychotic people will attest to this.

So IF all endogenic plurality is really just psychosis, surely, my "plurality" would only come up when my psychosis is intense... But it hasn't been. Have I experienced psychosis during times I've been more dissociated? Yes. But have there been times where I've experienced only psychosis or only dissociation? Also yes. And my psychotic delusions and hallucinations come in clusters so if the rebuttal were to be "well maybe it's just a different kind of hallucination--" that has never been how my psychosis has worked.

Also, there's obviously a major difference in terms of the voices associated with my psychosis and that of my headmate. Physically, the voices I hear from my psychosis will originate from absolutely any point in the room and from outside of myself; whereas my headmate is quite "internal" and it feels like he'll either be speaking over my shoulder or somewhere "further back". Also, the voices from my psychosis don't really have anything to say other than being very mean to me... Sometimes they're kind of dynamic, but overall they're incredibly shallow and tend to be imposing on me. Meanwhile, Major is incredibly dynamic with a lot of unique thoughts and reacts to things like you would expect a person to.

There's also the whole uh not being in control of my body thing and the grey outs and all that stuff. Which, if it somehow still needs clarification, is NOT something that's ever been a part of my psychosis ever in any form. I have had dissociative symptoms probably even longer than I can recall my psychosis, but no one around me nor any records I have mention that kind of possession. So if you're confused by me referring to myself as endogenic despite identifying with dissociative symptoms, that is why.

This isn't to say there isn't occasional overlap, but correlation doesn't equal causation. For example, let's consider stress. Stress is... Complicated. Stress can cause my psychosis or my dissociation to flare up, so that may bring the two closer in "timing" therefore "my plurality must be a result of psychosis under stress". But actually, it's very possible for one to come after the other because psychosis or dissociation in itself leads to stress. I can remember a time where I had initially been doing relatively okay until my headmate had start taking over for a very long period of time, which made me feel out of control and completely stressed - which caused a psychosis induced by stress. Meanwhile, I can also remember a time where my psychosis was very distressing and my dissociation occured in reaction to that sense of danger - that being a dissociation induced by stress.

There is also an overlap in a certain theme that I won't be sharing so as to keep us an anonymous as possible (you know, having a blog dedicated to calling out a harasser doesn't bode well)... So someone might go, "You see! Your headmate resembles your delusions! Your plurality is just a result of psychosis!" But like... Yeah? Of course if I you have a heavy attachment to something, that's going to be the thing your brain is most ready to draw on and create something from. Psychosis and "alters" are pulling from the same pool of information, so it's not that surprising.

And this isn't to say that plurality caused by psychosis is even wrong. Like, who give af? They're not claiming to have DID, it's just a state of being plural due to psychosis. Not a big deal. And DID obviously has a distinct overlap with psychotic symptoms as well, so it's really weird to be pushing psychotic people away for being "fakers" as if they don't have more in common with you than what you may have with other neurodivergencies. There's just so many layers of wrongness to that kind of thought it's truly baffling.

[divatheeva]

correlation doesn't equal causation. me jumping briefly back on tumblr has nothing to do with boops being back and me missing out on it the first time

[br1ghtestlight]

they usually remove the intro when an episode needs more time than the very strict 21 minutes 34 seconds etc that they're allowed with advertisements and other secheduled programs. and cutting 20+ seconds of repeated intro sequences is the easiest way to get more runtime without pissing off executives (this is common in lots of standard cable tv cartoons as you'll notice) so its good if you want to have a bit more time for emotional or story reasons so yeah episodes without intro sequences typically have a lot going on emotionally or story-wise and need extra time for that. rudy's episode will probably have an intro. it is HEARTBREAKING when bob's burgers does it bcuz it means we don't get to see the different puns that they do each episode

JUST REALIZED S14EP1 DIDNT HAVE AN OPENING CREDITS SEQUENCE..... this is a dark day for the bob's burgers community