#colt’s arm serves more as a gun than an actual functional arm

[renardsruses]

New ref for Colt as well as their arm gun design, yes I’m in hella deep

[identifying-guns-in-posts]

welcome!

i'm a bit of a nerd when it comes to guns, and thought randomly at some point that it'd be fun to start this gimmick blog and try to identify guns in various posts. however I do still kind of consider myself to be in the dunning-kruger valley, and gun identification is a bit more complex than car identification due to just how many variants of individual gun patterns there are, and how much easier it is to do modifications of them...

(ask / submission rules and other guidelines are further down in this post)

I'll try to at least identify the general pattern of the gun or any recognizable parts and cross reference with images and articles to make a decision. If your post or submission is from a particular piece of media, it's extremely likely for it to already be documented on the Internet Movie Firearms Database wiki website, so some answers will probably be pulled straight from there.

For example, the wiki clearly outlines that, in the above blog header, which is from the anime/manga Lycoris Recoil (IMFDB link here), Chisato (left) canonically uses a Detonics CombatMaster (variant of Colt 1911 pattern, chambered in .45 ACP), specifically one that incorporates elements of the Tokyo Marui Strike Warrior Airsoft replica (notable in the strike face compensator and modified rear sight). Takina (right) meanwhile uses a somewhat generic Smith and Wesson M&P9 PRO, chambered in 9x19mm, with the extended 5" barrel.

To make up for how garbage I am at getting specifics right, I may also offer some bits of trivia about the gun(s) in question and/or their implementation. For example, although Chisato's gun seems based off of the Tokyo Marui design, it notably has three port holes at the top of the compensator as compared to the single port in the original; it might be a bit more effective as a real compensator than the very-Airsoft cosmetic fixing of the TM replica. It also lacks the accessory rail in the anime. Additionally, Takina's signature sidearm, the M&P9, is extremely common in modern law enforcement (you might even recognize the handle of it in the "(A) Steal Officer's Service Weapon" meme), so it's a bit of a "cop gun" in a sense; which possibly matches how Takina essentially serves as the by-the-numbers half of the pseudo-buddycop pairing formed by her and Chisato. Interestingly enough, all other Lycoris agents are seen wielding Glock 17s instead...

asks

I'm always open to asks if you want to ask me anything, but if you want me to identify something, you should probably make it a submission!

submissions/tags

Only submit requests for identification of guns OR fictional gun reviews (more on that in another section)! Preferably memes and posts. You can also submit things from media like video games and anime, but you could probably get a faster answer through IMFDB than me >~>

If your submission or tag is for a "cursed gun" then some special rules apply. If it's a real life picture of some effed up monstrosity, I will do my best to identify it with a real, pre-built gun; otherwise, I'll try to identify parts that may have been used for it. If it's clearly an edited picture or some other form of drawing, concept, or very clearly fictional gun, this will be treated as a "Fictional Gun Review" instead.

Generally speaking I'm looking at "small arms" guns; I'm not super well-versed on artillery pieces and aircraft weapons and the like. I know a handful of rocket launchers and might be able to pick out a couple but those are also pretty hard for me.

Fictional Gun Reviews

I'm also a bit of a hobbyist game designer and like creating weapon designs myself! I can take a look at strictly fictional weapon designs and give some cursory criticism on whether or not the gun would actually function in the configuration it's in (checking things like barrel/bolt/magazine alignment, etc.), what parts of it I recognize from real guns, and an overall subjective rating.

about me

i'm a 21+ trans woman (she/her) and pansexual/biromantic disaster married to a hot butch wife. i'm also an independent game developer and secretly a streamer on another alias of mine. i like guns! i like the history of guns and the engineering of guns. personal favorites are sniper rifles, particularly the L96A1, the first military-specification sniper rifle made by Accuracy International, which served as the prototype of the Arctic Warfare line of rifles, popularized by Counter Strike's AWP (though the classification of "AWP" is incorrect for the particular weapon featured in the series, it's actually an AWM .338). favorite pistol is probably the Beretta 93R, a 3 round burst fire pistol with a similar pattern to the iconic M9 pistol. i also like the MP7 PDW (obvious half life 2 fan is obvious), the MAC10 (by far the coolest machine pistol to fire in akimbo lol), and the G36C (one of the first guns I ever decided to look up more information about many years ago after picking it up in Garry's Mod of all places).

[mittensmorgul]

6.18: *waves hello at Dabb from 1861*

So how important is this episode to s12? Considering it was written by Dabb, reveals the origins of the Colt, has Samuel Colt PUT THE GUN INTO SAM WINCHESTER’S HAND, and makes Dean an agent of the Colt’s original mythology as the actual person who used the gun to kill a phoenix with it in Colt’s original journal, I’d say it’s CRUCIAL to understanding the events of s12.

Like, possibly one of the most relevant episodes to consider when trying to understand the puzzle of s12.

No I am not overselling this. I’m definitely underselling it here.

I keep talking about the events of 6.20 as being important to understanding s12, but HONESTLY THAT IS THE PRESTIGE. That’s the distraction. The real trick to s12 is what’s happening under the surface. The underling Winchester Family Dynamic and all of the emotional underpinnings have their true foundations in 6.18. This is where the real trick will happen.

And I’m basing all of that speculation on the return of the Colt. Because this is the episode that makes Sam and Dean CENTRAL FIGURES in the mythology and history of that gun. It’s the episode that gives THEM the absolute right to it, as part of their family’s legacy that’s been literally stolen by interlopers.

It’s a part of their history that Mary just DOES NOT UNDERSTAND, or she never would’ve betrayed them to steal it and hand it over without question to the BMoL.

And if that’s not symbolic of EVERYTHING in s12, then I don’t know what is.

Everything else in s12 is set dressing.

Like Dean’s “set dressing” where he was going for “authenticity” that he quickly realized was so not authentic to the reality of 1861. His stupid serape, and their too-clean clothes were the furthest thing from authentic... But they learned quick, adapted. Not only did they blend in, Dean practically fell into the role of Sheriff.

Everything about Sunrise, Wyoming in 1861 turned Dean’s expectations on their head. He was forced over and over again to confront his own assumptions, expectations, and beliefs and face the truth-- in everything from his ridiculous blanket cape, the terrible whiskey, the whole place being so much more “germier” than he expected, right up to the fact that Samuel Colt himself had been a hunter. 

DEAN Well, we do know one thing that'll kill friggin' anything, right? SAM Yeah, the Colt. DEAN So, you go get the gun. SAM But isn't the gun coming here? I mean, according to Samuel Colt's journal? DEAN Yeah, but people here barely even know who Colt is. Maybe you got to go find him and make history.

(and yes, this is how you do time travel PROPERLY in a story)

Because the Colt has always killed the phoenix, because Sam and Dean had always been the ones in 1861 who’d made that happen. They’re not CHANGING history, they were part of it. They just didn’t KNOW they were part of it until after they went back and experienced it for themselves from the present... The present had to “catch up” to the past so it could loop around properly.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

RACHEL Castiel, I've been hearing things. Things I don't want to believe. Just tell me if it's true. CASTIEL If what's true? RACHEL You know. Your dirty little secret. CASTIEL I have to defeat Raphael. RACHEL Not this way, Castiel. CASTIEL Rachel. RACHEL We put our faith in you, and...look what you're turning into. CASTIEL I don't have a choice.

(WORST. PHRASE. EVER.)

We begin to understand just how desperate Cas has become in fighting his war. Put together with Death’s warning about the souls and what we learned he was doing in 6.17 that Sam and Dean don’t really understand yet, and the fact that we find out Crowley is really still alive in 6.19, and actually WORKING WITH CAS, the horrible truth of everything is slowly being revealed to US in a way that makes us just want to scream at the tv screen, but Sam and Dean are still in the dark. They still don’t have this full story, which is what leads Dean to honestly still trust Cas until all his illusions shatter in a ring of holy oil in 6.20.

But this time, in s12, the illusion isn’t Cas’s deception, it’s Mary’s...

Sam gets to convince Samuel Colt that he is worth of the gun, that he’s a hunter from the future. He proves it, and then some.

SAMUEL COLT All right. (he places Sam's blackberry behind his desk on the bookshelf) SAM A-all right? That's -- uh, that's it? SAMUEL COLT Well, when you've done this job as long as I have...a giant from the future with some magic brick doesn't exactly give you the vapors.

And he has Colt’s journal, and passes all of Colt’s tests:

SAMUEL COLT (nods) Not bad. (Samuel opens his jacket so Sam can see the colt in his holster) You don't want it. It's a curse. Believe me. SAM Great. Then let me take it off your hands. SAMUEL COLT You go put on a few more miles and come back, and we'll talk. SAM Trust me, I've got plenty of mileage. SAMUEL COLT I'm doing you a favor. Believe me. SAM So, what? You can really just sit there? SAMUEL COLT I've given my whole life to this. I'm done. SAM So it doesn't matter what happens. SAMUEL COLT No, it doesn't. SAM So everything you did, it all means nothing? Give me the gun.

Meanwhile back at Bobby’s, Cas lies about Rachel to Bobby, telling him that she was “corrupted” by Raphael and had turned on him. But it’s just another “regrettable” thing he’s been forced to do because of circumstances.

And we get a visual depiction of just what Cas might want with all those souls he’s been amassing-- and a hint of just what he might’ve been able to do if he could just tap into the power of all the souls in Purgatory.

CASTIEL The human soul -- it's pure... energy. If I can siphon some of that off, I-I might be able to bring Sam and Dean back.

But we also learn the truth about the Phoenix that Dean knows he has to kill. Just like the monsters in s12 who are truly “innocent” and don’t deserve to be killed just for what they are, Finch was just trying to live his life when it was torn apart...

ELIAS I was married to a woman. Good woman -- human. We lived outside of town, didn't bother anyone. DEAN Sure, freak with a heart of gold. ELIAS You want to call me "monster," fine. But all we did was go into town. I go into the bank for five minutes. I come out, she's gone. And then I heard her scream. (Exhales sharply) This... man had her pinned in the alley. I go to stop him, he pulls his gun, shoots me, then her. She died in my arms. 'Course, I don't die. The shots brought the Sheriff. Next thing I know, I'm in iron. That's why I want him just where he is -- trapped, scared. I saved the best for last.

He’d done NOTHING to deserve this. Like the monsters in s12 that have been attacked by the BMoL and their misguided plans.

But back in s6, Dean was locked into this “fate” to kill the phoenix. His ashes were the only thing that could potentially stop the Mother of All Monsters from destroying humanity in revenge for what Crowley (and Cas, but that’s still the prestige of s6, and s12 is about addressing this from a new perspective where only these surface trappings are similar and the underlying story is buried underneath, in a neat REVERSAL of these two stories of s6, because now in s12 it LOOKS like the betrayal of 6.20 is the “main story” like it was in s6 but that’s actually the SIDE STORY the way Eve was the “side story” in s6... I hope that makes sense... essentially the script has been flipped).

In s12, Dean’s the one standing “outside the story” and isn’t “fated” to shoot the phoenix (metaphorically, anyway). He’s the one writing the pages this time around, and not relying on waiting for history itself to catch up to them the way Samuel Colt’s long-fated care package did.

Because at this point in s6, Sam and Dean were entirely absorbed in and distracted from the REAL larger problem (of Cas and Crowley going after the souls of Purgatory to weaponize them against Raphael). To them, at this point in s6, Eve WAS the big bad. They didn’t understand yet that she was merely a SYMPTOM of this larger scheme. They were buying into the prestige, and when the penny dropped they were entirely unprepared despite Death’s warning, despite EVERY HINT EVER that it was “about the souls.”

And that was partly due to Dean’s unshakable faith in Cas.

And hell if it didn’t get shook real good before the end.

But this time? Dean trusts his instincts. And Cas HAS been essentially honest with them, has made that dying declaration to them of Who He Is (A Winchester), that he loves them and is family to them.

Their family that doesn’t end in blood.

And Dean DOESN’T trust Mary, or the BMoL, even if that’s his “legacy.” Because family don’t START in blood either.

He’s keeping his own council and trusting himself and the people who’ve put their trust in him.

The one thing he doesn’t know is how Sam came to have the Colt in 12.17. And when he gets that truth, the Colt will have served its other main function: As the key that unlocks the metaphorical Hell Gate Samuel Colt was building back in 1861, and that opened in 2.22 to spit out John Winchester on the orders of a yellow-eyed demon...

And then the circle can be complete.

That’s the trick of s12, right there.

[punkascas]

i want to reblog and add to this post, but i cant bc the formatting gets funky. so separate post! little bit of endverse meta i guess. 

from the post:

why in 5x04 did past!Dean say to future!Dean "You mean you're gonna feed your friends into a meat grinder? Cas too?" Three episodes earlier Dean told Zachariah "I learned that from my friend Cas" so at this point he already considered Cas to be his friend. So why was he not grouped with the others when past!Dean said that? Why did past!Dean choose to separate those two for future!Dean? Is it because he knew that to future!Dean there was a difference between sacrificing his friends and sacrificing Cas? Did past!Dean pick up on the significance of their relationship during the days he spent in that timeline? Did he want future!Dean to know that he knew? Could he just read himself well enough to know that Cas was more than a friend to future!Dean? Did past!Dean already know that his feelings for his Cas were different than his feelings for his friends and knew that future!Dean felt the same?

this is how ive always read that line--that even by that point past!dean viewed cas as different from straight up FRIEND. and then observing how his future self and cas operated and relied on each other, and how cas basically served as 2IC for dean at the camp.

(which imo is HUGE ok. like endverse!dean explicitly tells past!dean that he doesn't trust him, i.e. that he doesn't trust himself, but he does trust CAS: he wants cas's feedback on his plans; he wants cas to help lead the plan. and i cant remember the question past!dean asks but in response chuck sends him to cas. bc like OBVIOUSLY that is where future!dean apparently hangs out a lot. cas is the person future!dean goes to with questions. it’s not weird or surprising at all to chuck that dean would be looking for cas.)

WHAT I AM SAYING IS, there is a deep amount of trust between endverse!dean and cas, and (at the very least) a deep deep bond of brothers-in-arms, i-have-your-back-and-you-have-mine, that goes above and beyond any other relationship dean has with anyone, past or present (present being endverse in 2014). sam is the only possible exception to this (and past!dean at that moment doesn't feel like he has that with sam, and endverse!dean obviously has not had sam around to serve that function for a while) but sam is also dean’s brother, family, the person dean has built in as the centre of his universe. having someone else who can even come close to matching that role is hella serious and important and even maybe shocking. 

all of which past!dean witnesses and understands. and can see how their relationship differs from his current relationship with cas. it's this window into a view of POTENTIAL of what cas could be to dean and for dean. and i think that resonates strongly (and maybe even a little uncomfortably) with past!dean because he can relate. the ground work to that relationship has already been laid down. cas is already a person he's coming to rely on to help him and sam and bobby out when they need it. and with sam currently out of the picture in that episode and the one before it, cas (and not bobby) is the person dean goes to and calls and spends time with. 

so i think past!dean absolutely knew that sacrificing cas was on a whole 'nother level and whole different emotional ballgame for him/his future self than sacrificing anyone else in the camp. sacrificing cas would be more akin to sacrificing sam and we all know how much NO NEVER that hits in dean. 

(and of course i headcanon that cas was in on this plan. that the plan actually was that they were both going to die, dean in a final face-off with lucifer (and sam) and cas in a supporting role letting dean pick the hill they were going to die on. because the alternative that cas walked into that situation blind just does not make sense to me. for starters, cas is weirdly chill about cooperating what he knows (and points out to be) a bad plan. an unworkable plan. cas also knows they’re using a gun that is repudiated to kill demons but not angels. only an angel blade can kill an angel. why, if the intention really was to try to take lucifer out, would they not at least bring an angel blade for back-up? if cas even believes that lucifer can truly be killed. (like, dude, this is ENDVERSE!CAS, the happy hysterical nihilist. cas has always been a pragmatic realistic, for good or for ill, and i can’t see anyone thinking that somehow endverse!cas got any more optimistic or idealistic during the five years of fighting the apocalypse.) i just cannot believe cas would legit buy that they could actually kill lucifer with the colt.

also there’s the cut scene in the script where cas tells past!dean that when dean says it’s time to go, i.e. when dean decides that they’re done living in and fighting this unwinnable war, cas is going to follow him. because that’s just how he rolls. which to me points to the original intention being that cas and dean had this joint suicide pact for a while and set up this plan to enact that out, and past!dean just isn’t privy to that information.)