#claiming he was this way more often yes? so prove it using pre ditf comics. prove that these are defining characteristics and not just
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where are these posts of people overcorrecting by saying jason's never been angry/impulsive ever? everyone complains about them but all I've seen is people saying "jason was only angry/impulsive a limited amount of times and it wasn't any more than any other robin was. his general character was happy, clever and bright, so the few instances shouldn't define him any more than they do other robins" and people decide that by saying he wasn't angry/impulsive constantly, we're saying he's never behaved that way at any point.
dc pushed the categorization of jason as such so hard that now even when jason behaves in the exact same way as another character, he's more likely to have any action less than perfect be used as support for his being regularly angry/impulsive. tim can beat damian (unprompted) while damian's begging him to stop (tim does not stop; alfred pulls him off damian) but that doesn't mean he's an angry character; he's just emotional in that moment because of the context. but the context never matters when it comes to jason. there's the presumption that jason simply is angry and impulsive and lacking skill, so there's no need to inspect what may be causing his behaviour in that moment. it doesn't matter that jason did not have more instances of excessive anger or impulsiveness than any other robin, it doesn't matter that most of jason's time as robin does not support the idea that those few characteristics should define him. everyone has already accepted that jason is those things based on words and retroactive additions; you don't have to prove it, people already believe it based on retcons designed to make jason unlikable (usually to provide a comparison which uplifts tim). whereas any one making the claim that anger manifesting as physical aggression is a defining trait of tim drake's would actually have to prove the assertion using acceptable comics and actual logic. because, unlike with jason, these negative traits aren't a given for tim.
the facts are that jason's hopefulness, compassion, bright attitude and cleverness were more important to him as robin than anger/impulsiveness. the former were more relevant even in the stories that bring up the anger/impulsiveness! because those are consistent character traits for him, and the latter show up in certain emotional behaviours.
#if he was a generally angry/impulsive character i wouldnt fight this hard because it would not make me like him less lol. but he wasn't.#it's just not true to the degree that people pretend it is. and if it is then tim is also an angry and impulsive robin. and now ppl will#have problems because that isn't an acceptable thing to just say unlike with jason.#can people prove why it is so important that jason be seen as a very angry violent impulsive robin when he wasnt? nobody is arguing against#his having been that way at times (facing abusers who wouldnt face justice) so for anyone to disagree and say we're ignoring smth must be#claiming he was this way more often yes? so prove it using pre ditf comics. prove that these are defining characteristics and not just#what every complicated character experiences in different situations.#jason todd
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