#cis Jon and trans Jon

[rauchendesgnu]

...I don't think you understand what I mean when I say I need Jon to have more eyes. I mean. I mean more. More. It's never enough eyes. If that man still has a face, it needs to go. More eyes! Is there a bit of skin on his palm that is smooth? Not anymore, there's an eye now. You say no more space on his eye-filled body? Make 'em floating spectral eyes, I don't care.

[sp1ralmayfly]

jontim when the horrors (I'm tinking together like little dolls guys i love them)

[trans-jon-rights]

I read Impetuous Subterranean Adventures by @cursedanyway during the summer, and decided to give a go at the NotJon design there !

It's a very good fic, I highly recommend.

[very-uncorrect]

i actually love how sock like probably knows gender roles and shit exist but gives no shits and wears a skirt with jeans and striped socks like omg go off king i love you

He's so gender it's great, Sock definitely knows about gender roles he just doesn't care dude wears whatever

[ohporcupine]

also. i have been thinking this for a long while now. and after seeing tmg live i can finally speak my truth.

jon wurster has such insane levels of transfem swag its unreal. i will not be elaborating at this time but i hope u can appreciate my vision

[no-whammy]

It's actually like that one time someone called my gay friend transphobic bc he doesn't date trans women.

Bc he's not into women 🙃

I was gonna say I’m glad tumblr became a lot more of a civil website with less petty discourse but its also the website where people unironically call feminists terfs and tone police women who criticize men so you win some you lose some I guess lol

[tiredmaster]

I think we should put urinals in the women's toilets because I believe in gender equality

[murderandcoffee]

ok i’m back on my bullshit. trans archives agenda time

martin has trouble with health insurance at some point and has to go off t for a while, so his period comes back and he is Suffering. he asks if anyone has any painkillers (specifically vague) and tim’s like “yeah bro i gotchu” and hands him a midol. and martin just looks at him in panic like …does he know?? and tim is just like 😬 don’t mind me i’m just a normal cis guy with normal cis guy painkillers and neither of them ever mentions it again

tim wears a binder underneath his usual buttoned shirts, and likes to keep the top couple buttons undone. people just tend to assume it’s a tanktop, but sasha knows. she’s traded clothes with him a dozen times already

sasha gets bottom surgery and while she’s in recovery tim brings her food every day, and sits with her and tells her what she missed at work. he makes up funny stories that get more and more ridiculous until she’s finally like “okay tim i KNOW you’re lying this time” and he shrugs and replies “all trans men know is make friend laugh, eat doughnut, and lie”

jon gets top surgery but doesn’t tell any of his coworkers what procedure he’s having done, just that he’s having surgery. he’s out of work for weeks, and when he comes back martin notices that he’s no longer wearing what he’d assumed was an undershirt. martin doesn’t think anything of it. tim, however, notices that jon is veeeeery cautious about lifting his arms over his head and is just like ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) i see u, boss (and goes out of his way to retrieve everything that’s on high shelves for jon, who continues to act like nothing is up)

elias sneaks into the archives on the first day of pride month to set a little jar of trans flags in the break room. he does not admit to doing this. he watches from his office as the archives descends into chaos

[on-leatheredwings]

any hc for male reader x yandere batfam?? any of them will work. also the batboy didn't know he was bi at first (unless you're doing Tim). and the reader is dealing with internalized homophobia?

somethin short n sweet :]

Soft! Older! Yandere! Damian Wayne / Male Reader

> romantic > tw/cw: internalized homophobia, references to violent homophobia > word count: 723 > a/n: just something short and sweet... > male reader can be cis or trans

"Study with me," is what Damian Wayne says, before placing a pile of books on your already-crowded table.

His clean cut appearance contrasts with the hipster, rustic interior of your favorite cafe. It’s not really his scene, as far as you’re aware. Both the decor and the abundant crowd. 

You lean back in your chair, narrowing your eyes. "Wayne.” You have to try not to sneer.

You are acquainted with him, after all. His marks are always top of the class, and yours are always seconding. You’re at Gotham U entirely on scholarship, just having transferred from community college. You’re first in your family to go to college, period, and they were risking everything for you to be here. You had to be top of your class if you wanted to pursue your post-grad plans. 

Always being second to this nepo-baby billionaire is a bitter knock to your self-esteem. You wince, feeling sharp pain on your ribcage. One you don’t need with all the other bitter knocks your classmates already give you.

You stare up at the man, wishing he hadn’t caught you in your seat. You blink, realizing that he isn't moving. "Wait, what did you say?" you ask.

“... I said, 'study with me.'" He elegantly lands in the seat across from you at the all-too-small table. "I’ll be sitting here.”

You gape at him.

“But– y-you don’t even like me…?” Damian had never spared you the time of day until … this day. You assumed you were a gnat to him at best. Just some brokie who managed to sneak his way into his school.

How utterly wrong you were.

Damian Wayne hadn’t expected to end up with anyone other than a woman, he supposed. It had been assumed of him during his childhood and he hadn’t questioned it. From a young age he had been aware of homosexuality, and that men could be attractive, but he hadn’t considered it for himself in any serious capacity. 

Even Timothy coming out didn’t spur any curiosity from him. Despite his siblings teasing, his closeness to Jon was entirely platonic. So Damian just assumed, like the majority of the world, he was heterosexual. Until you had transferred into one of his classes and stole his breath away.

Damian’s eyes narrow and, if you can believe it, glimmer with interest. “I don’t recall ever saying that. For all you know, I could be quite fond of you.” His eyes lower to where your lips lie. “... Or at the very least, interested.”

You cheeks heat rise to your cheeks, before you flinch. There's no way. He didn’t mean it like that. Yet despite discerning his expression… Oh fuck, maybe he meant it like that? You panic, head snapping away from his. No– no. You are not going to be weird about this. You could have a friend here. 

The last time you misinterpreted friendliness from your peers as romantic advances... Those bruises are still healing, still aching when you stretch and bend. Your stomach roils with hurt, fear, and betrayal – no. You weren’t going to repeat the same mistake this time. You’ve been ostracized from most of your peers by now. ‘Pervert’ and ‘predator’ they named you. But maybe… you could have a friend here.

In your silence, Damian finds tendrils of curiosity churning in his stomach. He wants desperately to talk to you. To hear you speak. To listen to you talk at length about the lectures he finds so droll, but you find rapturing. Test scores meant nothing. He may be better at memorizing the text, but he’s read your essays. He clears his throat, lifting his chin on instinct to feign confidence.

You look up at him shyly, before realizing you’ve been mulling in silence like a freak for the past few minutes. Damian doesn’t mind, having been able to openly admire you.

You cough, trying to ease the confusion thrumming in your veins. “... Well, fine. I could use a sounding board.”

“Shall we start with the next test review?” Damian offers, flipping open a book.

You perk up, having been about to suggest lighter reading rather than the dense, metaphysical chapters your professor recommended. You nod fervently, lips curling to Damian’s delight.

“Yes, please,” you say, metaphorical tag wagging.

New friend, new friend, you inwardly cheer. 

Damian’s thoughts run considerably more romantic.

[void--crow]

they're trans because they're my silly little character and I said so

the sun will shine brighter on the day people realize there doesn't have to be a reason for a character to be trans

[annabelle--cane]

at first it was like, "this is a sensitive topic and a vulnerable population that the author is exploiting for cheap horror," and then when jonny sims came out as a former addict who wrote the episode based on his personal experiences, they switched to quietly grumbling about how okay well maybe he is an addict but it was still insensitive to make the protagonist trans, trans addiction experiences are totally different from cis addiction experiences so it's still something he has no right to write about, blah blah blah

oh riiiight I do vaguely remember that, and the discourse about that one line that implied that francis experienced transphobia. I remember finding it weird that the point seemed to be "why does tma only portray real-world bigotry when it comes to its trans characters and with no one else?" when jared hopworth was vaguely homophobic to jon and martin literally one episode prior.

[squeeneyart]

[Image description: Two greyscale digital drawings of Jonathan Sims, a darker skinned post-op trans man with various scars and short choppy Martin's hair, and Martin Blackwood, a taller light-skinned fat cis man with long light hair. They're both in boxer briefs. Left: Martin holds Jon to him as they lie in bed smiling. Right: Both standing to face each other. Jon has a hand on Martin's chest and the other on his hip while talking to Martin. Martin is bent over and grumpy, leaning down to bump his nose into Jon's face. End id]

got top surgery lol i am not immune to transing a dudes gender

stomach protrudes more now it rules

[magpod-confessions]

as a trans dude, i feel like theres an uncomfortable relationship of babying martin and trans martin hcs. i might be looking too much into it but i feel like people hc martin as trans because of the soft front he puts up, and then baby him in fanon because they see him as trans. once again i might be looking too much into it, but people that i know in real life are like scared of all cis men (or even just people with penises in general) sexually assaulting them or something but no matter what they're not scared of me and no matter what they say the reason is because i wasnt born with a penis (i dont think that people should be scared of everyone or that people's s/a trauma isnt valid, everyone can do bad things but people shouldn't think that everyone will do the bad things they're capable of and if they do think that then i think they should get the chance to talk about it and work through it) and i feel like its the same for martin (though to a lesser extent). as i said, i feel that some people see him as trans due to the personality he puts up as more of a front, and then baby him because they see him as trans. (AGAIN i could be thinking too much about this and just too wary of possible minor transphobia) 🗣

as a trans person , i do agree this may be a possibility for some trans-martin headcanons , but definitely not always . some people just like seeing their favourite characters be trans . martin is a beautiful bear to me , okay ? yay . but seriously the way the fandom babys martin is so weird and i dislike it a lot ; he doesn't like being babied , he literally said this when he was burning statements , but the fandom treats him as poor martin waaa waaa he can't help himself !! it's so annoying . :::: | - deceit

I was eepy so this is why this is late anyways agree with deceit. I definitely see where youre coming from and agree to some extent. Personally Idm transmasc martin, I do think a lot of ppl hcing him as tmasc are trans themselves and projecting lol, but I get where youre coming from. Personally I have a preference for trans jon bc. Projection reasons, but yea. I do think its good to be wary of stuff but I also feel a majority of ppl arent doing that. Also yea the babying is rly annoying jesus christ - Rosette

[initial-lime]

Jon is Schrödinger’s trans to me, I never know if he’ll be cis or trans today until I draw him, both options are correct depending on the day

[ao3feed-jonmartin]

til then ill dream of the day my odds and ends fit

read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/kOfCu15 by martinimartini “Don’t worry about that.” “I mean—“ Martin laughed sheepishly, “I-It’s still not good to do it for cis men either.” Jon stopped mid-chew for that. “Sorry?” “Well, it can get kinda serious. I-It can cause, like, hair loss, and emotional imbalances and—“ “Do you think I’m cis?”   An examination of Jonathan Sims throughout his life, through the lens of transgenderism. 5 + 1 format. Words: 1849, Chapters: 1/6, Language: English Fandoms: The Magnus Archives (Podcast) Rating: Mature Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: M/M, F/M, Multi Characters: Jonathan "Jon" Sims | The Archivist, Jonathan "Jon" Sims | The Archivist's Grandmother, Georgie Barker, Sasha James, Tim Stoker (The Magnus Archives), The Admiral (The Magnus Archives), Melanie King, Martin Blackwood, Basira Hussain, Alice "Daisy" Tonner Relationships: Martin Blackwood/Jonathan "Jon" Sims | The Archivist, Georgie Barker/Jonathan "Jon" Sims | The Archivist Additional Tags: Trans Jonathan "Jon" Sims | The Archivist, intersex jonathan sims, this is the entire point, Nonbinary Jonathan "Jon" Sims | The Archivist, He/Him and She/Her and They/Them Pronouns for Jonathan "Jon" Sims | The Archivist, transfem jonathan sims, this is also the entire point, Childhood, Childhood Trauma, Bullying, Transphobia, Jonathan "Jon" Sims | The Archivist Has ADHD, Gender Dysphoria, Ableism, Internalized Transphobia, Implied/Referenced Self-Harm, cringe texting from the 2000s, Alcohol, Unhealthy Coping Mechanisms, Canon-Typical The Beholding Content (The Magnus Archives), Canon-Typical The Flesh Content (The Magnus Archives), SORRY I LOVE THE FLESH SO BAD, Canon-Typical The Lonely Content (The Magnus Archives), 5+1 Things, Gender Identity, Gender Issues, Gender Confusion, gender euphoria, after a while!, Non-Sexual Intimacy, Nudity, Set in Episodes 159-160 | Scottish Safehouse Period (The Magnus Archives), Location: Somewhere Else (The Magnus Archives), Trans Georgie Barker read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/kOfCu15

[arsenic-catnep]

constantly having trans fem dean thoughts. her awakening that something wasn’t quite cis about her was 100% when Rhonda Hurley made her wear her panties, but she was terrified of what John would think, especially if that happened after John sent her after the lesbian nun ghosts.

probably started coming out after John died, but even with hustling people and prostitution per that one jensen interview, the first time she really feels like herself is when she goes to hell because her soul reflects what she feels, so her time there though traumatic has become sickly sweet in her mind

No you don't understand, trans Winchester's mean so much to me in any capacity and this is no exception

Thinking about the little things Dean does to feel more feminine and still be considered a man when John is alive.

She paints her nails "Jon Bon Jovi paints his nails"

She secretly wears panties "I swiped them off a girls bedroom floor after getting frisky"

She puts on lipstick when John isn't around and when it stains her lips she just shrugs "That girl tried to eat me I swear"

Only Sam knows, and even then he doesn't know the full capacity of it. At first he thinks Dean is secretly gay, then he gets more out there into the world and away from Dean at Stanford and realizes that a few of his classmates are very similar to Dean. Except they use "she/her" pronouns.

Sam doesn't care. That's his big siblings, doesn't matter if it's big brother or big sister. He loves Dean no matter what