#chelone asks

[starrynighttime]

Will rena rouge be in this Au in some way. Will alya and chloe (or Zoe lee) be in the au

Part 1

Renard’s Appearances

[familyabolisher]

sorry if this is weird but do you still have a post from your old blog that was like a list of essays you really liked? there were a couple on there i was interested in reading but i can't find it anymore 😭

i don't know which post you mean sorry :( i do have a reading list which includes a lot of essays i think are worth recommending though, so they might be on there?

[txttletale]

🍓 strawb

your literary analysis is fucking impeccable! every time you make a post i'm like ah yes another ave chelonates banger. stunned not only by your ability to make connections but also (imo the more impressive skill) to draw out those connections in detail and interrogate them to a full conclusion

[mutual 🍓 ask game]

[handonconversations]

Hello, I’m Phoenix (woman, she/her).

I’m craving to write some fun smut and revel in it with my rp partner. I’m looking for an rp partner who is as dirty as me, but who is also respectful with the limits I set. I do have them. I will not mention them here, but we can discuss them in detail while plotting. I can also promise to be just as respectful with the limits you set and not push your boundaries. I’m looking for an rp partner with a similar time zone to mine(which is PST), so EST, PST, CT, MT etc… I will accept. I will not rp with AEST, GMT or similar time zones because frankly, I love rapid replies, especially for smut text style rps and paras.

You must be 20+, or I will not interact with you! I am 26! Minors, do NOT interact. If I feel your writing doesn't reflect the standards expected from an adult, I may ask for proof of age. I understand that some people with learning disabilities may struggle with writing, which is why I'll ask for verification if necessary. If you're unable to provide it, I will remove you from my Discord.

That said, if your writing consistently has significant grammar, punctuation, or spelling issues, it’s something I personally find difficult to tolerate. There is a difference between occasional errors and lack of proofreading because you’re careless. I will politely ask you to proofread your work once, but if the issues persist, I will stop writing with you.

Writing is a serious hobby for me, and I have high standards. I give my absolute best with every reply because I want you to enjoy reading to the fullest. I expect the same with your replies.

Here’s a sample of my rp-style:

I rp the character Landon Chelon

I cannot wait to write with whoever likes this post :) I am comfortable portraying both females and males, so I can promise that I will not give you that common BS line, “ I only portray females”. You’re welcome to DM, or I will contact you if you like the post. Do know that I only rp mxf. That’s all I’m comfortable with as I am a heterosexual woman myself, and have no life or rp experience with w/w.

BONUS if you’re a TVDU fan, or fan of fantasy, such as vampires, werewolves, witches etc… I love writing that shit! And it’s not even preferred, as I appreciate slice of life and domestic plots too, but if you are into fantasy rps do let me know.

I guess that’s the gist of this discord plotting call! Please do know that while I appreciate smut, I also love plot just as much! And world-building and collaboration.

[capn-twitchery]

Hello!!!!!! Nice to see someone else who sort of knows fuck all about this game and it's lore :D 👍🏻 (@rottingollie)

hello welcome!! :D there's definitely more of us out here, and i'm on a hunt to find them. look out, everyone

rest assured though i (sadly) don't know a whole lot yet lore-wise, since i came in via sunless seas gaining a vice grip on my brain

so i'm learning the lore in the most bizarre assbackwards way-- i know less fundamental lore, and more about random ports on the far side of the unterzee

i learned about the chelonate before i knew what the masters or the bazaar was. im still too afraid to ask what a fingerking is. but i AM having fun and thats what counts

[obeetlebeetle]

1, 2, 5 and 15 for the 2023 reading ask game!!!! :)

1 & 2 done!

What 2023 new releases are you most looking forward to?

wrough. idk. i really dont pay too much attention to what's getting published unless i am waiting for something. so it's just alecto the ninth ("""just""". book that will change the timeline tbh) and . well. the jasper fforde shades of gray #2 book he says will come out next year (doubt it!)

Any other reading you'll do in 2023 that you want to recommend to folks? Newspapers, substack, favorite blog, etc?

great question for me, guy who sets blog notifs to get thru the day. im looking forward to fic from @miafeystits (tgaa boy besties!), @emotionsandphenomena (canaan house time loop!), and @bisekcual (multiple fantastic acofaf fics!). bowie's also working on an essay on christofascism that im really excited for, and im sure ari will be posting more de mechanical breakdowns or other interesting essays. @chelonates essays & substack are amazing -- working thru their recent de piece rn and it's SO good. @olreid's currently reading tag is the cream in my coffee and their video essay on representation absolutely ruled. for news i mainly just read the times + crosscut (local news site) and/or listen to npr, but ive liked what ive read from in these times. literally if you or anyone has news recs i would really like to expand my sources

[fablewoven]

Grumpy x Sunshine Starters - @landon-chelon mused: ❛  let's go outside and dance in the rain.  ❜

Hope quirked up an eyebrow at that, trying to figure out where in the world THAT had come from. She wasn't accustomed to being asked to go out in the rain, let alone to dance in it. Then again, Landon always seemed to have something up his sleeves, and she liked to be kept on her toes.

"Um...like outside?"

[legend-of-laurel]

don't know if the link will work but just two minutes before coming across the plastic surgery post you reblogged i read this. tumblr(.)com/ovaruling/707161429796618240/i-know-we-are-all-critical-of-buccal-fat-removal. people (primarily women/girls) have almost died or even literally died due to unnecessary cosmetic surgery. now feminists shouldn't even criticize but have to accept any and every cosmetic surgery? what ethical doctor would do this to a patient? this is the right side of history?

I will preface this answer with a warning that the post the ask references is originally posted by someone who is an alleged TERF. For anyone who doesn’t want to click on the post for that reason, the OP suffered extremely negative physical outcomes from multiple cosmetic surgeries. The post that anon is referencing that I reblogged is this post by @chelonates​: https://chelonates.tumblr.com/post/707168735685935105/chelonates-full-unambiguous-uncaveated-bodily

What happened to OP is deeply tragic. As I said in the tags of the post that I reblogged that presumably sparked this ask, I am also appalled that predatory industries have developed to capitalize off of cis people’s gender dysphoria/body dysmorphia. “Universal access” to body alterations imagines a world where access to these surgeries is not commodified, which I take to mean as not-for-profit. This would remove incentives that surgeons like those that OP encountered have to lie about potential surgical outcomes, rush procedures, and charge exorbitant fees. It would also remove incentives for deceptive advertising of surgical procedures. It is entirely in line with the post I reblogged, and I personally believe morally correct, to object to the continued practice of surgeons who display those behaviors.

What the post is trying to get at is that it’s not for us -- or anyone -- to decide who is getting cosmetic surgery “for the right reasons”. It is not feasible at a policy level to distinguish between people who are seeking surgical alteration in the pursuit of self-liberation and those are seeking surgical alteration because of social pressure to look a certain way. If, for you, there is any morally acceptable reason for people to seek surgical alteration, then there is no morally acceptable way to limit what kinds of alteration people can seek for themselves. I can’t speak on whether you believe that there are acceptable reasons for people to seek surgical alteration.

The post touches on the fact that there are people out there who believe that trans people have a right to surgical procedures that they feel would be harmful or morally degenerate for cis people (and trans people who do not meet their standards) to seek, or which they believe cis people (and trans people who do not meet their standards) should have to pay for. A corollary to this belief is the medicalization of trans identity, which posits that because “real” trans people are “sick” (”dysphoric”), they can be allowed free (well, or less-cost, if you don’t have universal healthcare) access to surgical procedures that are otherwise commodified and therefore cost prohibitive. I think that this is related to the belief that the “legitimate” trans desire to transition is always extra-social, in that it would exist regardless of whether the trans person in question lived in a society that held certain expectations of gendered presentation, and the cis (and the “not-sufficiently-trans”) desire for surgical alteration is always caused by social pressure and/or mental illness. I would argue, and I feel that the post is subtextually arguing, that there is no feasible way to prove or disprove that transness is extra-social while cis body modification is socially determined, and furthermore that there is no basis for holding up presumed extra-social desires as more good, virtuous, or healthy than socially-determined desires; maybe that there is no basis for differentiating between the two at all.

OP’s decision to pursue cosmetic surgery was not healthy for her and it hurt her. But there is no ethical way to litigate that her decision for cosmetic surgery was less legitimate than any given trans person’s decision to transition in such a way that would have resulted in OP being barred from seeking surgical alteration. Essentially what this boils down to is determining which people are mentally fit to seek certain body modifications and which aren’t, which is unethical no matter how you shake it and will always end up harming both trans people and cis people. It is, however, correct in my opinion to object to and act against both the social pressure to conform to gendered standards of beauty that motivated OP to pursue cosmetic surgery, and to object to and act against the predatory industry that lied to her about the surgeries’ potential effects and which profits off of reinforcing gendered beauty standards. The post I reblogged imagines a changed world with regards to access to surgical modification that can’t be summed up by saying “all current instances of cosmetic surgery are good and beneficial”.

All of this is moot, of course, if you don’t believe that trans people should have access to surgical transition and that all pursuit of external surgical alteration is unhealthy/degenerate (or perhaps, that all performance of external surgical alteration is predatory) and should therefore be banned. This may be where OP is at -- I didn’t look at the rest of her blog. I have a feeling this is not where you are at, anon, because of the way you phrased this ask. If you’re interested in where my thoughts came from, my impetus to form a conscious opinion about this at all came from this PhilosophyTube video.

[miirshroom]

Hmm, the long version is in a Reddit post that I made a while ago and not totally up to date with new thoughts and information. But I'll link it as background context because it has a bunch of mythological research and links to various sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/EldenRingLoreTalk/s/qkSQ6rWjGt

I can do a medium version here.

So, turtles in the Lands Between are generally known for these traits: wisdom, protection and stamina. This is conveyed through text, such as the sorcerer rises calling them "Wise Beasts", the Great Turtle Shell Shield for protection, and the Green Turtle Talisman and Pickled Turtle Neck Meat referencing stamina. What is easily overlooked because it only appears in visual and "show don't tell" moments is that Turtles were once considered to be tricksters and keepers of secrets. The pattern etched into the Turtle Talisman is the same criss-cross over mouth motif that is used on the Preceptor's Mask of Confidence. The spirit turtles outside the Oridys, Testu, and Chelona Rises use tricks and distraction and concealment tactics to avoid being caught, and the tricks get progressively more elaborate in a way that suggests that perhaps Oridys Rise was the first and Chelona Rise the last constructed in sequence.

So, with that in mind, Chelona Rise seems to represent a turning point - the last of the sorcerers to value turtles as being wise for their trickery. The story of Chelônê gives a hint about the kinds of outside forces that caused this shift in attitude: The Greek story of the tortoise goes that there was a mountain nymph (an oread -rock person) named Chelone who lived beside a river. When Hermes invited all of the gods, men and animals to the wedding of Hera and Zeus, only Chelone did not attend - mocking the union by her absence. So Hermes threw Chelone's home on her back and transformed her into the lazy tortoise that carries its home with it wherever it goes. In Elden Ring this may be equated to a kind of imprisonment - a sorcerer who valued the turtles for their Trickster spirit becomes trapped in the fleshy prison of a forced transformation into the creature as a Deus Ex Machina.

And this also why I think that Miriel could be considered a descendent of Chelone. Because if the gods will change a creature's nature as a first offense, what would they do for a second? There's one sure way to never miss another wedding, and that is to camp out in the church and become the pastor who presides over the weddings. The secrets still need to be kept, but instead of being a clever Trickster the wisdom of the turtles redirects into protection - to be as immovable as a rock - the Wisdom of Stone.

And maybe a follow-up question would be to ask why is Ranni's Dark Moon found in Chelona Rise? I would guess that it shows that Ranni has been to Chelona Rise, and perhaps she learned the tragedy of Chelona and left the spell behind to commemorate this. The Dark Moon spell does briefly encase the caster in the shell of the moon - before shedding it away.

Does anybody have any leads on who Chelona is supposed to be?

[imthepunchlord]

How do you think ml would have gone if Marinette had the turtle? I'm up for any miraculous that doesn’t make her the main heroine. Let others (who actually want the job) deal with that, because as far as canon goes, I'm pretty sure that the only ones who actually WANT to be heroes are: Lila, Chloé, Alya and Adrien (not really heroes, but more like the powers)

Honestly that would be pretty ideal. Turtle would be vital, but not to the extent that Ladybug is. Turtle would be a front lines role, but exclusively support and defense. And based on Fu's test for Marinette, she'd fall into that role naturally as she's willing to take risks to help another. And technically Turtle should have an edge over Butterfly, so whoever is LB wouldn't be as overwhelmed or pressured.

And unlike Adrien, Marinette’s defense would be more smart than risky throwaways that leaves the team down a member. Not to say it would never happen, but it would be a rarity.

Marinette and Wayzz would also be a good match. He can be calm and level headed and help ground her when she starts overthinking. He's also the sort to take note of his humans interest and adopt them, so he'll be very engaging with her.

[gilded--hearts]

9 with Turdel on the ask meme 👀

9) 3 words they’d describe their lusus with? Very Good Boi good heckin chonker justa lil guy

Ty for the ask Kel uwu

[starrynighttime]

Your Chelone Au is very good! The animation, dialogue, and drawing style is very nice. How would the episode Dark Cupid workout since the hero side is platonic and who would get hit? 🐞🐈‍⬛🐢

Yep. Totally completely 100% platonic.

Another Dark Cupid comic here!

Also thank you so much!!

[familyabolisher]

Sorry for being nosey, but is the page that used to be under chelonates. tumblr. com/ reading url not available anymore? :c

i badly need to update it and change some formatting and stuff on there so i've made the url a random string of letters and numbers until i get round to doing that. if there's a specific topic you were looking for then you can shoot me an ask and i'll see what i can find, or you can go through my reading tag!

[txttletale]

Appreciate the clarification because I also read your initial post as saying you want to see more media in which poor people are portrayed as vile creatures to be watched with voyeuristic fascination. You used a lot of neutral-to-negative words to describe your desired audience reaction, and specifically described them in comparison to the evil but fascinating rich people of popular media, so I don't think that's necessarily a bad-faith interpretation. Rich people making art that's "fascinated" with poor people does not seem likely to be, say, empathetic towards them.

I do agree with your ultimate point, but people who misunderstand you aren't necessarily malicious; sometimes your communication just wasn't as clear as you would have liked. It's reasonable for people to react to the most common-sense reading of your words instead of always asking whether you meant something else.

@chelonates they are mistaking us like characters in a comic shakespeare play

[handonconversations]

Hello, I’m Phoenix (woman, she/her)

I’m craving to write some fun smut and revel in it with my rp partner. I’m looking for an rp partner who is as dirty as me, but who is also respectful with the limits I set. I do have them. I will not mention them here, but we can discuss them in detail while plotting. I can also promise to be just as respectful with the limits you set and not push your boundaries. I’m looking for an rp partner with a similar time zone to mine(which is PST), so EST, PST, CT, MT etc… I will accept. I will not rp with AEST, GMT or similar time zones because frankly, I love rapid replies, especially for smut text style rps and paras.

You must be 20+, or I will not interact with you!

I am 26! Minors, do NOT interact. If I feel your writing doesn't reflect the standards expected from an adult, I may ask for proof of age. I understand that some people with learning disabilities may struggle with writing, which is why I'll ask for verification if necessary. If you're unable to provide it, I will remove you from my Discord. That said, if your writing consistently has significant grammar, punctuation, or spelling issues, it’s something I personally find difficult to tolerate. There is a difference between occasional errors and lack of proofreading because you’re careless. I will politely ask you to proofread your work once, but if the issues persist, I will stop writing with you. Writing is a serious hobby for me, and I have high standards. I give my absolute best with every reply because I want you to enjoy reading to the fullest. I expect the same with your replies.

Here’s a sample of my rp-style:

I rp the character Landon Chelon

I cannot wait to write with whoever likes this post :) I am comfortable portraying both females and males, so I can promise that I will not give you that common BS line, “ I only portray females”. You’re welcome to DM, or I will contact you if you like the post

BONUS if you’re a TVDU fan, or fan of fantasy, such as vampires, werewolves, witches etc… I love writing that shit! And it’s not even preferred, as I appreciate slice of life and domestic plots too, but if you are into fantasy rps do let me know.

I guess that’s the gist of this discord plotting call! Please do know that while I appreciate smut, I also love plot just as much! And world-building and collaboration.

.

[beatriceportinari]

do u know any origami artists who really like their sink folds? really craving that rn

DO I The most sinks I've encountered in a model was without a doubt while folding Satoshi Kamiya's praying mantis a while back (video of me doing that) (unfinished model by me). If you're folding this one be sure to have some really thin paper on hand though, I couldn't do it with printer paper, I think the recommended weight was like 30gr per square meter. Anyway your ask made me laugh because "mr kamiya does love his sinks" was my exact tag on this fish model I folded. This one is much easier though! I did it with some leftover double tissue paper I made myself that definitely was a bit subpar. Both the mantis and the fish are from his book "Origami Works of Satoshi Kamiya 3", that you can find on Z-Library. I've only folded two models of his but that's enough for me to decide he does love sinks lol.

I can't think of another one where I've noticed sink folds, although I do like them more myself now, sometimes if a corner needs to be tucked in and the instructions go for a simple mountain fold I'll add a little sink myself ;) as a treat.

Anyone feel free to chime in in the replies if you've got sink heavy model reccs!