#cgp grey tiffany

[marsmarvel02]

William D Conignsby Came out of Brittany With his wife Tiffany And his maid Manfas And his dog Hardigras

And this piece of poetry Transcribed by Hearne comma T Reached across the centuries To frustrate Grey of CGP

[cassketti]

What kind of shit was I on back at December and Janurary I made like A LOT of cgp grey fanart

[callypsia]

i saw thivs trend n thought of grey n tiff...

[cyllenity]

More tiffany doodles cuz shes the best cgp grey video tbh!!

[gavindna]

I’m gonna need one of you girlies to write some fanfiction of cgp grey and veritasium NOW

[ntrlily]

the problem with the tiffany problem is that nobody has ever shared a definitive source on it actually being a thing. you open the god damn wikipedia article and it cites a magazine editorial (no sources), a blog post (no sources), and a master thesis (based on the blog post) and absolutely nobody has bothered to check except fucking CGP Grey for a video which did not conclude with any evidence that the tiffany problem is real

im putting the originators of this in the same device as that fucker who posted an incorrect timeline of japanese tentacle erotica on here until somebody comes up with a real source

[aorish]

shame, shame! it's ok though actually at one point in a video he said that historical pronunciations were "unknowable" so I resent him forever and would kill him with my sword. and he disliked the california flag, the flag of my great nation so he's my enemy for life. but other than that his videos are pretty good.

Yeah, I've heard that thing about "historical pronunciations are unknowable" by various Hellenists who ought to have known better, (learn your history hellenists! this was known to Erasmus etc.) so I suspect he was led astray by someone who should have been more trustworthy.

@sysid-ace sent me CGP Grey's 21 minute deep-dive video on the history of the name "Tiffany" and I have to concede that Mr. Grey is good people for his willingness to research obscure historical minutiae

I'm still here, Mister Grey. I know your pain, I too have had to chase down medieval manuscripts in order to resolve a question that no one else cares about the answer to.

also: @triviallytrue appears to have absorbed your opinions on the california flag into their own lore about him.

[twentythousandvolts]

[cassketti]

Cgp grey art dump

[cyllenity]

TIFFANNNNYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!! :heart_eyes:

[socialpants]

This is essentially CGP Grey's Tiffany Brittany video

The referenced first Tiffany video

It's probably impossible to prevent the loss of information (or the degradation of it) over centuries. And new information that needs to be kept track of is created every second. But I do believe that we all share a collective responsibility to maintain the accuracy and threads to the original sources as much as we possibly can, so as to maintain ourselves as societies, and to mitigate to the best of our ability, going around in circles wrt to discoveries that are beneficial to us all (see Silicon Valley reinventing the train or the wheel every few years, and also limes for scurvy).

hbomberguy’s latest video on plagiarism has made me completely rethink literature and writing. I have never once so much as considered intentionally plagiarizing anyone or anything, but I there’s something more that has come out of this and it’s the names of the people who created the works Somerton (and others) ripped off.

Plagiarism isn’t just bad because it is lazy and disrespectful, it’s bad because it buries the truth. If you can’t find a source, the conversation is over. Somerton’s sources are fairly easy to find by simply searching his plagiarized lines, but that isn’t true in most cases. Most of the time, the line is a lot less clear.

Today, I was writing a report on English Ivy, which is an invasive species here in the US. I wanted to know when it was introduced and I at last found a source claiming it was introduced to the US “as early as 1727” on a .net website that seems quite reputable (it has multiple major universities credited in its home page), but there is no citation for where this date came from. I dug deeper and found a pamphlet created by a city government in Virginia that made the same claim, only to discover the first source linked in their bibliography. Another website (a botanical garden’s page) gave the same date with the same source hyperlinked. Of course, I have classes to attend and things to do and probably not enough time to follow the lines back to where this 1727 date came from, but if I had not just watched this video, I wouldn’t have given that date a second thought.

Of course, it doesn’t matter in the long run exactly what year hedera helix was introduced to the US, but it makes you wonder how many facts have been so vaguely attributed that it becomes completely impossible to figure out where they originated (and further, whether or not they’re true at all).

[ntrlily]

Whats your problem w the Tiffany problem?

It's not real 👍

Okay more seriously the Tiffany Problem is generally described approximately in the following terms: Tiffany is derived from the name "Theophania" and despite seeming like a modern name, it actually dates back to medieval times. One would struggle to use it in historical fiction though, because it pings the reader as anachronistic. One might get more specific, I found this blog post from 2018 while grabbing my links which mentions the name "Tifinie" which, as reported, is a 1200s Old French name. There's no examples given for us to verify though which is just the rub ain't it?

The main example I've seen brought up is minor Breton noble, Theophania Coningsby (formerly Allmayne*) born around 1300 and there are about two "sources" for her being nicknamed Tiffany and well.

Such excellent sources they are! Check the comments section on this wikitree entry! That's right that's the guy I've been vagueing about every time I see something about the "Tiffany Problem"

The other source is a poem in a footnote of a 1722 edition of the Scotichronicon from Thomas Hearne which had nothing to do with the actual Scotichronicon. There's a CGP Grey video about that one. While I wish I could just link actual text I regret to say I am unaware of any scans of that specific edition.

It's... at best apocryphal, and the evidence I've seen to date just does not point to the problem, as described, being real. If you wanted to say "You would have trouble naming a character in a 1700s or 1800s period novel 'Tiffany' because it seems too modern to the average reader, despite being an existing name at the time" you'd be right! You'd have evidence to back you up! Medieval Tiffanies on the other hand are, to be generous here, dubious, and the Tiffany Problem as deployed kind of specifies that.

*I've seen it spelled every conceivable way under the sun because standardized spelling did not exist in 1300s Brittany or England. Don't worry about this.

[nerdypagan1]

"Theophilia Townsend" is normal enough, right? I guess the greek name is a little odd, but it's basically just Tiffany.

(insert CGP Grey here)

Glad everyone is getting so much joy from early Quaker names! Looking forward to seeing any future pets/children/bands/drag acts named after stuff on this list.

[catboymettaton]

just spent an hourish crocheting while watching cgp grey videos and having somethign to watch definitely speeds up the crocheting and I also enjoyed watching the videos but I hate the feeling after a video where it feels like ive lost time since I wasn’t aware of much else during the video watching process. and maybe this is the root of why im allergic to videos. but it’s not like I was wasting that time sicne I’m almsot done with the body of this amogus

that being said please watch the cgp grey Sharks!  and tiffany videos.

[seerofstuff]

It's worse when the source cited are the ones making shit up.

Screaming and throwing things because I need to stop my research AGAIN to find ANOTHER medieval magic book to see if people on the internet are lying about it