#cgi skeletor

[swervesfirstblaster]

OH LOOK its my crazy babygirl <3

[tired-demonspawn]

i feel his "WHY?!???! because???? the bones????" in my bones

bro has golden material this is like the 5th time nobody got one of his quibbles, i feel his pain in my heart.

[victorckk]

This has been sitting in my drafts for half a year oops-

Anyway, here’s Raemura’s CGI He-Man design!

Her Revelation/Revolution variation will be posted whenever I get to making a new ref for it.

Also, gonna add links to each variation in these info posts of her. Her SPOP variation is here!

In all MOTU variations (excluding the SPOP reboot), her name is Raemura.

Her backstory is practically the same / similar in the CGI / Revelation / Revolution series, except for some details.

Spoilers ahead for those who haven’t seen/finished the series yet!

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• Pre Series

Raemura was created by Hordak as a clone, mixing some of his DNA with that of a human (possibly various other species), and a strange essence that he wasn’t entirely familiar with, which turned out to be Havoc. He sat her in a pod with a tracking device, and sent it away. Her pod landed on Eternia and was found by a young Keldor, who ended up taking her back to Eternos.

For as long as Raemura can remember, she has spent her entire life studying, training, and working to become a royal guard, and eventually the heir to the throne of Eternos, as she was the only royal child at the time before Adam’s birth.

Raemura always picked on Adam, teasing him and making fun of him for being small and weak, horrible mannerisms she picked up from Keldor, unfortunately. She also did so out of jealousy, as she believed it wasn’t fair for her to lose her supposed right to the throne, not really knowing exactly how royalty worked.

The teasing went on for a few years, up until Adam eventually vanished, along with Keldor.

At the time, she didn’t exactly get along with King Randor, so she ended up running away from the palace and came across Evelyn and Kronis. Despite them all not being too familiar with each other, the two took Raemura in regardless, as they knew Keldor would most definitely have their heads if anything happened to her.

• Season 1

Raemura spent most of her teenage and a couple of her adult years with Evelyn and Kronis, even if they were hesitant -and disappointed- about taking her in. She held a grudge against Keldor after his disappearance, as she had assumed that he abandoned her.

After being reunited, Raemura tried to avoid Keldor and the other two. She refused to look at or speak to her father, even after his transformation into Skeletor.

Skeletor had eventually persuaded Raemura to join him on a mission, which turned out to be and excuse for family bonding, so the two could catch up on the past decade.

However, it doesn’t go as planned and Raemura finds out she’s not Keldor’s biological daughter, and that he had took her in when she was still very young. This results in him also telling Raemura that it’s one of the reasons why he and Randor used to fight constantly.

All of this new information causes their relationship to become much more strained than before, and Raemura starts to push Keldor away.

• Season 2

Raemura spends a lot of her time trying to figure out who she is, who she wants to be, and what her purpose is in the fight between her father and the Masters of the Universe. She has a hard time accepting that she even has a part in it at all, as she never once appears on the Castle Grayskull tapestry.

Unaware to Raemura, there’s a deeper reason for this; her crash landing on Eternia wasn’t prophesied by Castle Grayskull, and the Castle is still trying to calculate how she plays a role in the battle.

But Raemura soon starts to slowly turn against her father, regardless. The two start to bicker and argue more often, and Raemura even tries to attack him. Eventually, she runs away and isn’t around during her father’s first defeat.

• Season 3

Raemura spends a long time traveling on her own, attempting to run away from her problems. However, it’s of no use, as Skeletor’s ghost tends to follow her around occasionally due to her body partially being created from Havoc.

She starts to slowly become more aggressive and vulnerable, and the Havoc starts to consume her entirely.

Raemura starts to blame herself for her failure to become the heir to the royal throne, become a captain of the royal guards, along with being the reason her assumed biological family didn’t want her, despite Skeletor’s constant attempts to reassure her that she’s wrong.

He tries to show he still cares about her, but Raemura refuses to see it and continues to push him and everybody else away, fully accepting the Havoc within her.

While Keldor is defeated once more and arrested, Raemura finally discovers her true purpose in the prophecy of the Masters of the Universe, where she came from, and what she’s finally meant to do.

While coming across a tattered and burnt tapestry, it reveals that she finally has a part in the battle, with the Masters of the Universe, Keldor, and the Horde fighting against her.

With that, she pledges to create her own army from the Havoc flowing through her veins, and swears revenge on everybody who has ever wronged her. Starting with Hordak himself.

TRIVIA

When Skeletor shares the Power of Havoc with the group, the Havoc already within her body (on top of the shared Havoc) is highly affected by Raemura’s bottled up emotions, bringing out her worst qualities. Her appearance is supposed to appear as a mash up of Skeletor and Hordak, meant to symbolize the fact that while Keldor is the closest to family that she’s ever known, Hordak is still a part of her and he will never lose his hold on her for his plans.

Raemura was 13-15 when Keldor took Adam to Castle Grayskull, resulting in Raemura being 23-25 during the show’s events.

She never understood why Keldor and Randor didn’t get along, nor why Keldor rarely allowed her to see her uncle. She only found out later on that part of it was due to Randor’s belief that Raemura had no business living in the palace, because of the sole fact that she was adopted.

Raemura has a crush on a Captain of the guards but is too shy and awkward to speak to her.

Raemura actually gets along better with Kronis and views him as yet another father figure. She’s collecting dads like Pokémon, she has 4 now please make it stop-

[emperorsfoot]

Prince Keldor, Skeletor, Skelegod from the Core Masters of the Universe Artbook

[n0rmal-b3an]

Alright, a specific iteration won, but nobody said what itteration in the replies. So now we gotta do another poll!

What iteration of Masters of the Universe?

[skeletap]

trying to reengage with source material MoTU so I don't get too Prima Materia brained and 1) i miss Spinal Tap 2) My Skeletor special interest is still real as hell right now

[waterfire1848]

I just wanted to throw my hat into the ring of theories. Adora generally can’t be brought into any He Man franchise (due to copyright), but putting that aside for a second there also doesn’t appear to be an Etheria in this version. When he first see Hordak, the Horde’s homebase appears to already be on Eternia and Hordak and Skeletor make a mention that the army is already coming. I doubt we’ll be seeing Etheria or even hearing about it (maybe Despondos). My theory on the whole Adora aspect though is that she and Marlena are together. Marlena went looking for her (maybe on the Horde’s section of the planet, I feel like Randor has to know that’s there) and Hordak captured her (I’ve seen some artwork of Despera…maybe Despera this time around is Marlena???????) (Does anyone know for certain what She Ra characters can appear in He Man properties?)

[hellothere-war]

Skeletor:What dose he man love the most?

Krass:ME!

Ducan:CATS!

Cringer:ROARRR!

Adam:DUNCANS SISTER!

Teela:But dinky doesn’t have a sist- WAIT YOU MEAN ME!?

[madamegemknight]

Okay I'm gonna finally. Ask about the MOTU playlist. Which is what I intended to do before all those other asks hit me like a train. Curious in particular about the inclusion of

GHOST - Honey I'm Home

sodikken - people eater

Brian David Gilbert - i wish that i could wear hats

(cracks knuckles) OH BOY HERE WE GO -

HONEY I'M HOME

Honey I'm Home revolves heavily around two ideas - religion and parenthood - both of which tie in very heavily to Teela and her storyline in CGI. Teela has numerous parental figures; Man-E-Faces, who adopted her and who she ran away from as a young child, Evelyn/Evil-Lyn, who took her in as an apprentice, and Eldress, who was explicitly described as being like family to Teela (despite them having like two conversations at that point :P).

The "father" is Man-E - distrusting the World Above (and, as we learn in Season 3, following Eldress' orders), he tried to keep Teela in the Lower Wards, where she stayed until she "landed a gig" with Evelyn.

The "moth" is then Evelyn, who is symbolically 'tied up' due to being just as much of a victim as Teela is, albeit from the opposite direction due to their role as Nemeses. Evelyn takes Teela in as part of a plan to use her, yes, but as the end of Season 3 and the few tie-in materials that discuss the Season 4 plans reveal, she's being used just as much when it comes to the battle between the Power of Grayskull and the Coming of Horokoth as Hordak's possible child. She's also tied up in the sense that she is irreversibly "tied" to Teela as her Nemesis.

This leaves Eldress as the "God", the figure who controls the entire thing from behind the scenes. At first glance, this might not seem like an appropriate role for Eldress to slot into - despite her numerous wrongdoings, she spends her time alive as a guardian serving under King Grayskull, and her time as a ghost as...well, a ghost, unable to do anything except watch from the castle. However, when looking at two of the tie-in books (specifically I, Skeletor and Into The Void), the reasoning for her being the "God" is clear: Eldress is canonically responsible for the entirety of the series happening in the first place. I, Skeletor establishes that Keldor was supposed to be the heir of Miro that took the throne (chosen to be by RANDOR, no less), only for Eldress to burst in, transfer the throne to Randor, and then refuse to explain why she chose to do so. Her line about how she "cannot see the threat" is a lie as well - Into The Void establishes that she was fully aware that Horokoth (and by extension, Hordak) were coming, and it's the reason she chose to come to Eternia in the first place. While she isn't a puppet-master by any means, her actions were carefully planned in order to make sure Adam was in a position to gain the Power of Grayskull, and in doing so caused the entire series to occur in the first place. And while I, Skeletor is told by Skeletor, who is naturally an unreliable narrator, the end of the book has Teela establish that for the most part, he was telling the truth about this specific moment.

The "there's so many things that you'll never understand" line is referring to how Eldress never explains any of this - she leaves everyone, but ESPECIALLY Teela, in the dark about critical aspects of not only her grand plan, but of their lives in general. In every other continuity where Sorceress hides her relationship to Teela, this makes sense as Sorceress can't tell Teela about their relationship without dooming Teela to her fate far earlier than she's prepared to deal with it - but here, it's so she can make sure Teela will "never go astray," as Into The Void establishes (via Teela meeting an alternate universe Eldress that's a bit more open about her past) that if Teela did know what Eldress had done, she would hate her.

The repetition of "Three voices" in the chorus, whether it be "from the gramophone" or "all alone" refers to how despite what the show tries to claim, the fusion of Teela and Eldress into Teela Na is incomplete and illogical - it's not Teela Na who we follow for the rest of Season 3, it's Teela (with Eldress' memories in her head) occasionally switching into Teela Na mode in extreme emergencies. Three voices, not one, despite the show's best attempts to present it as otherwise.

The "God devoured that of Father" line is one I don't take literally, but still fits in with the idea of Eldress enacting total control over everything, especially Teela. As I mentioned prior, she is the one who instructs Man-E-Faces to not only tell Teela nothing of her past, but to call her Teela in the first place, establishing a sense of control and regulating her destiny through Man-E. Eldress symbolically "devours" Man-E's role as foster parent by ensuring her regulations are still enforced through him.

Finally, there are the lines "A vivisection of me/Done by God, for all to see." This is representative of the moment where Eldress and Teela "merge" - despite the show's attempt to have this come across as a positive thing, playing inspiring music and ending on Teela triumphantly talking about how Eldress ~isn't really gone,~ at the end of the day Teela has still been ripped open and had an entirely new person shoved into her mind and body, said person talking the entire time about how Teela has never been any of the identities she chose for herself. Notably, vivisection refers specifically to the act of viewing the internal structures of a living being, and by fusing with Teela, Eldress becomes part of that internal structure.

tl;dr: Teela has religious trauma AND parental trauma, and they are the same person. and also 'her'. and this is treated as a good thing.

PEOPLE EATER

people eater is an interesting one - there are a few songs on the Teela side of the fanmix that are from Eldress' perspective, not Teela's. The goal of them was to come across as jarring compared to the others as a reflection on how even though the show presents Teela and Eldress as one unified being now, they're incredibly fractured and are in fact two completely separate people with two completely different sets of memories and opinions. people eater, along with Louise and Eat Your Heart, are about how Eldress ultimately views Teela as a means to an end and not as the family unit Teela perceives the two of them as.

Teela sacrifices so much for Eldress, to the point where she gets her memory wiped in Lost in The Void for figuring out too much in her attempts to save her. Despite that, Eldress never gives up anything for Teela - any moments of "reassuring" her, like encouraging her to tap into the powers of Sorceress, are ultimately just further steps on the path to making sure her perfect plan succeeds. Eldress will never take care of Teela's needs, no matter how much Teela takes care of Eldress'. Ultimately, this stems from the fact that their relationship is inherently an unequal one; Eldress can talk as much as she wants about the two of them being two halves of the same coin, or more than who they are combined, but at the end of the day Eldress needs Teela to be alive again, and Teela doesn't. It is impossible for Eldress to give up Teela, because without Teela Eldress looses her chances of living again.

And so Eldress lies. She lies about how Teela will be able to decide her own future and won't end up like Eldress. She lies about the extent of her involvement with the events that have permanently reshaped Adam's life and resulted in him having amnesia. She 'lies' to Ork-0 about the original Orko the Great lacking true heart (arguably this is true, considering Orko the Great worked with King Grayskull and was thus involved in the colonization of Leviathae, but in-universe it's revealed to be untrue so I'm counting it here). And what's notable is how whenever she lies, she isolates whoever she's lying to from the others, keeping them alone with her.

And ultimately, this ends with Eldress using Teela for a second chance to live, without her consent or even explaining what she plans on doing. The first time Teela is informed about this connection with Eldress is the same time that she is merged with her, seemingly permanently though given the cancellation of the show we'll never know for sure.

I WISH THAT I COULD WEAR HATS

i wish that i could wear hats is tied very critically to two aspects of Ork-0 that I find incredibly interesting, but that the show never addresses.

First, he never gets a costume change. When he goes from RK Unit 1983 to Ork-0, he dresses up in an outfit similar to what the actual Orko wore...and then never changes it. The kids have their Master forms, Cringer has his prosthetic claws, Adam has his formal outfit once he rejoins the royal family, Krass has her Dark Master form...and Ork-0 never changes out of the outfit mimicking Orko the Great's, even when he starts working to define himself outside of the Trollan's influence. It gets to the point where the rest of the RK Hivemind start wearing palette swapped versions of the exact same outfit - this is not Ork-0's costume, this is somebody else's costume, and it's obvious to everyone involved.

Second, he doesn't realize he's a robot until discovering that all the Trollans have left Eternia despite knowing that he's changed. He knows he's been out for a long time, he knows his body is different, and his bodily autonomy is stripped away from him by Kronis via Maker Override, something he remembers happening after the fact because it makes him even more insistent that he's a real magician. Combine this with the fact that the RK Hivemind instinctively do things like try to eat, and it becomes clear that Ork-0 has a massive disconnect between his actual body and how he perceives himself.

Even actually meeting Orko does nothing to help, because it just makes it clearer how the outfit Ork-0 wears is a crude imitation of Orko's. Furthermore, while Orko manages to resolve his issues in the exact same episode he debuts, disappearing from the plot forever after that, Ork-0 ends up regressing even further, going from "robot with Orko's memories who is learning to be his own person" to "robot copy of Orko who just had to learn to believe in himself 🙃"

The real tragedy of Ork-0 is that the show refuses to have him acknowledge anything about his robotic aspects and the clear trauma and body dysmorphia they cause him to go through, while increasing his ties to a figure that on a literal design level he is only meant to be an imitation of. Despite being created as an original character, he's reduced to nothing but "orko but robot" until the creator of the show himself seems to think that's all he is. His imitation costume has become his sole sense of identity.

[swervesfirstblaster]

my queens <3

[tired-demonspawn]

BRO CGI HE-MAN IS ABSOLUTELY GOATED WITH THE SAUCE??? WHY ISN'T IT AT ALL POPULAR?????

Did people look upon the whimsy with which it is presented and snidefully scorn about its childish nature? Did they wonder in awe at Cringer's wisdom where one might've expected cowardice? Did they see adam's yee yee ass haircut and kid eyes and scoff at the gall the showrunners had to not make adam grow up in a castle?

BRO THE ENTIRETY OF HE-MAN IS DEEPLY UNAPPRECIATED FR, ONE WOULD THINK A SIZABLE PERCENTAGE OF YOU GAY FUCKS WOULD SEE THE 2018 SHE-RA AND THINK "hm, perhaps i could check out its brother show" PLEASE I BEG OF YOU AT LEAST LIKE I DUNNO LOOK AT THE 2002 ONE OR REVELATION/REVOLUTION BRO I CAN'T TAKE THIS I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING INSANE (i am going insane)

[lemaistrechat]

Masters of the Universe: Revolution SPOILERS

A more spoiler-y follow-up about how rushed/badly paced this show was.

Again, SPOILERS. I also tagged this post #motu revolution spoilers and #masters of the universe revelation spoilers if you're temporarily blocking tags.

LAST WARNING

My worst-case scenario for the Horde was that only Hordak and new character Motherboard would get speaking parts. I was pretty much correct.

Mantenna, Leech and Grizzlor are in two scenes and have no lines.

Modulok, Multi-Bot, Dragstor and Mosquitor are not shown to exist. (Same non-appearance goes for everyone from She-Ra, but legally they had no choice.)

5 half-hour episodes make this effectually movie-length, and there's a "post-credits scene" equivalent (though before Episode 5's credits) where Grey Delisle (voice of Evil-Lyn in the 2021 CGI cartoon) appears as Despara. Yes, that made me happy. But now we need another series to give her and other Horde members screen time, space to breathe. It won't fix the fact that the Horde invasion of Eternia depicted here was ridiculously rushed.

Speaking of Horde invasions of Eternia: the one that took place when Queen Marlena had recently given birth in the 80s Filmation continuity also happened here. Skeletor has a flashback to when he and Hordak invaded the palace via a window. A crying infant Adam is seen with his parents and Skeletor crouching on the floor captured by Duncan. Skeletor is looking forlorn at Hordak as he escapes, and there's obviously something in Hordak's arms the animators are trying not to show us. If they weren't being so coy, it would actually be proper foreshadowing for the last scene! As it is, you need to be a Filmation fan to understand what's going on.

Heroic Warriors:

Gwildor has a key role. Snout Spout and Rio Blast are two new friends of He-Man who appear in a couple of fight scenes and have a couple of lines. It's not explained where they came from, which is especially odd considering that they're both cyborgs and people getting turned into cyborgs by a cult is a huge theme of the series.

Buzz-Off is even more of a cameo. We saw him at the end of Revelation. Stratos was at the end of that too, and I forget if they drew him into a crowd scene or not. In previous continuities, these guys were both royalty, and in Revolution Episode 5 He-Man abolishes monarchy and tells the people of... Eternos City? All of Eternia? To elect a leader. You'd think Stratos and Buzz-Off would react to that, but no. (All heroes who died in Revelation are also present as mute cameos.)

The short running time makes Eternia feel tiny: there's Eternos City, Castle Grayskull "outside town", Snake Mountain, a cave in Darksmoke, Gwildor's Hobbit house... that's basically it.

Evil Warriors:

Two Bad goes to Snake Mountain hoping to get a job. He gets a cyborg form. The Revelation versions of Tri-Klops, Trap Jaw, and Whiplash appear but have no lines. Webstor, Clawful and Spikor have new cyborg forms, also mute cameos.

Others:

Lyn is interesting.

Granamyr is OK. John DeLancie didn't seem to be putting a lot of heart into the role. The character is like a Cliff's Notes version of his Filmation self.

Cosmic Enforcers exist. We see deep cuts like Zanthor from Filmation and the canceled 1988 toy Strobo, but only Zodac talks (he's Jeffrey Combs).

[emperorsfoot]

Have you seen any official confirmation that the CGI MOTU show on Netflix is cancelled? If so, do you think it has anything to do with Kevin Conroy passing away?

So, the rumors that the show is officially canceled came from a tweet by one of the writers.

That tweet was then used as the main source in an article by ForEternia.Com that said the show was cancelled.

But that is a large jump from "not renewed" to "cancelled" and the same writer had to come back to Twitter to clarify her earlier tweet because For Eternia misrepresented what she said.

To clarify:

Netflix has not renewed the series beyond the original 26 episodes.

Mattel still retains control of the series and can take it to another company to partner with to create future season of the same series.

The fact that it was not renewed by Netflix does not mean the project was canceled by Mattel.

(Please signal boost this post to save a confused fan)

[skeletap]

i do 'voice warmups' sometimes before writing conversation-heavy stuff which mainly involves me listening to Skeletor and Spinal Tap's voice claims (as you all know being: CGI skeletor and ds9's garak, respectively) and god sometimes I'm taken aback being grounded to Skeletor's voice being super raspy and then Spinal Tap just sounds like, well.