#ceret like changed my life in a weird way

[phasewashere]

haven’t watched the dsmp finale or anything but ceret is the only character ever actually. from what ive seen and read im really happy that she gets the arc she deserved and the credit she deserves and i hope cceret knows that she wrote a character that was so deeply moving to me and that. like legit left me brain rotting for 2 straight years. ceret forever in my heart. blorbo i will never forget.

going to miss you my beloved <333

[astroninaaa]

great! Ok so some people are upset bc ctubbo forgave ctechno but said he couldnt forgice ceret yet.. They said it was ooc for ctubbo. Like I dont get why they're upset at that?? It makes sense to me.

Ctechno clearly hurt ctubbo more, dont get me wrong, his actions have affected ctubbo waaayyy more than ceret's betrayal, but thats the thing, ctechno didnt betray ctubbo. Ctechno has always been an anarchist and has always said he was gonna destroy L'manberg and then he did.

The whole festival thing was a mess but it wasnt a real betrayal, ctubbo barely knew ctechno and it was more ctubbo trusting cwilbur and then getting disappointed than him trusting ctechno (at least imo gimme ur thoughts).

But like he knew ceret, he GRINDED FOR LIKE 12 HOURS the day prior to the revolution with them and then he got betrayed. I dont think ctubbo EVER trusted ctechno, but he did trust ceret. A Lot.

So TO ME, since ctubbo is a very logical character, it makes sense that he would forgive the character who's always been very upfront about where his loyalties lie and why he still doesnt fully trust ceret.

but idk thats just my opinion plss tell me your takes

i had never thought of that actually but that makes a lot of sense. that’s actually a great take towards ctubbo’s forgiveness (or better lack of lmao) towards c!eret.

imo as much as ctubbo is in fact still not over getting blown up, he doesn’t keep that much of a grudge against ctechno because. because ctubbo is just too fucking smart to. he understands ctechno was put in a weird position and understands why cwilbur and ctommy didn’t jump in and understands why ctechno wanted to just let it go. does he think they could have/should have done something to stop it? definitely. does he get why they didn’t? of fucking course. i’ve said this in that one other analysis about ctubbo and logicality i wrote but like — ctubbo can see big pictures and work a thousand steps in the future before anyone can even understand what the issue is. as much as ctubbo will probably never trust ctechno like he might trust others (in the same way he could never truly trust cwilbur after the festival), he’s also not going around hating him for it because. what’s the point? what’s the point of hating him, in the big picture? what does that change?

i think what ctubbo feels about ceret is different to that bc, as you said, ctubbo genuinely cared about ceret. ceret was his family. he didn’t love ctechno, but he loved ceret. his betrayal definitely hurt a lot more bc he was actually someone ctubbo loved and cared for and worked with before the betrayal. there was no weird position. there was no impromptu decision to be made. worse: it was the beginning of the end. i mentioned this in the cove today but i believe eret’s betrayal was, for ctubbo, the first domino to what would become the sequence that ruined his life and made him into all the ugly parts ctubbo has never been able to love. of course ctubbo still feels strongly about it.

has ctechno earned redemption? fuck no. but i don’t think ctubbo ever truly blamed ctechno for the festival. he blamed cwilbur for letting it happen, and blamed schlatt, and even quackity a little bit, even tho quackity did not have a hand in it in the way ctubbo told cranboo he did. ctubbo’s feelings towards the festival are complicated and gnarly and confusing in a way i don’t think even ctubbo understands them, but as i’ve read someone say today, ctubbo never outright blamed ctechno for his execution. ctommy did. only ctommy did. so why are people so adamant in pushing ctommy’s feelings towards the festival onto ctubbo in the first place?

has ceret earned redemption? absolutely. but there’s the whole thing on how someone earning redemption doesn’t mean the people they hurt are obligated to forgive them. so there

PSA: i’m talking out of my ass. i haven’t watched today’s stream. i have no idea what’s going on. my opinions are INCREDIBLY biased towards ctubbo and everything i say is catered towards tubblings. have a good day