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but anyway, after all of that, after everything that shaak ti saw for herself, for the jedi to just roll over and accept palpatine’s version of events is just
i mean why in the fuck would they leave him alone with a clone suspected to be unstable, ‘personal guard’ or not? if for no other reason than the fives’s own safety?
and they’re really okay with ‘inhibitor chips’, even if they’re supposed to be making the clones less violent (which... they’re soldiers. being violent is sort of a requirement)? and which, like. clearly doesn’t work (case and point: hardcase) as claimed?
the jedi are just so fucking dumb it is unbelieveable. palpatine doesn’t win because he’s smart, he just wins because the plot says he has to
that’s not good writing, filoni
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Vulkuz Ganak
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[Called the “coldclaw” in Beyond the Pit, this Fighting Fantasy creature has a regional name, which I went with as a default. It’s not an endonym originally; it’s what the monster is called by the local Viking stereotypes, but it seems fitting enough to take that role. This monster reminds me of the creature designs in Return of the Jedi, like this is Sy Snootles’ relative she doesn’t like to talk about.]
Vulkuz Ganak CR 7 CE Aberration This creature is bipedal, with armored green skin and a swollen belly. Its limbs are long and thin, the arms ending with a hand, the first finger of which is elongated into a savage claw. Its mouth sits on a short proboscis, a purple ring lined with rows of sharp teeth.
The vulkuz ganak is called the “coldclaw” by most of the people who live near its territory, as this summarizes its most deadly abilities. They are carnivores with a fondness for organ meat, and roam the icy wastes looking for victims to gut or corpses to scavenge. Creatures that are still alive when the vulkuz ganak finds them are sapped of their strength by the supernaturally bitter cold the creature radiates, and may have their intestines yanked out of place by its hooked talons. A vulkuz ganak is confident in its abilities and rarely flees combat unless its opponents are wielding fire.
Coldclaws are active during the polar winter, roaming for months of darkness before retreating into caves to sleep through the summer. Vulkuz ganak have little in the way of material culture; they may collect items of interest from their victims, but the monsters choose their spoils more for interesting colors or patterns than their utility. A vulkuz ganak spends most of its time alone; only on rare occasions are they drawn by instinct towards each other to mate. They are believed by some sages to be aliens; if this is the case, their native world is likely a cold and dark one.
A coldclaw stands about five feet tall and weighs 120 pounds on average. They can speak Aklo in high, reedy voices, but rarely have much to say.
Vulkuz Ganak CR 7 XP 3,200 CE Medium aberration (cold) Init +3; Senses darkvision 60 ft., Perception +12, scent Aura frostbite (10 ft., Fort DC 18) Defense AC 20, touch 13, flat-footed 17 (+3 Dex, +7 natural) hp 82 (11d8+33) Fort +8, Ref +8, Will +9 Immune cold; SR 18 Weakness light sensitivity, vulnerable to fire Offense Speed 40 ft. Melee 2 claws +13 (1d6+4/19-20), bite +12 (1d4+4) Special Attacks eviscerating critical, rend (2 claws, 1d6+6) Statistics Str 18, Dex 17, Con 17, Int 8, Wis 15, Cha 10 Base Atk +8; CMB +12; CMD 25 Feats Great Fortitude, Improved Critical (claw), Lightning Reflexes, Nimble Moves, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (claw) Skills Climb +16, Perception +12, Stealth +13, Survival +12, Swim +12; Racial Modifiers +4 Climb Languages Aklo Ecology Environment cold land and underground Organization solitary or pair Treasure incidental Special Abilities Eviscerating Critical (Ex) When a vulkuz ganak confirms a critical hit, it deals 1d3 points of Constitution bleed in addition to the normal effects of this attack. Like all ability damage bleed, this is stopped by the application of any healing, not just effects that heal ability damage. Frostbite Aura (Su) All creatures within 10 feet of a vulkuz ganak must succeed a DC 18 Fortitude save or take 1d6 points of cold damage each round. Anyone who takes cold damage from this aura is fatigued for 1 hour or until that creature is healed to full hit points. The save DC is Constitution based.
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Ora tenterò di spiegarvi perché siete dei deficienti se pensate che questo sia smart; non solo, lo farò tipo a livelli, ad ogni livello che superate una spiegazione sempre meno elaborata e più facile da comprendere.
LIVELLO 1: in generale, uno dei trucchetti retorici più figli di puttana ed abusati per portare una conversazione ad un livello infimo e smontare una persona è la decontestualizzazione.
SE AVESTE ASCOLTATO IL DISCORSO (e non lo avete fatto), APPENA pronunciata quella frase Greta aggiunge "AND YET I'M ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES" (ovvero "e comunque io sono una tra i più fortunati"), proseguendo con una spiegazione di cosa significhi essere ancora meno fortunati.
LIVELLO 2: la decontestualizzazione non si ferma.
Greta sta parlando di clima: ovviamente non si vuole limitare al discorso di "aver rovinato l'infanzia" perché invece di essere a scuola è ad un convegno di sandroni, ma perché è angosciata dal discorso del clima.
Il clima è un bene comune, se dovesse guastarsi ci perderebbero tutti.
Lei parla di lei come se parlasse per tutti i bambini.
Che il discorso sia suo o scritto da qualcun'altro non fa la minima differenza, il messaggio NEL CONTESTO è quello.
LIVELLO 3: un altro espediente economico per sminuire è l'esagerazione forzata dei concetti per forzare la coerenza di una persona.
Si ok, Greta proviene da un paese RICCHISSIMO e non le manca nulla; ha la possibilità di fare una regata SIMBOLICA su una bella barca.
Si ok e allora? Solo perchè uno nasce nella parte fortunata del mondo non può parlare per chi è meno fortunato?
Dove mancherebbe la coerenza?
Un bimbo asiatico che cuce i palloni secondo voi potrebbe finire al suo posto?
Certo che no, deve cucire i cazzo di palloni, siete imbecilli?
LIVELLO 4: l'incoerenza dell'incoerenza.
Volete forzare la coerenza in una giusta causa? Applicate lo stesso metro di giudizio con voi stessi.
Quando vi lamentate di lavorare troppo o per troppo poco vi paragonate a un minatore di cobalto del Congo?
Assolutamente no, e nessuno nemmeno sminuisce i vostri problemi nel vostro contesto forzandoli in un contesto diverso.
Se vi lascia vostra moglie è normale che soffriate; certo, c'è di peggio, MA CIO' NON VUOL DIRE CHE UNO NON POSSA STARE MALE SE NON E' PROPRIO AL BOTTOM LINE DEL FOTTUTO PEGGIO.
(questi sono una sorta di psicologia inversa, del tipo "vogliamo decontestualizzare Greta? Ok, ma decontestualizziamo anche noi stessi e vediamo che succede).
LIVELLO 5: l'incoerenza fatta a persona, parte 1.
Non solo criticate l'incoerenza di Greta, ma siete pure dei figli della merda.
Lei sarà una "viziata che pensa al surriscaldamento globale di 16 anni", voi siete dei viziati egoisti di 30/40/50 anni che semplicemente pensano al fantacalcio e alla propria vita e poco altro.
Cosa dovremmo dire di voi?
LIVELLO 6: l'incoerenza fatta a persona, parte 2.
Voi non vi lamentate del clima?
Si però vi lamentate delle tasse troppo alte, poi non fate lo scontrino.
Vi lamentate che il vostro lavoro non sia valorizzato, poi "col cazzo che pago per la musica su spotify hahahahaha" e potrei andare avanti per anni.
La differenza?
Che almeno qualcuno si lamenta del clima, voi pure di cagate. Poi è incoerente allo stesso modo, ma peggio.
LIVELLO 7: l'incoerenza fatta a persona, parte 3.
Tutta la roba che vi mettete e utilizzate ha più o meno buone chance di essere cucita o saldata da bambini sottopagati in Asia.
LIVELLO 8 (boss finale): COSA CAZZO PUBBLICATE I BAMBINETTI NERI AL LAVORO CHE IERI AVETE COMMENTATO LA FOTO DEI BAMBINI ANNEGATI CON SCRITTO "GLI STA BENE STIANO A CASA LORO"
Ps: io non sto cercando di difendere Greta.
Di Greta me ne frego, io ce l'ho con voi, voglio distruggervi, tipo come un Jedi vuole distruggere un Sith.
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Clone Wars Escape from Kadavo
Well this is certainly a scene change and one that doesn’t really make sense,
I mean I thought it was a Camp of Holding for slaves
Where they got transported to different places on the island to do slave labor, per hap -s
Now there’s apparently a lava pit under it,
How?
That
-doesn’t make any sense
Also wtf,
Coal, metal
Since when was refinery really this place’s MO (Like this is really starting to feel like they got the Mandalorian And This Set -ting s Switch ed,)
Not to say they can’t be a coal/mining industry,
Just, that the setting should reflect it,
From we saw there was nothing to indicate this was anything but an ar chai c Soc-either
With no flues Or fu -mes
To indicate that they were burn Ing combustibles,
Honestly some kind of stalactites mine,
Or someplace where they dig for “valuables,” -like prized st- one for Jew elery- Would make more sense- - Anyway, I’m getting. way too focus -ed on the se- tt - Ing- - Again Rex is just straight up chilling, This is n’t his first rodeo with abusers,
Ok, seriously what was up with the Wil -h el m,?
(Like I don’t honestly see anything steep enough to fall off)
You could say it was a whip but we haven’t seen any Of That, Ye t-
I don’t get the screaming-
Also that dude just attacked him out of nowhere,
Like could we have gone establishment of that?
Like,
What was even his ber-zerk butt- on there?
Dude was doing his job
Like if it was a faster thing you kind of have to establish that before hand - Also then the environment, the ma jor ity, Would be working at a breakneck speed, With a sense of anxiety, In the air,
Then, the whip,
He- was?
(Like that was just plain - pointless
Not even an emotional reaction
Like that told us absolutely nothing about the setting and character
The mate didn’t even have a reaction
It’s one random guy that just decided to hit someone else-
Like that’s not even calculated never mind systematic,
Also I like how Rex like yeah I wouldn’t know anything about that, feck’in Jedi -
Also “Effect?”
Not really more like
“ Dave’s having a real rough day and I really don’t want to talk to (In that state)
Like they didn’t wince.
There was no antici pation-
No anxiety,
Like no signs of this is had a permanent psychologically damaging affect
(Note all toxic behavior is harmful, The difference here is Between The intensity of the in-dentation,
It can get pretty bad
And enabling tox can have serious effects (Pretty bad)
(Requiring a lot more time to undo)
From; Dave is really an asshole,
To I am really an asshole,
To The world is really an asshole (And Dave is the savior-)
(Apologies to anyone who’s chosen name is Dave or similar vernacular, It’s not out of any Mala- cian- Just the first identi fication I could think of,
And tox- ic logic is really not something you wanna enable,
Again what the Frick?
(This is really not an or-ganic way to introduce your rules
Like, “oh yeah speech is for-bidden, Have a nice day,”
Like you think dude-
Like you were pretty damn path -etic abu ser- (s) - (Sla vers) Wow,
There was no emotions or anything -be cause the set up was so poor,
W- h -a t
Again the emotion is non existence,
Also what the fuck happened to Rex over there? -
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When did he go down?
(Like don’t get me wrong I saw a flash in the corner?)
But why him?
[also did the scenery just completely changed because he was on the far end of Ken- Obi with something in between
Some thing they were shoveling the stuff on?
That’s just gone in this shot]
[Also, From a narra- tive, standpoint wouldn’t it have made more sense and been a more engaging concept, If the guy had threat -ene d- The clone in Obi- wan’s stead, Seeing as of the republic’s version of slavery,
Rex pos s- ib ly
Reflec- ting on the (Other Species?)
And contrasted with them,
On how much Obi-Wan views him as a possession,
(Or his reaction to the people under him getting hot ,and why)
Allo- wing for more heart,
“I’m sorry,”
“No Wors e- Than The Kamino -ins,”
Rex’s Sub Cat;
Seeing the people he was trained (and order-ed) to protect Harm -ed - Much like the people (under him) were harmed during the Kamooin. s-
Groom -ing, ?]
Any -way,
Again, and what was the emotion? - M-aster
Rex must be like, Kar- ma
If he’s not,
[Never mind he isn’t asleep just one frame made it look weird?]
Ai- gh -t
Oh yeah seriously check up on that one guy instead of you know the person under the command,
Also;
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What The fuck?
IS THAT GOOGLY EYES?
What the feck,
What is with that expression-
What is with that facial-
(Seriously someone tell me what emotions this is supposed to por- tray!
What?
Also yeah
they completely waltz. -ed past the ab- us -er. Be- Ing - Con- fron ted- by the Con- Seq- Uen Ce (s) Of their actions,
It’s not pointed out that Obi-Wan totally caused this by (not)- listen-ing, To dude’s initiative to stay out of it
(Or, what he did to Cody Rex, and basically all the clones,)
(And what could’ve been a good moral about negative effects of “Pos- itive over- invo lv e- Ment- )
so I am slightly big mad
Not com- -pletely
But I’m get-ting th-ere
Drinking my slightly bitter ju-ice-
Gett -ing pr-etty salty
Which is odd since I normally don’t criticize aesthetic differences
Like This- -
The problem is it isn’t the aesthetic that I have a problem with, (You want to have a Obi-Wan show more compassion to the slave of similar generation then to Rex?
(That’s per-fect-ly fine and could even show how he values his job and Mission over someone he is actually wound- ed-)
However that’s not it-
(It doesn’t even do that)
My problem with it is that it shows no emotion
No emphasis
No moral
It’s - empty - Watching this scene, there is absolutely nothing I get out of it,
Also wow that was a quick turnaround,
Like seriously it generally takes longer for that kind of behavior to be indented,
This is literally the only Jedi he’s seen be there
One time
This is barely scraping logic, And even then, not really requiring- pre-knowledge of the emotions and general plot (before hand)
I know that I should feel bad for the slave because slav-ery is a bad thing And any real person would be pretty upset it/ Suffer for the toxic environment,
Note; it’s not from the medium
I didn’t gain that knowledge from the medium
(In which the chara- cters actions and emotions, Make me conclude, “oh wow, slavery is a real bad thing!”
No the characters are wooden puppets with no emotion,
Going from; Point a to point B
Nothing to connect them (No preamble)
No emotions
No motive(s)
‘why is Obi-Wan doing what he’s doing?’
‘I don’t know’
(And I honestly don’t think the wr- iters did either)
And no damn interest
Barely scraping logic..
‘Why is Obi-wan doing what he’s doing,’
‘Because he has the rescue the slaves,’
‘ why does he have to rescue the slaves,?’
‘ because you have to rescue slaves,’
It’s literally circular
Rely- ing completely on the cookie cu- tter,
Resulting in it being as flat as a cookie when rolled over by a rolling pin,
Where It should; Be;
“ why does Obi-Wan want to rescue the slaves?”
“Because of his dedication to his moral compass/ because of his dedication to his generation/ non- clone- ena blers,/ (Whatever you want to put there)
(Hey that was almost emotion from ,Rex)
(We’re 2:29 Min Ut es In, And I’m already salty about the episode refusal to be fun,
-
That’s nice exposition *Palpatine*. Sidious,
Tra- dition (S);
Mill-
That’s literally all I -heard-
-(I assume they’re saying “millions,”)
Which would actually be neat if we got to see some you know human soldiers on the Darkside to counterbalance the whole do you know clone troopers, contrasting the dark side’ s more ethical but none the less toxic practices,
To the light side’s- Gen Break-
De- fiance?
(I think you mean that other Zygerian’s death because we have literally not seen the queen act even remotely rebellious,
Yeah she con- templates possibly free- ing them,
But we haven’t seen her openly communicate with either of these 2 to inform them
And she still wants to keep Anakin,
So she at least has one Jedi,
With the others possibly be blamed on a -prison break-
And literally nothing that we’ve seen com-municating the concept of open - rebel- lion
Or any of the connection between her and the separatist,
Again seriously how am I supposed to feel about that (Also the one person that gives even the slightest bit of emotion and it’s the villain,)
Like I’m surprise’d Dooku’s surprised by that
(Er-)
O-k
Whe-lp
(Also, now there are flues). (Don’t recall seeing them last time,)
Or just sticks with gold on them
(I am very con- fused,)
This seems pretty different
And totally safe
(Also wasn’t the castle blue?)
But I’m not against it because it could work with the symbolism of wild, Or just. Wor -k (I know I’m being way too hop- - eful but I try,
Re- hash-
Easy-
So why is there no other emotion
And why do you look like a caveman,
(Eyebrows constantly furr- Ow- ed)
Also what was with the pro-nunciation and emotion?
Bare,
Also literally no one else is paying attention to that guy? ?
‘ he also doesn’t cause me to have any emotions’
Like seriously I know that it’s a cat person but you still have to show some sentient emotion here
If there’s no emotion, there’s no risk,
(Part of sent- ience)
Att- end,
Again that’s not the cha- llenge I think they were trying to make it out to be; (Un-accountabili- ty) Aka What it would work best as;
Remix;
“ I’ll would never turn away from a challenge,” Anakin said snarkily,
The queen se- duct iv el- y
Taking his light saber, - that works better;
- Ser-iously - Um- No,
(Last time someone fall from a height that high, they died,)
(You have to play by your own rules, )
Wha-
Also again wh -at-
Sky -walker
When ?-
-
Would be nice if you ever feckin showed it,
(Seriously the concept of Obi-Wan having to come to terms at least temporary that his Over-involvement has hurt people is an interesting concept,”
Also bullshit that you know that
(Pretty)
(You’re all enabled and you haven’t spent any time around Obi-Wan)
(That’s a stupid plan and the animation really doesn’t help,)
Zy-ger
Perm - R- i-,
Oh yeah so no reserves, about using the term, “master” After this schism ? - Y-eah - How? - W-at
[The emotions are off the roof and I have no idea
with the scale of escalation
W-at]
Lesh - Li- fe
You did- n’t? - Emo tion-
?
Wh-at?
Who called- the guards?
Seriously if this is such a constantly abusive (tox) relationship than how do they not know,
(Unless the previous guards got killed and these are the newbies,)
Because you don’t act like it all don’t have any of the characteristics generally associated with constantly rein-forc -ed toxicity, Show- ed no emotion including (anxiety and anticipation) In that previous fight,
As well as no negative con- seq- uen ce s for your behavior - Even now your voice is just “ oh I’m dyi-ng- -,’. .
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Meep,
[Something happened
not a Tumblr refresh,
Gist;
There’s absolutely no emotion in the scene and the fact that she just dies after that being the threat is just kind of cheap,
[and the fact that she had absolutely no expression (Or emotion) during that entire fight Not showing any of the general signs - Just no)
And that expression is a weird way way to end
The scene. not the movie that still going, (Un-fortunate- ly)
Uh, why Off to you obviously evil factory, land,”
Kick,
Hey isn’t it that minor antagonist that hasn’t showed up since the last episode? . . . Why? . . . And he included the clone why?
(Oh yeah I want the Jedi Knight Obi-Wan Kenobi, And especially the to my knowledge (default) clone.
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And Rex who is honestly a lot more intimidating,
K-i
[Again this is supposed really be about. Ken-obi but I’m really focusing on Rex,]
Wh- at- -
How?!
They were on a bug?
I-
Ok-
Sorry my memory gave out for a moment at the whole Anakin durp face thing - -
W-h
W-
Wood
Again, how is he supposed to do that?
- Ter- - I-l
Sl-av es
So Ahsoka goes to rescue the slaves while An-a kin, stays here and carves a hole,
En-ough
No emotion!
Oh, I thought he meant Ah -soka - Oh so yeah let’s bring a warship into what seems to have been intended as a stealth mission,
Screw Fitt Ing Re Action-
And-
W-
.
How did that change the fact that they have the button that can kill all the slaves,
(It didn’t)
Obi-won just apparently stopped giving a fr-ick -
Ray-
Well then they were impossible to take out,
F-a - S-l
But only the Tyger-ian (Apologies for any misspelling I mean Ahsoka’s kind,)
“He -at,”
“Cut,”
Ge-n-
Rex did more than Obi-wan,
Also yeah completely forgot about that,
Also he said kill,
[Not further im-prison,” ]
Rex had some rage-
Also you’d think that be Obi-Wan considering how much he’s gotten ,screwed with This entire ,time - Wh,at
Wh -y -
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Wh �� -y - H-ere - How is Rex still fighting guys? - Also thanks a lot Obi-Wan you useless piece of shit,
[Again, would n’t it make sense? .)
W-ell
- You just came into a door just hop them - over- - Lan d-
Wait, How did you just get in, there though,
. Co- vert - ?
O-Kay, new character,
W-h
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(Also oh no they gave plo another fleet
Great )
Ser-iously, what where are these guys coming from? , You’ve literally been allowed this dude to heck around the entire time while Rex did all the hard work
La-me,
Also seriously where was all that - ,coming from- - Wh at-
Where was the emotion? - Hey that had no meaning, symbolism or emotion behind it - whatsoever,
I
?
A-i
- W-h - - - Whelp, was completely boring
Covenants of a good, fun story;
- Set; Excessive in instances that don’t directly affect the story’s up, cohesivity
-Tone; Is appropriate
-Emotions; And appropriate, and consistent and manage to keep a consistent tone,
(Un-nessary, Typically switch-ed for a more logical tone, In works of non-fiction,
Though may be in both, So long as note is given,)
This film (Movie - Gets absolutely none of it right except the basics for a good story
It’s co - hesive- But damn boring and empty,
Story - Re-write. - (I needed something fun after watching that boring documentary,)
So let’s get into it, - (May feature episode -overlap)
Obi-Wan emerges from the carrier, With R -ex,
(Obi-Wan possibly sub- con-ciously mov -ing In Fron -t Of Rex-)
[Or Cody]
The minor antagonist welcome(s) them; Obi-wan trading some banter with him - It being part of a plan to get captured,
Unfortunately somethings went ar-ray and instead of Cody being the back up plan; he got taken with him
The minor antagonist - quickly cuts the chatter - By having the guard (S- bring Cody forward, introducing him as Obi-Wan’s Slave
Giving a veiled threat of “ would be a shame if something happened to such a ,pretty specimen,”
Obi-Wan getting def-ensive,
The atag, Com menting, “ Pretty protective, Of your toy, Aren’t You,”
Before having them thrown somewhere,
Next time, we see them they’re getting e- scor- ted- for gem Min- Ing,
(Possibly some black humor from the vil -ains- about how people will pay, “An arm or leg
*Pos-sibly yours,
For the stuff,’
On the way there one of the guards notices Rex (Cody)’s ey-ing the place. warning him That, ‘He’s not the only one under ob -servation)
Possibly causing a wincing or anxious reaction from them . (I would generally encourage flashbacks to be able to - show the emotion em- ot ion,)
(Under-stand what is going inside their head,)
But for now I’ll stick with the example given by the show which is no flashbacks, The guard making it clear what will happen
Shock- -Ing-
The clone (Eith er) Ha-ving a bad reaction to this,
Knee jerkingly reaching out,
The guard grabbing him and holding him back - - Forced into a distressing circumstance of fa il -in g- The Miss- -ion -
Those two are pretty much out of the action for the rest of the episode being stuck
Obi-Wan can’t do anything without hurting Cody Cody can’t do anything without hurting the slaves - Most of their part is contrasting the condition,
Most of the action is with Ahsoka, Who talks down that dweeb (Maybe someone near-er to her age) And they go break Obi-Wan out so he can back up, Anakin
In the Dooku fight,
The most consistent and clear char- -acter Being Q -ueen, Being a slaver-
If it’s Ana- Kin,
Anakin having to begrudgingly put up with this slaver’s nonsense
Be-grudgingly
- Her talking about how life is slavery and him just not...
Then Dooku Shows Up,
(The whole transition between the mine scene and the Anakin- slaver scene, Being a cut from the sparks in a mine To the jewel on her finger With extra focus being put on the jewels,
Possibly all done with all of them Zy- gar-ian (Or of all the planets that she’s taking people from-
Zygarian Heir loom)
A black stone (in the middle of her chest) By a pendant (Generally implied to be by Count Dooku)
Toxic court-ing implied,
Count Dooku announces a surprise visit,
The Queen is pleased but nervous (Hands behind -back)
“I-”
Putting a wine glass down behind it,
Dooku is immediately aggressive
The queen offering Anakin as a consolation prize
As the youngest and newest to the-ir possible rank,
Dook-u snark Ing,
Dooku threaten -ing to kill
The queen having issue with that whole main characterization being the collector of rare things
(Possibly a reflect- Ion about the no speaking rule)
More likely Dooku dismissing her con- cerns just saying that he can always get her a new one,
“The Queen possibly wincing at a raised hand - if we want to go for indications of physical tox-’
Poss-ibly a conversation about why she put up with him
“He treats me well”
Focus on the necklace and pendent to - contrast with the choking necklace-
Possibly a poison Sub-line
- If you want to go there, - But focusing on Ahsoka, they broke those guys out,
Ahsoka finding a heartbroken Jedi, Explaining that their res -pect ive clone friend, Has given up on them
Ahsoka finding that person,
Who manages to explain that he can’t move either-
To be cut off by the guards who has really had enough of every- thing-
Decided - screw it if pain isn’t going to make you stop and then might as well put them in a life or death situation,
Add-ing time on the clock (Or at least a new var- iable-)
Ahsoka possibly does a whole speech thing (Since seriously we’ve seen none of her involvement or even care about her own spe-cies) Via dem on- Strat Ion-
(Very likely leading to a riot situation,)
As they didn’t plan on the Tagroatians (?) Rebell ing due to crush -ed spirits,
That happens - Those two re- unite and go to fi-ght Dooku
(I never. really cared for the Zy- ger- Ian queen,)
If she lives in then, she’s grateful for them driving off Dooku, Allows them to get off with the slaves,
(Necklace might have information might not,)
*Honestly I felt it made more sense for Anakin to be the one in the mine; The Zy- garian queen, and Obi -Wan hav- ing boomer ban -ter, With Obi-Wan a lot more aware of that stuff, (Show-ing worldliness by identifying the stones) While Anakin compares the circumstance to the one that he used to live in, And the one he enabled Rex living in, While Ahsoka, could team up with a Zy-ger-Ian round her age, Possibly some conversations about enabling- May-be Ahsoka talking about getting a clone command of her own- (If we want the clone commanders to be a constantly featured theme here) Boomer Bait, Busting Anakin out of the mine, Obi-Wan getting hidden behind a cur-tain, And going to heck over Dooku, (Slaves recovered-)
Both the Zy- Gar- Ian- (And a flirtatious promise to return By Obi-wan, ) [contrast Mandalorian] Gets Free- Dom- - End- -
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Ora tenterò di spiegarvi perché siete dei deficienti se pensate che questo sia smart; non solo, lo farò tipo a livelli, ad ogni livello che superate una spiegazione sempre meno elaborata e più facile da comprendere. LIVELLO 1: in generale, uno dei trucchetti retorici più figli di puttana ed abusati per portare una conversazione ad un livello infimo e smontare una persona è la decontestualizzazione. SE AVESTE ASCOLTATO IL DISCORSO (e non lo avete fatto), APPENA pronunciata quella frase Greta aggiunge "AND YET I'M ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES" (ovvero "e comunque io sono una tra i più fortunati"), proseguendo con una spiegazione di cosa significhi essere ancora meno fortunati. LIVELLO 2: la decontestualizzazione non si ferma. Greta sta parlando di clima: ovviamente non si vuole limitare al discorso di "aver rovinato l'infanzia" perché invece di essere a scuola è ad un convegno di sandroni, ma perché è angosciata dal discorso del clima. Il clima è un bene comune, se dovesse guastarsi ci perderebbero tutti. Lei parla di lei come se parlasse per tutti i bambini. Che il discorso sia suo o scritto da qualcun'altro non fa la minima differenza, il messaggio NEL CONTESTO è quello. LIVELLO 3: un altro espediente economico per sminuire è l'esagerazione forzata dei concetti per forzare la coerenza di una persona. Si ok, Greta proviene da un paese RICCHISSIMO e non le manca nulla; ha la possibilità di fare una regata SIMBOLICA su una bella barca. Si ok e allora? Solo perchè uno nasce nella parte fortunata del mondo non può parlare per chi è meno fortunato? Dove mancherebbe la coerenza? Un bimbo asiatico che cuce i palloni secondo voi potrebbe finire al suo posto? Certo che no, deve cucire i cazzo di palloni, siete imbecilli? LIVELLO 4: l'incoerenza dell'incoerenza. Volete forzare la coerenza in una giusta causa? Applicate lo stesso metro di giudizio con voi stessi. Quando vi lamentate di lavorare troppo o per troppo poco vi paragonate a un minatore di cobalto del Congo? Assolutamente no, e nessuno nemmeno sminuisce i vostri problemi nel vostro contesto forzandoli in un contesto diverso. Se vi lascia vostra moglie è normale che soffriate; certo, c'è di peggio, MA CIO' NON VUOL DIRE CHE UNO NON POSSA STARE MALE SE NON E' PROPRIO AL BOTTOM LINE DEL FOTTUTO PEGGIO. (questi sono una sorta di psicologia inversa, del tipo "vogliamo decontestualizzare Greta? Ok, ma decontestualizziamo anche noi stessi e vediamo che succede). LIVELLO 5: l'incoerenza fatta a persona, parte 1. Non solo criticate l'incoerenza di Greta, ma siete pure dei figli della merda. Lei sarà una "viziata che pensa al surriscaldamento globale di 16 anni", voi siete dei viziati egoisti di 30/40/50 anni che semplicemente pensano al fantacalcio e alla propria vita e poco altro. Cosa dovremmo dire di voi? LIVELLO 6: l'incoerenza fatta a persona, parte 2. Voi non vi lamentate del clima? Si però vi lamentate delle tasse troppo alte, poi non fate lo scontrino. Vi lamentate che il vostro lavoro non sia valorizzato, poi "col cazzo che pago per la musica su spotify hahahahaha" e potrei andare avanti per anni. La differenza? Che almeno qualcuno si lamenta del clima, voi pure di cagate. Poi è incoerente allo stesso modo, ma peggio. LIVELLO 7: l'incoerenza fatta a persona, parte 3. Tutta la roba che vi mettete e utilizzate ha più o meno buone chance di essere cucita o saldata da bambini sottopagati in Asia. LIVELLO 8 (boss finale): COSA CAZZO PUBBLICATE I BAMBINETTI NERI AL LAVORO CHE IERI AVETE COMMENTATO LA FOTO DEI BAMBINI ANNEGATI CON SCRITTO "GLI STA BENE STIANO A CASA LORO" Ps: io non sto cercando di difendere Greta. Di Greta me ne frego, io ce l'ho con voi, voglio distruggervi, tipo come un Jedi vuole distruggere un Sith. --- La gente fa schifo. Vabbè si sapeva già, ma daily reminder.
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honestly one of the weirdest things to me as a swtor inhabitant coming into tcw is watching it and like
90% of the actions that ahsoka and anakin take would earn them scores of DS points in any given star war rpg. and okay for anakin that’s not exactly ooc, but it’s like. he’s a struggling jedi, at the time of tcw, not full on Vader, and ahsoka... yeah, she’s anakin’s padawan, so she’s gonna pick up some of his bad habits, but that can only account for so much. who trained this kid that she’s fourteen years old and goes from 0 to torturing prisoners with no remorse whatsoever? like yes, yes, [jedi critical goes here], and it’s easy to see if this is the case why the pt-era jedi were so hated/why the general feeling was ‘and nothing of value was lost’, but it’s like
from a fundamental writing point of view, the jedi are so indefensibly unlikeable in the way they are portrayed, whether its the way they treat their prisoners, the way they treat their padawans, the way they treat the clones, etc. and yet the death of the jedi order is held up as a Tragedy by the narrative? (except when it isn’t, i guess, but i live in an alternate universe where there is no sequel trilogy, so sad)
it also makes it more the clear, though, as to why i draw a sharp line between ‘ce/pt-era jedi’ and ‘tor era jedi’ when it comes to discourse. because there is no way in hell satele ‘therapy session for the captured imperial guardsman’ shan would stand for anakin and ahsoka’s shit for even a microsecond. the tor and pt-era jedi orders share a name and that is literally it. they are even more different than the sith empire and revan’s sithaboos (and let’s face it, most of the fandom doesn’t bother to differentiate between those two, either).
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i like how mace and obi-wan’s objection to using the Force to make someone spill their inner secrets is less ‘that’s a really fucked up breach of personal autonomy (and borderline if not actual torture)’ and more ‘okay but we could end up destroying his mind altogether if we’re not careful’.
like. yeah, as true as the second one is... arguments from pragmatism are not much arguments at all. torture isn’t (just) wrong because it doesn’t work, it’s wrong because it’s torture.
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i mean there’s also a question of ‘what the hell are jedi doing in military command positions anyway’ but that’s a larger cinematic era issue that i don’t really feel like tackling ever
(imagine being an actual general who’s dragged themselves up the command structure tooth and nail, and along comes some arrogant git with a lightsaber who gets a rank you earned with blood sweat and tears, merely because of an accident of birth. it’s no damn wonder the jedi were so unpopular...)
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i think fundamentally the thing that disturbs me the most about the cavalier attitude that tcw has towards inflicting violence on the clones isn’t that it’s held by the jedi (true as that is) or even by the separatists (true as that also is) but that it’s held by the narrative
like tcw is incredibly cavalier about its war violence anyway (’star war is war propaganda’ is a meme that will forever hold truth but i think is particularly applicable to tcw, pathé news homages and all) which is already concerning in a children’s tv show (violence against The Enemy is always justified, and the enemy are literally dehumanised, whether it’s because they are aliens/alien zombies or because they are droids - the personhood of the enemy may be obvious to a critical viewer but it is never once acknowledged by the writing, never mind other characters)
but it then extends that to the redshirts on its own side. even having a name is no guarantee that a clone trooper will survive the episode they are introduced in, and while it’s not unreasonable that the separatists would dehumanise the clones, the jedi go out of their way to do so as well. the one occasion we see ahsoka actually get upset about losing men under her command, it’s simultaneously introduced because she’s upset that she lost as a commander and not she’s upset that these men are dead and then anakin ‘possessive attachment incarnate’ skywalker tells her to build a bridge and get over it, with the support of the narrative structure
like it would be one thing if the detachment on the part of the jedi commanders was shown to be a result of (say) their doctrine as jedi or as a (normal, if fucked up) coping method for commanding officers in wartime (especially one both not trained to be commanders and lacking any real support structure)
but not only do the jedi care about jedi, they only care about jedi - and not only this, but the narrative itself only cares about jedi. even the clones who are named, recurring characters still get treated abruptly and as afterthoughts by the narrative. who cares how many clone troopers suffered and even died trying to prevent an outbreak of space ebola? padmé and ahsoka suffered, and they’re the ones who really matter.
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fancyfade replied to your post: “listen, i love luminara, but it concerns me how quickly she gave up on...” :
Honestly I read it as the writers trying to make anakib look better (by making. Luminary look worse). :/
yeah that was my take on it too. but like it’s annoying because luminara is shown to be very protective of padawans (in that episode where she and ahsoka are trying to protect nute gunray from rescue/assassination) and she’s even obviously proud of barriss when they meet up with the gang on geonosis and she’s showing off bariss’s commitment and preparation but then suddenly we’ve got to cast anakin’s obsessive Attachment in a positive light so she just shrugs and ‘well i can sense that my padawan is still alive but i’m just gonna let her die because uh reasons i guess’ and these writers, man.
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‘trap was my friend, but i’m not even going to be remotely upset that he just abruptly died in front of me (never mind blink at the idea of threatening him with my lightsaber a few scenes ago)’
and bariss. bariss. who i promised to stan, yes, but who made no attempt to remove the parasite already halfway out of trap before sticking him with her saber. stab now, worry about the whys and wherefores later.
i mean. i guess i understand better why clone wars fans hate the jedi so much...
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Do you think it's possible that Force lightning can be used, albeit carefully, by light side or light leaning Force users? IIRC, in the Legends continuity, both Luke and Mara Jade can use lightning, though it's understandable with the latter being a former Hand. I could kind of see where you could control it to be closer to a high setting on a taser as opposed to a full lightning storm.
tbh i don’t see why not.
i don’t know how Canon(tm) it is, but i’ve always figured that “ways in which one uses the Force” are generally fairly alignment-neutral, and it’s what one does with it (and how one does it) that determines where one is on a moral spectrum.
to use an example: someone who connected to the Force either through practicing mindfulness (LS, broadly) or bottling up and weaponising their emotions (DS, broadly) could conjure Force lightning. however, it’s something that’s generally done by shitters because electrocuting people is a shitty thing to do, not because the conjuring of lightning requires one to be a shitter.
in a way i guess i’ve always also parsed Force lightning as a raw manifestation of energy - an extremely basic, if inefficient, manifestation of power. it’s used a lot by Sith in large part because it’s dramatic and showy and Sith, whether ce or tor, are fucking drama queens. when palps uses it, it’s as much a statement and a warning and a show as it is a weapon. you see this irl too, with sith writers using lightning for the #aesthetic. this isn’t a criticism - it’s an effective way of quickly demonstrating space magic.
there are some things which are never going to be LS - throttling someone is another Inarguably Terrible thing. but alternative uses of that power, to reach out and manipulate or hold another’s body - restraining someone, for example - may not be inherently evil/DS, dependent on the circumstances.
ofc, i also take the view that mind tricks are ds/evil things, as one is robbing sentient beings of their free will, but the star war canon associates them not just with jedi but also/conflates them as LS power/uses thereof, so shrug emoji
so to get back to the question - yeah i think it could absolutely be used by light siders, and if controlled through training/practice could be used as something akin to a taser. it’s worth mentioning that even a taser is still a pretty unpleasant thing to be hit by, and it would be very easy to accidentally kill someone, if not through damage from the lightning then by causing a cardiac arrest or some other incidental injury.
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blog tags update:
#ce jedi critical for discussion of the cinematic era jedi
#tor jedi critical for discussion of the tor era (swtor) jedi
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blackhelms-helmtes replied to your post: “you know what i’m mad about something else though (appo, mad about...”:
I don't remember if it was needed for transferring the trial to government, but kicking Ahsoka out did look like an attempt to wash their hands off of a stinky situation and personally that part felt like spinelessness. And then council used some of 'it will bring bad pr if we announce who really ordered the clone army' while dumbing their way through last episodes.
the thing is that ahsoka was accused of pretty serious crimes (murder/manslaughter, property damage, treason during a time of war, an act of terrorism, etc) so like. her being arrested and tried by the government is entirely reasonable and i would fully expect it to happen (the fact she is also sixteen years old and there are apparently 0 legal professionals in the gffa notwithstanding)
her being removed from the jedi is a separate matter and yeah, it’s readable that they’re trying to dissociate themselves from, you know, someone accused of treason and terrorism, but at the same time, religious orders are allowed to have standards of behaviour and i would question them if they didn’t
now, their withdrawing support even before she’d been proven guilty? absolutely was shitty and politicking on their part, yes. i won’t argue that, and it’s one of the reasons i’m glad that, for all i loathe the storyline, it didn’t end with ahsoka jumping straight back into the jedi like nothing had happened
and yeah the ‘we can’t possibly reveal that a) the clones were ordered by dooku and b) they have mind control chips in them because it will make us look bad’ is a spectacularly shitty decision but it’s one of those things that honestly i want to file under It’s Bad Writing rather than The Jedi Were Shitters basically because it has to have happened for literally any of these things to have been revealed in tcw and yet for episode 3 to proceed as it did. because if the jedi do the intelligent thing even for half a moment when presented with this information, upwards of fifty percent of episode 3′s Shenanigans fall apart/can no longer occur
strictly watsonian reading? the jedi were not just stupid but actively harmful in their decision making, no argument. doylist? the writers of tcw were really fucking bad at creating plots that had tension and intrigue in and of themselves while not upsetting whatever George had planned for the movie trilogy and this is exhibit n
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of course, it also says nothing complimentary about the jedi that once again, there was a slave-owning/trading society that they knew full well existed and did what it did, and they just... left it there to do its thing. it’s not as though Dathomir was a particularly militarily or politically powerful world, either - unlike, say, the Hutt cartels, or the Zygerrians.
yeah, they had priorities in the war, but what about in the years leading up to it? dismantling the Dathomiri slave trade and freeing the Nightbrothers was not outside of the Jedi’s ability. and yes, while that would come under ‘interfering with non-Jedi Force cults’ (never mind with other cultures), the Republic and the Jedi do not have a Trek-style Prime Directive. if they’d cared to, they could have interfered (and frankly - the right of others not to be enslaved somewhat trumps the right of some to their religious or cultural practices. you’d think this would not be a controversial position, but star war fandom is capable of many vile, stupid things). but they didn’t - they chose not to, chose to prioritise other things, chose to look the other way.
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Yoda: [paraphrase] Slavery is a great tool for the rise of the Sith.
um. gee. well. maybe. you should. you know. not use it. perhaps? just a thought???
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