#can you guess Vs fave popstars!?

[lonerpunk]

V wip

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For now most of my progress on V in Daz3d has been with his outfits. His sculpt is still very early stages.

[problematic-camren]

This is random but when did you decide to unstan camila? And why exactly? Its weird considering how all camren shippers are resolving to one side or the other. And all the one who still pretend to be ot5 are just a bunch of delulu/hypocrites in my opinion considering the amount of hostility between both sides. I get that some relate more to lauren but i wanna know your reasoning. Especially since camila is the one who doesnt make shipping camren feel like a crime.

1. First of all, I never said I’m unstanning C. Was there a memo?

I don’t know why I have to explain to any one of you, when I don’t ask C stans why they decided to unstan 5h and stick to C? My quick answer? It’s life. We jump from one popstar to another. it’s totally acceptable and understandable. That’s how music and pop culture is – one distraction after the other.

That being said, I’ll still try to give you something. (Hopefully this won’t attract pressed anons because guess what, we can stan one artist without automatically hating on others).

THIS IS GONNA BE LONG AF BEC I’LL TRY TO SAY EVERYTHING IN ONE POST JUST SO I DON’T HAVE TO ANSWER FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS. (Anons, please don’t start.) because why are we still talking about this, it’s almost 2018. We all are living in an era where this fandom is so divided that it’s almost impossible to glue it back together. Even ot4s are fighting over which single is better, or which fan loves their fave the most – yeah, 5h fans are further divided into sub-stanning. At least camilizers only have one fave to defend (and one group to hate on), while ot4s have camilizers and outside fandoms to fend off, solo stans to fight, and fellow ot4s who fight over singles/non-singles/unreleased tracks. Like for real? Am I in a playground? Or royal rumble?

Anyway…

2. To be clear, I still listen to Camila, although I’m not as updated anymore. But that doesn’t mean I’m unstanning. It’s just a matter of allocating my time and interests. Especially when I’m going through my own personal shit rn.

What I said was, I stan 5H MORE, but I still respect and acknowledge Camila’s talents. I’m still a fan of both, even though unequally. I’m not a die hard stan, so I can casually admire both sides without harboring any ill feelings. I mean, just weeks ago I have introduced Havana to my parents (which they’re now humming every now and then) – is that me unstanning?

So while I agree (and I’ve said this before) that there’s no such thing as “ot5s” anymore, it’s still possible to be ot5 as in “neutral”. When I say there’s no ot5, it’s because all of us are leaning towards one side. People may deny this, but it’s true. Ot5 is just a term now for fans who decide to stay in between, who choose to not feed on the hate, and choose to not be involved in drama or Stan wars. They still enjoy both 5h and cc, BUT, you guys must admit (at least to yourselves) that even if you claim you’re ot5, you still lean towards one side (even if it’s just one percent higher), whether you prefer 5h more or CC, you simply have your favorite. You may secretly wish that one side will chart higher than the other (but of course wish that BOTH will do well), you may wish that one side will win an award first (although you’ll be vocal that you want both sides to win)… In short, we can still clap for both 5h and CC, but we’ll be clapping extra harder for one side (maybe secretly… Maybe your ass will be clapping so as not to be obvious).

That’s reality, at least that’s what I’ve noticed in ALL of the people I have interacted with in this fandom. All of them claim they’re still ot5, but all of them admit they stan one side more than the other. No hard feelings. It’s life. People are free to stan whoever they want.

3. This is the explanation I can give you why I stan 5H more. It’s because I stan 5H as a group. When I got into this fandom, I fell in love with 5h as a group before I fell in love with Lauren lol. Camren may have introduced me to 5h, but my shipping doesn’t affect my love for the group and all of its members.

Because I wanted to see them grow and leave their mark AS A GROUP. I wanted to see them make an impact as TLC or DC or SG did during their time, which I never did with PCD or any other GG in recent times. I simply didn’t care before. 5H made me care.

I stan them as a group because they made me care about stanning a girl group. They even brought back my interest in mainstream music. The group did that, not Camren, not Lauren. The group. My solo fave is just a bonus. Because I have been a fan of solo artists here and there, but never did they make me waste my time, my entire day and attention, like 5h did. Even with my most favorite bands, I never felt as heartbroken as I did when 5h split up. That’s what 5h did to me – the group made me feel something. I love the girls individually, but I love them more as a group. As 5H.

I’m a harmonizer first before I am a solo stan. And I’m afraid that once 5h breaks up, I’ll move on. I may occasionally check up on L and the others, but I feel like once the group is over, so is my passion as a harmo. That’s life.

I never stayed (I’ve come so close to leaving this fandom just these past few months) here for individual stanning. Although I’m an L girl, and I believe in their individual talents (and I know they’re all capable of doing something individually), my major reason why I’m still in this fandom is because of 5h as a group and what they’re capable of.

Basically, what I stan is their potential to leave a legacy reminiscent of their predecessors, and that’s why I’m still here in this fandom even if I’m seriously sick and tired of this drama bullshit.

I stan 5H for what they symbolize. A group of girls realizing their dreams against all odds.

4. Whether I ship Camren or not, it’s irrelevant. Idk what’s the correlation of shipping Camren and stanning 5h.

Are you saying that since Camila has not openly denounced Camren and ranted it was never real ever, that I should automatically stan Camila harder? Is that your point?

Because while Camren brought me to this fandom, as I’ve said above, I stan 5h (even when Camila was still in the group) as a girl group, NOT as a group with Camren in it. My Camren shipping is another story. I can separate reality vs fantasy. That’s why it’s easier for me to ship Lauren with anyone else other than Camila. And I do respect Camila’s gracious and kind treatment to CS and Camren, but like I said, I don’t stan 5h because of Camren.

To end this long ass bullshit, I want to clarify that just because I stan 5H more, doesn’t mean I don’t like Camila.

Just because two sides are fighting now, doesn’t mean that a fan has to pick a side and be bitter towards the “enemy” and can’t be a fan of both. It’s not automatic that if you like one side, you hate the other. It’s not how it’s supposed to be.

Just let stans stan who they want to stan. Instead of questioning people why they don’t stan certain artists, question people why they have to hate on people to validate their love for their faves.