#but yeah. I don't trust that no other fandom will get petty and bitter in the event it happened again

[cocomere]

Holy shit, that's amazing. Hats off to Dominionblr and especially Fluffy; I can appreciate the grind.

...Because by my count I put in over 300 votes from about 6pm EST to the end of poll at I believe 8am EST. Also by hand, using a method I discovered during the last poll. Unfortunately, its drawbacks meant I struggled to keep up when y'all woke up and decided to get serious.

I now have the sneaking suspicion that it was Fluffy and I who were voting against each other back and forth at one point. I could tell it was one, MAYBE two people, and it lasted a while...that would be fucking hilarious if I'm right. Possibly the MVPs of both sides duking it out for a brief time one on one is just too poetic not to find funny, y'know?

We def knew y'all would do counterfraud-- it'd be crazy if that didn't happen tbh-- but we did underestimate the scale of it.

Lessons learned all around. Dreblr will remember this for the next poll we're in.

This is a fraction of what I cast (I won't say my estimate of what my final total was, but it's...not a small number). I only saved 20 in a row bc it sounded funny to have that as proof of my exploits.

I'd love to know what method Dominion peeps came up with to snatch the ground out from under us so hard in an hour and a halfish. We were up by 3-4% before whatever madness y'all cooked up was deployed-- I'm dying to know what sort of coordination and occurred for that to happen!

I love voter fraud p2

[simplepotatofarmer]

This is just me but something I was a bit worried about for a while is that there might be some bitterness between the Dream fans and other people in the mcyt fandom. Like I get it, some of the people there were awful and did whole harassment campaigns. But…I don’t know sometimes I go to some blog and find a bitter post about a qsmp or some of the mcyt people and o get a bit worried that some might lash out against them. Like yeah they’re not perfect and I get why they’re angry. But sometimes I worried that some people might take it too far and end up doing the same as the antis. sorry if it dont makes sense but this is just me

I mean, you've got to understand that we went through over a year of not just false accusations (which people still spread despite being disproven and despite understanding how terrible false accusations are especially after recent events) but through absolutely awful harassment that hasn't stopped.

there's lies that are spread (dream had airhorns playing during the 'uieud' video?? which did not happen), people supporting not just assault but ableism, homophobia, and antisemitism solely because the 'other side' was dream, and people making posts in mcytblr spheres talking about how dteam fans should die.

and then as an ojibwe person who was watching the qsmp, it was awful and disappointing to see that all go down and to feel genuinely scared and unheard when voicing my feelings on it. and that's just one event, that's not counting being forced to leave discord servers or feeling unwelcome in them.

i don't know how to explain how bad it is. just recently a large mcyt blog made a post about chasing off dream fans:

if there's bitterness, trust me, we'd rather there not be! we'd love to just be able to exist but it's not possible half the time.

things are getting better but man. i lost friends for venting about being harassed because they were more focused on how i was venting.

none of us want this. every single person i know would love for it to go back to how it was.

and i get what you're saying. i do think people take it too far sometimes. i'm absolutely against that kind of thing. i do understand, though, how deeply hurt people are. and i think there's a level of hypocrisy that happens where it's okay to lash out at and make pretty awful jokes about dream and his fans and when one of his fans calls something out, it becomes 'petty fandom drama'. like getting my concerns about racism on a server i was actively watching (and still do for people like niki) dismissed as 'well you don't like the server because you're a dream fan so of course' sucked. or people making jokes about death threats, stalking, and SA threats being called out becomes drama, y'know?

basically, i don't know man. it sucks. i had to change my phone number. i had threats made against my kids and pets. and a lot of it was dismissed so i'm not surprised there's bitterness. people were deeply hurt. people are upset at some of the hypocrisy shown (it's okay for this cc to do xyz but things from years ago are still brought up re: dream).

which means, yeah, sometimes they do take it too far and i don't like it and i think it's become this very toxic cycle that's probably never gonna stop until people just. leave things alone, y'know?

and stop thinking there's an 'acceptable' target for harassment because there's not.

i know you get it, though, and i appreciate that. i really wish other people would be as understanding.

[midge-maisel]

Why you don't want gmw to be picked up?

its an accumulation of things tbh

bc the quality of the show has dipped severely and i think it’d be silly to put all the blame on disney for it- i honestly believe michael jacobs isn’t nearly as good of a writer as people like to make him out to be.

bc i’m worried if the show continues he’ll do to riley what he did to eric. eric started out as this loveable but slightly naive dude but he wasn’t like, ridicuously dumb. as the series went on he fell into the “joey” trope and got even more ridic. 

bc i’m a bitter shawngela stan that will never forgive

bc i honestly don’t think michael jacobs knows how to write female friendships. i like the idea of riley/maya more than the actual “product” if you will. they’re honestly so mean to each other and not in a jokingly manner like friends are. bc i’m tired of two female friends being pitted against each other over a boy.

bc the fandom is wack and the cast [besides uriah who deserves nothing] deserves better

bc even though i wanted them to delve into more serious issues, i don’t trust michael jacobs with the results. fuck, he couldn’t even get a female writer or female director to be a part of an episode LITERALLY ABOUT FEMINISM. next he’ll get white ppl to write about racism against zay!!!

to further my last point, every “lesson” on this show felt forced. this, imo, is partly the bmw audiences fault because they constantly were messaging ben and danielle and michael before the show even aired to be assured the show would have “lessons” but… that was never what boy meets world was about. it was a coming of age show that happened to teach lessons, and the “forced” feel of some of them was just so 90s it worked. it doesn’t in the 2010s.

constant lack of character development from anyone that isn’t riley or maya, and even when they have development its constantly just retconned the next episode. see: maya “i finally have hope!!!” *next episode* “y’all my life is the worst” [exaggeration but you get my point]

the show is fake deep

etc etc etc theres more but i cant rlly think off the top of my head

i realize that this is a lot and some of it you may disagree with or find petty and you’re more than entitled to disagree w/me. i would still watch the show bc i’m in it till the bitter end at this point and also recognize that this show isnt FOR ME as a 21-year-old woman and so many of my issues just… really arent relevant. but yeah!!!! again pls dont kill me for this ok.