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paimonial-rage · 1 year ago
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continuation of ur kazuha reply: him not gaining feelings consciously doesn’t eliminate the idea of him gaining feelings unconsciously. hypothetically, let’s say he does gain feelings unconsciously but eventually realises of his feelings, how would he take to that? would he be the type to be disturbed at his feelings or is he more accepting? basically, how would kazuha take to realising he has a crush on someone? — @milkstore
You’re definitely right about him gaining feelings without realizing. I’m going to be honest here, the way he’d react to falling for someone would probably change depending on the situation. That being said, if you want the answer I like the most… Although he’d see the signs, he’d stubbornly ignore them. He’d notice that he’s drawn to reader. He’d notice he can’t ignore them. He’d notice he wants to stay with them. But giving in would go against what he believes he needs to do. So he’d do his best to avoid reader, while also simultaneously being unable to ignore them, so he’d be drawn back.
If you ask my personal opinion, kinda going back to his character quest and the Golden Apple Archipelago arc, Kazuha is the kind of person that tends to ignore things that makes him uncomfortable. He prioritizes having his peace of mind over everything else. I’m not saying he’s ignoring trauma from the past, but I believe he has a tendency to convince himself that he’s okay with things when he’s really not. I mean, both events focus on his relationship to his family. At the end of both events, he says he wishes to learn more of his family and to fulfill what he perceives to be his obligations to them. But where did we see him after? Barely in Inazuma.
So to say he’d be either disturbed or accepting would be inaccurate, in my opinion. Kazuha is like water. He takes the path of least resistance. Feeling something toward a situation represents resistance, so he’d rather just pretend it doesn’t exist. He’ll only confront it when he absolutely has to. I kinda go in more about it here and here.
#interactions#kazuha#kaedehara kazuha#Kazuha x reader#character analysis#long story short kazuha is avoidant#i’m not saying he’s in denial about everything or that he’s secretly super anxious or traumatized inside#most things truly don’t bother him#but he avoids thinking about the things that do#if he wasn’t that way he would’ve left the crux#the golden apple archipelago arc came out at the end of inazuma#as did his character quest#but where did we see him during the sumeru arc?#primarily in liyue#and then the thing with tomo#he says he’s fine with the result of that match but can you really be okay with the death of a close friend?#as for the scenario i’ve created in this post it follows the story i had planned for the letter fic i wrote#while he wouldn’t want to devote himself to reader he doesn’t exactly want them to change either#so he subtly tries controlling them so they don’t#and then it culminates to this point that he’s forced to confront their feelings for him (and his for them)#because reader ends up ******* *** ********* ****#because they’re just fed up with him and decide to move on their life without his approval#i really need to finish that story#ugh but i have so many thoughts towards kazuha#i think deep down he’s afraid of change#also i dislike her but i am very in love with yoimiya’s opinion of him haha#however i cannot deny that yoimiya is the type of person that’d be very accurate in her analyses of people#albeit a bit overly optimistic
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nacrelysis · 1 year ago
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wanderer as nahida's right-hand is perfect. they both have a history of abandonment, neglect, and exploitation, plus for similar reasons.
nahida was imprisoned in the sanctuary of surasthana for centuries, left to wither as a failed god her people chased the shadow of a 'better' ideal: greater lord rukkhadevata.
wanderer was abandoned by his mother in shakkei pavilion because he was the failed prototype for her ideal ruler of eternity: a puppet who could execute the lightning's will without regret, whom she intended to create after having makoto die in her arms.
the people involved in wanderer and nahida's pasts - both, in a sense, have convinced themselves that their actions were for the greater good. the sages don't even see nahida is a god, much less a human - to them, all she is is the reminder of what sumeru once had and never could again.
raiden ei abandoned kunikuzushi because she saw him cry, and, knowing he could never be the shogun she needed, left him to his own devices. it's been stated in canon that ei believed she was setting kunikuzushi free. and maybe she was, during those dark days after inazuma's first archon died. but, perhaps, what drove kunikuzushi to assign her actions as 'abandonment' was the fact that he was, in a sense, a lesser god. that he was created for reasons he didn't know. the first thing kunikuzushi did upon creation was cry - in the same way that a baby's first instinct is to cry, because their first impulse is to seek help. from this perspective, the thing kunikuzushi needed the most was guidance and acceptance from his creator (because he knew he was created by someone), while the thing ei thought he needed the most was solitude. miscommunication in the delivery room, am i right.
raiden ei's motives were not the same as the sages - you could argue that she really did believe she was doing it for kuni's benefit. i think she did. but what stands is that both these acts feature a theme of abandonment and neglect. they were carried out by people in the aftermath of grief, executed as neglect upon the people they were done to. and these acts catalyzed nahida and wanderer's development into the characters they are now.
they are not the same as the other archons.
venti's arc is focused around mending the wounds of the past, though it could be implied that he is re-assessing what "freedom" means for his nation. zhongli stepped back as yanwang dijun to allow liyue to move forward on its own while he could re-integrate as one of their common folk. ei is brought forward to re-evaluate her decisions as inazuma's absentee god.
good or bad, they all have experience with being a god.
nahida doesn't. she was intentionally kept from fulfilling her duties as archon for hundreds of years. anything she learns now, once free, is the first time she's learning it as kusanali.
wanderer can't. he tried. he took the electro gnosis and tried to transplant it into his own body - but, at the moment as we know it, gods technically can't be artificially created. the closest dottore could get was a mimicry.
so you have this unique circumstance, where nahida and wanderer both have no idea of what being a god really entails. but they don't need to know what being a god is like, do they? they just need to know how to be an archon: how to protect, how to decide, how to execute.
nahida is very forgiving. in my opinion, she's too forgiving (only because i hate the sages and would've called cps on them if i could). she sees the best in humanity. she works to engage with her people. she tries to listen to their hopes and dreams while moving towards a collective vision for the nation.
wanderer is cynical. he's been betrayed three times, in his words, and been taken advantage of far more than thrice. wanderer has seen the worst of humanity, and he continues to carry this critical eye. he's not afraid to do what nahida can't do (go undercover + beat up people) and he's not afraid to confront people when their motives stray towards the worse.
wanderer can demonstrate the things that define the worst of humans, while nahida can show wanderer the things that make humanity worth preserving. wanderer can execute orders with precision and make decisions on the fly (ha), but nahida is here to level his head and point out clues, motives, or implications that perhaps were not considered before.
and, isn't it a fitting conclusion to the sumeru archon quests? two former puppets, both alike in dignity, in sumeru where we lay our scene. together, they can reconcile the pains of their past - and together, they can build a better, kinder future together...the kind that both must have, at their worst, dreamed of living.
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kyogre-blue · 11 months ago
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Finally went back and did Inazuma act 2 on my alt. I forgot how short it is. There's like... four conversations, two cutscenes, and that's it.
Although there are a lot of small issues with the logic and they fall down hard in terms of the pacing of the character arcs, I will stand by my opinion that Inazuma is still a far more interesting story than Sumeru.
Sumeru is just... some evil dudes, of whom we see only one, want to make a god, and for this they choose... Scaramouche? Who is a non-entity except when he vomits out his backstory. And Nahida is there, don't you feel sorry for her because uuh reasons. Don't even get me started on the pointless diversions of going to Ormos (why), the dream loop of time wasting (just tell me the answer up front), and the entire pointless whatever out in the desert (literally exists just to provide one lore cutscene and waste our time).
Inazuma at least has a potentially interesting conflict, characters who have their own varied stakes in it, and they even use NPCs better.
I didn't have any particularly notable observations on second pass, but I did find these points funny:
There's a bunch of small "???" moments if you use your brain while watching this, including the entire situation regarding Thoma being a public sacrifice (???) to mark the 100th vision taken. Like, why did they tie him up, did he resist? Why was he not using a fake vision, like it's implied Yoimiya did to get around the decree? What are the political implications of all this, because it's very interesting if you think about it? In general tho, it's just hilarious if you remember that Shinobu and Itto both did not have any reaction to losing their visions, so maybe Thoma isn't even slightly in danger here.
That said, the escalation is pretty good. I do like the concept.
Teppei is actually pretty cute. And I do think they tried to make you care about the war via both the civilians in act 1 and the soldiers in act 2.
I still find it hilarious that the culmination of act 2 is a "fight of honor" where both sides select "their finest warrior" for "single combat" and then Sara sends three different randos to fight us. I think during the third fight, the resistance troops start complaining that we're doing consecutive battles, but it's dialogue during the battle, so I'm not exactly going to be able to read it, you know? In general, it's worth noting that this duel of honor isn't meant to have any actual stakes. It's just for moral and intimidation, which is why they still have a big battle afterwards. This is in the text, but it's very counterintuitive, so it feels bizarre.
During the cutscene where Kokomi appears, Beidou says she hopes Kokomi can help pay for all these mercenaries she hired and Kazuha calls Gorou an old friend. This is uh sure some interesting implications, but it really does not do an adequate job explaining why the hell they're here. Kazuha's characterization and supposed arc are a shit show in general, of course.
I do recall that the writing quality, such as it is, plummets in act 3. They probably needed 4 acts, realistically, one for Watatsumi and Teppei, one more for returning to Narukami, but I guess at this point they wanted to have the same schedule as Liyue's release? It really did not work out.
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irl-kaeya · 2 years ago
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Genshin Diary Entry #2
I didn't play much last night lol, probably because I keep picking up the game on nights before going to work. That and my dumbass forgot the new update would be dropping that evening so I had to log off regardless. But I think finished the section in Gandharva Ville and I'm about to go to Sumeru City. Despite playing for what felt like just an hour, SO MUCH happened!
I kinda regret not streaming cause I had a LOT to say while playing through the dreams sequence. That whole area was soooo pretty and I love how trippy it got at times. The part where you piece together the scenery puzzle and then the window turns into a painting? Very sexy and scary. I have two main point of interest from that section however; Inazuma and the Abyss Herald.
I'm really curious why all the alternate locations on the sequence were all based off of Inazuma. I was sure after the first one that the next two would be Liyue and Mondstat but nah, it was all Inazuma. My opinion/theory kinda connects with the Abyss Herald point, but basically, I think it could taken as further proof that Aether did NOT have a good time in Inazuma and it has been solidified in his subconscious as a "fear setting" for his nightmares.
I LOVED the Abyss Herald part, mostly cause it canonised my thoughts on how Aether was affected by learning what Lumine is doing. The last two Dain Quests had us learning about her involvement, but I don't feel like we got enough of a response from Aether to see how he's processing all if it. Until now that is. I know it's difficult for the game to portray these feelings normally, since they've decided to have a silent, almost "blank" main protagonist. But it was never going to get far with such a specific narrative and character motive. The dreams sequence was GREAT because we got to see Aether's inner feelings and thoughts in a way that didn't feel "out of presentation". I'm glad we got confirmation that Aether is in denial of Lumine's betrayal, and aware of it too. He's actually scared that she's abandoned him and will treat him as an enemy, but he's still going to continue his journey the way he's started it. Because he's in denial partially. I'm wondering whether this Summer arc might change the way he deals with that since he seems to be confronting it now.
Anyways yeah clearly I have a lot to say, and that was just about the dream sequence. I think I'll play more after tomorrow and not earlier, so I'll be playing during a night when I can actually stay up past 11 pm 💀
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streetlights-was-taken · 2 years ago
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haven't done the 3.3. AQ yet but I'm seeing reactions from others and I wanted to get my thoughts down (with respect to fic writing) before I start the quest myself
if we get wanderer who sees relationships as transactional in 3.3, as some of the others suggest (I'm only inferring, since I actually try to avoid spoilers), then I'm gonna be SO happy because that means my characterization of him in lltll is doable. we haven't seen much of him yet in lltll, but I've been trying to hint that he likes to make "deals" with people because it gives him a sense of security on where he stands in a relationship and what he can expect from others and what others expect from him
so for example, he planted a directive in lumine's head that ensures lumine won't be his enemy. with albedo, he makes a less forceful deal; they kinda use each other and as long as there's mutual benefit, they are allies. albedo will give him access to irminsul and reach true divinity and wanderer will help him find the truth (which, since this is a canon divergence fic, might not be the same "truth" as in canon)
since this is pre-sumeru wanderer, I'm still shaky on how to characterize him. although because I did plan on making him God (capital G) in my fic, so I guess it's not too far off from pre-sumeru scaramouche.
idk what'll happen to his name lmao. I haven't even started the AQ yet since I can't commit to one. "kintsukuroi/kintsugi" is kinda nice and gives a bit of scarabedo feels. but I already used "kunikuzushi" so I will probably stick to that? we'll see
as for dottore... oh man. I did have a plan to take care of the fatui in the fic so I don't have to think of how to deal with the canon divergence of every character. basically I'm blackboxing it to "abyss order goes to war against the fatui so everyone to the west of liyue is distracted because of this." signora is the only one in liyue/mondstadt region to make sure the war doesn't end up there (per zhongli's contract not to harm liyue) and also to keep an eye out for scaramouche, who has gone MIA during the whole thing. sumeru arc didn't happen (I really wish I set the fic up so it did though, but I'm too far in to change things now). idk, would that even work??
man I'm never writing a canon divergent fic this long again, this is too hard :/
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genshin-djinn · 4 years ago
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Genshin Impact Chapter 1 Act 3: A Reaction.
Chapter 1 Act 3 is what took my experience with this game from “good game” to “masterpiece”.
THIS POST CONTAINS MANY, MANY SPOILERS FOR GENSHIN IMPACT CHAPTER 1: ACT 3
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Genshin Impact has some problems— actually, it has a shit ton of problems. But during the fight against hordes of Fatui, with the Adepti channeling their abilities through my gang, flying through them as Oz, decimating them with Diluc— I just thought, this is the best time I’ve had in a mobile game in my life.
This game might not be perfect now— it’s only a quarter of the way done if we’re counting Karenri’ah. But it will be a fucking masterpiece once it’s all out. If this is the level of quality we’re getting for our archon quests, this game is going to be an amazing time on story alone.
KEQING
I love Keqing with all my heart. If she were alive today she would be a socialist here to topple the ruling 1%. When ningguang asked Aether who they trusted more, her or Keqing, I hit the Keqing button as fast as possible.
I think one of my favorite things about Keqing is that she’s so completely honest, which is unusual for a Liyue politician. If she doesn’t like something, she’ll speak out against it. If she thinks something else should be happening, she’ll make it happen. She can probably be deceitful at times, but in general she’s straightforwards in that she wants a government for the people and by the people.
I can’t wait for her story quest!
NINGGUANG
pretty.... voice pretty....
Ningguang is cool. Her JP voice is very pretty, like she could do ASMR videos online or smth. One thing I decidedly did not like about Ningguang is how her personality just ???? flips? In the middle of the quest, for no reason other than “because plot”.
It’s established that Ningguang cares about two things more than anything— the Jade palace and Mora. Why, then, would she destroy the Jade palace for the sake of Liyue? I get that she’s a good person at heart at all, but I want to see more of her indecision, her brain saying “mora” and her heart saying “Liyue”. The way she just flips on a dime isn’t really strange but it does contradict with her preexisting characterization.
Childe’s Boss Fight!
The section of this quest from Childe’s fight to the Adepti + Qixing battle is just nonstop adrenaline.
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Childe is IMO a lot more fun than Dvalin (sorry Dvalin). I’m at WL5 and have a tendency to play fast and loose with important mechanics like.... dodging, for example.... and Childe’s Mask Electro form ended up destroying my team. I killed him with Guoba because everyone else besides Xiangling was dead. I
Another thing I really enjoy about Childe’s boss fight is that in the irrationalities of Childe as a character, it actually makes sense. Genshin is decent at making weekly bosses logical excursions— Andrius wants you to get stronger, Dvalin’s weekly fight is ~~all a dream~~; but tbh sometimes the weekly bosses don’t make sense. Andrius wants to train us, not murder us! How does dvalin, a dream slash memory that doesn’t exist, manage to knock someone out?
Childe as a weekly boss actually makes perfect sense. He’s an adrenaline junkie addicted to the thrill of fighting people— to put this in modern AU terms, he’s the guy who’s first in line to ride the rollercoaster that failed all of its health and safety checks. Childe wants to befriend the Traveler entirely because they’re stronger than him, so that he can fight them over and over again until he’s the strongest. Of course, this will never happen, because the Traveler is the MC and therefore is stronger than all others. However, in this way Childe being a repeatable boss makes 100% perfect sense— he actually wants to fight the Traveler again and again and again.
The one question I have about Childe is how in the living feck are the Fatui letting him join the Traveler and fight for them *against the Fatui*??? I think this might be touched on in Childe’s Story quest, which I’ll do in a bit, but like????? They let him keep his delusion and just walk over to Aether like “aight fam I’m on your team now”? How?
Jade Chamber/ Guizhong Ballista vs Sea Monster Fight!!
Basically, all my charged adrenaline from nearly dying to Childe just came to a head in this one huge fantastic fight.
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And Xiao :)
I absolutely loved seeing the Adepti and the Qixing work together. This fight was probably my favorite fight in the whole game— the music was amazing (soundtrack where), the graphics were so nice, the adepti were so feckin cool, using everyone’s abilities was n I ce. My adrenaline was reaching its highest point at this fight and it was just perfect. It was just so fecking fun after days of WL5 pain, having to pop like five ultimates to kill one hillichurl, to be able to just demolish swathes of enemies with Fischl and Diluc, run around like a madman thanks to Xiao, have infinite health idr who did that for me but bless them, just absolutely destroy.
Ever since I hit WL5 I haven’t been able to really just go insane during a fight and stop caring about HP/ when to use skills/ dodging and this have me that opportunity.
Zhongli’s Deal
*punches Zhongli across the room with the power of being the player character* I love this man so much.
Zhongli Zhongli Zhongli Zhongli Zhongli. I AM VERY ANGRY AT HOW THE PLOT RESOLVED HIS STORYLINE. But it also makes a lot of sense. And I think, for once, Zhongli should be allowed to be selfish.
Because choosing to leave Liyue was a bit selfish. He’s leaving the country that adores him, loves him, gives him shit for free; to its own devices and then to a completely unknown fate once the new Geo Archon becomes god and takes over. But he made a frankly fantastic plan and can now leave the country, for now, in peace.
I was absolutely delighted to see Zhongli in Morax form. Making deals with La Signora, being a complete and utter puppet master who set this entire situation up and played Childe like a kazoo; but just like his dear friend Venti, I think Zhongli is happier when he’s just Zhongli, the eccentric mortal. He seems so much happier and so much more relaxed when he’s forgetting about mora and eating dinner with Aether and Paimon. Rex Lapis might have just put Liyue through the wringer, but he can now put down his 3000- year long reign and just be the happy, eccentric Zhongli.
Zhongli’s little bit of insecurity over being a “bourgeois parasite” makes perfect sense now— he doesn’t want to be seen as Morax, a superfluous god who’s using his name to get whatever he wants from the humans he watches over.
But also the part of my brain that feeds off lore nEEDS to KNOW what Zhongli got from Tsaritsa. What could be worth a gnosis? His own happiness isn’t enough— Tsaritsa is likely going to use his gnosis to try and destroy Liyue. What could be worth that?
My main thought would be either “someone’s protection” or “another gnosis”, but I don’t think the latter is possible. The former could be possible but doesn’t really make sense either— a) whose protection is worth putting an entire country, much less the world, in danger and b) the Fatui are out to kill everyone who isn’t Fatui, so they won’t agree to spare a major player in the war to come like that. Brain go brrr.
I’m very hyped for Zhongli’s story quest, which I think is coming with his banner on Dec 1, when Childe’s banner ends. I really hope that Zhongli visits Mondstadt and chills with Venti for a while, but anything with this guy would be fine lol.
LORE
We got a lot of lore this update and I am delighted by it.
Firstly, we get a tiny hint of how Visions are bestowed— “if a person shows true strength of will at a desperate and fateful moment in their life, the gods will look upon them with favor.” Vague but more than we had before.
Next we got some neat lore about Inazuma— firstly, that it’s led by a god named Baal and secondly that it steals everyone’s visions. I’m very hyped to visit because guess what fam aether doesn’t have a vision.
Final Thoughts
In case you can’t tell from my insane ramblings, I loved Chapter 1 Act 3 and I absolutely cannot wait to play through Childe’s story quest and Chapter 2 and beyond.
The Prologue in Mondstadt set the stage for Genshin. We started out in a fantasy environment with a fantasy tale of an immortal bard and a dragon. Mondstadt was an excellent introduction to the world of Genshin.
And now? We’re starting to build on that. Chapter 1 brings us another story of another god and their relationship with the country they watch over. Liyue is much less of a traditional fantasy setting and takes the darkness we saw in Mondstadt— a friendship ruined by manipulation and suffering— and build on it. Now we don’t just see the Fatui more often but we also see more of the Treasure Hoarders and the way both groups kidnap and experiment on humans.
Mond started to introduce us to the Fatui, but Liyue is where they really start bringing continuous plot relevance. Inversely, we saw much more of the Abyss Order in Mondstadt than we did in Liyue. I’m extremely disappointed we didn’t see any more of the Princess this chapter, but it makes sense given that Chapter 1 was really more about the Fatui than the Abyss Order.
All I’m trying to say is the Liyue arc was an excellent continuation to the stage Mondstadt’s arc set. Now, we’re on to the world of the Eternal Shogun, Baal! I’m really excited to meet new characters and experience new stories of Inazuma, but I hope we’ll continue to see Mondstadt and Liyue in the future. Mondstadt is likely going to be the most “boring” of the countries we experience, cuz it’s just so classically fantasy- themed, but it will always be the first country we explored in this world.
After Inazuma (if I had to take a shot in the dark, inazuma’s arc will take from December 23 to maybe March or April) we’ll go to Sumeru, which I am really extremely hyped for because it sounds extremely different from Mond and Liyue and we’ll meet Cyno and possibly even Collei! (just me extrapolating lol). I can’t wait to see where Genshin Impact goes story- wise, because its first major update has brought so much to the table.
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