#but u- does exist as a verbal prefix for past?
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skalidris · 1 month ago
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the bau epithet in E is so good though. the lady of lost things
i should develop a favourite gudea statue
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obiternihili · 7 years ago
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didn’t finish grammar before travel and mad at family so I’m crude sketching paatic for the fuck of it
Paatic can be spelled Paatic, Paaty, Pa3atic, etc. In pa3tic, it’s Paʕátiyyát /pəʕatijah/ so pick your poison, I’m not consistent why you have to be
Phonology is / p t tˤ t͡ʃ c k q ʔ b d dˤ d͡ʒ ɟ g ɢ m n f s sˤ ʃ ç x ʕ ħ h w l r j z zˤ ɣ/ and /a ə i ɪ u ʊ/. Pharyngeal consonants, glottals, and uvulars pattern together as emphatics; l sometimes patterns as if it were nˤ or vice versa as well. The central vowels descend from historically short counterparts of the now length-agnostic /a i u/. Phonemically long consonants are contrasted with short, but not vowels.
Non-central vowels are written with an acute. Emphatics usually indicated by a dot on the nonemphatic counterpart, g gets it above because special and emphatic k/n are just q/l. j is spelled y. The postalveolars are indicated by haceks over s, c, and g, the palatals with acutes. ʔ is an apostrophe or ‘okina or something. Spell ʕ however the hell you like I usually use 3 after Arabic chat conventions. My CWS dictionary uses the hook tho.
Paatic prefers ©V© syllables but CVCC exists in some common words and sonority can encourage some CCV-like onsets. Geminate consonants generally are split between syllables then natch.
Lexically the 4000 or so words are generally related to each other via shared consonantal skeletons and properly the language has high polysemy, but technical limits affected how I put into CWS so mleh. Although Paatic is highly inflected, it’s limited in ways to compound or derive new words via affixes, preferring often genitive phrases for what we’d use a compound for. Nonetheless there are a handful of lexically significant affixes, such as -iyy (turns the word into an adjective, which I call the “nisbe” after a similar AA form), -át (feminine from masculine nouns, usually diminutive, augmentive, or abstract derivitions), mu- and su- (old participal and causitive, making tools and doers from verbs), with some more i can’t remember off the top of my head. Most lexemes consist of three consonants. Most words are “native” to paatic, from its ancestor Goreta, but many common lexemes and grammatical constructions may be likened to words in Egyptian, Semitic, Berber, and other languages, due to borrowing or coincidence.
Word order is basically always VSO. Topicalization is grammatical but considered highly casual and dispreferred. There’s a zero copula (well, two, to pair with stative 3írka and essive yúra), but that’s basically 0SO. Some pronouns can act as relative pronouns and in a way subjects to their clause but analyzing them as conjunctions brings the word order back in line for embedded clauses. However, while syntax is predominantly (rigidly?) head initial, inflective morphology is usually circumflexional.
The typical verb forms two stems to know together (generally predictable), past and non-past, for historical reasons basically the tense analogues of the perfective/imperfective stems of the semitic languages. The past conjugation generally follows an ablaut like CiCiCi with modal, aspectual, voice-related and personal endings suffixed. All persons in Paaty are obligatorily marked by a fossil pronoun that reflects the subjects’ number, person, and in the 2nd and 3rd singular only gender. The non-past is prefixed with a system agreeing with the number or gender of the subject as well as suffixed ultimately by the fossil pronouns, whence calling it a circumflex conjugation instead of a prefix conjugation. it generally follows an ablaut form of -CCáCa-. Related verbs usually preserve lexically important vowels, e.g. CíCaCa > CíCiCi-, -CCáCa-, but CíCuCa > CiCúCi-, -CCúCa- etc.
Moods and other such obtuse verb constructions not handled inflectionally are usually handled by adverbs in Paatic, not auxiliaries. A set of adverbs used frequently (moreso than their english translations) are given with the verbs on CWS.
Adjectives are noun-like words that basically always end in an underlying -iyy. When used normally, they are marked for number, gender, and state, like nouns, and follow their heads. When used as a predicate, they are placed at the beginning of the sentence and left unmarked. Tense/etc can be delivered by the slightly irregular verb 3írka, but only as needed. In this case the adjective follows the verb in the subject position.
Nouns are marked for state, number, and case. State encodes definateness (with article carrying case followed by number prefixed to the stem), indefinateness (with suffixes carrying case; number marked initially), and a “possessed” state called the construct circumfixed by á-á (typically with internal schwa deletion, i.e. short a), used to mark the thing possessed by an oblique comment, form as close as paaty gets to compounds, or (oddly) give the subject of a passive verb (which agrees with an “undefined” third person (“fourth person”), as it does for subjects like someone or everyone.
Nouns are marked for Nominitive, Accusative, and “oblique” forms with 0 and the consonants -n and -r. The oblique mostly acts as a combined genitive-dative, following possessed nouns, acting as indirect objects, and serving as objects of prepositions (at least the ones not transparently derived from a verb).
Number is prefixing, marking a dual and plural. The plural adds ú-, followed usually by deletion of the next á/a (wá-a for the plural construct) The dual is formed from the dual by adding ag- in front of the ú-.
Pronouns come in three forms, independent forms used with the 0 copulae or in certain oblique environments, the ~enclitic/affixing form used in conjugation and as the object of prepositions (i.e. prepositions are conjugated), and as possessive forms where they replace the article of a definate noun (albeit indiclinably, leaving syntax to default word order, v adv s s-complement pp (PMT) i.o i.o-comp d.o d.o-comp, and inference).
Oblique pronouns equivalent to the suffixed pronouns+n form suffixible objects pronouns, both direct and indirect.
There are a number of kinds of verbal nouns; a past and non-past verbid/participle (+iyy), an infinitive used marginally for certain phrases or oblique combinations of verb forms, and a negative complement used as an emphatic negative when paired with lirxa “not” and the appropriate do-verbs.
Certain words take irregular inflections characterized by the vowel ú ablauting into the word and the deletion/insertion of semivowels.
Id elaborate but that’s what the real grammar’s for.
I’m forgetting things too I know it
sorry no examples in “i hate travelling with them why did i agree to this can’t sleep” scribble
feel free to check it out on CWS if you can tolerate it. Pa3atic has the label RMC after rámač, the word for “man”, since anything related to Paʕát, people, I could find was taken and i don’t understand CWS very well. My handle’s something like tovarisch krasnyj joshi (maybe eshi, maybe alloneword) because that’s my normal internet handle
tagging @antioch-actius @frislander @sic-semper-amicis anyways but i promise better will be made sorry
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