#but the specific reason that jonelias would be better -IN CANON- because Martin is bad for Jon..... | Explore Tumblr posts and blogs

gammija · 1 month ago

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genuinely, it's so funny to me when jon.elias shippers hate j.mart for the specifically stated reason that "martin isnt good for jon". Yes, the guy with realistic flaws and traits that occasionally create conflicts with Jons own flaws and traits is bad for him, so jmart is toxic. Jon deserves someone who treats him right.

In fact, you know who's good for Jon? The person who effectively used him as a puppet, made a plan centered on scarring him for life 13 times and executed it without remorse, then used his body to end the world, an experience so horrifying that Jon would rather literally kill everyone on earth than risk someone else feeling it too. Now that's a guy Jon deserves!

#not gonna maintag this #i feel like over text this sounds angrier than i mean it #because like. i dont care if you prefer jonelias over jonmartin #have fun with it i can see the appeal even if i don't personally enjoy it #but the specific reason that jonelias would be better -IN CANON- because Martin is bad for Jon.....#lol. lmao. rofl even.#it's such a specific reading of the text #its very... dramatic. jmarts conflicts arent dramatic. they're mundane. thats why they bother people #but marking someone and using them to end the world... that's Drama. Fantasy. doesnt really count as a real life horrible thing to do #spurred on by a recent post but it's an argument ive seen several times #i get that in a more nebulous sense the je argument is that Elias like... pushes Jon to reach his full potential. or understands him #on a deeper level or smthn #it's just. like i said. a funny argument to use against jmart in a canon context #joos yaps #ok gotta spoiler tag tho #tma s5 #- i mean jmarts conflicts CAN be dramatic (finale...) but for the most part it's talking past each other #martin making an insensitive comment here and there #jon not knowing how much to communicate so communicating v little #martin purposely acting dumb so he doesn't have to face reality #mundane shit that gets under peoples skin way easier than 'literally ended the world'#but i think i can say... from jons perspective... ending the world is 🤏 a tad more egregious than not listening to him sometimes

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