#but that should be after jay and nia throw hands

[karaspal]

at this point in current canon, can nia nal be considered a superhero? i’m talking about the comics, she is undoubtedly one on the show. is she in anti-hero territory?

i know waller pushed nia to do the things she did in ss:dream team BUT she is still responsible for her own actions. she chose to protect her town at the expense of gamorra. if she didn’t get the rest of the team through the barrier, nothing bad would’ve happened to the gamorrians. i know nia later tried stoping the rest of the team from letting waller in, but too little, too late?

she helped jay and jon liberate the people back in soke. she saw what bendix did to them. she hugged one of the victims and said “it’s okay. it’s over.” after that, she chose to bring an equally awful person into their city.

i understand why nia worked with waller. her motives are very clear. she just wanted to protect her people, even if it meant someone else’s might suffer. her actions weren’t born out of place of cruelty. she is a compassionate person. had her life be at stake, she would’ve never done what she did.

i also think nia is somewhat responsible for what happened to sara. not directly, no. but the domino effect of the situation got sara killed and nia was the one to get bizzaro into the city. nia lost her mother not too long ago, and now she is the reason one of her friends lost their mother too. and he just got her back. i’m not even sure i want them to make up, if we need to be honest, but we’ll see how their interactions go. i might change my mind on this one.

the narrative seems to be presenting nia as the hero who keeps getting screwed over, but shouldn’t a hero stick to their morals no matter what? they should not be susceptible to blackmail. it’s hard, yes, when you know refusing to work with a villain might get your family hurt, but heroes make tough decisions.

anyways, by no means am i saying she is a villain. but i was thinking maybe she is dipping her toes into anti-hero territory? i hope i don’t come across as someone who doesn’t like nia. i like her, i find her character interesting and i’m excited to see where she goes from here. and at the end of the day, she is 18 and just started her superhero journey so there’s always time to learn and be better.

i’m open to discussion. if you disagree with me, feel free to let me know. if you agree with me, feel free to let me know. i want someone to discuss ss:dream team with!!!

[fae-morrigan]

Someone put a post (where they admit they straight up dont know these characters lol, and also spell damian as 'damien' so like. yknow.) in the tags saying that if you're a fan of Jon & Jay, you shouldn't buy super son. Well, as the crowned CEO of Jay & Jon, I'm here to tell you guys that you absolutely should.

Super Son did the amazing thing of hitting several marks that I predicted while still managing to surprise me in how they hit them. Which is high praise for any story: A great narrative should be able to both meet reasonable audience expectations (i.e, staying in character, setup payoff) WHILE STILL throwing in curveballs that tell you something new.

There's a lot I want to analyze and get into, namely how I think the rooftop conversation between Jon & Nia is really brilliantly done in what it says about both characters, but mainly I've been thinking a lot about how great those last few pages were and how I think Sina absolutely nails how Jon & Jay's specific issues interact with each other.

Jay's always been a blunt person. From their first meeting back in SOKE 2, hes said what he thinks, and rarely does he try and soften himself. More than that, his bluntness is often a shield from vulnerability, which Jay struggles with the whole scene. It makes total sense, after what hes experienced (re-traumatization at the hands of a friend) that he's displaying that trait again.

Jon, however, is immediately vulnerable. This is the most poignant confession of the issue: Not even in the amazing sequence of Nia helping him make a place in the darkness (look, its back, thanks isabel!) do we get this admission of fear.

And Jay, like always, embraces him. Sidenote, LOVE how they got in the thing Jon does where he's constantly tucking his face in people's shoulders during hugs.

But the moment ends, and we get here. First of all, cold af. I could feel the aura before I turned the page.

Second of all: Jay is totally valid in feeling this way. And it makes perfect sense that he would.

Sara was his everything. Getting her back was one of his main motivations in SOKE. Because of Nia's actions, she died horribly (do you know what happens to a person when they fall from that sort of height? I do. Its AWFUL.) for an unjust cause. Of course he's glad she can't hurt anyone else!

And that's when we get to my FAVORITE PART! Oh how I love this bit. Because like. You understand why Jon's angry- Its a harsh thing for Jay to say! Nia was the one who kept him sane while he was trapped in his own mind! But Jay, like always, is RIGHT: Jon DOESN'T get it. How could he?

Jon Kent will NEVER, ever, be put in this position. Out of universe, his parents are Clark Kent and Lois Lane. They'll ALWAYS come back. Hell, the fact they'll always come back is something Ma LITERALLY says to Jon in SOKE. He will never, ever have to know this pain.

In universe, Jon's a white american. Despite being queer, despite being an alien, he'll never know what its like to be this kind of collateral, delegated as pawns in a greater war for 'freedom'. That is what killed Sara at the end of the day: imperialism.

This next bit hurts my heart. Great job, guys!

For one: Jon claims he's not excusing the mistakes Nia made, but by downplaying it like this... yes he is. But did you catch that part? Right at the start of that bubble?

"I'm going to fight every day to make up for my own part in this."

That's where it clicked for me. Something I had been hoping for since Nicole first called them twin flames.

He's projecting.

Of COURSE he's defending Nia. Of COURSE he wants Jay to forgive her. It isn't just about the fact that she gave him support, it isn't just the dreams, its the fact that... well. If Jay can't forgive her... how could he EVER forgive HIM?

THIS is where the fact that Jon and Nia are so similar as character SINGS. They become mirrors to each other, evaluating their own self worth through the other, at the unintentional expense of the people they've hurt.

Jay's right, though. Again. Its almost like he's the embodiment of the truth or something. He doesn't HAVE to do anything.

When he starts crying though, I immediately was RUINED. This is the first time we have EVER seen him cry before during his entire existence of a character. And its not really even because his mom is dead (though yes, that) and its not even because of the argument. Its because Jay fundamentally wants to be understood, and he's not getting that.

Which is important for the next bit:

I want to first backtrack a bit to Son of Kal El again, specifically, issue fourteen, right here.

Hello, two-panel sequence that succinctly describes these two as characters. How convenient you are for me, a guy analyzing a work that isn't written prose.

Jon isn't good at letting go, for better or for worse. The things he cares about stay with him, and when something or someone tries to exit his life, he clings to them with all his might.

Jay however, both selflessly and selfishly, is willing to let go first if he thinks its better for the other person. To me this line so effortlessly summarizes who Jay is- he's a person who's accustomed to not having things, and will leave before it hurts and he gets too attached.

And that thought is ALL over this scene. Jay, who begins to let go, Jon, who both literally and physically CLINGS to jay, practically begging him to stay.

(Sidenote. This is like, the third time Jay mentions breaking up when Jon starts acting up. Good for you king, keep that white boy on his toes, let him know he ain't all that.)

Every little detail of this four panel sequence is killing me. "My worst nightmare is not having a home with you in it." His greatest desire. The thing that kept tipping him off in every fake reality Nia constructed for him- Jay's absence. Him wiping the tear of Jay's cheek. Jay walking away from him.

But what really gets me is how on this page, Jon talks about them as 'we', while Jay is firmly stuck in 'I.'

This is what made me LOSE MY MARBLES at three in the morning. Just utterly fucking off my rocker in a straightjacket talking to myself.

Because this is what JON wants. But is it what JAY wants?

Jon never asks.

What about what Jay fears? What about the life that HE wants? What if he doesn't want San Francisco? What if the life he wants is the life he HAD before everything went wrong? Jon outright says he wants a fresh start. But Jay, Jay's someone with such deep connections to what he just lost, what he likely WANTS to get back. His country. His mother. His sense of self. But. He says yes.

(Sidenote. FIRST I LOVE YOU WOOOOOOOOOO) To quote my buddy Dami: Oh, the drama of needing a future with someone who can't get over the past.

It is left unclear, by the end, whether or not Jay is saying yes to this because he genuinely wants to, or if he's only saying yes because he doesn't want to lose Jon, too. Jon doesn't stop to question whether or not Jay's only reaching after him because Jon's walking away. We, the audience, are left to ponder that for ourselves.

How much of Jay saying yes is him just accepting that this is the best he's going to get? That he's never going to be understood because nobody wants to understand?

He's an afterthought to Nia, an obstacle at best, and to Jon he's a particularly handsome prop in this little fantasy he has of running away and starting new. He's either not thought of at all, or when he is thought about, it's in the context of how he can emotionally fulfill the other person And you get why Jon did this. He's desperate, he's hurting, he just got tangible evidence that the time he has with the people he loves isn't ever guaranteed. He's been needing space from Clark and Lois for MONTHS because god knows they haven't been fulfilling his emotional needs. In a very real sense, Jay is who he has.

But wanting someone to stay with you so much that you'll... Not even ignore, but just not ever consider what they may want. The intentional isolation, moving halfway across the country away from all support systems. The need to cling to someone.

It reminds me of... something. Someone.

Don't tell Jon I made this comparison. He'll kill himself. Jon and Ultraman ARE similar. They're both such deeply lonely people who cling very tightly and even though it manifests in different ways and even though they have different core thoughts about it. The effect at the end of the day is the same, isn't it?

Is loving Jay not a brutal act of destruction?

There's so many more details about this story I love. Jon & Nia's conversation being vague enough that you have no idea how Jon meant what he told her but you KNOW how NIA took it (girl you can do better hes literally ugly!). Jon breaking a pillar by bonking his head against it (LMFAO). The pretty lies vs ugly truth dichotomy of Jay vs Nia here.

But this one scene, man. This one fucking scene takes the cake. STELLAR work all around. Every panel counts.

This better lead into a full Superman & Gossamer run or SOMETHING or I'm going to have WORDS with DC's editorial staff.

[naturaldisasterfanfiction]

25. Part 5

I do not like this girl contacting Chris, it’s just something about her that honestly gets me angry. I prefer his kids talking to him. This is my husband, I am not here for this “pick it up” I said to him “I have been not wanting to speak to her for so long, every time I don’t pick up she sends me shit” resting my arm on Chris’ shoulder “answer it” I said to him again, Chris answered the call and placed the phone against his ear “Robyn, why is there a huge dog in the backyard!?” My mom half shouted, looking behind me “oh don’t mom, I will speak to you after” my mom nodded her head and walked back out, that thing is not small it’s big and hairy “you not letting me speak are you though, that is what I don’t get with you. I am trying to be there for him, not you. I am not with you” snatching his phone from him “what” Chris said “hi, I heard you got an issue” the phone went deadly silent, I could vaguely hear her ranting on but now she is quiet “it’s Rihanna if you don’t already know but you do know because of how quiet you are, you had something to say to him? What is it?” Clearly she got shit to say so say it “I was speaking to Chris” that is all she came out with “well you’re speaking to me, when you speak to the guy that is paying for your lifestyle you should speak to him with more respect because hear me out, he is paying for your shit too, I know he is. See with me I don’t care; shit is in the air right now. I get what I want, so what I want is you out of his life. And we will be seeing that boy without any contact from you, you will take down that post and you will respect his name. You will do it so help me god you are in trouble, you are dealing with a bitch and I know you ain’t that, you can only emotionally use people. I fucking know, so what you will do is delete that shit, you will then congratulate him that he going to be a father again, I don’t even know your name, Nia? I think, well anyways. It was nice to hear your silence, looking forward to meeting thr son” disconnecting the call.

Placing the phone on the counter, Chris is sat with his mouth hung open all wide eyed “what?” I said to him, he has a big mouth and he has it all wide open “close your mouth, the hell” Chris got off of the bar stool “oh my god!” he spat and then screamed out “oh my fucking god! Oh my god, What the fuck!?” he laughed, he was not expecting that. Watching him jump up and down, I mean I was just doing my part “oh my god!” he said again “I…” he dragged out, he is out of breath from just gasping and shouting “I wish I recorded that, you really got my back?” he said holding his chest, nodding my head “nobody ever did that for me, unless it’s my lawyer. Thank you” Chris walked over to me “I’m choked up, oh my god” he pressed a kiss to my forehead and hugged me, wrapping my arms around him “Chris, I won’t have people disrespect you. You have let people do this to you, you have not told them about themselves. You do eventually do it but you do it in a bad way, people use you and I hate it. I won’t have that now. Especially that bitch, I know she gives you heartache” nobody really does take up for Chris and I hate that for him “because I never have back up, I know you’re here. Thank you” it’s going to be different now for him, this is why I wanted him here. Chris placed his hands at the side of my face “I appreciate the fact you got all ready for me, your face is beautiful. I did notice it if I didn’t mention it earlier. You really are the most precious thing on this earth, I love that for you, and I do love how much you are loved in the world, you deserve this happiness. Even if I am the idiot you are getting it with” I scrunched my nose up smiling, Chris pecked my lips.

Walking into the living room with Chris behind me, I am just so happy he is here “where did the dog come from? It’s beautiful” my mom has been asking about that thing “it’s mine” Chris said behind me “it’s too big” I added, it is literally too big “it’s a beautiful dog Robyn” sitting down on the couch “is that why you took so long?” my mom is going to question him now “kind of, I get side tracked. I just thought I could get some studio time done and I just lost track of time and dates” my mom pulled a face “but you needed to come back” Chris jumped on the couch, he is like an excited child at times “I know, it was on the list to do. I knew I needed to come back, I was thinking it. But like people ask me to do things, I know what I needed to do. My mind just has so much going on, like my mind be racing and shit” staring at the side of his face, I am just glad he is here “it’s ok” stroking the side of his face “like you know, you understand. When my mind be racing, I got to have drugs to slow it down. Weed, does. It helps but sometimes I am like I need it to shut down, but I am good. I am ok, I just think it’s a misunderstanding with me” nodding my head “you don’t have to explain Chris” I look so clingy right now but I am going to continue to stroking the side of his face “but I don’t want to disappoint your mom, like I knew I needed to be here. I get lost, my mind is just crazy. So much is happening so yeah, not many women in my life like me, I don’t want your mom to be that” poking my lips out at him “my mom hating me, then my mother in law. Not good” looking at my mom “I don’t hate you Chris, I just know my daughter was worried” my mom better be nice to him “why does your mom hate you?” I asked moving my hands away from his face.

Staring at the side of Chris’ face, Chris looked at me smiling “she wasn’t happy, like this came out and nobody from my family has said anything. Like the niggas I had in my home has said something, but not even a text from them. They think I am a fucked up guy, like I don’t know what I am doing with my life. I know they are talking behind my back right now; I just know it. My mom cried like it was a bad thing, she said she hates us together and that we are no good together. That you fucked up me over, we are both are going to be bad for each other. Just shows I got nobody” Chris shrugged “but it is what it is, my mom will be back and it’s ok” Chris laughed and I am disgusted, what the fuck is funny about that “Chris, that is horrible” I am in shock “she said I wouldn’t see the baby, that I will be a pathetic guy on the side. She will get over it” is Chris feeling ok, is he feeling ok “Joyce said that to you” my mom asked “she did, my mom is disappointed in me Monica. I don’t blame her though. I mean anyone would throw in me in the trash if I was their child. I keep on giving my mom hell” that bitch Joyce “is Joyce feeling ok? I mean when I found about Robyn and you, I would never do or say such a thing to her. I mean I did think oh my god but to say such words. She should be telling you that this is your time to get better. We all have family members we do not like but that is not nice” I wonder if Chris is ok “are you ok Chris? Like seriously, that would hurt me” Chris chuckled “I put my mom through shit, you know” holding his hand “so none of your family members have said congratulations to you?” he shook his head “does Mel have her weed man here again?” nodding my head slowly, that is horrible, I am angry at that bitch.

Chris went to go and deal with his dog barking outside, I swear that dog is going to somehow annoy me “what a nasty lady” my mom said, I knew she would mention it “imagine calling your child pathetic because he’s having a another baby, I did mention she has changed since she has moved. Chris has said she likes to use his name to sell things and then take over with taking care of his kids, she seems to have disconnected the mother part. She seems to be looking at him as the haters do, she doesn’t see him as her son, it’s Chris Brown. He has bipolar, something you failed to pick up. I think he has ADHD too, but she did this to him, how could she just be so blind to it. She is a bitch, I am angry. Sorry mom” I know she won’t like me calling her a bitch “I understand maybe she has given up on him, I think being your son’s manager is a bad thing. I think there is a disconnect with them like you said. She failed him and hasn’t admitted to that, don’t you think?” nodding my head “I don’t think Chris sees it though, he is like it’s my mom. She will get over it, she is blaming me that I destroyed her son. Mom, he has had issues before then. I saw it in him, I never did anything to him. It was already there; we were both damaged, but he had this already and she has yet to admit to her faults” I will never give that woman the time if I see her again.

I was thinking where he went too and he is still outside with that dog of his “Chris, baby. Come inside. And leave that there” I pointed, that hairy thing will mess up my floor “but he got to come inside, I am coming” he got up from the floor, he really plays with that. Walking back inside “are you wanting me to send you any pictures?” Dennis asked, shaking my head but I need you to do something “is he coming?” walking off to go upstairs “I am here!” Chris shouted, I love him with my whole heart, and it is scary “come with me” waving him over “you got your phone with you? By the way I spoke to the Jay’s they tried to test out how I was feeling and I wasn’t having their shit and I think they knew it, I walked off and then Jay Brown called me back, they said they wasn’t going to help but they are, I knew they would break. They have no choice but too, but Tina has mentioned that the caption is a little dull, we need to put a united front and need to show a little more happiness. It seemed a little off so come along, we have work to do” walking up the steps “you can use the lift?” Chris said behind me “I have gained weight; I need to lose some” I hissed out nearly falling forward “aye!” Chris caught my arm “what did I say?” he did catch me “I did say get the lift, you are doing too much” that I am “I know, but we are up here now, let’s just go up. I am ok. Just these pains are getting to me” Chris side eyed me holding my arm “let’s go together then, I can’t trust you” I chuckled at him holding me like a naughty child and by the arm.

Clasping my hands together turning to Chris and Dennis “so, don’t mind me. I can’t be bothered to get my clothes on so silk robe it is. So we both need to do some homework, but I want it to be you, so I want to ask you. What kind of picture would you like to post. Please be logical” this is Chris we are speaking about; he will come out with something stupid “you and Zeus, I think it will be cute?” rolling my eyes “I think I am allergic right now but tell me, what do you want to post?” I want it to be him, not some shit I made him put “just you, like this now. You look so beautiful; you really look good. So can I just take a picture of you like this” well I did not expect this, I thought he would want a picture together “just me like this?” I am a little taken a back “yes ma’am. I can take good pictures, also I want it to be natural” now I feel a little shy “I think Dennis is out of a job now, sorry boo. My man is my photographer” Dennis laughed watching Chris “if it’s stupid I will not be happy, do I look good?” looking at Dennis “it’s like a Savage Fenty photoshoot, you look good” I laughed, that is good then “ok done” my face dropped “excuse me? I barely got into character” is he being real right now” walking over to him “I said natural, and you were laughing, I love it. You were already posing, now you need to wait to see it” I will bite him “hey” Chris moved his phone away from me, I swear I wasn’t ready is he crazy “if it’s bad, you will not post it” I don’t trust him because at times he can be so stupid.

I am doubting my idea now “I think I weigh more then Chris” scratching the side of my face “I can hold you, I literally lifted you during sex!” Chris spat “you’re going to be on his lap, it’s not that bad” Dennis and Chris are not helping “but I have gained weight since then, ok. Just don’t drop me and our daughter” placing my arm around him as I sat down on his lap “you have gained too, I am joking. So we are doing corny things?” I am scared I weigh too much for Chris “no I just want it to be recent” Dennis fixed my robe on me “here” Dennis grabbed Chris’ hand “on the bump, keep your hand just there Chris” Dennis grabbed my wrist “and I want you to just have your hand here” he moved back “holding his face, the ring is on show is that ok? I mean both of your wedding rings are showing, it looks nice. Kiss his cheek when you’re ready. Service face Chris, like you just won. You have, don’t look like the world has beaten you down” Dennis moved back a little more “photoshoot on a camera phone, now. Ok, let’s do this” kissing Chris’ cheek and holding that pose “ok, Chris give me face a little more. Rest your face too” Chris snorted laughing “you’re lucky that I think I got it, but these are cute. You both are cute” Getting up from Chris “can you feel your legs?” I have to ask; I am sure I weighed him down “tingling feelings” putting a finger up at him.

I have been waiting for Chris to finish, I already had mine written out but while I was waiting I followed back Royalty. I did promise her I would, I fulfilled it and then liked her picture she put up and then also the one with the Dior bag. She is just a sweetheart, I like her energy and the love she holds for Chris too “I am done, how did you do yours so quick?” Chris walked over to me, has he really got his hand down his pants scratching his balls in my face “is something wrong down there?” I asked him “just needed to scratch it, also I need to trim my pubes” I thought so “sit down, after we can just block the world out and talk. You go first” shuffling back a little so I can see his face “so I put, well I deleted my first one. Just a Fenty Beauty promotion right here, look how that thing just shining, it shining bro. This is isn’t pregnancy glow, this is Fenty Beauty glow. And I can’t wait to help her take it off with her Fenty Skin, and also me, I have to join in with this or she will be annoyed with me. If you’re still reading this then you made it, we made a baby together and I can’t wait for her to come into this world. It’s a different feeling to have a love child, I am so happy. Robyn is the gift that just keeps on giving, also I am not allowed to say the name, but it will end in Brown, love wins” I swear he is always making me laugh somehow “it is you, thank you. I like it, am I really glowing?” I just want added compliments “you are baby, like when I wrote the first one it was just boring as shit, like I put we had one night and that was it, and you said it needs to be me” nodding my head “you right, so I put. I announced this in a panic, I was nervous in announcing it but with the strength within I am going to get through this. I have been waiting on this moment for a while and to be having a baby with the love of my life, it’s even more of a blessing. From now on, it’s about me and mines. This is me signing off until she is here, I will update everyone once the new CEO of Fenty is born” looking up at Chris “it sounds like you’re fed up” Chris picked up on it “I am tired of fighting with these people, to explain what I am doing and why I am doing, I don’t want to write a whole thing about it. It’s enough, the little blog I put out will explain but I totally love what you put” I think Chris has outdone me in this caption business.