#but that doesnt mean i dont understand its not as clar cut as that

[joculatrixster]

hope this isn’t weird but that post abt cookies being drawn as white and poc is like. super inaccurate because whitewashing is never okay ??? like even if someone “looks” white colorism is still a thing and should be discouraged (not to mention op of the post mislabeled cookies as “white” when cookies lighter than them are in the poc category...)

woo boy this is gonna be a long post, pls read it all the way through because i dont want to repeat myself too much, this is a complicated matter so i have complicated feeling's on it as u could have seen from my reply criticizing the post itself, im also not gonna answer any anons on this that i think r being nasty or anything because honestly it took me a while to figure out my feelings on the cookei run race discourse and im pretty square in my opinions, anons telling me im rasict or something because of it wont shake me as much as they did the first time i tipped my toe into this cause im clear headed rn, im open to hearing other ppls thoughts so hear mine out too :)

yeah i saw the post as flawed but like i dont think ppl understand and im sorry to say it so bluntly but not everyone draws a cookie lighter because they think white is prettier they just see it as a humization, let me explain before anyone else sends an ask just based off that

its an artist interpretation of the character, hey if u personally would never ever lighten a characters skintone more power to u but given circumstances of lighting and tanning some skintones can vary as long as u dont make a character lose their more ethic traits like hair texture or facial features and try to be faithful then yeah just draw them as u interpret them, its up to how u perceive the character

like to be its about good faith interpretation did u draw someone like herb or adventurer as paler because u see them as white? that's fine they can be clearly read as caucasian so thats good faith, u can argue that they may be not caucasian but someone else can argue that they are and both hcs given the characters skintones would make sense

did u draw someone like pomegranate or kumiho as white? thats bad because their clearly poc and are either clearly brown or have codding in them like how kumiho is based off an east asian fox spirit 

like a LOOONG time ago i made a similar post back when i wasnt all that educated on some issues and ppl got mad at me which was fair, my post was rlly badly worded but the things ppl brought up was also just showing some ppl dont understand why whitewashing is bad, its not just about color its about seeing caucasian as an ethnicity more beautiful than any others and erasing what makes them a person of color as an “improvement” cookie run fans, especially the east asian ones, defiantly fall into that category but im sorry to point out that that op doesn't because they didnt say white is an improvement they said drawing them as a lighter skintone would make sense with the ethnic indicators of the character

since they are not humans there is margin of error because yes those are dugfh colros that's why some cookies aren't realistic human skintones and why u have to decided for urself where to draw the line with lighter brown cookeis cause it can be blurry, by ur own logic anon licorice should be white because his skin is a pale grey despite his dreads u see the issue there?? u have to take into mind the other indicators beyond the literal dough hue for if ur whitewashing a cookie, im a light skinned black person whos mixed race depending on if im inside a lot or outside a lot my skin can be near white color or a more tan so if u looked at pictures of me in different seasons ud think someone lighted my skintone in the winter pics but no skintones ca just naturally change like that irl given lighting and exposer to sunlight

if u rlly think lighting it a lil bit is instantly colorism pls educate urself on colorism, colorism is a serious issue in poc community and yall throwing around the term when its not what that is is rlly devaluing it im sorry to say which sucks because more ppl in this community need to learn about it

this is all just my take on the matter from my research and own perspectives, other ppl will feel differently and place a hard stance on it but honestly there's nothing morally wrong with this perspective and considering these are cookies they aren't actual reptrentation of human poc, as long as the dough color isn't drastically lighted or ur not erasing, of course this is just how i feel about cookie run specifically in other circumstances im less lax and i feel like ppl do whitewash some lighter skinned characters but yeah in relation to that post no i dont think its whitewashing personally i think op just interpreted the cookeis in that way

at the end of the day things liek this are not as black and white as both sides of the coin belive they are rlly, their gray and everyone's comfort zone for some characters are valid but pls stop calling stuff colorism when its not. i get why u guys think it is and honestly if it makes u uncomfy for any skintone variation to the lighter side that's fine but no its not rasict or colorism to think a light skinned cookie can be drawn with a lighter skintone as log as u dont say the character looks better that way because then they r being colorist

oh and before i forget i want to remind everyone that op is a minor dont fucking harrass them, critizie them with ur own opioins but dont harrass them because u dont agree with their perception of fictional characters thats petty and dont do it