#but sometimes it includes the rest of the krew too lol -- but I think graves is actually very similar it's just that he has an in-group
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god but gideon really is just malcolm graves if graves met tf for the first time after he came out of prison so there wasn't the whole feeling of intense betrayal and psychosexually charged rage along with the homoerotic under/overtones huh
#a lot of the same psychological mechanics going on with them I feel like. oh and I love them both very much of course#again I must ask. is this intentional. I know for sure now these guys are fellow league lore sufferers and use existing characters as inspo#is it just a matter of overlap in archetypes. a subconscious influence. night and day I wonder about these things#once upon a witchlight#gideon coal#I was about to say that gideon might be ever so slightly nicer than graves on a base level but actually... no not really haha#they're both about equally capable of pretty callous violence towards people that aren't Their People#gideon is notably capable of being very kind to the few people he considers his in-group -- most particularly kremy and twig#but sometimes it includes the rest of the krew too lol -- but I think graves is actually very similar it's just that he has an in-group#of exactly one (1). it's tf and him against the world. he's harder to get an in with but once you're there I think he works the same#kremy collects minions I mean people that come along with the marriage and tf extremely does not which I think might play into it lol
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