#but oh well. I’ve been enjoying sneeg’s streams more so that’s a plus

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boosting this as a crow of many years because despite my post, I don’t want people to think I don’t want phil involved on the realm whatsoever

the frustration, for me, comes from the fact that phil normally loves lore - we’ve seen him engage with sneeg and ros with everything going on between them and owen, and he’s clearly passionate about it and supportive of the roles they all played. it does however come across as weird that he’s being rude toward the admin-based lore of all things. it’s definitely just coincidence (the eye being a reminder of purgatory, the snails being a reminder of qsmp, the crying obsidian corruption being a reminder of dsmp), but it’s still really unfortunate to see him engage with it so negatively.

it also doesn’t feel like him being “lore-avoidant” either. I see a lot of crows saying that “phil has to be dragged into lore kicking and screaming” but really, that isn’t applicable here. there are plenty of reasons he could be dragged into lore, but he so firmly nopes out of the situation to the point of BM - stating he’ll refuse to log on if he gets a snail, breaking the obsidian even when the admins were clearly trying to put it back, and insisting he won’t be doing lore yet still engaging with it. that’s not being lore-avoidant, that’s just BM.

but look. like prev said, it isn’t our business to solve. if anybody has any real issues within the realm discord server, they can talk about it there. if this is how phil wants to have fun on the server, then whatever. I just won’t watch his streams, simple as that.

regarding your recent reblog, as a frequent philza watcher, i didn't even make the connection that, yes, he keeps brushing off 95% of the realm's lore, all while constantly making references to previous servers he's been on in some fashion, which is certainly, uh, a choice. whether it's comparing it to stuff on the server (when, even though I understand his reaction, it'd be stupid to assume only qsmp had small npc companions or creepy eye entities in the sky), or for example, when he suggested to sneeg (mostly not serious, but still) about pretending to be o!phil in sneeg's mind while sneeg is on the realm and phil was just in a call with him. even sneeg was like "bro wants to do lore but not do lore wth"--again, he wasn't being seriously accusatory, but I still felt that because seriously!?!?

idk, he doesn't have to have his own lore on the server, most fans don't mind. just maybe, idk, don't be a dick about the lore on the server you're currently in? if you're in a server like the realm and you wanna interact with people, you gotta accept that maybe, just maybe, you're gonna play a 'character' (even if said character doesn't have lore) that interacts with some server lore and just play off of what happens; that's kind of a given in a server like this?? trying to ignore it all is both nearly impossible and just going to make you come across like a dick.

sorry about the wall of text. my feelings on this have been building up the past few weeks. i love my streamer but realm streams have been unbearable. and i really really hope that changes soon.

While I cant speak on his streams, nor can I give an indepth analysis of his actions I feel validated hearing that a lot of Phil viewers are sharing my feelings. I don't hate streamer and enjoy his content and his interactions with my streamer(s), but it's a little disheartening? Frustrating? To hear all of the hard work people are putting in be brushed off with a simple "I ain't doing that shit" and the like.

I don't even want him to play a character, truly I couldn't give less of a fuck what streamer does as I don't watch him. What I, and seemingly a lot of other people, want is for him to stop unkindly dismissing the work people are putting in to make a fun story. I get being burnt out from it, I get not wanting to engage! I'm happy he's setting boundaries about what he does and does not want to do.

I even think it's okay to reference other servers/lore, and even I think it's okay to compare them critically as critical comparison and criticism (how many times can i say a word with "crit" in it) are healthy and necessary to make a server flow properly, but not so much when it comes to people's story telling and the thing that they are ultimately having fun doing!

In the end my opinion doesn't really matter, and I prefer not to be engaged in drama I have no real standing in. But I sympathize with you! I'm a firm believer that if anyone in the server cc wise has an actual issue with it that it will be handled privately and that's all I really care about ^^