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shadowqueenjude Ā· 1 year ago
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"Chaol is such a big red flag!" stfu if he existed irl you'd be tripping over yourselves trying to get him. Rowan wouldn't even get a second glance.
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feyre-ashryvers Ā· 2 years ago
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Welcome everyone,
I just wanted to share what my blog will mainly consist of. (And donā€™t worry, you donā€™t have to like or share this is just for my pinned post because my bio canā€™t fit it all in šŸ˜­)
I am a huge fan of SJM books and I love all her characters, so you wonā€™t find any kind of hatred here at all. So if you are a fan like me, this place is for you!!!
This account is, especially, a safe space for the Pro Archeron sisters stans (Nesta stans in particular), Chaol sympathisers, Lidia Cervos hoes (ME!!), Aelin Galathynius people, and Gwynriel/Gwyn berdara stans!!!
I also want to mention that just because I love these characters/ships, it doesnā€™t mean that I despise anyone who has opposing views, it just means that I like them. Thatā€™s all. We can still vibe together if you donā€™t like these characters or ships, if you are a good person!!!
Also you will probably notice that I am literally obsessed with Lidia Cervos!!!
And remember that this is a pro archeron sister account. I love and relate to every sister in my own way and I donā€™t spread hate about any of them here on my account.
Thank you!!!!!
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aelinbitch-archive Ā· 6 years ago
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2. YES!!!! YES HOLY SHIT!!!!! You just put into words something Iā€™ve thought vaguely about for so gd long which is that none of these people even agree!! on ANYTHING! The absolute ONLY thing the #anti sjm tag canā€™t have is pro-aelin stuff. Anything else? Doraelin? Chaolaena? Malide? Loving every character except Aelin and Rowan? Totally fair game and you are still considered a Woke AntiSJM Queen even though you.... like everything but the main character. Or not evenĀ everything - itā€™s a total choose your own adventure of stuff to declare Redeemable(TM). Anything thatā€™s not aelin!
2.5. That just made me think of something else interesting (is that the correct order of words....? Iā€™m so tired rn) which is that hating Aelin also comes with the agreement that you hate anything that is perceived as an Aelin... accessory. Namely, Rowan. Because heā€™s seen as an extension of Aelin: he makes her happy and is mainly there to support her (although re: these-people-canā€™t-agree-on-anything, thereā€™s also abuse allegations so...??). And the fae in general are seen as an extension of Aelin, I think. People love to roll their eyes at SJMā€™s hOt FaE MaLeS and I think a big part of that is that our introduction to the fae is during heir of fire, aka totally from aelinā€™s pov. That ā€œcultureā€ is her thing. (The same criticisms are not leveled at the witches and their ā€œcultureā€ because thatā€™s Manonā€™s terf, which we all know is #sacred). Now, if DORIAN was fae.... hm! I wonder if some medium to high-intensity dick riding wouldnā€™t be going on. But one can only speculate. Maybe Aelinā€™s connection to the fae is so powerful theyā€™d just say she ruined Dorian by making him fae.Ā 
But yeah itā€™s like... the characters youā€™reĀ ā€œallowedā€ to like while being an #anti are characters that are totally/partially divorced from Aelinā€™s (and by supposed extension, SJMā€™s) whole deal. Itā€™s like SJM intended for us to disagree with Chaol in qos, so agreeing with him is some kind of revolutionary subversive act of rebellion against SJMā€™s evil ways (which is just so fucking funny because the opinions you have to have to agree with the shit Chaol says in qos are..... ykw nvm). And malide qualifies for this because manon is bizarrely seen as some kind of Anti-Aelin (dark aelin....), and dorian too because.... idk he just does. They like him so he must be good lol. Probably the main thing is that his storyline, like manon elide chaolā€™s etc, is divergent enough from Aelinā€™s (unlike Rowan and coā€™s) that they can still read about him and pretend she doesnā€™t exist lmfao.
2.75. I hate myself for being this bad at organizing my thoughts, but something my brain vomited onto the post earlier caught my eye. Antis either hate Rowan because heā€™s aĀ hOt FaE MaLe and too easy on Aelin and never criticizes her like their woke king Chaol, OR because they think heā€™s abusive towards her. And either way? Literally either fucking way? Itā€™s still seen as Aelin/SJMā€™s fault. If Rowan is a yes-man who only exists to fuck and praise Aelin, SJM is into that - gross! If Rowan is an abuser, SJM is into that - gross! And since we all know Sarah and Aelin are the same person... [insert man in front of giant board of conspiracy theories reaction pic]
3. Ok what the fuck else was I even going to say Iā€™m so fired up. Oh yeah about sjmĀ ā€œruiningā€ their precious babies...Ā ā€œchaol, dorian, manon and even elide, are all characters that have been given a wealth of space, development and page time, in a series that started out as not being about them at all.ā€ YES!!! EXACTLY. Chaol quite literally got an entire spinoff novel about him. Manon is practically a second main character. I would love to read theĀ ā€œthousands of pages kissing Aelinā€™s assā€ people always talk about. I think my copy of THAT book got lost in the mail.Ā 
4. You are so right about abandoning her books altogether being the easy decision. For a sec there I was honestly this close to becoming an anti (or just deleting my blog and never interacting with fandom) because 1) I knew SJM had made terrible decisions and that tog genuinely had a fuck ton of flaws and 2) antis do a really, really, really good job of making you feel fucking stupid for being a fan. And if I didnā€™t like Aelin.... yeah tbh I probably wouldnā€™t be a fan. Liking Aelin is literally the reason Iā€™m still here because when I started to interact more and more withĀ ā€œantiā€ content I just couldnā€™t do it because all of them DESPISE her and reading anti-Aelin posts genuinely makes my stomach hurt lol. It sounds embarrassing but Iā€™m not even kidding when I say my heart races. She has been an inspiration to me literally since m*ddle sch*ol and thereā€™s just no fucking way for me to drop her.Ā 
5. About the original query of: why acotar = tog?? (I love eloquence and writing and being an eloquent writer) I think what you said about abandoning EVERYTHING sjm has done being the easy/ā€wokeā€ choice is spot-on. I also think that the system of seeing Aelin as SJMā€™s insert within the story and then allowing yourself to enjoy anything that isnā€™t involved with her can be applied to acotar if you replace Aelin with Rhysand/Feyre... although I donā€™t wanna speak too soon because I didnā€™t even finish that series slkfjadjfsdfa; so I wouldnā€™t really know. Either way what Iā€™m saying is that they find the same justifications to keep reading/buying those books because the (frankly impressive) mental gymnastics routine theyā€™ve developed for ā€œreading tog in an anti-sjm wayā€ can also be applied to acotar.Ā 
6. Literally just copy and paste ur last paragraph here. Holy fuck yes every word.Ā 
7. I would die for you
Another really interesting/weird/whatever thing Iā€™ve noticed about peopleā€™s opinions of tog, I guess mainly ā€œantiā€ opinions, is that thereā€™s likeā€¦ no separation from sjmā€™s other work. Much more than #anti tog I see #anti sjm, meaning both tog and acotar and I guess just her as a person?
Like at some point I was mutuals with someone who shared a lot of my opinions - really loved tog and found a lot of value in it, but also very critical of it and didnā€™t pull punches when it came to pointing out flaws. And then at some point they just started posting straight-up anti tog stuff - like saying they hated the series and Aelin was the worst and there wasnā€™t a single redeeming factor. If you went to their blog and searched ā€œtogā€ it was like a few recent anti posts at the top and then an immediate switch to rowaelin fanart, with pretty much no division in between. And I was like ā€œwoah, when did that happen?ā€ so I messaged and asked, and they were like ā€œOh, acowar was when she lost me. I just canā€™t be a fan anymore.ā€
And that is so fascinating to me. Ever since I started thinking about it I canā€™t stop noticing it everywhere - people send asks that are like ā€œI hate Aelin/Rhysand and Mor, Manon, and Chaol deserved betterā€ and tag issues that are really solely about acotar with #anti tog (or vice versa) and #anti sjm as if itā€™s all one package deal.Ā 
Itā€™s all ā€œsjm stans thisā€ andĀ ā€œsjm stans thatā€ and itā€™s like girlā€¦ Iā€™m not anĀ ā€œsjm stanā€ lmfao she and I are not friends and Iā€™m not even ~that~ into acotar Iā€™m just here for Ms Aelin Galathyniusā€¦ And in other fandoms I feel like itā€™s normal to have that kind of separation but here people treat Aelin like she snuck out of the book and collaborated with sjm to break up malide.
Maybe this happens in every fandom? I wouldnā€™t really know but I guess I just donā€™t see people being like ā€œI HATED what Joss Whedon did with the Avengers heā€™s misogynist and terrible fuck himĀ #anti buffy the vampire slayerā€. You know? Itā€™s just interesting.
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