#but like. please tell me you guys aren’t actually pronouncing it [veːl] instead of [vɪːɫ]. please tell me the wiktionary ipa transcription
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welcome to another episode of “is this a common pronunciation or is it just my accent”
trying to develop a semi-phonetic vowel system for my dutch tengwar mode. this sucks ass <- is enjoying it but also it’s hard :(
#I’ve always seen my accent as fairly standard so like. I’d like to know!#but what I can find online isn’t much help </3#but like. please tell me you guys aren’t actually pronouncing it [veːl] instead of [vɪːɫ]. please tell me the wiktionary ipa transcription#is just a simplification#the only person I’ve ever heard pronounce ‘veel’ as the former is my grandpa and he’s 1) really old 2) a kakker#elli rambles#basically the thing is that I’ve noticed when close-mid or mid vowels are followed by a [ɹ] [ʀ] or [ɫ] the openness of the vowel changes#at least it does for me lol#so what would usually be pronounced /eː/; /øː/; and /oː/ or /o̞ː/#becomes [ɪː]; [ʏː] or [œː]; and [ɔː]#roughly. again I’m not incredibly well-versed in ipa lol I’m just very fond of browsing wikipedia pages on phonetics and such#(also I’ve noticed I pronounce ‘eu’ kind of differently than what the wikipedia page on dutch & ipa says (ø)? I think I might pronounce it#more like a diphthong; [øy] maybe? might depend on the situation)#anyway. this is why I use an orthographic english mode instead of a phonetic one. I don’t know how I pronounce shit.#I’d be sounding out words every other syllable & then just grabbing my phone and googling the pronunciation#now I only need to do so every few words#it’s mostly the vowels that get me tho especially in english#irregular-ass pronunciation
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