#but like with early seasons sam esp… i see the vision

[niaerinisms]

Now this is like 75% me just seeing what I want to see but…. Nia/Sam parallelism…

[samclownchester]

Supernatural Rewatch 01x10

Asylum 

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(Not spoiler free, I’ve watched up to 15x13)

More John and Chuck Parallels, I guess I am going to have to write this essay after all

SAM: You know, he could be dead for all we know.

DEAN: Don't say that! He's not dead! He's – he's...

SAM: He's what? He's hiding? He's busy?

I’m not going to get too deep into it here. I’ll just file away some of what happened in this episode and bring it up later, but this does remind me a lot of conversations they have about God before they know he’s Chuck. Once again, with the role reversal, Dean assuming the worst, that God has abandoned them, and Sam stubbornly arguing that God must be watching, must be involved (still bitter that the faith Sam had for so many nears turned out to be for naught but anyway ... that’s for episode 12)

Alright, so the main conflict in this episode is the tension that has started building between the brothers, they’ve been having arguments about their dad through almost all the episodes, but this one really brings out the frustration Sam is feeling with Dean. Dean, as an older brother (and as a type 8) is used to being in charge. Sam normally goes along with this, but in this episode he’s tired of always doing what Dean wants. Now, obviously this is part of a very long arc in their relationship, and I’m not even going to scratch the surface right now, but it will be interesting to track how this progresses throughout the series, because at some point Sam stops pushing back against Dean so much, as I have mentioned in my previous rewatch summaries. (I’m still curious to figure out exactly when he started feeling like following was easier than leading)

But, focusing less on the 15 seasons show and more on what’s specifically happening in this episode:

Firstly, we see that Dean and Sam are still uncomfortable with Sam’s visions. Dean teases him about it, but the teasing seems to really bother Sam.  Dean kinda seems like he’s acting like his typical big brother self, teasing Sam, but when Sam tries to seriously explain what his “powers” are like, Dean brushes it off saying “Whatever, don’t ask don’t tell.” (Reference to Homosexuality; when I say that Sam’s powers are an analogy for being queer … ), Dean acts like he doesn’t want to hear about them being talked about seriously, and then couple of lines later teases Sam with another “psychic” joke. This doesn’t come up when Sam lets out his anger later in the episode, but this has to be wearing on him, that Dean is poking fun at something that is really serious to him, but won’t have a real conversation about it.

DEAN: Let me know if you see any dead people, Haley Joel.

SAM: Dude, enough.

DEAN: I'm serious. You gotta be careful, all right? Ghosts are attracted to that whole ESP thing you got going on.

SAM: I told you, it's not ESP! I just have strange vibes sometimes. Weird dreams.

DEAN: Yeah, whatever. Don't ask, don't tell. (File under queercoded Sam Winchester – we’ll get back to that later)

…

DEAN: Hey Sam, who do you think is the hotter psychic: Patricia Arquette, Jennifer Love Hewitt, or you?

 Now, the early seasons of Supernatural often used this idea of possession/supernatural influence forcing the brothers to reveal their issues to each other. We saw a little of Dean’s inner thoughts in “Skin” and in this episode we see Sam, who’s rage has been accentuated by the spirit they are fighting, attacking Dean for the blind trust he puts in John.

DEAN: Sam, put the gun down.

SAM: Is that an order?

DEAN: Nah, it's more of a friendly request.

SAM: ’Cause I'm getting pretty tired of taking your orders.

DEAN: I knew it. Ellicott did something to you.

SAM: For once in your life, just shut your mouth.

DEAN: What are you gonna do, Sam? Gun's filled with rock salt. It's not gonna kill me.

SAM: No. But it will hurt like hell.

DEAN: We gotta burn Ellicott's bones and all this will be over, and you'll be back to normal.

SAM: I am normal. I'm just telling the truth for the first time. I mean, why are we even here? ’Cause you're following Dad's orders like a good little solider? Because you always do what he says without question? Are you that desperate for his approval?

DEAN: This isn't you talking, Sam.

SAM: That's the difference between you and me. I have a mind of my own. I'm not pathetic, like you.

Earlier in the episode Sam made a comment about following “Dad’s orders” but now that he’s had his inhibitions stripped, we can see how much animosity he’s been hiding. Sam will normally choose to be passive, to let people like Dean and John take the lead. Like Dean said in 1x02, Sam is normally not the belligerent one, but we are being introduced to him when he’s been pushed really far emotionally. He is done taking orders from a dad who never understood him, and he’s done with Dean’s blind faith that he doesn’t understand.

So, nothing really revelatory character-wise but definitely an interesting episode

[sayruq]

What do u think twow is going to include? I kept thinking maybe just season 6 and then the rest is season 7 and 8 but from what I know they’ve cut off so much from adwd that I can’t see 7/8 having enough material to be a book

There are 20 POV characters in TWoW:

Sansa- the Vale plotline, though according to the writers she leaves soon. I mean they’re having a feast where the mountain clans can reach them so I’m inclined to agree. The show storyline might happen in the books just without the rape since Sansa will be QITN, she’ll have to be quickly introduced to Northern politics

Davos - finds Rickon, we see unicorns, might go to Castle Black if the Boltons still hold Winterfell if Stannis dies or is defeated

Arya - leaves the Faceless Assassins. Might go to the Riverlands for Nymeria and the Brotherhood without Banners. After all they did follow her mother

Jon - resurrected. Might become king, GRRM did want a fight between direwolves and Ramsay’s hounds so maybe hee’s involved instead of going to Hardhome like some people speculate

Bran - learns more about his powers and the Others but ultimately leaves Bloodraven after the Hodor thing

Arianne - goes to Aegon VI. Strikes up a deal with him that’ll likely involve marriage. They take King’s Landing together

Jon C - dies. Might cause a plague

Asha - maybe she escapes with Theon Stannis if he loses and goes to the Iron Island to restart the kingsmoot because Theon is alive

Theon - goes to the Iron Islands and starts to reclaim himself

Sam - watches Euron destroy Old Town. Maybe he and Sarella realised what the horn he has been carrying can do, maybe they realise as Euron blows it

Aeron - gets sacrificed. I kinda like the idea that he sees the drowned god

Cersei - she goes off after Kevan is found. I’ll be shocked if Cersei doesn’t die in King’s Landing. A bloodbath

Jaime - realises that Brienne was used to lure him, manages to escape the execution, goes to King’s Landing. Unlike most people I think Jaime would be furious Brienne lied to him no matter her reasons. I also think that maybe Jaime kills Cersei to stop Brienne’s execution. I also think that maybe Jaime is forced to witness the second Red Wedding. Honestly I don’t know. Anything could happen

Tyrion caught in between the battle of Meereen. He’s still alive when Daenerys comes back and offers his knowledge to her

Daenerys - becomes the Stallion, kills the Khals, unites the Dothraki. Begins really living up to her fire and blood mantra. Unlike show Daenerys, book Daenerys will crucify the masters, kill their soldiers and lead the Dothraki to sack Yunkai as it was the only Slaver’s Bay city state she did not destroy. Sails for Westeros. Arrives and goes to war with Aegon

Melisandre - either she burns Shireen to resurrect Jon or Stannis comes and she convinces him. I think she’ll get a series of visions that shake her up because she knows they’re running out of time.

Areo - I need to reread AFFC to guess but I really think he’ll die in this book

Victarion - I also think he dies pretty early in this book

Brienne- trauma trauma trauma. She’ll survive but I do think she’ll be present for RW 2.0. I’m one of the few (I think) who actually thinks Lady Stoneheart will be killed by Brienne. Arya has to escape the assassins, travel to the Riverlands, meet her mother and kill her. I feel like Lady Stoneheart dies sooner than that. Maybe because I feel like the set up of RW 2.0 is already there or maybe I’ve read too many theories. 

I also think the Others attack sooner than people realise. Euron just happens to attack the same place where Sam is, can’t be a coincidence esp if the former bloodraven’s student thing is confirmed. I think he went looking for the horn