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karaspal · 8 days ago
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s4 kara danvers expensive coats, you will always be loved by me!!!
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buddha-in-disguise · 5 years ago
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I haven’t had a chance to watch 5.17 again yet, but some initial thoughts.
1st things 1st, there were some sublime choices from Melissa Benoist as the Director. I have a couple of screen captures of the ones that immediately spring to mind. She definitely showed her nuanced understanding of the characters, and that really was so fantastic to see. She deserves another shot in the directors chair in S6 if she wants to (& it sounds from interviews as if it is something she’d like to have chance to do more of). Even without understanding the characters, some of the lighting & overall framing of shots were so good! From lighting to just mirroring chess board pieces. I loved it. I felt the Eve fight scene was pretty masterful.
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The episode itself. Whilst it did give up a couple of twists (the most major being Lex set up Jeremiah’s death), honestly it fell pretty flat for a number of different reasons.
My biggest problem (& this isn’t new for me), is that Lex’s behaviour was entirely predictable. That all bar a couple of plot points weren’t things that the fandom haven’t already talked about in one way or another almost Ad nauseam.
A big part for me was this flashback episode leaves us with no more truly relevant details on things than before the episode began.
Lex setting up Leviathan? Knew he was going to do it, this is Lex we are talking about.
Lex manipulating Lena, especially against Kara. C’mon, you’d have to be either blind, or in denial this has been going on for months on his manipulation of Lena. Yes, she should realise he is doing it, but again, Lena (as even Mon-El mentions) is the product of her abusive family. That doesn’t simply disappear!
Eve - we knew she was back, so again no real surprise on Lex manipulating her. Again (oh and side note. If you’re going to hate on Lena for ‘killing’ people & say her manipulation by Lex doesn’t excuse her, but don’t say the same thing about Eve, who killed outright for both Leviathan and Lex, your hypocritical hatred of Lena is showing. Check yourself at the door).
Lillian. She had already admitted she wasn’t Earth 38 Lillian to Lex from the award ceremony dialogue. So again, it wasn’t a surprise.
Honestly I could keep going, but you get the picture.
With only 2 episodes left, (& even had it been a full 3 episodes as I expect them to perhaps try and extend 5.19 into a longer one, perhaps over 1.5 hours instead of the usual hour schedule), we still have no clear answers on anything. Leviathan? Nothing was added to their story, and considering they were supposed to be the big villain of S5, only Lex has been that so far. And when you have an episode that does nothing more than we saw in S4, to ‘expose’ Lex ..... news flash. We know all this about him.
What we don’t know is who leads Leviathan? Who else is part of the organisation? We practically know nothing about them.
I felt this episode would’ve been better placed after Winn’s first episode (I’ve said I felt having him over that 2 episode arc was a waste, as again that 2nd episode did absolutely nothing plot wise that couldn’t have been added in the 1st episode, & the 1st episode didn’t add a lot either! I’m not saying don’t bring Winn back, but make it relevant & not 2 filler episodes). To have it done so late in the season makes zero sense to me. It feels messy.
On to William Dey. I’m not even going to try & pretend I like the character. I absolute despise him, & not because of trying to be Kara’s LI. I despise him, because once again we had him in scenes that others should have been in, especially Alex at the beginning. She is supposedly working with J’onn, and while I get they might not want her around Lex, have her working remotely from the tower, sending that information from the video clip to J’onn and Kara. After all, she did that from the DEO. J’onn has all that computing power & I’ve yet to see it used to any full potential.
I also found it strange William just walked up to Kara & J’onn as if they’re best of buddies, but we have nothing to suggest he knows Kara is Supergirl. I hate he has that level of familiarity with them. It again feels rushed & disjointed & totally wrong for any of the characters. Failing having Alex working it, how about having Nia, who again I keep repeating, is an actual reporter, but also as Dreamer could help scout out & report back in with them all back at the Tower.
I also found the wording Lex used to Eve in regards William. "Activate William."
So activate how exactly? Sure they got him working as a journalist, but how? Through clues being sent to him? Is he under some kind of control? I can think of a host of different ways to phrase that, but activate? That sounds an awful lot like some kind of manipulation that is far more than straight forward sending William some clues is about.
And about this. William is a Nobel Prize winning Journalist, & yet not once has he been able to do anything without someone giving him the heads up! I know some journalism requires that, but constantly? If he is so good at his job, he should be finding more than dead ends. It grates like crazy.
Then he simply arrives at Kara’s with sympathy baked goodies - only to then launch into needing help over what he has found. There is a time & a place for that kind of thing. That was neither the time nor the place. I know Lex wanted to get Leviathan on board with his plan, & needed to show they were about to get Supergirl looking at them far too closely, but really? Just no. He could’ve met Kara at CatCo. Met Kelly at Obsidean. Texted or called Kara to check it was okay to drop by her apartment even. But doing so unannounced, when he knows Kara & Alex have just lost their father? It also grates.
Now onto Kelly - lovely to see her supporting Alex - and Kara - after the loss of Jeremiah. But does she know Kara is Supergirl? We still don’t know for certain! The inference in this episode is Kelly does know, as William tells them about the warehouse, then Kelly & Alex are at the tower with J’onn in the same outfits, as Supergirl lands, stating there was nothing at the warehouse. So yes, it is highly likely Kelly now knows. But how or when did she know. It’s these kind of details most fans actual want, not to have to make educated guesses on! This is a reason fans get frustrated. We were being told who used to get to know Supergirl’s identity, but now with Kelly, nothing! And people wonder why fans feel the LGBTQ characters are getting shortchanged this season. It isn’t just about lack of screen time. It’s about lack of depth of story, when previously they had people falling over themselves to show how they knew Kara was Supergirl.
Another example of this lack of depth or explanation is Brainy. Sure he is likely doing what he is because of future Brainy’s warning, but it still comes across as Brainy seemingly stupid considering his apparent intellect. We have been thrown these plot lines, but they’re then left for us to have to fill in the blanks as each episode airs, as we’re not getting them otherwise.
It is far too chaotic for my liking.
So once again my overriding sense after watching this episode is frustration. It still feels like a total mess, with no answers (& even if they give us those answers, 3 episodes - now 2 - would be nowhere near enough time to do it without rushing. It even felt rushed at times in this episode).
William continues to be an absolute waste of space, (and God do I feel sorry for Staz over this), taking perfectly good screen time away from other already established characters, who could do what he has just as easily.
The Kara and Lena push & pull is giving us nothing new! Nothing. It’s gone well past giving us angst to us having had enough. Like with Lex, they seem to have gone too far with a good thing, & now rather than enjoying it, the majority simply hate it. With a passion. I am sick to the back teeth with it. Lena deserves to finally be rid of this villain tag, & given her rightful place back with the Superfriends (after a damn sit down talk with Kara - not Supergirl - and get on some level ground for good this time). I don’t expect a miraculous friendship rebuilt in seconds, but I do want actual forward progress between them to stick. Not 1 step forward, 2 steps back. I certainly don’t want this carrying on into S6, or at least not without resolving more than this.
In all the 5 seasons I’ve watched Supergirl, I don’t think there has ever been such underlying anger or frustration on how the season has panned out, both from fans & media alike. The disconnect from the fans to the show is huge right now, & really I cannot understand how the end of S4, which was seen as a real step forward for the show, to the excitement of S5, & how it was being portrayed; to this.
I want so much to be able to sit here & write positively over the episodes generally, but too often this season I’ve not been able to do it. I feel so sorry for the cast, because I know they love the show so much, and I want nothing more than to be writing positively about it each episode, but I simply can’t do that.
So in conclusion.
Phenomenal directing by Melissa Benoist.
Complete & utter frustration & disconnect everywhere else.
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narraboths · 5 years ago
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So what’s your ranking for Lena’s best/worst outfits of the series so far? Best/worst meaning the outfit is so hysterically bad but Katie has to do what needed to be done and she made it work 😂
it’s hard to pick like even a top 10 for the best bc otherwise the dark era of late S3 to mid S4 & then the general dark era of S5, she’s had a pretty stunning wardrobe – some great shifts for sure, but mostly very solid stuff. i love probably every single one of her S2 looks; they’re much less high concept than later on but they’re almost unfailingly harmonious colours & very flatteringly fitting on her so like. all around win. this is not the absolute best all time, but i am very very fond of the 2x05 outfit she wore to Kara’s apartment + the 3x02 one which ppl keep roasting as a granny look for whatever reason when it’s not only completely in line w like, every other business look of hers in S2 but also one of the rare instances on the show where she had a pair of Louboutins on, for which we’d stan anyway even if she didn’t deliver the whole gently scolding on top of it all:
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also like. let’s talk suits cause we GOTTA and if S5 did anything it was delivering the SUPERIOR looks in that area:
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and we cant even begin to list the dresses lmao cause theyve been DELIVERING in that department with some considerable triumphs. 3x12 vampire lady + 4x03 worried wifey moment + 4x04 green + 5x01 gala dress though absolutely yes tho.
all-time worst, on the other hand, would probably be:
the 4x01 yellow shirt + the fugly skirt she had left over from Andrea combo monstrosity, like the only saving grace of that is the gayness in retrospective now that they’ve chucked it on Julie too for a single flashback. 
every single problem print dress from late S3/mid-S4
all the Janet outfits and leopard prints. fucking burn it im begging
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thelittlefanpire · 6 years ago
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The 100 Ask Game
okay, I was searching through @dylanobrienisbatman’s echo tag for some head canons awhile back and stumbled upon this! I’ve tweaked it a little and added some things from S5 and omg this is so fun! thanks to whoever made this ask game! S6 STARTS TONIGHT!
1. What Station on the Ark would you be from?
Farm Station. I grew up in the south and my great/grandparents all owned farms so yeah, probably Farm Station.
2. What would you get arrested for on the Ark?
I think this happened to a character in the book...I would probably get locked up for getting pregnant as a teen! lol
3. Would you take off your wristband when you landed on the ground?
If Bellamy Blake asked me to, you bet I would.
4. What would the necklace Finn would make for you look like? (Clarke: deer/Raven: a raven duh..)
an eagle 🦅
5. If you could resurrect any MINOR character who would it be?
WELLS DESERVED BETTER JAHA
6. Create a squad of 5 characters to go on missions with. Who are they?
The Leaders: Bellamy Blake & Clarke Griffin
The Brains: Raven Reyes & Monty Green
The Muscle : Lincoln kom Trikru
7. What Grounder Clan would you belong to you?
Geographically, I would probably reside in Trikru somewhere. But I really want to live in Shallow Valley. I wish we had seen more of that clan!
8. What would your name be in Trigedasleng? (example: Octavia=Okteivia…just make it up!)
sara - sera ? I don’t know. lol
9. Thoughts on Finn? Some people hate him, and others love him, so I’m curious
He was okay in the beginning. I was pissed when I found out he had a girlfriend in space and was trying to get with Clarke on the ground. I did not like him at all in S2! The guy really lost it in the end.
10. Be honest. How willing would you have been to take the chip without knowing all the horrible things it does?
I would have been able to resist in the beginning. Maybe took a step back to watch others take it first. But peer pressure, man. I would have given in eventually.
11. What character do you relate to most?
Clarke Griffin. She’s been isolated a lot and that’s something I relate to. And her Mama Bear instincts.
12. What character do you like the least?
S1- Finn, S2- Cage Wallace, S3- Pike, S4- Echo, S5- Kara Cooper
13. Describe your delinquent outfit. (Would you wear something like Murphy’s jacket with the spikey red shoulder patch or have a trademark like Jasper’s goggles? Be creative, yet practical)
Clarke’s soda tab jacket or Raven’s red bomber jacket!
14. Favorite type of mutant animal?
The blue butterflies! 🦋
15. What would your job be on the Ark?
A teacher! Teaching Earth History! Oh, that sounds amazing.
16. Would you have willingly pumped Ontari’s heart if Abby asked?
Barf.
17. If Lexa wasn’t Heda, but she was still alive then who would have made the best commander?
Luna. Is there any other answer but Luna?
Nightblood aside, I think Octavia (with Lincoln still alive to influence her) would be a cool choice too.
18. How would you act if you ate the hallucinogenic nuts like Jasper and Monty?
Paranoid af.
19. How would you have dealt with Charlotte’s crime? A more John Murphy approach or Bellamy Blake approach?
Bellamy Blake approach.
20. Who should have been the Chancellor, if anyone?
I don’t care who is the Chancellor, but Clarke Griffin is in charge. lol. Kane was the best leader for Skaikru on the ground.
21. Would you have been on Pike’s side like Bellamy or on Kane’s side? Or Clarke in Polis?
Kane’s side! Viva la revolución!
22. Mount Weather had a lot of modern commodities. (example: Maya’s Ipod) What is the one thing you would snatch while there?
Chocolate. All the chocolate!
23. What would your Grounder tattoos look like? Hairstyle? War paint?
Tattoos: let me get that eagle across my back or on my sternum that I’ve always wanted
Hairstyle: the most epic Harper style braid please
War paint: no thanks
24. Favorite quote?
”In peace, may you leave this shore.
In love, may you find the next.
Safe passage on your travels,
until our final journey to the ground.
May we meet again.”
-The Traveler’s Blessing
Or literally anything Bellamy Blake says. lol
25. If all of the characters were in the Hunger Games, who would have the best shot at winning?
I feel like as unlikely as it is, the show really has Octavia set up as Warrior Princess Goddess Hero and she would win. lol. As far as forming alliances and making it to the end...Clarke Griffin could make it with Bellamy Blake by her side throwing back nighlock berries till the end.
26. Least favorite ship? Favorite canon ship? Favorite non canon ship? NOT INCLUDING CL OR BC OR BE
Least: Mackson
Favorite canon: Zaven
Favorite non-canon: Sea Mechanic
27. A song that should be included in the next season? If there had to be another guest star like Shawn Mendes on the show, who would you want to make a cameo?
Radioactive needs to make another appearance in S6
Musical Guest Star: how about Hozier?
28. What would you do if you were stuck in the bunker with Murphy for all that time?
We’d probably go crazy.
29. Your an extra that gets killed off. How do you die?
Bellamy Blake choking me to death... (can’t believe this took me so long to answer. Is there really any other answer from me?)
30. A character you’d like to learn more about and get flashbacks of?
I would have liked more flashbacks of Roan and Luna and Lincoln. Spacekru on the Ring. Emori? Harper? literally everyone, right?
31. A character you’d bang?
Bellamy Blake. All day. Every day.
32. Would you stay in the Bunker? Go up to Space? Or live on your own in Eden?
SPACE!
33. In the Bunker, would you follow Octavia? What would you do to pass the time underground?
Sure. I don’t think I’d have much of a choice. I’d probably help take care of all the little kids!
34. What crime would you commit in the Bunker that lands you in the fighting pits?
Okay, so the way my life works I would probably get pregnant...again. And steal some blankets or something that I needed for all my kids. I’m not even going to front and say I survive that fighting pit sooo hope Blodreina trains them little squirts well!
35. Up in Space, who would you bond with first? Who would be the most difficult for you to get along with?
I’m instantly bonding with Harper. She’s the sweetest.
I’m going to be a little leary of Bellamy Blake during his Clarke ‘I left her behind’ Griffin Depression hour. So he’s probably really mopey and moody. And let’s just avoid him for a while.
36. How long do you think you would last on Earth by yourself?
Two weeks? I’d probably starve to death.
37. When the Eligius ship lands what do you do?
HIDE! And then spy on them. Figure out who they are and if they’re friendly. Go to them for help if they are. Take them all out in their sleep if they’re not.
38. Favorite Eligius character? Least favorite?
Miles Ezekiel ‘Zeke’ Shaw!
That creepy Kodiak guy.
39. Would you Spacewalk?
Hell yes!
40. Would you prefer to eat Windshield Bugs, Space Algae, or Bunker Meat?
Bugs, definitely bugs.
41. Would you start a war for the last spot of green on earth? What would your solution be to avoid it?
I’d fight for it.
42. Would you rather dig out flesh-eating worms or stick thumb drives into bullet holes?
BAND-AIDS DON’T FIX BULLET HOLES — AND NEITHER DO THUMB DRIVES. That was such a clever move. I’m going with thumb drives over worms. I hate the worm scene. gross!
43. Are you willing to poison your sister for the Traitor Who You Love? What would you do to stop Octavia?
I’m not a big fan of my sister, so yes. Was there any easier way to stop Octavia? I mean, Clarke wanted to kill her. They wanted to protect Madi. As much as that scene pained me I think Bellamy did the right thing soooo I would poison her.
44. Would you go to sleep in cryo or stay awake like Marper?
Stay asleep. Unless I’m living my entire life with Bellamy Blake by my side I dont want it.
45. Who are you waking up first to explore the new planet?
JR isn’t going to give it to us so I’m waking up Octavia so her and Jordan can have a First One on the Ground Pilot parallel!
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