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#but it was the wild west after that episode came out everyone was playing telephone and claiming that jokes were facts
dashiellqvverty · 1 year
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sincerely curious what that spn video got wrong, i watched it and it was pretty obvious she was a longtime supernatural fan. what details were inaccurate? /gen
what i was specifically talking about is that there’s a book (Ship It) based on an incident that happened at a supernatural convention, written by someone who was a writer on riverdale, and i often see people mention it and claim that the book led to her getting the job on riverdale, but in actuality she was already a working on the show when the book was published. and when people say this they say they learned about it from a sarah z video. personally i have no idea whether this was mentioned in a spn video or something else entirely bc i haven’t watched her stuff in a long time
like i said in the tags though i’m not sure if i ever ACTUALLY watched her spn video… i don’t think i did but it’s possible i did and forgot the details. sometimes i watch her stuff out of curiosity but i am really just not a fan of her videos and that one came out during a huge wave of people just sort of parroting what they’d heard about the episode and taking jokes as facts (the main one being. superhell itself. which is not what the empty is), often from people who used to love the show but had since quit and simply didn’t have the context for what actually happened (i may have a biiiiit of a complex about this because even though i did quit during season 10 i caught up before s15 came out and watched most of it live)
so given my existing dislike for sarah z i just kind of assumed that would be the vibe, and i don’t think i ever watched it to find out bc i was so sick of ppl who hadn’t even watched the episode much less the final season chiming in to “explain” it. i don’t know if that accurately describes her but i was just sick of the whole thing lmao
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book-o-scams · 7 years
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Either 1. Do an analysis on the scene from Run for Your Ed where the Kanker's find that their ship-in-a-bottle is missing. Or if you don't want to do an analysis (please think about doing one though) you can just answer this question. Why is the Kanker's ship-in-a-bottle so important? * If you have any questions see the post on my blog. You have until Sunday to complete the analysis.
I’m excited to do this because ‘Run For Your Ed’ is a really great Kanker episode AND a really great LATER episode.  Season 4′s Kanker episodes have some of the most intentional character-exploration in the show’s entire run, and it’s really nice to see AKA so proactive about developing characters who are usually treated like extras, especially during an era  era where they were having trouble developing the central characters.  This season contains at least 3 episodes that begin from the Kankers’ perspective and humanize their motivations before setting them loose on the cul-de-sac, this being one of those episodes.  This season also contains ‘A Twist of Ed’, an interesting episode that begins from the Eds’ perspective but starts blending in the Kankers’ perspective when the Eds start to turn the tables on them.  It’s disappointing that we don’t really get any Kanker-focused episodes during the digital era of the show, but at least season 5 finally breaks status quo, first by having the Eds publicly declare the Kankers to be their girlfriends, and in the end by scaring the Kankers away for most post-s5 episodes.
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Here’s a weird thing I noticed… for the last 3 episodes of season 4, the storyboard credit screen does not actually say “storyboard by.“  And although they are all episodes with the “Tout Le Monde“ credit--  a trend mostly used during seasons 2 and 4, while season 3 had more solo episodes and season 1 wasn’t credited very clearly, it’s a French phrase they use when all of the storyboard artists in the studio contributed pieces of the episode-- earlier instances of “Tout Le Monde“ as late as s4′s ‘Stuck in Ed’ included the “storyboard by“ line.  Kinda seems like an oversight as season 4′s deadlines got tight...  But obviously I know this is nitpicking, regardless it’s very interesting that Danny wanted the show to go out with so many group-effort episodes.  I wonder if perhaps it was to improve morale when everyone was feeling out of ideas?  Or if the artists actually disliked not receiving clearer credit?
Anyway the other reason I wanted to include this screenshot for Kanker appreciation month is that I noticed the Tout Le Monde episodes of seasons 2 and 4 (IIRC, it’s just Homecooked Eds, A Twist of Ed, Run For Your Ed, and technically the movie although it is not credited to Tout Le Monde) produced some of the most iconic Kanker moments and I think the Kankers’ group dynamics are influenced by the team spirit at AKA.
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This is the first time we see the trailer park at night and the only time we see it at night without it being buried under snow.
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Oh, I also have model sheets archived for this episode!  Here are some color tests using season 1 background lineart:
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This episode is the only time we get to see the Kankers all sleeping in their bed, as well as the only time we get to see their pajamas.  I’m fascinated by which characters get pajamas and other sorts of alternate outfits.
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So things begin peacefully enough, with Brahms Lullaby, lotsa night ambience, and a cute gag where the Kankers each have their own obnoxious snore that somehow doesn’t wake the others.
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But soon enough, one crash downstairs wakes Lee and a second crash wakes Marie. 
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The storyboarding seems to be intentionally framing this as the older sisters sharing a feeling of responsibility for their household.
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Ohh, I also love whenever we get to see the Kankers scared shitless like this, it’s surprisingly not as rare as you’d think.
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Have some cute sleepy Mays:
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The girls have each others’ backs as they cautiously look down their staircase.
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Thankfully I have the model sheet so we can fully appreciate this perspective:
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In a subtle and effectively creepy little bit of animation, all the Kankers see is a tiny tin can rolling out of their kitchen.
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Marie and May immediately turn to Lee for their next move.
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LOVE this shot with the kitchen light.  Season 4 also has the hands-down BEST trailer backgrounds, we get to see so many interesting perspectives in these episodes.
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Lee seemingly lets her sisters stay behind and charges to the kitchen with their wall-mounted swordfish (or is that a marlin…?).
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However, the intruder has already left and we get a few more looks at the nighttime trailer park:
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Relieved, Lee and Marie jump into the window and bark insults at the intruder.  Another good older sisters sequence, and this one I have a couple storyboard panels for:
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They inspect their wrecked kitchen, and at first the background, Lee’s tone and the music sync up to make this look like a really depressing moment, this family with little to begin with having been eaten out of house and home.  And as fans, the next scene’s reveal that this is a redux of Ed’s sleepeating from season 1 is no surprise, and I think it’s being portrayed a bit less amusing now that it’s affecting families outside of Peach Creek’s ritzy suburbs.
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But then we get this dramatic shot of Marie holding the table and it always throws off the mood of this scene to me…  I still love the scene as a whole but when Marie whines “why’s it always the good ones that get away!?” while looking at a bite mark out of something inedible, it kind of implies weird things about the Kankers and adult strangers and really any trailer park weirdo who might break in…  Especially after what the Kankers do without a second thought to Bro in BPS, this is more than a bit concerning.  It’s right up there with Marie saying “I LIKE cheaters“ in her second appearance, sometimes Marie’s defining trait in my mind is that she’s somehow LESS rational than the others.. Or maybe it’s just another reference to this specific interest they’ve picked up from their mom, in men who have big appetites…
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I always want to believe this is actually a more absurd gag and that Marie is instead saying it to mourn the table where she eats all her meals, in more of a “why do the good die young” way… but then Lee and Marie continue the conversation, referring to this stranger as a bum they shouldn’t shed tears over and it’s cemented as a creepy moment.
Moving on, I love this unnecessarily detailed ketchup bottle Lee shakes and then tosses on the floor:
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At least Marie ends up agreeing with Lee.  Then Marie makes a joke about May being the only one to clean this up and it gets a laugh out of Lee.
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I love how much the later backgrounds in the show focus on how these homes look from various standpoints… Makes the world feel very lived in.
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Take note of how the front door has been eaten through by Ed, exposing their yellow car out front. Ed apparently nibbled on EVERYTHING along that wall on the right…We also see a new telephone, a Chekhov’s Gun for a later gag in this scene…
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Love the trumpets blaring as the camera swirls up to the missing heirloom.
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“HOLY TOLEDO!” Lee and Marie exclaim in unison to underline that this is crossing a major line.
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This angle is making my mouth water.  Latter-day EEnE backgrounds are to die for.
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Getting back to my favorite time-wasting Kanker gag, even at their most personally attacked and mutually motivated, the siblings have to fight over who gets to hold the plaque first.
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Marie strikes first.
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Yay, May called first dibs before they jumped!
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OH NO
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Lee looks so much like Bro in this pose…
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Could these just be Toomey’s drawings?  I’m not sure how often he storyboarded or how often he changed drawings during the design phase since the show’s so close to the boarders’ styles, but I feel like these square jaws are something I keep noticing when archiving Toomey’s model sheets.
Also, I love the phrase “someone shanghaied our ship inna bottle,“ very nautical.
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May is moved to tears yet again this season as she fills the audience in on how this is a family heirloom that the Kankers were allowed to play with during bath nights at their old home.  Pretty cute memory, I wish the show had flashbacks at this point!
Does anyone know what it is May calls their old home here?  I’ve always heard it as “the Ol’ Hubcap“ which is convincing enough for me as a name for another local trailer park or just a nickname the Kankers would come up with for a nostalgic home, but it’s difficult to hear through her sobs.  Another popular theory, which I see is currently used on the EEnE Wikia’s transcript of the episode, is that she just says “the ol’ homestead,“ which is a pretty old-timey phrase if you ask me.. May’s certainly not made to feel “modern“ as much as Marie or Nazz are but it also seems unusual to give her such antiquated wild-west dialogue.
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Marie covers May’s mouth before she exposes any more vulnerability or personal details about their backstories.
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Marie is surprisingly lawful and proposes they call the cops.  I WISH WE GOT TO SEE THE COPS THEY MENTION AND THE FIRETRUCKS WE HEAR LATER IN THIS EPISODE, AAAARRRGGGHHHHH I just want to see more emergency vehicles, this season let us have an ambulance for Pete’s sake!
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HEY LOOK IT’S THE PHONE I POINTED OUT.
“WHAT’S THE NUMBER YOU DIAL FOR 9-1-1?!”
Uh.. May, put the phone down, the Little Rascals Movie’s calling, they want their joke back.  Sorry, this episode came out when I was 12 and going through a terrible Little Rascals phase. 
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This episode has really good camera direction…
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“NO COPS!!“  Why do I get the feeling their mom would punch a phone to prevent the cops from getting involved in anything…
Such good looking backlit sparks!  Gonna miss backlighting during the digital era.
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Can’t help but notice that these model sheets have been reversing the rimlighting on the Kankers…
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In this very well composed and cinematic feeling shot, Lee vows to find the crook and recover their bath toy, “Kanker Style…“
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Cue maniacal laughter and end scene!  It’s a pretty self-explanatory scene, but I really appreciate all the detail put into the Kankers’ poses and expressions and home life.  Season 4 doesn’t always sit right with me, but I think this episode has a pretty fun understanding of every character.  Hope you enjoyed studying this scene with me!
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