#but it was five years ago and I definitely hadn’t seen HoRS since it came out and was barely in the doctor who fandom at that time
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Can't say I'm not giving it a generous interpretation, but gotta make sense of it somehow… his best is all he can do!
Bows ARE cool — YES!!! He would do that, wouldn't he? <3
When it comes to Eleven and gift-giving and difficulty with human traditions — I can't not think of this scene (yeah I know it’s Extended Universe and it came out a couple months after HoRS but Moffat did approve this collection for publication):
He's trying so hard!
But also to move past things Moffat had any say in, the line kind of fits with R&J, where River laments how much better Jack would be about getting all the birthday and wedding traditions right (and how much worse at so many other things). She cares about that wrapping paper. But she won't tell the Doctor it bothers her until the chance arises for that slightly out of pocket comment on Darillium.
“I don’t think you’ve ever given me a present before”
me @ eleven
#you mighta(?) said at some point you’re not a fan of r&j (or maybe im imagining that) buuut it explains that line better than anything#next day now bc I posted the last reply at 4:30 AM lol I’d got up to send an email cuz I was stressin abt work but did a lil Tumblr too XD#and my HoRS selective memory working the other way around on this haha#I cannot overstate how much I despised this episode for so long and couldn't recall anything good about it. and i LOVE 'psychopath' river!#I am interested in that twitter thread of yours but also#is ‘dumb Darillium River’ something people often call her? because I know I called her that in the notes of#an elevenriver fic I posted five years ago and one commenter was like ‘haha yes dumb darillium river’#but it was five years ago and I definitely hadn’t seen HoRS since it came out and was barely in the doctor who fandom at that time#and though clearly I never lost my affinity for this couple in my barely-in-the-fandom years#I really wasn’t the right person to ask about anything Doctor Who in 2019. I cringe at that fic honestly#I ask because I’ve never heard anyone else say that phrasing and I'd thought I made it up XD but my memory is reeeeally bad#perhaps I did not#words by seaweed#river song#eleventh doctor
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