#but it was closed off or smt 🫤

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In North Earl street especially LMAO

WHO in their right minds is putting one of those portal things in Dublin

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Speaking of the holy blood - do not forget that the description of Sedatives outright states that THIS was 'the germ that resulted into blood healing', so I think it should be elaborated in the story of how exactly Laurence got hooked onto blood's healing properties. Apparently it being able to treat Frenzy was fascinating - and they NEEDED to treat Frenzy because initially Byrgenwerth worked with shit like runes, eyes, arcane. Frenzy is presumably connected with the hunt since it turns your blood into spears, so of course blood-based medicine (that Sedatives ARE) calms the 'thirst for blood'.

Okay, but enough 'well aktuali's, here is what I actually wanted to ask: do you have a take on why/how Yamamura, Gratia and a Yahar'gul Hunter (he is not Antal btw!) got into underground cell? Like, what they had to do to earn the place in the jail for people that knew too much? I always found it ironic because Yamamura reads church hunters' prayer and School of Mensis IS echelon of Healing Church :/

Oh you read this I see. So the sedatives description (in English at least) :

That's a good point I didn't think about it or I forgot it! There's hundred of things to think off all the time while imagining a coherent world and stories in Bloodborne world ahhhh I tried really hard to put every bit of Loren my things but damned I would need severals brain/years for smt almost perfect XD So yes people got mad because to the chalice dungeon and because of the arcane & insights (Gatekeeper, Willem, Dores, Madman & escort etc they became mad) so if knowledge made people become mad/cause frenzy, in order to gain more knowledge and insight you need blood healing and sedatives ! Plus I hc Gehrman & Maria took sedatives after the Hamlet too :/ and after... after Maria passed away..

Ok now the real question ! About the hunters in the cells after Ludwig in the nightmare! I actually never thought deeply about it 😐...

When I first play the game I assumed that Yamamura was just mad so they locked him up, for the Yahar'gul hunter maybe he spy on the church/attack someone or smt. For Gratia idk she seems the opposed of violent here. She feel completely broken, praying on the ground and curling in a corner... I imagine she could easily broke the door if she wanted. Damn I feel so bad for her but at least she's dead so her soul is free ;-;

But you just spike my inspiration I have ideas now!!! Ok let's just assume they died a while ago and in the nightmare they're trapped in the purgatory and repeating the horrible thing that happened in their life just before their death.

Now why were they locked in cells ? I have 2 main ideas :

They show signs of madness/beasthood/ bloodrunkness or that's what the church/someone believed : in the present time you got the black church hunters tracking down and potentially killing people before they became beast or even show symptoms or beasthood... maybe earlier people were just locked away waiting to see if they turned / or sent at the research hall to try to be cured (well they're gonna turn into beast, better be useful at smt I guess.. 🫤) So they turned and where lock in cells like many others people but fromsoftware is not gonna show hundred of people locked in cells so we got them...

They saw something they shouldn't have seen.

So I prefer the 2nd one but linked with the first one too maybe! Ok hear me out- WHAT IF ! What if. They saw Ludwig turned into his monstrous equine form ?? (if that's way before the first clerics beasts that wouldn't made great advertise for the healing church if it's known outside of their walls right? So they were locked in cells....)

Or perhaps they saw Ludwig (as a human) just closing his eye and slamming his sword around and yes he killed beasts but also humans in the middle. And idk what happened in Yharnam with all this corpses and bloodlickers (ok it's a nightmare, horrible things are amplified but still what the hell happened to inspire what we see in game ?! or is could a vision of the apocalypse future too. Layers are mixt, dreams, reality, past, present...)

Maybe they went into the hunter nightmares and discover things they shouldn't have know or find important papers/ had a mission in the chalice dungeons and in the end uncover things they shouldn't have seen and that made them a bit mad too !

Anyway who knows! (I like my idea with Ludwig too! And that made them mad + if I was locked in a cells for a lot of time in those condition I would probably go mad as well.)

Little things about Yamamura too :because he can helps us agains the living failures I hc he was there when the "patients outbreak" happened and help the church/hunters take down the dangerous patients and the living failures who attacked people. (Oh yeah another one of my headcanon/story idea... when Maria passed away the remaining patient went mad...what a mess... they discover her afterwards... but it's a story for another day...I literally saw this idea once a few days ago I think! it's so great and I have this idea since literals months! ) well that would mean they trust Yamaura right? But poor guy probably taking it so well too... and accumulating with everything...

Really curious now, what do you all thought about them locked in cells now ? I don't remember people really discussing it.