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lord-squiggletits · 2 years ago

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I think another thing that annoys me about how prevalent it is for people to read MTMTE/LL and nothing else, is the fact that JRO's depiction of Cybertronian-organic relationships is slanted so heavily in favor of Cybertronians portraying organic aliens as tyrannical racists killing colonies for no reason (Galactic Council, the Black Block Consortia) that love torturing Cybertronians because they hate them so much and don't see them as sentient (that dude who was selling Cybertronian torture dolls to alien races).

And like, something that happens as a result of people only reading MTMTE/LL is that they get this idea in their head that it's Cybertronians who are oppressed by the rest of the galaxy. And an unfortunate.... take that I see as a result of this ends up with stuff like Decepticon/Megatron apologists trying to frame technoist colonialism as basically Cybertronians trying to strike back against being unfairly persecuted and being seen as lesser by alien species? They don't always explicitly say it as such, but I've seen a lot of people try to downplay the whole technoism and colonialism thing by framing it in context to organic racism and how both sides are equally bad or something like that.

Which is not fucking true because if you actually were to read exRID and OP, you would know that there are multiple Cybertronian colonies throughout the galaxy that were created by razing previously occupied organics planets, that Nova Prime (one of the original 13 Primes and the first Prime to rule a united Cybertron) wanted to conquer the entire galaxy which led to the creation of cold construction in the first place, and that the reason organic species hate Cybertronians so much is because Cybertronians were the first ones to go out and start conquering other planets millions of years ago.

It's even more infuriating because you don't even need to read other comics besides JRO's to know this! Tailgate and Cyclonus were from Nova Prime's time and the whole "yeah during those times we liked going out on a fun journey to kill organics for fun hahaha" is brought up at least a couple times in the series.

#squiggposting #meta #but yeah it's easy to forget that idw cybertronians were the ones colonizing organics first #when the bulk of organic species presence in JRO's works is showing them as like absolute racist scum or as poor woobies in need of rescuin #and with regards to m/gatron apologists it actually pisses me off a lot because i KNOW most of them only read m/tmte and ll #and that's why they have Those Takes (derogatory)#and like ppl try to claim that M is unfairly framed as the villain and the colonialism 'makes no sense' (how?????)#but like if they read series besides JRO's they would see that basically M is only carrying on a colonialist legacy #that has pervaded all of cybertronian history. which imo is much more compelling and more accurate to real life than just #'M is racist against organics because they were racist to him/cybertron first. he's just retaliating!'#because like. when you look at real life history you see plenty of activists who revolutionized society and human rights and stuff #but in other aspects they were like fucking racist or sexist or transphobic or whatever #to me M makes much more sense and is more compelling as a tragically flawed former activist/pacifist #when you look at his anti functionism in contrast to his anti organic and colonialist actions #what you see there is a person who correctly argued in favor of the rights of his own species but failed to apply that logic to other speci #it's not uncommon for certain activists IRL to argue for the rights of one group of oppressed ppl but stomp on the rights of others because #they don't acknowledge the shared struggles or the shared roots of oppression between both #that's literally what M is doing. but if you take the stupid route of going 'oh M may be racist but organics were racist too'#that's just. that's not only boring but it makes for a less compelling narrative in a continuity full of political discussions and themes #and also i hate how many M fans just refuse to acknowledge the whole colonialism thing. it's not a matter of you have to feel bad for likin #him but it's a matter of. you can't just brush off M's crimes and get mad at other ppl for pointing out he did bad things #and also sometimes M stans' efforts to justify his crimes just end up having really unfortunate implications sometimes #like that one person who tried claiming that M's colonialism was just him making hard decisions to ensure the survival of his species #which is very mmmm uhhhh ahhhhhhh not a good argument to put it lightly #point is. some ppl wanna talk politics in TF so bad but aren't willing to talk ALL OF THE POLITICS #or like they wanna talk politics in TF without even reading the rest of the series #if your analysis of a story is based on incomplete evidence not having read most of the series and only cherrypicking from 2 series #your arguments are not logically compelling nor properly informed and i can rip them apart as such #there are too many takes in this fucking fandom made by ppl who haven't read most of idw or even read PART OF IT with attention to detail #just. i hate it when popular takes are made by ppl who only read a pinch of the story and make sweeping generaliations

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