#but i thought itd be a better idea to throw all those drawings into one big one
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there are roughly 40 references to lee in this one lee drawing
#was originally gonna draw lee everyday till hyperreal drops starting bambi patch#but i thought itd be a better idea to throw all those drawings into one big one#so yeah uh technically bambi patch was roughly 5 weeks#but i went overboard cause i cant count#my art#pgr#战双帕弥什#パニグレ#pgr lee#punishing gray raven
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Oh btw IMPORTANT THOUGHTS about maddiman variant versions so far. I havent finished drawing all the designs yet and im in the middle of capitol shopping centre right now so i cant til i get home lol. So RAMBLING TIME!!!
Sakura-viewing festival maddiman: an alt that venoct/orochi has in Yokai Watch Wibble Wobble, which i felt was such a shame cos similar stuff for other yokai could be super cute! Madds actually fits well cos the Important To His Backstory place Cherry Hill was called sakura hill in japanese. Also itd just be fun to draw him in a fancy festival kimono cos its so opposite to his usual clothes! Itd be cool also if his weapons during his attack animations switched based on costume! so i thought for this one his hospital iv stand thing could be a paper umbrella and instead of scalpels his throwing knives could be dango sticks? Not sure what the potion bottle in his special attack could be, maybe one of those confetti sphere lantern things, or a firework? Tryin to think of stuff that could still work in the same animation, i mean if he threw a tiny taiko drum it probably wouldnt explode. Tho him throwing very unexplosive stuff and it explodes could be comedy gold! Maybe he fries up various other festival snacks and flips them with a spatula and they go BOOM! Or he throws the entire sakura tree????
Miniman maddiman: jibanyan has a variant thats just Jibanyan But Fat And Large, but obv madds is already a round dude so that wouldnt work. So i dunno lol, a sudden skinny madds?? Maybe even call it 'hollywoodman' and its some bishounen actor in a really bad costume? XD weapons would all be bad cardboard versions, for the medicine bottle bomb even the clouds of smoke for the explosion would just be stagehands waving cardboard
Maddinyan: several other people have already draw designs for this but yeah give us a jibbers in madds cosplay! I like the crossover jibanyans better than the ones that are just him wearing a different hat or whatever. Maybe it could be called Dr Tuna after that one random save file i found on my copy of the game. Weapons could all be replaced with vet doctor versions, or cat stuff? Throws fishbone knives, scratching post iv stand, catnip bombs...
Gothic maddiman (gloomman?): i originally thought itd be cute if him and his son swapped outfits but their outfits are already kinda the same thing in different colours. So instead lets design a new outfit for maddiman matching his son's aesthetic! I feel like he'd probably be more gothic lolita while his son is more on the punk rock side of goth. There's a lot of very cute masc goth loli fashions, but i also think he'd totally trick out his lab coat with all the trimmings of your classic femme dress. Also totally a top hat!!!!! Maybe have an eye pattern on it to match cutely with his cyclopsness? Weapon switch ideas: iv stand = fancy cane, throwing knives = black roses?, medicine bottle = a more olden style super fancy bottle?
Hovermadds/Maddi-Man: Jibanyan has like three whole separate superhero variants lol. Hovernyan is such a weird name so i cant really make a madds pun for that? And his default outfit is already very cliche supervillain so if i wanted to do that id pretty much just stick a mask and a logo on him. So instead lets do an au version where madds is the hero! He's gotta have the silliest goddamn outfit so help me god. Maybe all his weapons could now be heart shaped lazer beams (and an entire lazer iv stand XD)
Windiman/Sunnyman: cant be sunniman cos thats a name of a religion lol. Equivelant of the illuminoct/light kyubi and dark venoct/darkyubi forms. But maddiman is already the darkness element and already uses 'light' abilities and has a white outfit. So instead make them weather/seasonal forms? And the sakura one would be close to a spring form so maybe throw in an autumn halloween maddiman just to complete the set. Also i like the idea of a summer madds thats just a yellowy colourscheme but also i like the idea of the dude in one of those old embarassing stripy dad swimsuits from the 1920s. And maybe a rubber ring and armbands and snorkel and flippers and just FULL EMBARAS! Iv stand = surfboard, knives = sandcastle shovels, bomb attack = the entire sandcastle. If i made a separate spring madds aside from sakura madds, maybe he could wear a straw sun hat and have his lab coat patterned like a nice sun dress? (Or just wear a nice sun dress underneath it cos fuck gender roles) Dunno what to do about the weapons except something something sunflowers. Autumn madds could just be him in nice autumn leafy coloured dad sweater. Weapons is leaf also! Halloween madds would be funny if he's wearing a bad frankenstein costume on top of already being a frankenstein, and weapons could be a rubber spider on a stick, some candy apples, and a pumpkin bomb. Winter madds would just be adorbs super warm coat and scarf and stuff. Maybe have a snowman instead of the iv stand? Or a snow-madds, that the turtle kids made for him and hes like I WILL CHERISH IT FOREVER! *invents new formula to make ice never melt* Also snowballs obviously. And maybe a santa costume alternate?
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I KNOW ITS BEEN LIKE 300 YEARS BUT-
5 things you’ll find in my bag
Right now theres uhh Notebooks, both school and 1 art. Drink mix ins, with such great flavors as sour apple jolly rancher and crush pineapple (tm) Two packs of cards, one of which steam punk themed and the other your regular ol bicycle. A calculator. Its a shitty old one but its for tests, i have google and shit for anything i need myself.
5 things you’ll find in my bedroom
A roommate. Idk if he is gay or what but he isnt straight, name’s will. Chill dude. Sleepin rn, what a fella MY SICK ASS COMPUTER IM MISSING OUT ON BECAUSE MY ROOMMATE IS ASLEEP AAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANNA PLAY ROCKET LEAGUE WITHOUT LAGGING TO HELL also programming my mods. Need to upload that shit. Shit what number we on, 3? Okay cool. A bed. Wow really a bed in your bedrooM? yeah its pretty fuckin spectacular i know. I dont have posters n shit so like i gotta be creative you feel. A microfridge. Now i know what youre thinking, “ah a small fridge whats the big deal?” but no you dont understand, its a microwave fucking bolted onto the top of a fridge. They gave zero fucks attaching these two together and apparently the name is the same way, WHY NOT A FRIDGEWAVE EVEN LIKE MICROFRIDGE JUST SOUNDS LIKE A SMALL FRI- Last but not least, im tempted to just say my wallet here tbh, cuz its old but like, youd EXPECT that now would you? Something boring and mundane for me to fill out the word count with making everything super exciting so nah man, fuck it. Theres air in my bedroom. Fight me.
5 things I’ve always wanted to do in my life
Make a videogame. Like okay, a lot of stuff on this list is jokes and stuff, and I know im going into too much detail and my followers will probably murder me in cold blood for this shit, but im serious about this one like - i have some ideas, but i never have the motivation alone to like work whole-heartedly and finish one but like, at some point in the future id love to sit down and just go at it and make a game. Doesnt matter if its popular or big or small just i wanna make something that i love ya feel? I wanna like, go to newark, delaware. I know, its delaware and all, no one lives there, but ive met a bunch of cool people there and i was promised a donut run sometime, so lookin forward to that. Yknow that post awhile back that was like “i dont wanna be rich and like buy shit, i just wanna have enough money to throw at kickstarters whenever i want without having to strain on my food and rent costs” thats me. 100% Like i wanna have just enough money to be able to donate to cool people and watch them do cool shit - it wont always work out but thats fine, I just love shit. I wanna be able to donate like the high prize and fly out to meet these game studios for coffee and shit and just talk with em and see their passion and ideas. I love it. Im not actually really sure besides those. Like idk. I think itd be cool to enter a game tournament with my brother and win, but i doubt thatll happen and its not super like on my desires just itd be cool cuz we named ourselves Sora and Shiro after NGNL and to see that like, have us win would be great. Yeah. Ill make my fifth to think of a fifth one.
5 things on my to do list
FLOPPY DICKS i mean disks. Floppy disks. I do binding of isaac ab+ modding shit, and im currently working (its mostly done for what i want it to do) which adds a new consumable called floppy disks, effects are based on viruses, bugs, and just computer based shit. Like BSOD for instance, which makes the screen literately bluescreen. Or atleast look like it. Cant wait to watch people play with it. I gotta work on the programming class project too but honestly i dont waannnaaa. Like its cool as shit. Recreate a card game using c++ code. But man, i just love Apocrypha and Floppies so much more. Eat today???? Please. Dining hall opens in 3 hours. Its goddamn 4 am. I want my food. Dunno if ill get it - if ill stay awake till then. But i want it. Probably draw some stuff? Like i posted one drawing already (check it out if u wanna ;) kay?) but like theres wacom tablets here i can just kinda use whenever???? its great. I love being able to just draw stuff on em. Even if i suck at drawing, even if it took 10 hours to make the one i posted here, still love. Probably play more rocket league. Sleep first, soon as i get that food im CRASHIN BOI IM OUTTIE HA but uhh, rocket league has a halloween thing rn and i like playing it. Was playing earlier today and i matchd with a dude in 2v2 that had the same car, skin, AND colors set up as mine. Totaly random. We kicked some major ass together. I kept thinking of the same hat comic the entire time. (also my card was superior because it had furry ears on it ;))
5 things that make me happy
Getting an idea for a thing and working at said thing until like boom it went from this abstract idea to now it has a physical form and it works! And its fun and its great and i can share it with other people and they can have fun too!!!! that feeling is wonderful. Obviously friends man. Just doing shit with people can be so great sometimes - like not all the time sure but like man. Its nice to talk to people and share experiences and just smile and tell bad jokes and have them groan but like it anyway like thats the shit. Going out at 2 am and walking to a nearby run down schoolyard and swinging on the swingsets and watching shooting stars burn up. Thats the good shit. Getting tents and setting em up in your friends back yard when your friend from far away comes up for a few days, and playing ridiculous games in a group like kick the can or fuckin zombie screaming your lungs out in the dark to freak em out, or just talkin around a fire about fuckin life man. The people make life great. Shits worth living for. I realize that last answer covered a LOT of shit but like, im just gonna add here videogames. Would be amiss if i didnt mention that, considering the rocket league rant above lmao. Yeah i better not make this category any longer.
5 things I’m (currently) into
Isaac modding, probably will be for awhile. Its good shit. As a suggestion from one of the people I work with (we also fuck around its a good time) i have started watching space dandy. Its a slow progress through lol like an episode or two a day but god man like its pretty ridiculous and the main character is pretty much everything i was expecting from seeing him everywhere. Rocket league again. It comes and goes with various different games to tide me over, give me a break from working. Bout 2 months ago or so said relaxing time was dominated by anime - i suddenly went on like a massive streak of watching shit. By that i mean, i watched all of hunter x hunter in like 2 weeks, among other shows prior to it. But yeah. Fuck man HXH I LOVED THE KING WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. I have too many emotions about that. I wrote a rant to the Groupchat (tm) about the fucking battle and how everything is in slow motion but it fucking like makes it like foreshadowed and have so much of an impact and still so much fucking happens even while everything runs at super slow mo just GOD KLASFJBHUGHASFIUHIPJASK anyway. Yeah. Music, as always im listening to like constantly. Wireless headphones are a wonder for this, but uhh....i cant say im especially into any specific thing rn right? Like a bit ago i was super into joywave and then that faded out and now im just listening to whatever random shit, yknow? But I am into music in general. Its good. Art! A lot of times i dont do shit like for drawing right, like especially not in like pencil in notebooks but like, i sorta started doing a lot more art stuff? Like i had a period awhile back last year where i stopped using pencils and used only pens and i just loved the aesthetic of the ink like how it looked (funny how im doing the opposite of the fucking inktober though, huh?) but yeah im back into using pencils to draw shit occasionally. Im still terrible at drawing people (which is what i see mostly everyone drawing on tumblr lmao RIP) but its fun to sketch stuff out and just let my thoughts run and bounce to some music and shit right? Also the tablets. Especially with the tablets.
5 things people may not know about me (at least on tumblr)
I basically constantly wear sweatshirts, and they all have like earbuds where the strings go. All the earbud shits are broken pretty much, like occasionally they work (the one i have rn does) but like, i dont ever really use them? i have wireless headphones for my phone and a headset (because i need the mic for my computer) for said computer so like, idk. But yeah. I rarely take em off when im not home, and sometimes even when i am i just kinda keep em anyway? (also just now i realized i talked in the section for room shit about all the stuff in my current dorm, my room at home has all KINDS of wierd fucking shit in it. Really missed an opportunity there.) Like many people i like to stay hydrated and shit, but drinking water all the time seemed like a chore more than anything so i got like drink mix ins and shit, mio’s or whatever offbrand version you can find at your local SUPERSTORE CONGLOMERATE. I drink em like all the time pretty much so atleast im health in one way :P. Also gummy vitamins. I dont excercise but you can only ask for so much. Idk, its hard to think of things for this section because tumblr knows so little about me yknow? Like i never make my own posts or shit like its SUPER rare so im pretty much just tryna find random facts but that might not be interesting? Like i have a bad habbit of like talking way too loud when im excited about something right? Not quite yelling but like getting there and like idk. See? Thats not super interesting but it is something no one online would be able to really know ya feel? Idk. I mean physically im kinda fat as you do, but im also like wierdly strong? Like for someone who never works out i sure do have arm strength if nothing else lmao. My endurance is shit tho. Honestly? I can only blame it on osu and groceries. Osu is just a game i like where you mash buttons to the beat of weaboo shit tier music. The groceries is just because like, well, my policy is Least Trips Possible which means carrying in 13 bags at a time if need be it, fuck it milk too? And a watermellon? Bring it.
Who am I tagging? Idk man. Just for shits and stuff tho i do wanna tag @theoriginalyami just to see what all’s changed in teh long time since i actually went to fill it out :P Dont feel like you have to add as much as me tho omg @milkchocolateowl because honestly? love you. Think about you a lot, just like glad im mutuals with that ray of sunshine. Good. @fantaledfish <3 (this is the friend i mentioned earlier, runs a QUALITY blog i guarantee it, better than mine for sure) @dragonfucker-supreme always top in my notes, a silent bond, like two guards assigned to watch back to back in the early dawn. Birds gather round. I can only tag so many people (i set myself a limit of 5 because...idk why i just mentally it felt right) so for my last trick gotta go with @ask-oncies-jizz like cmon man name changes for the win, also has quality icons and quality shitposts tbh, supreme top meme. Have fun yall.
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May 2nd, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on May 2nd, 2019, from 5PM - 7PM PDT. The chat focused on Moonlight Apparition by Janaka Davis (Darkhalo4321).
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!
Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Moonlight Apparition by Janaka Davis (Darkhalo4321)~! (http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/)
Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
Kabocha
Hello~! Yay Dark! :D Honestly -- my favorite scene is probably the scene where Ker starts teaching Jason a smidge more nicely, rather than just being a jerk about things. I feel like we're starting to get past his gruff exterior a bit... Wonder why he's such a grump? http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2572727/6-4/ Also, his witch eye is super badass, and I am really curious to learn more about it, bleeding and all.
Sarai
I'd have to say near the beginning, when Jason defeats the....thing (i forget what it was called exactly i'm so sorry ) by calmly sending it on its way instead of defeating it with violence
SpazztastiKim
When Robbie jumps on the well. Because it's hysterical. (I am a simple creature)
Darkhalo4321
a shade monster
Sarai
SHADE MONSTER thank you
i need to reread
Darkhalo4321
It likes to throw shade
Kabocha
So, it's a shade monster -- you mean it's just telling Jason all the failings of his friends right there?
Darkhalo4321
probably
SpazztastiKim
nerds...
Darkhalo4321
toby has an expired library boooook
Respheal
Made it o/
Darkhalo4321
yey
SpazztastiKim
Toby no
Sarai
TOBY NOOOOOO
Kabocha
"Yeah, you think it's real good idea to go jumping on well covers... Just you wait, one of you guys is gonna fall through and I'm gonna laugh my ass off."
Sarai
the worst crime of them all
Respheal
Oh yeah I liked the early scene too
RebelVampire
and here i thought toby was the one we could trust
Respheal
Robbie's antics at that point make me laugh
-kick- oh shit
SpazztastiKim
Robbie no
Letter Bee
My favorite scene is when Jason protected Lark.
Sarai
The first scene introduced me into what genre this story was and the monsters these good kiddos would face, but how jason handled it made me realize what kind of story it would be
Kabocha
Discord blocked my doodle....
SpazztastiKim
rude
Respheal
Rude!
Darkhalo4321
nuuu
discord play nice
Kabocha
[image: Shade monster: You guys think you're hot shit, eh? Too bad Sunny-boy isn't here to enlighten you! Jason: stop](edited)
SpazztastiKim
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Darkhalo4321
meanwhile Lark sneezing off screen not wanting to be involved
crimsonangeltears
haha (and hello I made it )
RebelVampire
my favorite scene is the one where antonio fights the spying hunters and is basically like "im cooler than you now gtfo my property"
Darkhalo4321
yay! thank you! ovo/
SpazztastiKim
that is a GREAT scene
Darkhalo4321
that was probably my favorite scene to draw
Sarai
HOW COULD I FORGET THAT ONE
Respheal
Antonio: Get off my lawn!(edited)
SpazztastiKim
basically
Sarai
his SMILE as he makes his weapon appear
SpazztastiKim
all he's missing is a cane to wave around threateningly
Darkhalo4321
he's not THAT old yet-
SpazztastiKim
lol
Sarai
the face of a man who hasn't been in a fight for a long time and is looking FORWARD to it
SpazztastiKim
ya'll f-ed up
Darkhalo4321
>:3c
RebelVampire
hey you dont need to be old for a cane. you can get one for the aesthetic.
also it can be used for blunt force trauma
Sarai
and for beating people!
see Rebel gets me
Darkhalo4321
XD
Sarai
using canes is a Legit martial art form you know
Kabocha
The only thing that hurts worse than getting cut by Antonio would be the emotional wounds he can inflict.
Darkhalo4321
>_O ooof yeah.
Sarai
or the emotional wounds you'd get just from the fact that you forced him to hit you
RebelVampire
wait if the shade monsters throw shade, is this how antonio fought them? he just learned to throw even more intense shade?
Kabocha
Not only can he kick your ass, but he will make you feel bad about making him kick your ass.
Darkhalo4321
I mean ... look at how well Crow does later on
SpazztastiKim
hmm
might not be the BEST example X'D
Darkhalo4321
:0
I love crow
SpazztastiKim
(yes, I'm teasing crow shhhh)
Kabocha
Honestly, looking at this scene, Crow is lucky that Antonio didn't just maim him right there.
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2290462/4-11/
SpazztastiKim
truth
crimsonangeltears
I really liked when Jason sparred with Toby, it's still one of my favs
Sarai
kabo coming in clutch with those links
Darkhalo4321
I imagine 40 tabs open on kabos computer
Sarai
when Jason rolled with his niece to keep her safe
Darkhalo4321
this was such a fun page to draw :D
Respheal
Later that week, Antonio looks at his socks and has a moment of "like the old days" and "dammit we're out of bleach"
grass staaaaaaaaaains
Darkhalo4321
just make ker do the laundry
SpazztastiKim
HA
RebelVampire
jason sparring with toby was cute but also made me more curious about toby. like jason makes sense for why hes have secret fight knowledge, but why did toby feel compelled to learn.
Sarai
((then he'd get sad because that would be the moment Adelaide would tell him "use vinegar and water))
RebelVampire
i feel if ker did the laundry hed mix bleach with all the chemicals youre not supposed to mix bleach with
fill the house with poison
Sarai
KER NO
KER THAT'S THE ONE THING YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO
crimsonangeltears
I just figured that was an activity toby learned when he was younger. my hubby did taekwon do as a kid (did I spell that right xD)
Darkhalo4321
Probably mixes his red socks with his white shirts...
SpazztastiKim
Piiink
RebelVampire
ker would look dashing in pink probably
SpazztastiKim
Totally
Darkhalo4321
It's really blue'd up, but in the scene after the contact with lark, his shirt is more on the magenta/pink side.
Sarai
a nice pink button-up with a navy blue tie? Very nice
Kabocha
[Image: Antonio saying, "Hey Ker, did you see that chore list I left for ya, eh?"]
Darkhalo4321
just a guy, making dinner... I'm sure...
Sarai
hey my dad makes tacos and cuts fruit with his bowie knife, I'm sure Antonio would do the same
OH NO XD
Darkhalo4321
insert Jason handing Ker some form of cross because- he gon' need it for the grave
better find a saint to save ya
Kabocha
You know, Ker sure mouths off a lot to Antonio... I can't wait to see some form of terror pop up at some point. XD
Sarai
St Jude? XD
(patron of lost causes)
Darkhalo4321
OH NO, that's PERFECT FOR KER
RebelVampire
it turns out we were the shade monsters all along.
Kabocha
Dark -- serious question though. This... Terraphate massacre mentioned in chapter 4... How many people were killed?! http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2300366/4-14/
Tenor | Shinavar
“1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?” Lark's introduction because he's my baby anD HE'S DOING SO WELL I'M SO PROUD. :DD (Also I just deeply enjoy like, a lot?? of?? he scenes but Lark's intro had me immediatly adopt him so- )
Darkhalo4321
more than 7
SpazztastiKim
Oof
Respheal
Lark is very intriguing
Darkhalo4321
it was more of a serial murder case
Kabocha
Lark's a troubled sunshine child
Respheal
sunshine
Tenor | Shinavar
(Also HI EVERYONE + I will be limited in typing, bound to my left had today )
RebelVampire
ah so one of those massacres where they pulled out a thesaurus to make it sound cooler
Sarai
OH i get the "more than 7" reference now
Kabocha
Wait, more than 7 reference?
Darkhalo4321
more than 7 killed
Kabocha
also, you know... if it's a small number like that... Sounds like ................................... A conspiracy.
Sarai
Boston "massacre" had only 7 people killed
((or was it 5 oh no i'm getting rusty))
crimsonangeltears
But was it random or a set group of people at the same time? hmm
Kabocha
o_o I have no idea
Darkhalo4321
it was across town- but like...yanno.... it happened all on the same night so... suspicious still
Kabocha
MAGICAL MASSACRE!
crimsonangeltears
Ohhh
Darkhalo4321
Culprit was apprehended- or were they? dun dun dun >:#c
Kabocha
Theory: all the people killed were Apparition users
RebelVampire
how big is the town?
Kabocha
And that's how Jason got his magic
Darkhalo4321
Uhm... I'd estimate around the 12-17k range. ish
Kabocha
It is literally murder magic
Darkhalo4321
big enough to have a hospital at.
Sarai
oh
Darkhalo4321
but like Bandon Oregon has a hospital, so like. Eh, if there's a need people will have a hospital.
SpazztastiKim
Cause you know... death is a thing
Darkhalo4321
I did try thinking in terms of "would a city of this size have this or this?" and did some comparisons for research
Kabocha
@Tenor | Shinavar [Image: Lark -- "This boy needs to be happy" Ker -- "This one needs to get over his grudge"](edited)
Darkhalo4321
he's an AXE Murderer
Sarai
oh come on we haven't seen him kill anybody yet
Kabocha
you know, honestly, the first time I saw Ker and Lark interacting, I could have sworn that Lark was like, some trickster asshole. And that he'd done something awful to Ker to make him THAT angry and grumpy.
RebelVampire
ya know i was going to say that is a bigger town than i thought itd be but then i looked up comparable towns near me and have now changes my thoughts that 12k is a tiny town
crimsonangeltears
xD
Kabocha
Maybe he ran into Ker one morning, on the way in to town, and made Ker spill coffee all over his nice, clean shirt.
Respheal
UM
crimsonangeltears
LOOK OUT
Darkhalo4321
It's big- but small. Big enough to have a few draws- but not BIG enough for some stuff.
Respheal
Wow I sure as heck don't remember seeing that lmao
RebelVampire
I thought it was only me who got that impression
Sarai
The town i grew up in is 32k - 12k is TINY XD
Kabocha
30k isn't that small...
Darkhalo4321
See- Roseburg is like 26k population- and I was doing a sized down version of THAT
Kabocha
....I mean, the town I grew up in had that many people, and it was kinda busy but we only had like, 3 blocks... ...of actual city...
Darkhalo4321
you wouldn't believe it but BEND Oregon is now... like 80K
crimsonangeltears
I think in terms of crime it really depends on many factors and the type of crime. Where I come from we have a lot of people technically, but when I was younger certain...crime that happened was not exactly heard of for our location..
We've had three serial killers now and it still isn't something that would have normally happened..
Tenor | Shinavar
12k ain't big but it ain't small. Town next to me is 4k.
Darkhalo4321
lark probably did piss off ker, we just don't know what he did yet
Kabocha
Also worth considering: When we were younger, the news didn't like to cover small towns all that much.(edited)
Sarai
my town was super small up until a few years before I was born, so it really isn't that city-like
Tenor | Shinavar
"Younger"
Kabo: u funny
Kabocha
Ey, remember, only 20 years ago, the internet was thought of as a fad
Tenor | Shinavar
Oh I'm refrencing something else, no worrie slol
RebelVampire
QUESTION 2. Of course, our main protagonist Jason is drenched in mysteries. How exactly do you think Jason’s mother was murdered, and why did the event cause so many changes in the world? Why doesn’t Jason’s dad want to explain the event to him? Who exactly sealed Jason’s memories and for what purpose? Additionally, why are the memories now starting to unravel after all this time? Overall, do you think Jason will learn to control his powers? Does he have a contract as Ker suggests might be possible, or will he have to make one to protect himself? Even if Jason gains control of his powers, how will that change his course in life? Lastly, how will Jason’s experiences with Phates in the future affect his choices?
Respheal
“ How exactly do you think Jason’s mother was murdered”
Horribly
Kabocha
She was stabbed.
Tenor | Shinavar
Dibs on eaten
Respheal
omg
RebelVampire
you know whatever you guys suggest im gonna assume its just all of it
Darkhalo4321
sobs
TENOR
RebelVampire
so stabbed, maybe burned, then eaten
Tenor | Shinavar
What? I'd go into a complete amnesiac trauma experience seeing my mom get eaten in front of me
Kabocha
hold on I have an awful idea
Letter Bee
I feel that the Leader of the Hunters slashed Adelaide to death as part of a plan to demoralize Antonio and keep him from fighting the corruption in the Hunters.
Respheal
And if you're very lucky, in that order?
Sarai
It definately involved Jason somehow, but I don't think he was directly responsible
Tenor | Shinavar
If Jason was responsible I'm chalking it up to "Phrophetic" reasons and mom tried to protect him
Respheal
Jason was a witness at the very least, for sure
Letter Bee
And the Leader of the Hunters also cursed Jason as a further hold on Antonio.
Darkhalo4321
:0
Jason has a hard life
Kabocha
[Image: Crossover joke](edited)
Sarai
DON'T CROSS THE STREAMS KABO
Respheal
WHAT
Darkhalo4321
but her hair was LONG
Respheal
LMAO
Okay okay okay geez uh(edited)
crimsonangeltears
I think she was slashed, not exactly just stabbed? Jason witnessed it so his memories were sealed to protect him from that trauma, but I think that if he remembers who it is, it will put him in Danger. (my guess..)
Respheal
Well, we really don't have any clues as to who did it or why
Kabocha
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2341615/4-23/ I've always wondered if Adalaide is the "she" Lark is talking about.
Is she really dead?
Sarai
i think it was caused by something magic-y he wasn't supposed to see/know about
Kabocha
Is she really? Like, dude, maybe she's not dead, but... Disappeared.
And Lark and Jason share a sort of bond because of it (brothers, maybe???)
Tenor | Shinavar
/Insert Brother Bear Meme for Lark + Adalaide?
crimsonangeltears
If it's disney rules...
Darkhalo4321
Sometimes I can STILL hear his voice
RebelVampire
i support this head canon just so lark and jason can be brothers
Sarai
please don't start another twin theory here
Darkhalo4321
:>
Kabocha
They can't be twins, Lark's older. But maybe Adalaide had a secret child with someone.
crimsonangeltears
I love twins...but I'd have to agree xD
Tenor | Shinavar
Fine I'll up a twin Theory: They're the same person split.
crimsonangeltears
No thank you..
Darkhalo4321
jason just didn't leave for a year. nbd
Respheal
Ooh
Kabocha
Two halves of a whole?
Tenor | Shinavar
Ye
Respheal
Actually, y'know what
Kabocha
Lark is the memories, Jason is the power?
Darkhalo4321
a yin or yang theory
Respheal
I see your twin theory and raise you Lark and Robbie are related(edited)
dat curly hair
Kabocha
omg
Tenor | Shinavar
...
Darkhalo4321
oooo
Tenor | Shinavar
Support
You'd never see it coming their personalities are so different :D
Darkhalo4321
they are the same age too
crimsonangeltears
OR...they are related but time travel or au is involved
Kabocha
!!!!
Darkhalo4321
Robbie is the rogue path
Kabocha
A doppelganger from the phate side of the world?
(Lark, that is)
Darkhalo4321
:0
Kabocha
I mean, Lark is a bird, and Oregon is home to Portland, and if y'all haven't seen Portlandia
crimsonangeltears
OR he's a robot that thinks he's not and he was given fake memories
Kabocha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHmLljk2t8M
Darkhalo4321
Oh nooo
So a doll hm?
Respheal
Oh yeah, regarding the contract part of the question
There was that trippy dream Jason had
Where he looked kinda....corrupted? And someone gave him a cross
I dunno, the timing of that seemed kind of contracty to me
Ah ha, this bit: http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2637351/6-18/(edited)
Kabocha
Who's the other person there?
Respheal
We don't know O:
I think
RebelVampire
in regards to the contract thing, im gonna point out it was suspicious metaphysical contracts were brought up, nobody knows how they work, and it potentially kills ppl
SpazztastiKim
MYSTERY
Darkhalo4321
I mean
Kabocha
Well, people, there's two, but I figure the guy's probably someone like Ker
crimsonangeltears
you'd have to be pretty desperate to agree to it then?
Darkhalo4321
what doesn't kill you makes you stronger?
SpazztastiKim
Halo boo
Darkhalo4321
- adviec from Ker... probably
Kabocha
.........That's how he got those scars.
RebelVampire
that does sound like ker advice
Kabocha
"I'm clearly not dead, so it's okay!"
Darkhalo4321
seems legit
Respheal
Oh derp hi like right in the next page from that it shows Jason dreaming about his mom getting slashed(edited)
Darkhalo4321
his dreams suck
Kabocha
Ker sure isn't the prettiest face you'll see for a motivational spokesperson, but he sure is the one that'll make you say "YIKES"
Darkhalo4321
I did have a lot of fun with that dream sequence. I both loved it and regretted it instantly.
Kabocha
Oh?
SpazztastiKim
The true suffering
Kabocha
It's interesting that Jason sees himself as cursed in the dream, though.
RebelVampire
maybe the dream sequence is how jason made a contract to try and save his mom but between that and her dying it was too overwhelming
Kabocha
Unless the curse just sits on top of any self-representational form of himself in his dreams.
SpazztastiKim
oof
Darkhalo4321
ooof indeedly
It's like it's becoming more and more clearer?
Respheal
Ker observed the curse triggers when Jason's thinking about his mom (or, I guess, what happened to his mom), and he was dreaming about his mom at the time
Darkhalo4321
I believe he does make that inference
(is inference the right word?)
Kabocha
Yeah, I think so
But Dark knows all the answers so clearly can't tell us THE TRUTH
Darkhalo4321
yes it is I feel smart
Respheal
The truth is out there
Kabocha
Okay, more seriously though
Darkhalo4321
I c o u l d
Kabocha
I'm not sure Ker wasn't involved in the murder.
Respheal
Nahh
Kabocha
I dunno.
SpazztastiKim
no... :C
Darkhalo4321
he did skip town
Respheal
Antonio would kill Ker if he was 8V
SpazztastiKim
NOOOO
RebelVampire
yeah i agree with res
ker would not be alive right now
or staying in the house
Darkhalo4321
but antonio needs SOMEONE to clean the bathrooms
SpazztastiKim
pffft
Kabocha
Ker probably can't take antonio, honestly
RebelVampire
ker doesnt need to live in the house for that. get a dog house and make ker sleep outside
Kabocha
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2455383/2-9-5/ I feel like Antonio might have suspected Ker's involvement, intentional or not, at one point tho
and clearly Ker has no problems killing rogue apparitions
okay yes he does, but only because Lark's a kid
RebelVampire
i got more the impression that antonio called ker cause he thought ker would actually give him straight answers about certain things going on that he wasnt made privy too. versus necessarily think ker was directly involved
Kabocha
Hm, true.
RebelVampire
ker secretly has lark's bday marked on a calendar so the minute lark turns 18 he can kill lerk with no qualms cause lark is an adult
Kabocha
Okay, revision to the theory then. Ker may have known who was sent out that night to deal with the new Moonlight Apparition. Ker may not have known why someone was sent out, or to where they were sent... But had info, somehow. and then... When he realized what happened, he couldn't face Antonio for 5 years.
SpazztastiKim
ouch...
RebelVampire
that sounds more like ker
at the very least i dont buy ker saying "i vaguely remember"
that is a conversation you would remember XD
Kabocha
Ker probably doesn't want to remember.
Darkhalo4321
Maybe he made himself forget?(edited)
Kabocha
Unless Ker was secretly in some sort of love/hate relationship with Adalaide, and then was in a state of shock when he heard she'd died. (Although it really seems more hate/hate)
RebelVampire
ker got himself one of those jason curses
Kabocha
(so, yanno, no unrequited love shenanigans there, but we can dream)
Respheal
Well, there is memory magic
Kabocha
...Is Ker a puppet?
Is that what you're getting at Res
Respheal
I mean, Dark saying Ker may have made himself forget
Kabocha
Was Ker made to forget so he could easily carry out orders, and being near Antonio is bad news bc it jogs his memory
Respheal
I'm just saying there's a way to do that
Kabocha
shhh
don't stop me from making up crazy conspiracy theories!
Respheal
Although here's a question: Why only Adelaide?
Jason was there
Kabocha
Because Antonio.
Darkhalo4321
Why only jason?
Respheal
I mean like, if Jason was there, why wasn't he killed too?
Sarai
Jason's dream/memory of the event cuts off right at the moment he's threatened by him mom's killer(edited)
Respheal
Instead, he just got the curse on him
RebelVampire
im assuming either they didnt get a chance to get at jason cause he did apparition things or because adelaide was super duper special and therefore had to die(edited)
Respheal
.....What if someone's using Jason
Kabocha
I feel like the killer was interrupted before he could finish the job.
Oh no...
Respheal
Someone needed him alive? :3c
RebelVampire
if i had to pick someone to blame for the murders im gonna pick belial cause belial is one suspicious mofo
Respheal
^
Kabocha
Also his magic and eyes are purple.
Darkhalo4321
Puuuurple
A royal color
Kabocha
I know that logic doesn't make much sense when stated out loud like that, but -- I figure an easy visual hint someone would use (or well, a way to distinguish who cast what) is to tie the magic color back to the magic user.
...UNLESS Purple is just a cursed color.
In which case, Belial is toxic.
Respheal
And if you're going to code someone as having "evil magic", you use red or purple
Kabocha
Or green
Respheal
The danger colors
Darkhalo4321
green is my favorite color. It will never be toxic to meeee
SpazztastiKim
totally toxic
Sarai
but purple IS the color of Jason's curse
Darkhalo4321
:0
SpazztastiKim
purple IS cursed because that's my favorite color
Kabocha
...So, I guess we need to find out if Belial also knows how to use a sword.
crimsonangeltears
It is also my favorite color! But cursed...? I never thought about it.
Kabocha
TBH it's weird that the hunters are working with him or his brother at all.
Respheal
He seems like the type
SpazztastiKim
possibly
Kabocha
I dunno, Belial seems more the type to use a magic sword and use it for blood magic.
....wait
Would that be why the murders happened?
Darkhalo4321
His brother now... thats a fun character >:3c
Kabocha
Some sort of horrific ritual involving the town?
We haven't seen other places enough to know if this is an oddly concentrated population of magic shit.
But... I wonder.
Respheal
Real quick before the next question: re: how powers will affect Jason's life: Hope you weren't plannin' on college, kiddo. Super powers and college don't mix well
RebelVampire
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2637354/6-20/ maybe not jason because i was looking at this page again and the writing that can be read is saying wake up. and while you could argue its a subconscious thing telling jason to wake up from the dream, you could also interpret it as something he heard cause the murderer wanted jason's apparition powers to awaken.
Kabocha
Hmmm...
RebelVampire
super powered jason cant be any worse at college than the thought of robbie at college XD
Respheal
TRUE
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. Besides the characters, there seems to be a lot going on in regards to the world. Who do you think Jason can trust: the Hunters or Lark? For what reason do you pick that side? Why do you think the other side can’t be trusted? Overall, do you agree with the Hunters’ stance that Phates should be kept secret? In contrast, do you sympathize with Lark’s goals? What crime do you think he’s being hunted for, and why is it secret? Also, what do you think happened to the people Lark is looking for? Finally, what do you think is going on with the Behem Realm in regards to the corruption and can it be fixed? What role might Jason have in regards to that?
Sarai
I DON'T KNOW OK
Kabocha
Honestly? I think Lark's the more trustworthy. The more I talk this out with made-up theories, the less I am really trusting the hunters.
Sarai
this whole situation with hidden information and magican shenanagins is stressing me out
crimsonangeltears
I will say Lark because that sweet child would never hurt my beloved Jason.
Kabocha
I'm sorry, Crow, you poor child, I really can't trust you until you get an anger management class.
SpazztastiKim
-snorts-
trust no one
RebelVampire
jason shouldnt trust anyone. that is the answer. dont trust ppl who have secrets
Respheal
I tend to think both sides are right and wrong :V The Hunters probably didn't explain things well and are probably doing some shady stuff, but Lark proooooobably reacted poorly and got himself in too deep
Also yes
Trust no one lol
SpazztastiKim
@RebelVampire gets it
Sarai
I don't think phates should be kept secret from the general population
Kabocha
Wait.
WAIT
If there are no secrets...
Then the only person we can trust is Robbie.
Respheal
Lark seems to have good intentions, but probably doesn't have the full story
.......lol
SpazztastiKim
@Respheal gets it too yes
Kabocha
I'm sorry, it's TRUE though.
SpazztastiKim
DON'T TRUST ROBBIE ARE YOU NUTS!?
Respheal
It is true and it hurts
Darkhalo4321
robbie is NOT the person you should trust
RebelVampire
robbie is the murderer confirmed
Respheal
because he's Lark's brother
Kabocha
Y'all are saying don't trust people with secrets, and where does that leave us? EVERYONE but Robbie has secrets.
Darkhalo4321
Toby
SpazztastiKim
hmmmmmmm
Darkhalo4321
Toby is a good kid- no secrets
Sarai
with a fire cracker? absolutely not but with the TRUTH????
Darkhalo4321
y e t
Sarai
YES
RebelVampire
im gonna trust antonio. antonio is just a great dad, great businessman, and great taker carer of ker
SpazztastiKim
I trust no one. not even myself... ESPECIALLY myself
Darkhalo4321
-robbie
Respheal
But even Antonio's keepin' secrets :(
Kabocha
If we're going to trust Antonio, it's only because if I don't, he'll kill me if I walk in his yard.
Respheal
Presumably for good (or so he thinks) reason, but....
Darkhalo4321
I'm sure he HAS his reasons
SpazztastiKim
just because there are reasons doesn't mean they're GOOD reasons
Kabocha
Antonio's a parent. Jason is a teenager. In most stories, you can't trust the parents because they're keeping grown-up secrets from their kids.
SpazztastiKim
heh
hehehe
Kabocha
Like, the truth about that college you really wanna go to... It's not happening. I'm sorry. MIT doesn't offer a full ride, Jason. ...Or does it now
anyway point is
You can't even trust JASON
Darkhalo4321
jason sucks at math, what makes you thik he'd get into MIT XD
Kabocha
because he's keeping secrets!
Darkhalo4321
He IS! How RUDE
Kabocha
The one secret I wanna know is how he gets his hair to stand up like that
Darkhalo4321
Ghibli effect
SpazztastiKim
pfft
Darkhalo4321
The wind styles it FOR him
SpazztastiKim
antigravity hair gel
Respheal
He hangs upside down for an hour every morning (actually no this is more of a Robbie thing)(edited)
Kabocha
Jason's never at 100% power because he's using 10% of it to do his hair.
Sarai
maybe he showers before bed and just
lets it dry however it wants
Darkhalo4321
he needs to get it cut. chop chop chop
bye bye fluff
Sarai
no!
crimsonangeltears
So birds don't style his hair?
Kabocha
And then he'll look like a tiny Antonio
Darkhalo4321
he's a regular snow white that kid
RebelVampire
no i already weeped when robbie cut his hair
Kabocha
Crim, are you suggesting that Jason's a disney princess?
Darkhalo4321
wait until he cuts it SHORTER
Kabocha
... Let's count the qualifications
RebelVampire
there needs to be like 1000% more floof for everyone's hair
Respheal
You mean he's not?
Kabocha
He has a bird friend He has a dead mom But can he SING?
Sarai
when jason cuts his hair will he do it in a comb-over(edited)
Darkhalo4321
ACTUALLY
he can sing very well
oh no- I made a disney princess
Respheal
Disney princess confirmed
Darkhalo4321
He's like BELLE because... he loves reading though!
he doesh't get trapped in a castle. but. like...
SpazztastiKim
nerd
Kabocha
I want adventure in the great wide somewhere~
Darkhalo4321
but not this apparition haaaair
RebelVampire
idk jason isnt really singing about he wants more than his provincial life
Kabocha
Jason, when Robbie comes by. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INDnS3vIKCU
SpazztastiKim
He's more like... Tiana
Darkhalo4321
Oh because... restaurant, right?
SpazztastiKim
and hard worker... stubborn.... oblivious
Darkhalo4321
robbie probably DID ask Jason to marry him HONESTLY
SpazztastiKim
three times at the very least(edited)
crimsonangeltears
But wait....maybe he's hercules since Ker is training him??
Darkhalo4321
he DID propose to like... 5 nurses
SpazztastiKim
tru
Darkhalo4321
I can GO THE DISTANCE
RebelVampire
i wonder what robbie wouldve done if one of the nurses said yes
Kabocha
I'm into the Hercules version of Jason. If only because it means Cathy and Melodie are probably muses
SpazztastiKim
HA
Darkhalo4321
Heck yeah!
Melodie has the moves for that!
SpazztastiKim
TRUTH
Kabocha
Welp.
Darkhalo4321
So The Behem realm
crimsonangeltears
Will there be a musical chapter?
RebelVampire
its probably fine. corruption always fixes itself O_O
Darkhalo4321
how would I comic that?... a musical chapter? When the anime happens, I'll have one made!
Kabocha
I still can't help but think that Crow's some sort of shapeshifter or werewolf... Behem... Behemoth... Plus Crow's propensity to growl like some sort of very angry dog...
RebelVampire
if crow isnt a werewolf i will be surprised
Respheal
I am 100% on board with that theory
RebelVampire
cause theres been enough refs to imply it is so
Darkhalo4321
I mean... He takes commands rather well when threatened- so-
dog training?
Kabocha
Crow doesn't listen to Julie real well tho
SpazztastiKim
he tries
RebelVampire
i think how the behem realm is being dealt with is a major reason jason shouldnt trust the hunters. cause while i dont think the hunters are evil persay, i think in their pursuit to do the good they bend ethics waaaaaay too far(edited)
Darkhalo4321
Julie needs to talk louder-
SpazztastiKim
He is basically a puppy
be loud and RIGHT THERE, then he'll pay attention
Darkhalo4321
yeaaaah- wonder why they have a phate trapped in a glass jar in a makeshift lab
SpazztastiKim
spooky
Kabocha
.... Do the stooges know about that
Darkhalo4321
they might
they might not
>:3c
Kabocha
@RebelVampire -- d'ya think the state of Behem might be related to Jason?
what if Jason's unintentionally an avatar of destruction?
SpazztastiKim
why... did that make me giggle so much?!
RebelVampire
i mean id believe it. sorry jason.
Kabocha
This tiny cinnamon roll of a child -- really there because he's a sign of end times.
RebelVampire
you are destined to destroy all that you love
except antonio
Kabocha
With Antonio as his dad, I'd really believe it.
Darkhalo4321
Yeah, I've been forbidden by many to NOT kill antonio
SpazztastiKim
indeed
Darkhalo4321
which means I probably should kill him, right?
Kabocha
Jason can become a razor-sharp weapon of death... But when it comes to his father, they walk side-by-side into the end.
SpazztastiKim
I did threaten to fly over there and shoot you with something. Do I have to again?(edited)
Sarai
it means you should NOT
Darkhalo4321
D:
RebelVampire
no dark this means the opposite. this means antonio needs 10 layers of plot armor
Darkhalo4321
fine fine he's safe... for now
RebelVampire
and when you pretend to kill him it turns out antonio faked his death and it was his plan all along
SpazztastiKim
I have MULTIPLE Nerf guns Halo...(edited)
Kabocha
oh noooo
Darkhalo4321
He'll eat a potato chip and go just as planned
Kabocha
Live footage of Dark, plotting out the story https://tenor.com/6zEs.gif
SpazztastiKim
^^^
Darkhalo4321
you forgot to add in the part where I plot as horrible implications are made known to me
>:3c fu fu fu
Kabocha
. . . So uh.
RebelVampire
i do think jason is tied to the corruption in all seriousness
Kabocha
Anyone got new horrible implications to point out?
I'd agree with you on that, Rebel.... Hold on, I feel like there's visual evidence
Darkhalo4321
oh?
Kabocha
Oh, no nevermind
I was like, "I remember that shot of the blocked off Behem realm being foresty," and linked it to Jason's dream where he got the Rosary... But they don't look similar at all.
But what seems to be a gate(????) to the realm has the same kind of creeping blackness as was surrounding Jason and the corrupted shade
RebelVampire
as far as im concerned the only evidence we need is that jason has amnesia and all the events tie back to the massacre
Kabocha
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2663394/6-32-chapter-end/ http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2637351/6-18/ But I'm not sure if that's just Dark's visual shorthand for "dark magic"
So file this under "more evidence needed, but I'm choosing to believe they're tied together somehow"
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2017341/2-10/ Also, apparently the Jason = Apparition user has been hidden from the hunters for a while... So, I wonder if Jason changed that night, corrupted the Behem realm with his awakening (somehow -- maybe it was just some sort of casting in place from the previous apparition user), and then got home after horrific things happened, only to have his mother murdered
The problem with this is, we don't know how casting this sort of stuff works yet, so I don't know if Jason's been in proximity TO the Behem realm if it requires that he physically be there to affect it.
Darkhalo4321
He's a wot? He's an apparition antonio-
Kabocha
So, I think until shown otherwise, if Jason's power is linked to Behem's state... Jason's probably a symptom of the problem, more than the cause??
RebelVampire
to be fair though we cant say for sure the corruption even started in the behem realm can we?
cause it couldve started elsewhere and thats just the first notable place it hit in its spread
Kabocha
true -- it could have been Belial starting shit, and it spread like a wildfire.
RebelVampire
belial please, observe proper fire control procedures at least(edited)
Kabocha
never
Darkhalo4321
a forest fire to burn all the... evidence...
blame it on teens using the beehive burner as a party spot
just as planned
Kabocha
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2663394/6-32-chapter-end/ Also, I wonder why Julie cares so much about the Behem realm? I know you don't need to have a link to a place to care, but... I feel like she has more than just Crow.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 4. Jason isn’t the only character in the comic with secrets. Do you think there are any significant things that Toby might know from the past that are sealed from Jason? If so, what and how will that affect his and Jason’s relationship? What do you think the story is with Robbie and how Jason ended up his friend? Why won’t Jason tell Toby the circumstances, and why is Robbie’s situation with Jason significant? Also, will the relationship between Jason and Melodie develop, or is it doomed to the status quo? Moving to other characters, how do you think Ker came upon his eye and the ability to use Fae magic? How might this event be influencing his choices and position with the Hunters? Last, what is going on with Belial, and what do you think this means for the story?
Kabocha
To be honest, when we found out that Robbie just kind of appeared in their friend group one day, I half expected that Robbie would be part of Jason? Like, that whole part of Jason that got separated out when he developed amnesia, but then the curse was introduced, and it was like... "nah"
Darkhalo4321
Eh- but you have to think back to Annette and Jason's conversation on the back porch-
Respheal
I've had a theory for a while that Robbie may have attempted suicide.... Mostly fueled by "Are you suicidal?!" "Yes?" and the references to Robbie being in a hospital
And that's probably how they met? 'cuz Jason's sister is a nurse?
Kabocha
Yeah...
RebelVampire
itd make sense cause theres a lot of rumors surrounding robbie and well...rumors lead to bullying >_>
Respheal
And that conversation between Jason and his sister was very......real
"is he okay?"
Kabocha
Robbie's a good egg who decided if he was going to be talked about, he may as well give them something to talk about
RebelVampire
and itd actually explain robbie's sort of cavalier attitude. cause if hes actually depressed than he doesnt care about his safety
thus jumps on well covers
Darkhalo4321
when Inspector Toby says "lets not stand on this-"
Kabocha
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2222484/1-17/ Toby's pretty cavalier about risking Robbie for Jason's sake tho
Respheal
And why Jason, being the good kid he is, doesn't drop Robbie like a brick when he's consistently crass
Darkhalo4321
if he don't care about his safety, why should he?
Kabocha
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2222492/1-21/ Because Jason cares
RebelVampire
well yeah, why would toby pick robbie over his best friend? XD
Respheal
I'm still mad at Robbie about the cafeteria scene lol
punk
Darkhalo4321
in the redraw I think I made it worse, but less directed...
if that's possible...even
Kabocha
Toby seemed to join in on it in those pages tho
Toby, why are you so mean to Mel. XD
what did she do to you
Darkhalo4321
Toby-... t o b y
sighs Toby- He's such a complicated nooooodle
RebelVampire
i just assumed robbie acted that way because thats how he handles socially awkward situations he doesnt want to be a part of. and his go to mode is "be a jackass"
Kabocha
.... Mel tried to be friendly, Toby didn't take her being friendly very well because it was a bad day, Mel continued to pester A grudge began
RebelVampire
for the cafeteria scene that is
Kabocha
Well, no, I mean, that could be their history XD
But yes, Robbie being a jackass is default, I think
"I don't know what to do, so go away" only he can't say those words
because then he looks weak
Darkhalo4321
truuue
RebelVampire
toby is a complicated noodle tho. i cant decide if he can be trusted or not. cause he seems honest but then at the same time he feels like he has a secret skeleton closet of secrets
Darkhalo4321
but, Toby Melodie and Jason have been friends for a while now-
his room DOES have a closet Hmmmm
Respheal
When Jason mentioned he had started remembering things, Toby looked like he was ready to whack Jason upside the head if it'd bring on the amnesia again
A definite "nope nope nope bad don't remember" sort of expression
Darkhalo4321
yeah, bad things happen when that... happened...
Kabocha
Maybe Toby has a secret he needs to hide.
Respheal
What are you hiding?
Darkhalo4321
MAYBE
cue law and order theme
Kabocha
Or at least, that was my impression during that first time, but when it was mentioned that Jason gets hospitalized...
It was like, hm, okay. Toby's not suspicious I guess.
Darkhalo4321
f o r n o w
Kabocha
Unless he was that other figure in the bg of that dream
Darkhalo4321
:0
is Toby the contracteee?
Kabocha
Part of the contract, maybe XD
crimsonangeltears
I gotta leave the chat guys, sorry! (gotta make dinner) Thank you for including me!
Sarai
bye! thanks for joining us!!
RebelVampire
thank you for comin @crimsonangeltears ~!
Kabocha
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2637351/6-18/ <- this page, first panel, 3 figures, just fyi
Darkhalo4321
Thanks for coming Crimson! makes yummy food for your family!
Kabocha
Have a good night Crim~!
RebelVampire
ok so it wasnt just me. i tots thought toby's reaction to jason's memories returning was super suspicious
and like he was ready to flee the country
Kabocha
well, if Jason is linked to the destruction of realms
wouldn't you?
Darkhalo4321
there is a lot about the APPARITIONS the hunters DONT KNOW sooo
Kabocha
that's why they want Lark
to counteract Jason.
Darkhalo4321
>;3c
RebelVampire
why only get one when you can have both tho?
Kabocha
They don't want him dead, but captured if possible. Because even if he dies, that power will reappear, yeah? but Lark's like, "Yeah, nah, I'm fine with the world ending."
Darkhalo4321
I'm surprised no one has brought up the lab... with lark...
Kabocha
Well
It's still new-ish information
Darkhalo4321
True-
Kabocha
We don't know who had the forest lab under their control yet, or am I forgetting something
maybe they had all those kids to test corruption on
Test subjects for Belial's brother~
'cause eventually, you need human subjects.
Darkhalo4321
I mean- they are keeping phates in jars so-
Kabocha
Nari was sacrificed for the sake of the Behem realm!
Darkhalo4321
shes a homuraaaa
or a madoka?
Kabocha
Neither
she's Sayaka
Darkhalo4321
THERE we go
RebelVampire
i dont have enough info to theorize on the lab. cause i got more the impression the kids were at a training facility for the hunters than a lab and that the lab came later.
Kabocha
But uh... There were theories on Dark's server about Mr. Grimr...
RebelVampire
maybe theyre pulling an fma and when lark finds nari shes gonna be fused with a phate
Kabocha
Ahahaha oh no
NO
REBEL NO
Respheal
WHY
Kabocha
Don't give Dark ideas!
Darkhalo4321
... l- lark?
>:3c
Kabocha
Lark-oniichan...
SpazztastiKim
S-stop?(edited)
Sarai
ENOUGH
Kabocha
We have found the limit, and it is Nina jokes.
Sarai
I can't take nina jokes in two servers gosh darn it
SpazztastiKim
that will ALWYAS be the limit
Sarai
^^^
Darkhalo4321
this will be the hill I die on
Kabocha
Okay, but seriously, Mr. Grimr has purple eyes.
Is he Belial's bro
Darkhalo4321
:0
Sarai
he might be
Darkhalo4321
purple, and purple makes a connection-
SpazztastiKim
nothing but pain
Kabocha
I mean
we have yet to see ... What was her name?
Sassypants?
Darkhalo4321
he knows stuff
Kabocha
Sizzlebritches?(edited)
Darkhalo4321
YES
XD
Respheal
"her"(edited)
Kabocha
So, I guess we're going to have a scene of this comic in a strip club.
Respheal
WHO
Darkhalo4321
d... did you not
oh dear
Kabocha
Dark, if you skimp out on the bright colored lights, I'll be sad.
Darkhalo4321
my google search history is going to ask questions kabo
Kabocha
Just look up sterotypical pictures from Vegas
it'll be fine
Or watch Showgirls (don't watch showgirls, it's not really good)
RebelVampire
vegas is basically one big strip club
Darkhalo4321
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2616663/6-12/
@Respheal
That's WHO
Respheal
Oh
I uh
I actually meant who's the 'her' Grimr is referring to
Darkhalo4321
I felt very clever about the name.
OH
RebelVampire
i assume the her was nari but now that res brings up that page...lark, did you...did you make a metaphysical contract?
Darkhalo4321
o h
Kabocha
"her" -- probably Nari. Or Adalaide. XD
Darkhalo4321
o h n o
Kabocha
If Nari's not fully dead, she will be soon.
A victim of corruption...
Respheal
r i p
Kabocha
I mean, you kind of sealed her fate with the whole friggin blood shots followed by tears
how else do you interpret that
Darkhalo4321
he just... misses her and regrets his bloody murdering ness or... something
Kabocha
http://moonlightapparition.smackjeeves.com/comics/2685206/7-5/ Lark is fine if the world ends because Nari isn't in it.
Respheal
The red was actually his hair dye
Darkhalo4321
yes
Kabocha
That's why he wants Jason.
FREE NARI, OR I SET HIM UPON YOU
RebelVampire
lark please. what you do is be the distraction and have jason sneak in. cause they wont be expecting jason and thus jason has the element of surprise to wreck their stuff
Darkhalo4321
Jason can barely transform guys, he'd just go in and start screaming XD
might as well SEND ROBBIOE
actually... That would work.He can seduce the guards see.
RebelVampire
that works too. send robbie and jason.
ultimate tag team
Kabocha
[image: Return Nari... Or suffer his curse...](edited)
Darkhalo4321
Jason would have to remind lark that... he's no idea what he's talking about XD curse? What curse? I'm F I N E
narrators voice He was NOT fine
Kabocha
See, I was imagining it to be more like King Ramses...
Darkhalo4321
oh yah?
Kabocha
RETURN THE SLAB....
OR SUFFER MY CURSE....
Darkhalo4321
OH
Yah Lark would try that, huh?
Kabocha
Yep. only Jason is the curse he shall set upon the world
Darkhalo4321
because his curse is FORBIDDEN MAGICwoooooo
and much scarier for some reason
Kabocha
:3
Well, it'll be okay eventually, I'm sure.
RebelVampire
lark's plans always work out
nothing could go wrong
Darkhalo4321
it'll all work out-
maybe
Kabocha
Nari's not doomed. Jason will be fine. And best of all, Lark will get everything he wanted.
Darkhalo4321
it's fine
Kabocha
And Robbie will live a happy life.
Darkhalo4321
the kids are okay
trust me
RebelVampire
theyre all dead
Kabocha
And you're not going to do anything to Antonio.
Darkhalo4321
e x a c t l y
Kabocha
That's it! That's the story.
Everything is FINE
Darkhalo4321
MCR's I'm not okay plays in the background
RebelVampire
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thoughts on worldbuilding as art and worldbuilding as ancillary to narrative, not a vauge but a slate of thoughts i’ve had after reading a friend’s post
-- (edit) to clarify beforehand, not all of this is a direct response to my friend (pazi, whom i recommend you follow cause shes a rly cool SF author) i'm partly responding to notions about worldbuilding that i’ve heard from other people and partly elaborating my general thoughts about worldbuilding here, so dont take this as a rebuke of what she’s written on the subject but more as a reframing of the concerns from a worldbuilding-to-worldbuild author’s perspective
i agree there's other ways to go about writing a good story and that worldbuilding in itself doesn't make things inherently more consistent-feeling or less contrived and self-servey feeling but i find it useful
ofc i enjoy the research and so on in itself, and like, learning about these different fields and stuff that i read on and compose my thoughts about... also it's been an important thing in my personal approach of like expanding out in my personal horizons of like... what could be possible. what could we look forward to. though certainly i’m not infallible but i like to think about it from that angle
and ofc not everyone is going to have that goal, or need it. its naive at least for sf/f spaces to try and convince people that if your story is in need of fixing up, what it absolutely/foremost/at root level, needs, is better worldbuilding. i think worldbuilding CAN produce interesting ideas and concepts but its not inherently about that
certainly people who aren’t that into math but don’t know better can get caught up spending ages calculating the exact orbits and day cycles of their fictional planets and such or trying to break into conlang because they think they have to do that. and like tbh... no, but a lot of “smart SF” resources tend to emphasize these kinds of details and like it looks cool to have little number statistics on everything so surely itd be even cooler if those were all worked out to minute accuracy, right?
not necessarily; if your story doesnt absolutely depend on little details like that i do think you can afford to fudge it at least somewhat. an SF story doesn’t have to be a meticulous after-action report of the technical failure of some spaceship, which is often based on wildly fantastical technology anyway, even if NASA scientists wrote a paper on it at some point. the Orion Drive is case in point of this imo; a speculative engineering project based on “existing tech” that never got further than cold war paper in the 50s and yet people claim we could build them “like a battleship” with no ill effects. where are all the tried and trusted Orion shipyards then? how about the completely harmless nuclear tests? who can promise shock absorber technology capable of shielding a ten thousand ton skyscraper against a nuclear bomb every second?
these kinds of inconsistencies show up all the time in hard SF and “hard fantasy” as i might call it, and “good worldbuilding” often gets related to the ability to throw up lots of little details, calculations and citations of physical principles or complex self-consistent magic, which can go unquestioned as long as nobody in the audience has any better idea of what the author is talking about, or cares enough to pick it apart. but calculation without purpose does not necessarily make a story feel more in context or less contrived
that in mind, i find worldbuilding useful. it is an art in itself for one, and (to clarify for my own sake) worldbuilding is enjoyable to me just because it is interesting for its own sake, to me. and at some point, any world implies stories to be crafted, can give good guidelines and details to draw upon. i don’t think that that promise of worldbuilding is inherently vapid, nor that worldbuilding and firming up the setting of a narrative are unrelated. RPG settings of course can give good examples of this; one is given a setting rubric with which to guide the establishment of a finer narrative
and certainly this can become a trap when presented as an ideal, that one must have a setting in order for good stories to spring forth, with background worth exploring. even for those who want to worldbuild, few can give a concise answer as to what “good worldbuilding” entails besides basically, “study more”, and “good worldbuilding = good writing”. study more planetary orbits, more orbital physics, more biology, more linguistics. few can give general roadmaps to aid worldbuilding for creating a... setting, rather than a mess of disparate and unconnected details. so what if the orion battleship’s engine and aerodynamics and life support are meticulously worked out if your story is about a greater interplanetary war and you can’t describe the first thing about what life is like under the war or make the story’s conflict more reasonable and interesting than “good american colonial marines analogue” versus “bad socialists / insectoid aliens” etc? what is the (hi)story tying these things together?
imo, worldbuilding is a strain of storytelling at a different scale - fictional groups and factions and things interacting in fictional relations. and like writing a good story that lends itself to inspiring interest and like, fanwork and headcanons and fanworldbuilds etc, writing an interesting and compelling world that inspires smaller-scale stories is not a mutually inclusive or exclusive separate skill. we don’t have to try and be meticulously dialectical, and account for all relations in the world that led to the realization of each event in the story, although imo it is certainly interesting to see what people come up with in trying. but what makes a world compelling depends on who you ask, and being able to graph out the daycycle of a planet indeed does not correspond to universally increasing appeal, or even making your setting more internally consistent. meticulous and well-connected and interesting/wanted are not, universally, mutually inclusive. ultimately, a story needs to be something you want to write
and personally i do want that. i like exploring how futures or other worlds could come to pass, what conditions might enable them to come to pass, in ways that relate to what i know of “reality”
i also think though, that again, a lot of worldbuilding focuses much on detail over general connectedness, which is important to creating a world that feels... compelling imo. the story of the world becomes disparate as effort is concentrated in unrelated elements.
and i try to connect the elements of my world... how are things in the world constructed, in a general sense? details are important too, but they’re not all-important; there are places they are needed and places where they aren’t. a lot of things can be generalized, which doesn’t necessarily equate to oversimplifying. you can just say “there were multiple factors involved here, but the general arc was ____” rather than “the Zorgon empire did ____ and that was the whole story of it”. it’s like how we don’t have to write out the characters’ detailed lives on all the days between when interesting stuff happens in a novel.
(though claiming realism can easily be disingenuous certainly. if we take studies and accounting of existing “real” things as the rubric for our worldbuilding and storytelling, even people at the “forefronts” of study and thought constantly disagree on and find uncertainties in their interpretations of the world. even if it doesn’t “march on”, science and study are not objective, etc)
but yeah. it’s fun and interesting to me... worldbuilding can be fulfilling, but it isn’t necessary to make a story fulfilling. worldbuilding for a story can have you vastly extending the scope of the story you’re aiming to tell, and not everyone wants to or needs to do this to make a good story about individual people. though i do wish i could get into less meticulous material more easily, or other material in general
what’s the takeaway from this? i guess mostly that imo worldbuilding and storytelling draw on the same skillset of being able to relate actors in a story, although in worldbuilding there are ofc also many minute fields one may be expected to specialize into to create details about the “actors” (factions, machines, etc) in question. and so i agree on the notion that creating a compelling story does not depend on a compelling world, though from the standpoint that i enjoy worldbuilding myself and do think it can produce interesting novel concepts - but you have to be writing with the intent of producing interesting concepts. worldbuilders whose main intent is to remake your standard Colonial Marines but with more NASA are probably going to produce mainly Colonial Marines with more NASA
ultimately a compelling story or world or both is going to be a matter of combining and interacting ideas in interesting ways or ways that speak to you
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i fucked up and answered the wrong symbol but fuckit im still doing this
☾ - What was the first idea that inspired the creation of each of your trolls, and do they still embody that idea now?
listed in order of creation, and some of these answers are gonna get really fuckin long so prepare yourself for masses of textwalls
charon: ive gone over his history in this ask here, so tl;dr version: i wanted to make a light greenblood who was creepy and loved blood and fighting. thats it. why people like this guy even though his origin is literally being Edgy(tm) is beyond me. while blood and fighting are still his main interests, his creepiness is no longer being creepy for the sake of being ‘ooh hes so evil and InSaNe xD xD xD’ to actually having motivations and becoming a legitimate threat to others.
skathi: I DONT THINK IVE EVER ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT OLD!SKATHI BEFORE SO ONLY FORMER MSPAF MEMBERS REMEMBER THAT DUMPSTER FIRE LMAO. but basically skathi’s original concept was vaguely inspired by The Importance of Being Earnest since i was studying that play at the time, but rather than being a british gentleman who invents an alternate identity as an excuse to fuck off to the country or invents a sick relative as an excuse to avoid boring social events, she was a lowblood posing as a highblood because people she fucked over burned down her hive. however that idea didnt work at all because she was complete shit at hiding her blood so that got scrapped, and shes been completely remade twice. now the only concepts that have stayed through the revamps is that she’s an axe-wielding Flarper who uses poisons and got her hive burned down.
cvetka: cvetka’s another character who’s been completely revamped and reset, but her concept hasnt really changed as much. originally she had chlorokinesis that went awry all the fuckin time because whatever man im 16 i can write whatever bullshit i want (aka no reason at all). also she was inspired by the Victorian Era + the language of flowers because i was studying that at the time (you will see this becomes a common thing). then i cant remember if it got confirmed in the comic or if it just because a commonly accepted headcanon on mspaf that highbloods didnt have psiionics at all (whats a vriska) so that got scrapped. then in her revamp she became a complete recluse because pacifism is a no-go on alternia, and while i find that shes become a much better written / well-thought out character as a result, my chances to rp her have become severely limited.
katrin: was my self-insert. originally she was painfully shy and couldnt really talk to anyone without get super embarrassed, and also she was an artist instead of a writer. then everything changed when the fire nation attacked she got a boyfriend. its kinda funny tho because she had no interest in working or getting rich until she met gerrel, yet she ended up on the complete opposite path to him by becoming a thief and running scams with her moirail at the time. then a shitload of events occurred (most of them retconned out of her backstory but their effects on her character still remain. also we dont talk about 90% of those events because i was a Bad Writer at the time and im embarrassed by everything and nearly anxiety-vomit whenever people go ‘hey remember this’ BYE) and we got the piece of shit raccoon thief we all know and love. also ive mentioned this heaps of times before but at one point she had robolimbs cuz both her arms got shot off but i retconned that to having the bullets graze her because i hated drawing her cybernetics lmao. the only things that’ve really stayed with her is that she’s still really awkward and a little shy, as well as still retaining a lot of my negative traits from her self-insert days.
viltau: ive also talked about vil’s history in another ask, but tl;dr wanted a Gatsby troll cuz i was studying the book at the time, ended up making an Edgelord. he’s still pretty gatsby-esque, being a rich guy who worked his way up to the top (tho nowhere near as drastically since he’s already a highblood) and throws a lot of parties, but since he’s a huge literature nerd now he’s a lot more self-aware and aims to purposely embody tropes from his favourite novels. i still like the idea of yellowblood!viltau (and his old sprites are adorable i mean look at him), but i have a lot more fun writing him as he is now. he’s almost a parody of himself, yet simultaneously played completely straight.
somerl: he was originally inspired from me going through my photo albums from times ive been to Hamilton Island on holiday, and in particular the one night i went on a cruise on The Banjo Paterson. i liked the idea of a cute sailor troll, and that was all he got characterwise. then, like katrin, he developed as a result of a bunch of events occurring to him and that’s how he gained a personality. he’s still a cute sailor troll, but now he’s a paranoid insomniac sailor troll with an obsession for superstitions and hatred for seadwellers and women. seadweller women are his worst nightmare.
dismas: his origin is actually kinda funny cuz i was watching this amv, and around about the time that Birthday Massacre song starts playing there’s this white-haired kid who appears and i thought he was the coolest thing ever. to this day i still have no clue who he is or what anime he’s from. also because it’s still 2011 and I Was A Teenage Edgelord i had an embarrassing obsession with Izaya from Durarara so of course dismas had to be an informant who fucks with everyone. originally he was yellow!viltau’s assistant who carried out all the shady jobs and was my go-to troll for killing off ocs i got bored of but they had history with other people’s trolls so i couldnt just get rid of them. then his original concept got combined with vil when i retconned vil into being an indigoblood. when i brought him back i kept the informant stuff and the Edgyness, but now he’s edgy to make fun of the fact he was a legitimate edgelord played 100% straight back in the day. also his roboarm switched sides because i forgot which arm he lost lmao.
aegiel: did a complete 180 in terms of character concept, and went through a bunch a revamps before i even started rping her. originally she was inspired by Hollywood Undead (particularly the song city), and was actually a super hemorebel who managed to escape capture and culling by having probability manipulating psiionics that ensured luck was always on her side. then i scrapped that entirely because at the time i was studying the Chinese revolution and the topic of the cultural revolution came up. so then her concept switched to being based on the Chinese Red Guards, as well as partially the Russian Cheka since i studied the Russian revolution the semester prior. I thought the concept of a super hemoloyal lowblood with a fanatical dedication to the Empire would be interesting, since most hemoloyalists tended to be highbloods. the only things thatve stayed from her original concept are her name and symbol, as well as her laughing quirk being a remnant of how her lusus was originally a cheshire cat.
aiolos: i dont really remember where his original concept came from, apart from i remember seeing a fanart of a 1920s style Scout from TF2 and liking the idea of a courier troll. i know i drew his original design in history class while watching Doctor Zhivago but i dont remember anything about that movie to know if that had any bearing on his character lmao. originally he was pretty rude and kinda sleazy, which ended up morphing into the sass you see today. he hasnt really changed much from his original concept, but its more that his character has grown over time.
kalpan: ok i have a confession to make. the reason why i made kal was because there were a shitload of anonbloods on mspaf that were either A. really bad at hiding their anonblood status, or B. were all almost always tyrianbloods in disguise who would pull rank every time someone gave them shit for being anon. and me, being the egotistical piece of shit i am, decided that i wanted to make a good anonblood. so kal’s blood was kept secret and she stayed out of trouble so that itd never get revealed, and her reasoning for being anonymous was just that she didnt really care my dude. she hasnt really strayed too far from her original concept, but rather expanded on the reason why shes so casually apathetic and gave her more of a backstory.
leithe: leithe’s original concept was something i dreamed up, no joke. from what i remember from the dream, i went to like a superhero school or something, and there was this one kid whose power was to cancel out other people’s powers so he’d be the one to save other kids when they lost control of their powers. his power also looked like a bubble that’d envelop himself and the other person whose powers he was cancelling out, so when i made him a fantroll that turned into an invisible field in which his psiionics were constantly active. and instead of being a hero, leithe was just an average dude who’d take up odd jobs here and there so he could have the skills to get a good job in the fleet. conceptwise he hasnt changed much, although hes become less tolerate of other lowbloods over time and he grew 500% more eyebrow.
pratap: was the first new troll i made after starting this blog. his first idea was a cute little seadweller who didnt really understand why other trolls were suspicious of him and his innocent offers to take them to his cafe for coffee. then shortly after making him, I studied Great Expectations in my uni literature class, and loved the idea of pratap getting a mentor who turns him from an innocent little kid to a typical shithead member of high society. that plot was going pretty well but fell through because of Reasons (read: i no longer associate with the other rper), so now he’s stuck in limbo characterwise but id love to pick it up again sometime.
errett: i say this every time i bring up errett’s history but haha remember when this guy was supposed to be cute. so errett was supposed to be in a group of trolls inspired by the four main elements from the game OFF., but pwo and i never got anyone to fill the spots for the elements of metal and plastic so it was just errett and his troll karnvr. and yeah, errett was supposed to be cute and his rudeness was meant to just be cutesy ‘ill puff up my cheeks and get angry and everyones gonna think im adorable’ but that got thrown out the window the moment i started rping him and he became a complete cunt. then we started thinking up a backstory for him and he became even more of a Bitter Angry Baby, so now the only elements that’ve really retained are his design and references to the game OFF..
sigrun: was inspired by those gifs of penguins falling over and the fact that i fucking love penguins and cry whenever i see cute penguin-related things. apart from being a bit more aggressive in their first draft, they havent changed much at all (probably because i never use them ever oops).
kisert: i have another confession to make. the reason why i made kisert was because i thought the whole ‘creepy little kid who talks to ghosts’ troll was overdone to hell and back so i wanted to make a parody of it by making a troll who pretends to be creepy and talks to ghosts to con people. he’s always been a massive childish brat, but his brattiness and childishness has gotten even more apparent over the years. tho at the same time, because those tendencies have been played up, he’s become a lot more emotionally stunted and stuck in the past as a result, which i think is more interesting than his original concept.
raesul: also hasn’t really changed from her original concept. i had the Danger Days album on repeat and really liked the idea of a hemorebel radio host, and so rae was born. she’s also partially inspired by Motorcity which i was watching at the time (and never finished oops), hence her radio station being called radio BRNR, after the Burners group. while rae was always supposed to be completely different from her miss summertime identity, the differences have become a lot more pronounced now that rae is super awkward and insecure while miss summertime is loud, proud, and always in control. also miss summertime’s wardrobe went from being super girly to more punk and rock-and-rock inspired, originally i wanted to avoid that because i thought itd be too cliche but then somewhere along the line i decided ‘lol fuck it’.
shirei: is based off the pokemon pangoro, cuz one of it’s pokedex entries states how its tough and aggressive but doesnt tolerate bullies, so i thought the idea of a tough but almost motherly gang leader would be neat. i was also watching Kill La Kill and Revolutionary Girl Utena at the time, so she gained some tomboyish but also princely/fairytale-esque qualities as a result. she hasnt changed much in terms of concept and ideas, but she kinda retroactively got inspired by quite a few of the Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure protagonists (particularly Jolyne and Giorno, but also a bit of Josuke) because they were kind of similar in concept.
redeti: was made as being a part of a group for trolls based on santa’s reindeer that i was doing with pwo. red is a combination of the ideas i had for Dasher and Vixen, and when i first designed him we joked that he looked like a lovechild between viltau and kitaer, so his interests became snowcones and murder to reference that. while he’s still a part of the Northern Lights crew with all the other reindeer inspired trolls we made, he’s become more detached from everyone else as a result of making friends with people outside the community. but in terms of original concept and ideas, he hasn’t really changed apart from probably becoming a lot more naive and dense over time.
fannar: is another troll from the Northern Lights crew, although they were made about a month after. they were kind of based off my idea for Donner, but also a mix between one of my older trolls i got rid of and my old Hetalia oc Antarctica. since they werent going to be a reindeer troll, i wanted them to be an outsider to the group, hence their polar bear lusus and their sickly constitution making it difficult for them to live in their current environment. originally they legitimately hated redeti’s guts and wanted him dead, but over time it’s become more of just a simple blackcrush that’s made them very protective of him.
nancor: ive mentioned this before, but his original concept came about because of this video and me deciding i really liked xatu. i had also seen The Book Thief recently, and loved the character of Death (i havent read the book yet tho dont judge me), so that’s where nan’s whole ‘pleasant but morbid angel of death’ came from. he’s also somewhat based on a couple characters from Hamatora (which is an alright series but the 2nd season is a complete dumpster fire and you should only watch if you want to watch a show fly so far off the rails it becomes hilarious), such as Ratio’s power requiring him to cover up his eye, and Moral’s design (as well as Izuru Kamukura from Danga Ronpa being another design insp). he’s always been kind of a silly character with his dumb puns and the fact that he walks around wearing a blindfold and fights with semaphore flags, but the more serious aspects of his personality didnt come in until much later.
eichio: another troll that started out as a huge fuckin joke, i saw this vine and wanted to make a troll who used noisemakers as their strife weapon. his mimicry and talent with musical instruments was just random brainstorming, and his whole ‘mimicking other trolls so he can learn how to act properly and pick up their behaviours to become likeable’ became a thing because i didnt know what personality or interests to give him. then i really started to explore the concept of a troll who has been raised to be nothing but the perfect people pleaser and even more perfect servant, and the effects that would have on someone’s mentality. he also developed an anxiety disorder cuz i got diagnosed with GAD and realised how much of myself id unintentionally put in him. its kinda amusing how a character who was originally supposed to just be a blank slate ended up so complex, but i really like how much hes grown as a concept.
davitt: dav was made for that meme that went around where you and a friend had to come up w. 2 ocs in secret and not reveal them until they were both done, and then you had to figure out how to ship them together, so i came up with him while pwo made walker. i was watching How To Get Away With Murder at the time, so i really liked the idea of a corrupt lawyer who used loopholes to get all his clients out of being found guilty, and was only in the job field for money and the fact it was really easy for a tealblood to become a Legislacerator. but, since im incapable of making trolls that arent also huge fuckin dorks, he was also a huge lazy piece of shit cat who hoarded random garbage and came up with dumb ways to be efficiently lazy. over time his corrupt and greedy ways have fallen to the wayside in favour of the more comically serious side to his personality, though they’re still slightly there since he is primarily a defense lawyer and we all know those types of lawyers are the devil.
ananta: ana is based off the game OneShot, which i played and fell in love with instantly. a lot of their concept stems from the game, ranging from superficial stuff such as their appearance resembling Niko and how their strife weapon is a lightbulb, but also the technical aspects of the game such as their unforgiving personality being a reference to how you only get one shot at the game, and their hobby as a hacker referencing how the game does shit to your computer as part of a puzzle. the resemblance was apparently so close that the creator of the game reblogged my concept art for ana, which im both still flattered and embarrassed about. like a lot of my recent characters, their core concept hasnt really changed, but rather ive focused a lot more on aspects of their personality like their extreme bitterness to hide their vulnerablity, and their loneliness as a result of the events in their life and the facade they put up.
soroll: is a literal meme. hes based off the ‘scream at own ass’ opossum meme, and is part of a group of meme animal trolls owned by pwo, who is also a huge memer. again his concept hasnt really changed since hes always been kinda dumb but with a huge heart, but over time hes become more of a mother hen type since he ended up unintentionally gravitating towards trolls who never took care of themselves so hed fuss over them. also i have no clue what happened to his quirk over time or even what accent its meant to resemble now lmao.
benrii: is based off Sanetoshi Watase from one of my favourite anime of all time, Mawaru Penguindrum. like ana, he’s not so much a direct rip of the character (apart from appearance) but more of an amalgamation of references to the series, so you have things like his obsession with fate mirroring the theme of the show, his apple bombs referencing the symbolism of apples that appears constantly, and the fact that he’s 9.5 sweeps refers to the 95 arc number in the show. also at one point i fell into a huge rabbit hole and ended up reading up about cults and biblical shit so that’s where his god complex came from. the whole ‘being addicted to praise and acting out for attention’ aspect of his personality didnt come about until much later, and thats now the dominant part of his character as a whole.
rosato: is another troll based on memes and joke posts on tumblr rifp, but this time its those posts on modern vampires and people not recognising they’re actually vampires and seeing things like their sudden aversion to the sun and garlic to just be weird coincidences. so then i came up with the idea of a forgetful rainbowdrinker who refused to believe theyre actually dead because they forgot how they got killed and assumes all the associated Weird Vampire Shit are just coincidences. he’s also got a shitload of Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure references in him because this was around about the time i got into the series. after errett failed, rosato was my second attempt at making a shy and cute but kinda mean troll, but once again he ended up becoming a full-blown rude asshole.
zotick: i was reading Vento Aureo and thought ‘you know Gold Experience is a fuckin cool power, what if I tried to make it less OP and turn it into a fantroll’. thus, zot was born. like rosato, his design and personality are a bunch of references to Giorno, and his love of bugs/scorpions/lizards/etc came from the fact that whenever Gold Experience turned something into an animal, its always something gross and dangerous. like eichio, i couldnt decide on any interests so i took the cheater’s way out and made it that he got bored easily so he doesnt stick to any main hobbies apart from bugs and pranks. Over time, he became more obnoxious and annoying, which was mostly because every single bug-related post on this site i could find was a fuckin meme.
Indi and Kaiman: im putting these two together because i came up with their concepts at the same time. firstly, i wanted to make trolls who were interested in the paranormal and aliens and shit, and secondly, i wanted them to be not quite siblings but grew up so closely they could basically be considered the Alternian equivalent of brothers. They were supposed to look similar in appearance and clothing too, but when i drew my first concept of indi i really liked what i came up with but it didnt suit how i envisioned kai so they ended up becoming completely different. i also wanted indi to be the quiet one and kai to be the loud one, but then i liked the idea of them being completely conflicting in terms of first impressions and ‘real’ personality. while their concepts never strayed away from their original idea, they definitely became a lot more developed and evolved once i started talking about them to ez, who was designing mauban at the time. from their interactions with mau, indi became a lot more extroverted but also trusting and optimistic, whereas kai became more judgmental and standoffish than i had initially intended, which i thought was a neat contrast.
mikiel: he’s Ghiaccio from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure. that’s it. character analysis over. ok i lied, but a lot of his character concept came from the fact that i really loved Ghiaccio’s design, personality, and powers, and really wanted to make a troll like that. funnily enough his gang affiliation is not a reference to Passione / La Squadra, but rather because i wanted to add more characters to the red scarves. the whole mutant thing is because i really wanted him to have psiionics but also wanted him to be a blueblood, and the fact that his powers are nigh uncontrollable is me reusing original!cve’s chlorokinesis idea, this time the reason being because his body cant handle an ability that supposed to be only seen in lowbloods rather than just Because Shut Up. he was actually supposed to be aggressive and Angry(tm) all the fuckin time, but after a while i considered that his life is actually really fuckin depressing so he gained ‘depression’ as his second emotion. now i try to focus more on his defeatist nature as opposed to anything else because otherwise he feels just kinda one-note.
aislin: is based on Alphys from Undertale, because i really like making characters based on my fav indie rpgs apparently. i got to that part in the game when you realise that alphys has been watching you from the very beginning, and thought a troll with surveillance-based psiionics would be a really neat concept over making Yet Another Geeky Scientist (although ais is interested in science to reference alphys, she just doesnt practice it). in terms of personality, she’s katrin 2.0, because as much as i love kat how she is right now, i really missed her adorably yet painfully shy personality that she used to have. i am also v. protective of ais and the types of trolls she interacts with because i refuse to have another Incident. so its more of a return to original concepts that earlier characters once embodied.
lanthi: came about because A. I was watching Owarimonogatari and i fuckin love Ougi and B. it was finally time for me to make a subjug. her chucklevoodoos are a play on the fact that Ougi is scarily good at prompting people into figuring out the exact answers they’re looking for, and especially in the Sodachi arcs how she was able to make Araragi remember everything about his past that he’d blocked out of his mind just by asking the right questions and the right time. for lanthi, i interpreted that as fabricating memories through suggestion, so her targets become more receptive to listening to her since they suddenly recall her as a familiar face they can trust. i havent really done much with her so i dont rly have anything to say, other than i still have no clue what the fuck she is.
velour: oh boy, velour. i had so many concepts for this fucker that it was hard for me to settle on one. along with being a celebrity fashion designer and vlogger who happens to be a lowkey con artist, other concepts i had in mind were a matchmaker, and a borderline yandere who uses his celebrity status to lure in targets to fall in love with him. i scrapped the latter two ideas (tho now the yandere thing gets referenced by the fact he gets fans paying him to act out their own weird celebrity stalker fantasies LMAO), and somehow managed to mash together all my concepts into an actual troll. he took the longest for me to figure out, and it wasnt until after i made liiore and gave him a past with him + mikiel where everything started to click, but now everything works and im super happy w. him.
liiore: was somewhat of an offshoot of my many velour concepts, since along with the celebrity idea i was also thinking of an ex-celebrity concept as well. also one night i was reading the PokeSpe page on Bulbapedia and it mentioned one of the main characters being an ex-celebrity who became a shut-in after he got too overwhelmed by the lifestyle, and i really liked that concept. so then liiore was born. he was also my 3rd attempt at making a cute shy boy character, except this time i nixed the ‘but also grumpy in a cute way’ so i wouldnt end up with Yet Another Errett or Rosato. now hes a huge dopey ball of adorable shyness.
daimon: so when i first played Awakening i made a Fire Emblem-inspired troll who didnt really click with me so i scrapped them almost immediately. then Fates came around and I fell in love with every single archer but especially Niles and Takumi, so i was like ‘yknow what lets try round 2 for an FE troll’. so dai is a mishmash of all the Fates archers (but Niles remained the main inspiration so that’s why his appearance and personality is closest to him), as well as kinda more Arthur than Setsuna simply because i thought a troll with impossibly bad lukc would be hilarious. and also hilariously tragic, hence his backstory. since i havent really rped him that much he hasnt really changed in concept, but he also became inspired by Jake Peralta from Brooklyn Nine-Nine after i started watching that and now i cannot unsee dai in jake help me.
callan: is based on a combination of ‘The Phantom Thief’ trope, Bungou Stray Dogs (particularly Dazai and Chuuya in terms of design), and the fact i was talking about my faceblindness issues with my parents and thought ‘hey a character who no one can remember what they look like would make a great thief’. and i was thinking about rosato’s backstory and really wanted to make an npc to fill in the gaps re: how he died but whoops i got attached to the concept and now ive got a legit troll on my hands. i was also thinking about how i have way too many pretty + well-dressed + cultured male trolls so i kinda made callan a different spin on my own predicability by making him look smart and cultured but really not giving a shit about anything of the sort. he loves the theatre but only if theyre musicals with a lot of comedy, he steals art and knows his art history but only so that he can definitely steal something of worth that isnt going to end up a forgery, he’s sharp dressed because it attracts attention given his caste, and he drinks beer because he looks like a guy who’d prefer wine.
#headcanon#EVERYONE#jesus christ its finally done#im going to bed now its 5am and my parents are already awake RIFP
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