#but his current character model is so bad in comparison to almost any other model/illustration of knuckles

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every time i see a 3d render of knuckles im always thinking 'its weird how he has purple eyes' but then i see him in 2d and absolutely see why he has purple eyes

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an addition to the karna post but im sending an anon because im shy: pako did not design karna, wada and takeuchi did for CCC, his only real original work for the character are his armor tweaks so his ascension stages work and his costume. it's also why he sticks out so bad in comparison to the other pako designs. I really hope they give him more free reign to make rider karna or something in the future...

I’m not sure about takeuchi designing him actually, I did wonder about that given the whole thing with tamamo and some of the other extra servants but I haven’t actually found anything that says he handled any part of it? I know wada did alter his design for ccc specifically but that was more because of the big fluffy puff not working in a 3d medium the way the models rendered at the time, afaik, so she adapted his current apocrypha design the same way someone like Medusa’s got reworked. I think? But she definitely wasn’t the original artist who made him, I’m almost certain that pako drew him on nasu’s direction (but it’s kind of weird how it’s phrased, like

Looking at the Fate/complete material IV - Extra Material booklet that includes art for both apocrypha and it’s cancelled predecessor mmorpg it lists his designer as Kinoko Nasu, and illustrator as pako. The fact these are two separate people suggest that probably nasu dictated the design he wanted and pako drew it for the first draft if I had to guess?

This booklet was released in 2011. Fate CCC was released in 2013, so I don’t think that the concept art that pako worked on for apocrypha would have preceded the ‘base’ design if the CCC one was meant to be the one that pako was working off of. I think that one probably it would’ve been included in his fgo ascensions also if that was the case…? Maybe, at least.

Anyway here’s the rest of his pages from the booklet. Some of these show up again in his mat book from fgo but the rest are his discarded proto design and some fun random faces.